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Title: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Stogi on October 21, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
So I want to get a feel of how many people are going to buy one of the new systems and why?


Is it the games at launch that interest you or just down the road? Are those games gonna be significantly better than those released for the PS3 and 360?

Is it the networking and online functions that interest you?

Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: broodwars on October 21, 2013, 02:04:04 PM
I will be buying a PS4 at launch, as I've said previously. Unlike a lot of people, I don't hate Killzone simple because it's not Halo or Call of Duty. I'm actually excited to play Killzone: Shadow Fall, especially after playing Killzone Mercenary a few months ago (several of the features I really like in Mercenary will also be in Shadow Fall, such as the Vanguard system being incorporated into your OWL). Knack also looks potentially quite interesting, and as a big fan of the Infamous franchise the upcoming Infamous Second Son really appeals to me as well (granted, I'll have to wait until February to play that).

I'm also just excited to get to play with new hardware, the same reason I bought a Wii U (I guess).
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 21, 2013, 02:14:49 PM
I hope to win an Xbone in the Doritos-Dew contest and sell it. Does that count?
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 21, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
Nope. If I'm still playing games in the future, it will be through Nintendo systems. I'm a loyalist no matter how many mistakes they may make. If you think that's wrong, then I don't want to be right.
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Post by: nickmitch on October 21, 2013, 02:25:10 PM
Gonna be a no from me. It's expensive, and I already have a considerable backlog.
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on October 21, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
No
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Post by: Ceric on October 21, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
I have a lot of Equity from my PS3 which covers the cost of the PS4.  So I'm going in for my new media devise.  Plus its suppose to have the best version of Skylanders :P
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on October 21, 2013, 04:12:43 PM
I already have a considerable backlog.

This is why I was unsure about getting a Wii U even.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on October 21, 2013, 06:21:51 PM
I have pre-ordered a PS4, but I'm not going to pretend that the software available at launch is hugely enticing. I do plan to pick up Shadow Fall and Resogun, but the games I'm really excited for are Second Sons, The Witness and Watch Dogs.

So why am I picking one up at launch? I mean, the launch line-up isn't all that great (although I am genuinely interested in Shadow Fall having never played a Killzone game), I have no attachment to Sony as a company having never owned one of their systems, and I'm not exactly made of money. The reasons for which I am picking up a PS4 are largely selfish.
 
Firstly, I skipped the PS3 and 360. Had I known the generation would be this long I definitely would have jumped ship sooner, but I kept pushing it off, telling myself that I had waited this long and that I might as well wait until new hardware shipped. So my first reason for picking up a Next-gen console at launch is because the last console I purchased was the Wii, and frankly I've been waiting a long time for something new.
 
"But it's all about the games" I hear you cry, "and you just said you didn't like any of 'em." Well I guess that's true, but I do find the PS4 hardware exciting for it's potential, and I think Sony has made a convincing case that they mean to support this system (hopefully better than they supported the Vita). It has been demonstrated many times before that a hungry company makes for a successful platform, and Sony is nothing if not hungry.
 
So those are my reasons: I really want a new home console (I'm shallow, I know),The PS4 has some games coming next year that look really sweet, and Sony has made the most convincing case that their system will be the one that will best match my tastes over the course of the next 4-5 years.
 
So basically you can boil my reasons down to 'PixPix likes shiny things'.
 
Is it a punt? Sure. Am I excited about getting to play with my new toy? Absolutely!
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: ShyGuy on October 21, 2013, 09:11:03 PM
Are they doing that PS4 Taco Bell contest in the UK?
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Stogi on October 21, 2013, 09:24:31 PM
PixPix....why don't you just buy a PS3 and 360? They both have a fantastic catalog of games, all of which are cheaper than anything coming out for the PS4.
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Post by: Shaymin on October 21, 2013, 10:10:06 PM
In short, no. In long, nooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Post by: Kytim89 on October 22, 2013, 02:20:01 AM
I have no intention of owning a Microsoft console anytime soon. Although I am primarily a Nintendo loyalist, I am interested in owning a PS4 and Vita (and TV). This is mainly due to the fact that the Vita can be obtained very cheaply used and that there are a few quality titles for it. Playstation Plus allows for a wide selection of cheap and free games as well. As for the PS4, I am hoping that Playstation Plus puts me in a situation where I can catch up on all of the PS2 and PS3 games that I missed out on in the past seven years. The Wii U and 3DS will be my primary consoles, but the PS4 and Vita (and TV) will be supported very cheaply.
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Post by: MagicCow64 on October 22, 2013, 07:15:26 AM
Nope. I'll never buy a Sony console. I strongly dislike Microsoft in theory and resent their forced entry into the console market, but I nonetheless owned a 360 at several points to play current gen titles (and the controller is quite good). But both times I had a 360 I got really sick of the blang blang games and found most of the indie stuff overrated and ended up selling the system. The only game I truly loved was Red Dead Redemption, otherwise I feel like I wouldn't have missed anything essential.


And now on new console eve, I don't even have a passing interest. Games all look like the same old, the media feature/ad/online focus firehose is distasteful. If someone gave me one of the consoles I'd take it, but unless there's some kind of crazy gameplay breakthrough that doesn't involve online multiplayer I think WiiU might be the last console I own.
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Post by: Adrock on October 22, 2013, 07:27:36 AM
I'm not getting either at launch. 2015 at the earliest for PS4. I doubt One will have enough exclusives to justify ever getting it. I have no real issue with the console and I like the controller; PS4 is just the better choice for me. Ultimately, I'll probably wait for the slim PS4 and a price drop. Wii U and 3DS will take up most of my gaming time.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on October 22, 2013, 08:54:32 AM
PixPix....why don't you just buy a PS3 and 360? They both have a fantastic catalog of games, all of which are cheaper than anything coming out for the PS4.

You're probably correct. That might have been the smart decision.
 
I definitely considered buying a PS3 or 360, but for one reason or another it never happened. As the generation went on I did have access to 360 games through my brother and eventually my housemate, so although I didn't own either system I felt as if I played a decent amount of what they had to offer. I guess I'm opting not to buy one now because I'm ready to see what the next generation of console games can offer.
 
Really, that's what it comes down to for me. I've been waiting to buy a new system for several years and I'm really eager to see what these next-gen games are capable of. For me it's an investment. I wouldn't try to convince anyone that they should buy a PS4 or Xbox One at launch, people can make their own minds up, but on this occasion I really do want to get in on the ground floor of something new.
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Post by: nickmitch on October 22, 2013, 10:16:10 AM
I already have a considerable backlog.

This is why I was unsure about getting a Wii U even.

I was too, but at least I can play my Wii backlog on the Wii U.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on October 22, 2013, 06:55:11 PM
I already have a considerable backlog.

This is why I was unsure about getting a Wii U even.

I was too, but at least I can play my Wii backlog on the Wii U.

That's what I thought too. I haven't done the transfer of Wii files over to the Wii U yet though. From what I can see, doing so will pretty much render my Wii useless and hard to justify even keeping around since it will have no saves on it, Wiiconnect is shut down and the Wii U can play all the Wii games. Unlike other Nintendo systems, I don't see a need to ever re-hook it up once I do the transfer.

The only reason I haven't done the transfer is because of Fortune Street. That save data can not be copied or moved. I know because a friend wanted a copy of my data since I had unlocked everything in it. That way, if I went to his place, he'd have all the data also. But for some reason that isn't an option. So, if I move it to the Wii U, it will be stuck there. However, my friends don't have Wii U's yet so unlike just bring my Wii over and hooking it up using the cords at their place, I would have to take everything over to hook it up to play with all that data which I don't plan on doing.

A minor problem I guess but annoying that I just couldn't copy that data onto an SD card. It's like the GameCube. There were some save files you weren't allowed to copy or transfer either. F-Zero GX springs to mind. I wanted to back up that save file after all I accomplished in the game but wasn't allowed to. Wouldn't you know it? It ended up getting corrupted and I lost it all. Say what you will about cartridges and CD's but I've never had an issue with cartidges saves. Why do some save files prevent you from being able to back them up? I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: nickmitch on October 22, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
I have my Wii in another room.

Sometimes I play Wii Sports on it.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: azeke on October 22, 2013, 11:46:20 PM
My Wii is a Gamecube machine at this point.

As thread question: not going to buy any new consoles anytime soon.

Neither of them so far have any must-have exclusives for me. Even combined, their line-up is rather weak. Microsoft does have some semi-interesting stuff though, with Dead Rising.

Also all multiplatform games are on PC, so should i even find myself interested in them i could always play it there.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on October 23, 2013, 10:13:28 AM
My Wii is a Gamecube machine at this point.

I wouldn't recommend doing that. I still think it was using the Wii as a Gamecube that corrupted my memory card. I have a cousin who also thinks I could be right about that because he later also had his memory corrupted and it only happened after he started using it in his Wii. After it happened to me, I've never put a GC memory card into the Wii and there's never been a problem of any more corrupted data on them since.
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Post by: Adrock on October 23, 2013, 12:01:01 PM
That happened to me too. It was a 1019. Tears. Tears everywhere.
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on October 23, 2013, 12:24:05 PM
I kept getting this sporadic message on the Wii when it was trying to boot up: "system files corrupted". It was fairly easily solved by restarting the Wii.


And, now, with system transfer, the same thing happens with the WiiU when booting into Wii mode. Not every time but about a third of the time. Weird.
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Post by: lolmonade on October 23, 2013, 03:58:51 PM
I was going to get a PS4 at launch, but changed my mind after realizing inFamous is the first PS4 game I really care about playing.  I figure I'll hold-off and see if there are any bundles or deals I can pounce on a few months down the road, depending on how well (or poorly) they're doing.
 
 
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Post by: oohhboy on October 28, 2013, 07:45:23 AM
NO, so much No.

Building a new computer instead, selling the old one. Both consoles are getting so far away from the core functions of playing games there is no point in putting in the investment in them and paying a higher price for games I can play at an even higher setting with the freedom to mod with incredible stuff on a PC/MAC.

Yeah, buying a computer does come with higher initial outlay and I do have to do some self tech support. But the savings and the choice of games available more than make up for it monetarily.

Got a WiiU though and its waiting for X.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: UncleBob on October 28, 2013, 08:31:21 AM
The only reason I haven't done the transfer is because of Fortune Street. That save data can not be copied or moved.

Is there something special about the Fortune Street save?

I thought the Wii to Wii U transfer even transferred the "locked" files (Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, etc.)
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: azeke on October 28, 2013, 08:44:28 AM
Is there something special about the Fortune Street save?

I thought the Wii to Wii U transfer even transferred the "locked" files (Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, etc.)
That save transfer issue is probably something to do with online modes.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:37:16 PM
The only reason I haven't done the transfer is because of Fortune Street. That save data can not be copied or moved.

Is there something special about the Fortune Street save?

I thought the Wii to Wii U transfer even transferred the "locked" files (Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, etc.)

I think he mentions why that save file is special for him here:

So, if I move it to the Wii U, it will be stuck there. However, my friends don't have Wii U's yet so unlike just bringing my Wii over and hooking it up using the cords at their place, I would have to take everything over to hook it up to play with all that data which I don't plan on doing.

A minor problem I guess but annoying that I just couldn't copy that data onto an SD card.

Sounds like it is just a matter of being able to take his Wii easily over to friends but with the Wii U, not as easy. Of course, I could be understanding this wrong but hopefully Khushrenada can state definitively if that's what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:37:28 PM
The only reason I haven't done the transfer is because of Fortune Street. That save data can not be copied or moved.

Is there something special about the Fortune Street save?

I thought the Wii to Wii U transfer even transferred the "locked" files (Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, etc.)

I think he mentions why that save file is special for him here:

So, if I move it to the Wii U, it will be stuck there. However, my friends don't have Wii U's yet so unlike just bringing my Wii over and hooking it up using the cords at their place, I would have to take everything over to hook it up to play with all that data which I don't plan on doing.

A minor problem I guess but annoying that I just couldn't copy that data onto an SD card.

Sounds like it is just a matter of being able to take his Wii easily over to friends but with the Wii U, not as easy. Of course, I could be understanding this wrong but hopefully Khushrenada can state definitively if that's what he's talking about.

Yeah, you got it.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:37:34 PM
Thanks.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:40:52 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:41:28 PM
We should do this more often.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:42:06 PM
Well, I'm usually posting all around this site so anytime you want to talk more, just post something.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:42:12 PM
I'll do that.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:42:21 PM
Cool. Look forward to it.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:42:36 PM
Do you think people will find this strange?
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:43:01 PM
Who knows? I just post it and let others do the deciding of whether it is acceptable or not.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
That's the way to be.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:43:23 PM
I may have really derailed this thread though.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:43:44 PM
Yeah... Maybe we should continue this conversation somewhere else.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
Good idea. I'll send you a pm.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 02:44:06 PM
Sounds good. Byeeee.
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Post by: Ceric on October 28, 2013, 02:45:15 PM
Khush has finally cracked.  Again.


Seriously any XBone Pre-Orderers reassesing in light of the current news?

Also my PS4 Controller is in today so I'm going to pick that up if I ever get my car.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: magicpixie on October 28, 2013, 04:39:54 PM
I thought about it a lot, but the steering wheel situation on the Xbone means that Forza 5 is a no-go for me.  As it is right now, the only games that might force my hand are Titanfall and Destiny, which aren't scheduled to release until the spring.  Games like Watchdogs and AC4, I'll just play on my PC.

It isn't helping matters that both Sony and Microsoft are being so tight-lipped about actual performance for a lot of the launch titles, so all we have are rumours to base our decisions on.  I get why they are being so secretive, especially if the rumours of certain titles on one console not being at parity with the same game on the other console end up being true.  I'll probably end up waiting for things to settle and pick one(probably a PS4), next holiday season.
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Post by: Pixelated Pixies on October 28, 2013, 06:38:11 PM
Seriously any XBone Pre-Orderers reassesing in light of the current news?


I take it you're talking about the online infrastructure problems that are rumoured to be facing the Xbox One at launch? If you are, has anything actually been confirmed yet? I found all the rumours for both consoles this past weekend to be really quite confusing. It's hard to keep up.
 
My understanding is that the PlayStation 4 is now considered by some to be on fire because Sony have not made the system widely available to those in the press who aren't attending their launch events (it's called controlling the message), while on the other side the Xbox One is over before it got started because Call of Duty: Ghosts (which, by the way, is a launch day port, a cross generation game, and working off a very old engine) doesn't run as well as it does on PS4.
 
I guess the worst case scenario would be that Sony's servers are crashed on day one by everyone trying to download the initial patch (which seems pretty essential), but would that really be so surprising to anyone who has pre-ordered it? I mean, anyone with the inclination to pre-order either of these systems should be very much aware that they're coming in hot. These consoles are now too bloated and complicated with all their various systems not to fail in some way come launch day. It's not an eventuality, it's an inevitability.
 
Anyone who buys one of these things at launch is f***ing crazy.
 
*Editor's Note - PixPix, as a soon to be owner of a PS4, includes himself within said 'f***ing crazy' group, and proud of it.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: MagicCow64 on October 28, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
Seriously any XBone Pre-Orderers reassesing in light of the current news?


I take it you're talking about the online infrastructure problems that are rumoured to be facing the Xbox One at launch? If you are, has anything actually been confirmed yet? I found all the rumours for both consoles this past weekend to be really quite confusing. It's hard to keep up.
 
My understanding is that the PlayStation 4 is now considered by some to be on fire because Sony have not made the system widely available to those in the press who aren't attending their launch events (it's called controlling the message), while on the other side the Xbox One is over before it got started because Call of Duty: Ghosts (which, by the way, is a launch day port, a cross generation game, and working off a very old engine) doesn't run as well as it does on PS4.
 
I guess the worst case scenario would be that Sony's servers are crashed on day one by everyone trying to download the initial patch (which seems pretty essential), but would that really be so surprising to anyone who has pre-ordered it? I mean, anyone with the inclination to pre-order either of these systems should be very much aware that they're coming in hot. These consoles are now too bloated and complicated with all their various systems not to fail in some way come launch day. It's not an eventuality, it's an inevitability.
 
Anyone who buys one of these things at launch is f***ing crazy.
 
*Editor's Note - PixPix, as a soon to be owner of a PS4, includes himself within said 'f***ing crazy' group, and proud of it.


I agree, but how nuts is it that the actual community is half-expecting these new consoles to be wrecks and is still buying them, just to be part of the zeitgeist?


Anyhow, though, cuz this is a 'Tendo site, can we imagine for a moment an upshot? Both PS4 and Xbone exhibit terrible defects in the opening days, which from the sound of it could be more serious than Wii U OS woes. Faith is shaken in the already dubious promise of "next gen." Wii U picks up like the least rude guy in the bar, and all of the sudden the world has changed!
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Post by: shingi_70 on October 28, 2013, 08:15:24 PM
Nope, its mostly a money problem but at this point between delays (Drive Club, Xbox Indie program not ready till next year, and feature set not being ready (a lot about the Xbox and suspend/resume on PS4) neither one would be getting my money until next year, probably after Titanfall or second son.

Ouya is probably the best bet these days.
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Post by: UncleBob on October 28, 2013, 10:22:17 PM
The only reason I haven't done the transfer is because of Fortune Street. That save data can not be copied or moved.

Is there something special about the Fortune Street save?

I thought the Wii to Wii U transfer even transferred the "locked" files (Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, etc.)

I think he mentions why that save file is special for him here:

So, if I move it to the Wii U, it will be stuck there. However, my friends don't have Wii U's yet so unlike just bringing my Wii over and hooking it up using the cords at their place, I would have to take everything over to hook it up to play with all that data which I don't plan on doing.

A minor problem I guess but annoying that I just couldn't copy that data onto an SD card.

Sounds like it is just a matter of being able to take his Wii easily over to friends but with the Wii U, not as easy. Of course, I could be understanding this wrong but hopefully Khushrenada can state definitively if that's what he's talking about.

Yeah, you got it.

Still confused.  You can hook up a Wii U using the power cable, a/v cables and sensor bar from the original Wii.  You just swap out the console itself.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2013, 11:08:55 PM
Oh jeez. Really? I could tell the sensor bar was the same but I didn't look that close at the other two outlets. While that means I'd still have to bring the Wii U pad and be a bit more careful, that makes things easier than I thought. Man, this really just is Wii HD. But I still stand by the fact that I hate how some save data can not be copied and backed up. At this point, I should try and make sure everything gets saved on an SD card so at least I can pull it out and back it up on my computer.
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Post by: UncleBob on October 28, 2013, 11:20:32 PM
Oh, I agree it's stupid.  Remember, I'm the guy who lost all of his Animal Crossing, Smash Bros and Mario Kart save data.

Just confused as to your reasoning. :D

With all that said, I'm pretty sure if you were to homebrew your Wii, you can then "unlock" all your save files.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on October 28, 2013, 11:56:29 PM
Well careful.  Yes, and no it is Wii HD.  It is common practice to use similar power supplies and cable output/inputs for the devices.  Afterall, standardization makes things cheaper and easier.

I am really curious to see what happens at the end of this holiday season.  If the PS4 or Xbox One gets a user base even half as large as the Wii U in a few short months then the Wii U is dead in the water for 3rd party support.

If the PS4 and Xbox One struggle the first year like Wii U did, and grow about similar if not slightly better rates than the Wii U.  The first year, then Nintendo will actually be in great shape.  2014 is not going to be the year of next generation games, but the year of final PS3 and Xbox 360 games.  This means that the Wii U will likely get most of the ports of those games...and there will also be up ports for the next generation systems.

If the Wii U, can establish a strong user base in its second year with a games library that competes with the new systems then price and games can help Nintendo survey this generation which many have already written off as a lost cause.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on October 29, 2013, 03:07:32 AM

If the Wii U, can establish a strong user base in its second year with a games library that competes with the new systems then price and games can help Nintendo survey this generation which many have already written off as a lost cause.

I don't think it's a question of 'Will Nintendo survive?' (I assumed that's what you meant), because the answer is 'yes'. The larger problem facing Nintendo is that Third Parties will always seek to design games with the potential combined audience of XBone, PS4 and PC in mind, as these platforms are more comparable. Designing games for a lead platform and then porting to the other is, therefore, much more cost effective.
 
In Nintendo's case, not having Third Party support isn't as debilitating as it would be for Sony or Microsoft, because Nintendo have such strong first party games, but it is an issue which will prevent the Wii U from finding much traction outside of the Nintendo faithful.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on October 29, 2013, 04:15:48 AM
No I do not mean will Nintendo as a company survive.  I mean looking at this console generation will the Wii U have 3rd party support and be a viable main system for gamers. 

I think the Wii U will have an audience as Nintendo always does for their games, and will be profitable with this generation.  But with every generation which Nintendo is the second system gamers own, Nintendo loses dedicated pure Nintendo fans.  So, Nintendo needs to have a generation again which gamers could viably JUST have a Nintendo system. 
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Post by: oohhboy on October 29, 2013, 07:41:04 AM
Teehee
(http://i.imgur.com/hbynOaQl.jpg)
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: UncleBob on October 29, 2013, 08:24:27 AM
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=14028.0
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: shingi_70 on October 29, 2013, 12:35:02 PM
Wii U is the best bet of the next gen consoles this year. If I were to recommend someone to get a new Console the Wii U is the top dog unless the person doesn't have a PS3 or 360.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 29, 2013, 07:47:41 PM
Wii U is the best bet of the next gen consoles this year. If I were to recommend someone to get a new Console the Wii U is the top dog unless the person doesn't have a PS3 or 360.

Just curious why?  Or rather how would you convince someone of that...specially if they are looking at the market and future of this generation.

Personally, I could only really afford one system.  And I do like Nintendo's lineup of games.  I would probably get 3-4 games for the Nintendo Wii U...perhaps a 5th if I owned the system.  But, looking at what is going on in the industry what do you say to the skeptics?
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Mop it up on November 14, 2013, 08:08:56 PM
I'm not, and probably never will. They are both even less interesting to me than the Xbox 360 and PS3 currently are, and those two systems are pretty uninteresting as is. Plus, the stuff I've heard about possibly locking out used games and the always online connection stuff and the mandatory installs, the future of those systems is pretty worrisome.

If I get anything, it'd be a super cheap PS3 or 360. I got a PS2 for $30 and that's probably what it'd take to get either of those systems.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: azeke on November 14, 2013, 08:56:54 PM
I'm not, and probably never will. They are both even less interesting to me than the Xbox 360 and PS3 currently are
While i agree that both launch line-ups are barren for now, you should never say never.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: MagicCow64 on November 14, 2013, 10:44:47 PM
I could afford a next gen console, but I still can't see myself getting one in the foreseeable future. If anything I'll probably just get a decent PC that can run games I've missed in the last five years and keep up for a year or two into the future, hopefully longer with low-settings (a graphics whore I am not).


I'm sure there will come a moment, though, where something truly impressive drops and I'll be tempted. I'm not sure that there's going to be another "Gears of War rain level" moment, though, given how advanced things have already become.




Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Nemo on November 14, 2013, 11:00:03 PM
No, I hardly have time or money for video games right now and I already invested in Wii U (and 3DS). I still need to finish Pikmin 3 and I'll be getting Mario 3D World.

I also have barely gotten/played many games for 360. So, I could frugally dip into that platform's library.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 14, 2013, 11:28:07 PM
Selling one of my PS3s and 360s, and my 3DS to get a PS4. I don't know why...I just want one. I wouldn't stand in line or anything, but I have 2 PS3s, 2 360s, and have played my 3DS maybe 4 times since I bought it at launch.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on November 15, 2013, 01:57:16 AM
REALLY?! I could understand if you wanted to sell off a Wii U as the software library is not nearly as varied or interesting as the 3DS but the 3DS library has had a slam dunk this year. What, may I ask, turned you off from it? How is that there is no software to keep you interested?
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 15, 2013, 07:57:10 AM
No time for it.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 15, 2013, 07:57:41 AM
Plus I got my daughter one, so if there's something that I *have* to play, I can play it.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: ShyGuy on November 15, 2013, 11:37:52 AM
Anybody actually get the PS4 at launch? Or are we playing by Nintendo-size 'launch window' rules?
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: shingi_70 on November 15, 2013, 11:46:58 AM
I think broodwars did.



Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Louieturkey on November 15, 2013, 03:18:50 PM
I've heard Ceric is getting one as well.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: broodwars on November 15, 2013, 03:25:24 PM
I've heard Ceric is getting one as well.

I think broodwars did.

Yes on both counts. We both got ours.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Mop it up on November 15, 2013, 05:44:33 PM
I'm not, and probably never will. They are both even less interesting to me than the Xbox 360 and PS3 currently are
While i agree that both launch line-ups are barren for now, you should never say never.
Well I didn't say "never" I said "probably never." ;) And considering I still haven't gotten a PS3 or 360 after 7-8 years, I'm pretty confident in that statement.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: lolmonade on November 15, 2013, 06:03:58 PM
As my wife and I walked along the vacant PS4 section of my local Target, she said she was disappointed that I cancelled my pre-order.


I asked her what games she wanted to play on the PS4, and she said "....nothing, really".  I said "me neither", and told her i'd look into getting one after there are a few games I know I want to play, otherwise it'll turn into another $400 netflix machine until then.


Curious to hear people's thoughts on the PS4's UI and experiences playing it so far, though.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on November 15, 2013, 08:02:20 PM
As my wife and I walked along the vacant PS4 section of my local Target, she said she was disappointed that I cancelled my pre-order.

When you say the section was vacant, do you mean of people or of PS4's?

The PS4 won't launch in Europe for a couple of weeks, so I'm just curious whether or not PS4's are readily obtainable in stores in North America.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: NeoStar9X on November 15, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
I really thought about getting a PS4. I had it pre-ordered twice on Amazon at separate times but ultimately realized there was nothing I really wanted to play at launch. Well maybe one game but not enough that I was willing to drop over $400 to play it. I don't want to repeat the mistake I did with the Wii U. I should have wait with that.

I'm still torn on which one to get in the end. I'm looking at exclusives going forward as I've come to realize multiplatforms really aren't doing it for me. So my purchases of those are likely to be extremely limited going forward.

PS4: Deep Down, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Drive Club, The Order, and possibly Infamous
XB1: Titan Fall, Halo, Project Spark
Multiplatform: Destiny

That's what I'm looking forward to but I don't even know if they'll hold up in the end. They might not.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on November 15, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
As my wife and I walked along the vacant PS4 section of my local Target, she said she was disappointed that I cancelled my pre-order.

When you say the section was vacant, do you mean of people or of PS4's?

The PS4 won't launch in Europe for a couple of weeks, so I'm just curious whether or not PS4's are readily obtainable in stores in North America.

I would assume he meant vacant of PS4's. Otherwise, why would the wife be disappointed that he cancelled the pre-order when they could pick one up right then and there? She would only be disappointed because there were none in stock and now that means they would have to wait awhile for new stock to come in when they could have potentially had it right away.

C'mon Pixpix. That's reading comprehension and basic logic, (not to mention efficient storytelling), you should give your head a shake.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Khushrenada on November 15, 2013, 08:24:04 PM
Plus I got my daughter one, so if there's something that I *have* to play, I can play it.

Oh, you've got a back-up system. Well, no wonder than. Inquiry closed.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: lolmonade on November 15, 2013, 11:54:47 PM
As my wife and I walked along the vacant PS4 section of my local Target, she said she was disappointed that I cancelled my pre-order.

When you say the section was vacant, do you mean of people or of PS4's?

The PS4 won't launch in Europe for a couple of weeks, so I'm just curious whether or not PS4's are readily obtainable in stores in North America.


PS4s.  There was a Target employee explaining to a guy why he can't expect them to be available again for a minimum of 3 weeks.


I haven't actively searched for an available one, but I've been to Target & Wal-Mart today and didn't see one at either of their gaming sections.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Gamejunkie on November 24, 2013, 12:02:51 PM
I preordered both consoles back in June. I picked up my Xbox One Day One edition with a free copy of Forza Motorsport 5, a play and charge kit and a day one 1 year Xbox Live subscription with some extra bonuses included on Friday. I'm in the UK so I will be picking up my PS4 this coming Friday 29th. I'm excited about both comsoles but more so for the PS4 so I can't wait til Friday.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 24, 2013, 12:22:25 PM
I didn't end up buying it at launch, but I changed my mind on waiting and plan on buying one in a week when I have more money, assuming I can find one.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 24, 2013, 12:52:56 PM
I just bought a PS4 at Best Buy.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: nickmitch on November 24, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
Did you just walk in a get one?
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 25, 2013, 01:18:24 AM
Yes, they weren't on shelves, I went to the counter and asked and they said yep, and handed me one. All GameStop stores were out and the next closest Best Buy was out too. I asked about Xbone and they said they won't have any until December 22nd.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 25, 2013, 01:28:19 AM
No Xbones until the 22nd? Microsoft is just handing Sony the holiday season on a silver platter.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 25, 2013, 08:37:37 AM
I'm sure they'll have some on Friday, but that's what the girl told me Microsoft or corporate told them.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on November 30, 2013, 12:33:28 PM
Yesterday was Playstation 4 Day in Europe and since receiving my system I've had a blast with it (Resogun in particular being a highlight, but I've also been enjoying Killzone multiplayer despite sucking really hard at it).

None of my friends, however, have taken the plunge with me, so my friends list is pretty sparse at the moment (i.e. non-existent). If there's any PS4 owners amongst the NWR community that feel like adding me, my tag is simply 'MartySmyth'.

...I'm taking the whole real name thing to it's zenith!
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Kytim89 on November 30, 2013, 04:48:52 PM
For anyone desperately looking for a cheap PS4, do not get the PS4 mixed up with a bag of towels. Save that for the Xbox One.  ;)

http://gazette.com/craiglist-scam-ruins-christmas-gift-plans-for-colorado-springs-father/article/1510091#cpxuXelLtO8MEbYL.99
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 01, 2013, 08:28:10 PM
Does anyone know if the Xbox Arcade games from the 360 will be playable on the Xbox One?  How about the Playstation store downloadable games?

With everything digital I would hope they at least figured out backwards comparability for downloadable games.
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Shaymin on December 01, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
Negative on both counts. PS4 might get something with the Gaikai streaming, and some of the games like Flower/fl0w/Sound Shapes are crossbuy PS3/PS4, but they're ports. Xbone was all "lol f that".
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 01, 2013, 11:02:01 PM
Well that is sad.  That makes me realize if I want to get new system...I will actually buy an old system.  Xbox Live Arcade has some great games on it...that I would totally buy.  I guess most of those games could be found on Steam right?
Title: Re: Is anyone actually buying a Xbone or PS4 at launch? Why?
Post by: Louieturkey on December 02, 2013, 06:01:30 PM
Well that is sad.  That makes me realize if I want to get new system...I will actually buy an old system.  Xbox Live Arcade has some great games on it...that I would totally buy.  I guess most of those games could be found on Steam right?

About 98% of them yes.