Post by: nonjagged on June 21, 2003, 09:45:56 AM
Im gonna keep an eye out on this technology. In my opinion it is ahead of its time and all consoles will implement the same ideas as this console, its just that eg. Nintendo isnt supporting this concept because the BB or greater infrastructures are not completely out there.
I might even buy one of these consoles if bigname PC developers support it. Its all a matter whether or not IL make any idiotic public announcements against Nintendo, then I will keep an eye out on the console and its progress.
If anyone finds any decent links in future just drop em in this thread.
...and remember its OK to support competition like IL, when competition shows respect to Nintendo by not aggrevating Nintendo's fanboys in any way.
Rule of thumb its not OK to support arrogant n00bs like M$.
Fixed link and now got the right one
Post by: manunited4eva22 on June 21, 2003, 01:50:24 PM
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Post by: BlkPaladin on June 21, 2003, 07:51:42 PM
Post by: nonjagged on June 23, 2003, 06:30:58 AM
Its actually better to wait until the competition actually showcases the platform in an official capacity before you actually claim it doesnt appear to be worth your money.
My friends own Xbox's and the past few months they have spent full retail on endless piles of rehashes or dodgy crud B grade software which amazes me the torment they are going through until the Halo2 in 2004.
If my friends owned a Phantom which is naturally more powerful hardware being newer technology (and upgradeable) then they (friends) wouldnt be paying full retail for software but instead paying cheap as chips and hiring the average software to play it just once (game rentals through BB), hence saving hundreds of dollars per year and not having to trade dodgy games to Electronic Boutique only to be ripped-off severely and not having to go visit the dodgy Blockbuster stores that are cozy in bed with Sony.
The law of common sense. Xbox is going to keel over. The Phantom is the alternative platform to the PC platform IF as I stated some big name PC developers get behind it. Phantom naturally would need a decent controller also but Im sure it wont be some hideously gigantic Duke of a Dud.
Surely John Carmack is not in M$'s pocket?
Surely Valve is not in M$'s pocket? I heard HL2 wont be on Xbox is is it temp exclusive on PC for a good while?
Naturally as I stated I will keep an eye on the progress until IL decide to launch and somehow with pure stupidity somehow start publically bashing Nintendo and or the Gamecube, then I will always give competition a chance to show what they can offer.
Post by: JB on July 01, 2003, 05:16:48 PM
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on July 03, 2003, 12:31:20 PM
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Post by: Oldskool on July 04, 2003, 01:44:25 PM
Post by: Cooolcorey on July 06, 2003, 09:00:44 PM
So... if they were to release games with graphics/sound/length comparable to current consoles, then their games would be running around 1 gigabyte. To download a gigabyte on a 1 Mb connection would roughly take 120 minutes. If you thought the Playstation's loading times were bad, now you'll have to wait two hours for your game to download. Not my idea of fun.
Of course. if they don't release comparable software, then it'll flop anyway.
Post by: nonjagged on July 12, 2003, 07:26:36 AM
Its a PC pretending to be an Xb0x ....LOL.
Or the other way around?
will insert link here (brb)
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Post by: nonjagged on July 12, 2003, 07:31:05 AM
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchnews.asp?newsid=86540
Post by: KDR_11k on July 13, 2003, 12:38:23 AM
Yet another article...
Post by: JB on July 13, 2003, 11:54:00 PM
Post by: JB on August 14, 2003, 03:51:07 AM
Post by: Djunknown on August 18, 2003, 09:15:42 PM
Custom OS running Windows XP kernel
3.0GHz processor
256MB DDR RAM
Nvidia video card
Intel motherboard
Dolby Digital 7.1 surround sound
100GB+ internal storage
Onboard RF wireless modules
S-video, RCA, component video, and PAL support
10/100 baseT Ethernet
Wireless controller
Wireless keyboard and mouse
2 USB ports
4 controller ports
12' port extension cable
Optional Components:
Controllers, wireless and corded
Keyboard and mouse with charging base station
Storage expansion for additional game storage
DSL modem
Cable modem
Wireless WIFI card
Memory upgrades
Speaker sets
Flat-screen display
Now THAT'S some power. Unless they want to look REALLY dumb, they're gonna press onwards. Looks like they took a page from Nintendo's book concerning Wireless peripherals. But with all that power, must come a hefty price. And I don't mean like XboX was 400 at Launch expensive, but it might reach over a thousand dollars. Now Infinium has stated they will sell models to fit your wallet, so if you want the power, you gotta pay the piper. Not to mention that Infinium has said you can ONLY get it online (No deals with retailers therefore getting a lion's share of profit.) and that it has 250 publishers and Developers currently "Interested."
My analysis/opinion? They aren't getting off the right foot by advertising with NO original content. By not getting it in a store means you are probably limiting people from A)Seeing it in action B)Taking it home right away. It looks like they're gonna have to pull a PS1 by having almost 100 percent 3rd party support for a while,until they have enough money (and interest) to make their own studio. Tecmo seem to be power whores, will they jump from MS's boat into the Phantom Zone? (yeah yeah cheap pun) The thing here is that they aren't really aiming for a killer app a la Halo, but for more of an exclusive experience akin to XboX Live. Will that entice gamers?
As with all newcomers, I'm skeptical about how far and how long are they willing to stay. With a new crop of contenders (EGM has an article in August issue), its history repeating itself. (Think back to the 90's, CD-i, 3DO, Sega CD, 32x, Virtual Boy, etc etc.) I for one will not make that crapshoot at launch, I'll let the brave (and rich) souls test the waters.
Post by: rpglover on August 19, 2003, 05:34:08 AM
first of all, those specs are really really high- on a high end computer with those specs, you could pay upwards to 1500 dollars for something like that- the thing i dont think will work is the way you get games- i just have a feeling that infinium labs will loose a crapload of money on this- mostly due to pirating- they claim to get games you go to their server and get the games you want- they download onto you machine and then infinium bills you for the game depending on how large the game is- for some reason i just have a feeling that hackers will find a way to get around the billing system and get the games direct and put them right on to the system- that would loose infinium a lot of money not to mention the publishers and developers of the games themselves- maybe it wont happen but i just have that feeling
Post by: KDR_11k on August 19, 2003, 07:18:39 AM
(*): I'm not only referring to XBox Live, but some of his quotes and "future visions" as well.
Post by: JB on August 20, 2003, 01:44:51 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
They suffer from the same delusion as Bill Gates(*): The belief that every single home has unlimited broadband access.
(*): I'm not only referring to XBox Live, but some of his quotes and "future visions" as well.
I'm sorry, but the only people being delusional are the people who still don't believe that the Phantom is a big hoax. If you go to the website and view the html-source of the pre-register page you will see that the form on that page was never meant to be sent anywhere at all(if you know how html-forms work, that is). Think about it, why would Infinium Labs not want to receive reservations of their console from people? The most likely answer is because the Phantom is a hoax. There is a thread over at the C&VG website where the Phantom is being discussed. In that thread a few mistakes were pointed out in the "design" of the console when compared to the technical specs of the machine. I think the Phantom is either someone's school project or someone just having a big laugh.
Post by: Grey Ninja on August 20, 2003, 06:30:26 AM
Even if it's not a hoax (which I am sure it is), I still ain't buying it, and it would be a toss up if I hated it or the Xbox more. I think I would still hate the Xbox more, based on it's manufacturer, and its opening up the way to more PCs hidden in a box such as this one.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 20, 2003, 07:09:15 AM
Post by: vudu on November 06, 2003, 10:42:00 AM
phantom images
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 06, 2003, 11:05:08 AM
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 07, 2003, 02:59:45 AM
Post by: Oldskool on November 10, 2003, 07:37:27 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
They suffer from the same delusion as Bill Gates(*): The belief that every single home has unlimited broadband access.
(*): I'm not only referring to XBox Live, but some of his quotes and "future visions" as well.
I was skeptical about broadband being the future too until I heard of this interesting technology being tested. It will get broadband to homes by using zepplins to transmit broadand to a wide area on the ground. It is being tested and it is believed that not only will it allow broadband to get to new areas, but it will also make broadband cheaper to own and easier for the companies to maintain. (A few dozen zepplins are easier to maintain than 100s of mile of wires and gizmos.)
I'm not saying that I support the Phantom. I've always believed it was a fake, and this recent interview proves it.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on November 10, 2003, 10:16:10 AM
A dozen zepplins in the long run are no where near as cost efficient or workable as cabling. The fiber that is already layed has been in use since the 90s and costs very very little in maintenance. Where as a zepplin, you are paying for fuel, for maintenance, countless things, and it does add up over time.
As for microsoft not understanding bandwith, rather ironic considering comcast has been fining and banning people for 'using too much bandwith'
Post by: JB on November 10, 2003, 10:44:31 PM
Post by: Shift Key on November 11, 2003, 01:30:02 PM
Do you have a link of some sort Oldskool? Its just that cabling, while initially expensive with the laying of cables underground, is more cost-efficient in the long run, because there is no on-going cost apart from occasional maintenance. There are definitely alternatives, but for large-scale networks nothing comes close to good old cables. The plan you discuss sounds very ambitious, partly because I've never even thought of it. Ah well.
And I believe the Phantom console to be just that - a phantom console. It indeed smells of a scam, and I don't expect to see any games running on this console at all.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on November 11, 2003, 06:06:14 PM
I believe the Phantom WILL come out, but when people buy it, they will discover that the console is just the Xbox with cover stickers on it.
Post by: Djunknown on November 15, 2003, 07:28:40 PM
"Infinium Labs and Venturcom have today announced that Microsoft Licensing GP has approved an agreement allowing Infinium Labs to use Windows XP Embedded for operating system components of its Phantom Game System. Venturcom is an authorized distributor of Microsoft operating systems for use in embedded systems, and will provide developer support as well as the Windows XP Embedded licenses to Infinium Labs"
Strange isn't it? MS is indirectly helping this Phantom by giving it a soul. Oh when will the jig be up? How long will this masquerade continue? It just sounds like a dedicated gaming PC with Broadband being its selling point. If they marketed it like Alienware of something, maybe it could be taken seriously. As a console? Nah....
Somehow, we're addicted to the drama. Oh what will they do next?
Post by: oohhboy on November 15, 2003, 11:52:30 PM
I think we are attracted to it as we are attrected at looking at car wreaks. only this time you know it is going to happen. i can't wait to see how high this house of cards go until it flatten itself under it's own wieght of lies.
Post by: vudu on January 07, 2004, 07:22:02 AM
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Infinium Labs announced today that its Phantom Gaming Service will be unveiled to the public January 8-11 at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada.
looks like we should have some more information on the phantom by tomorrow or friday. i'm really interested to see what people have to say. it appears to be nothing more than a pc with a controller. but i kinda wish i'm wrong on that one.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 07, 2004, 06:11:33 PM
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Post by: Chongman on January 10, 2004, 10:32:31 AM
Hey, I already have this console!! I just plug my computer into my tv with an s-video cable and voila!
No, seriously though, that actualy sounds interesting to me. Hmmm....any computer game?
Post by: KDR_11k on January 10, 2004, 09:28:47 PM
The Phantom ws shown at the CES, but still no tech demo. Could have been just an empty shell.
Post by: JB on January 12, 2004, 12:34:39 AM
EDIT: The ApeXtreme is going to get it's own games as well, one of which is a straight port of the N64-/PC-game Rogue Squadron. In other words: the system is most likely already outdated as it is.
Post by: JB on January 13, 2004, 01:39:53 AM
Post by: Ghost_of_a_Flea on January 15, 2004, 07:51:51 PM
Honestly, I never put much effort into the Phantom; I figured it was either a hoax or a horrible idea destined to fail. Even if it's real and sells for $200 I'm still not interested; for that I could buy four new games I actually want to play on a system I know actually exists. Reading through this thread is the most I've read about the Phantom... I've found bits and pieces here and there, but I don't see how anyone can still have faith that this isn't a hoax or fraud (as I said, I'm not interested enough to learn more about it).
Post by: Majexto on January 23, 2004, 05:09:51 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 23, 2004, 05:23:05 PM
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 24, 2004, 04:31:05 AM
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 25, 2004, 04:47:08 PM
Post by: JB on January 26, 2004, 03:30:11 AM
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Originally posted by: manunited4eva22
Perhaps it is that the guy who is doing this has a history of spending outrageous ammounts of money, only for the company to fail, the office that this place is supposed to be in is COMPLETELY empty, and everyone involved in the company is related to his family.
Actually, Infinium Labs doesn't have offices yet, they have even acknowledged that fact. Though they claim to have offices all over the USA on their site. The whole company is being run out of that guy's home. Theyt don't even ave production facilities yet! Because of this, I am starting to think that they don't even have a working prototype yet.
Post by: Cap on January 26, 2004, 09:55:58 AM
http://www.1up.com/article2/0,4364,1434980,00.asp
i still have my doubts that it will ever be released though.
Post by: Majexto on January 26, 2004, 05:29:18 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 28, 2004, 05:28:07 AM
Post by: vudu on January 28, 2004, 09:07:16 AM
Post by: Majexto on January 28, 2004, 09:55:56 AM
Welp, they have 15 million dollars now to blow on there console.
- - http://www.vidgame.net/labs/phantom.html
A phantom in the color black? First time i saw that one.
- - http://www.bizwiz.com/ezcommerce/infiniumlabs.htm
A little bit behind the phantom concept.
- - http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=SVBIZINK5.story&STORY=/www/story/01-06-2004/0002084272&EDATE=TUE+Jan+06+2004,+03:45+PM
Info about the merger.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 28, 2004, 12:26:57 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 28, 2004, 02:07:15 PM
Have you checked out their website?
Phantom.net
There is no info, and a some really blurry pics of who they are supposedly working with?
Is this supposed to sell me on the Phantom?
a limited time only offer of "Lifetime Subscription!?"
This has got to be a joke!
Post by: manunited4eva22 on January 29, 2004, 01:24:31 PM
Please check back to this site at a later date for the latest exciting exclusive and popular game titles that are pending developer/publisher approval. Please contact us if you have any questions.
Thank you for your cooperation."
Read: We are going to PCGamer.com and copying their games list.
Post by: Majexto on January 29, 2004, 04:23:01 PM
Uuuh are you sure phantom.net is the official site? The web design seems a little mediocre compared to the infinum labs website. I think it might even be making fun of the phantom. I mean look at the games in the upper right corner there all like abc, sesame street, doctor etc. im probably wrong but it was just a guess.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2004, 04:52:30 PM
This is a big f***'n joke. The company site is flashy, but the product site is pathetic, and barely a half a**ed attempt.
Post by: JB on February 01, 2004, 12:07:23 AM
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Originally posted by: Majexto
http://www.infiniumlabs.com
Uuuh are you sure phantom.net is the official site? The web design seems a little mediocre compared to the infinum labs website. I think it might even be making fun of the phantom. I mean look at the games in the upper right corner there all like abc, sesame street, doctor etc. im probably wrong but it was just a guess.
No, all those games have been officialy announced by Infinium Labs.
Post by: Majexto on February 01, 2004, 05:46:56 PM
