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Title: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Steel Diver on June 12, 2013, 01:03:32 PM

Peach gets no respect I tell ya, until now.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/34595

Koichi Hayashida, the director of Super Mario 3D World, revealed to Polygon that Princess Peach was not originally planned to be a part of the game.

Hayashida acknowledged the fact that Peach has not been playable in main line Mario games since the American version of Super Mario Bros. 2, but that Producer Yoshiaki Koizumi suggested she be included this time around. Hayashida confessed that he thought it would be nice to play as a female in a Mario game after all these years of representing male characters.

For his part, Koizumi wanted Princess Peach back because "she adds a lot to the sense of competition when you get in multiplayer" when players choose different characters to play based on their preferences and playstyles. Koizumi also added that he felt Peach is "really fun to play as."

Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: mustbeburt on June 12, 2013, 01:12:13 PM
It's honestly silly that it's taken this long.  The multi-colored Toads never made sense to me.  It's not like there's a lack of characters to choose from, even if it wasn't Princess Peach.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Adrock on June 12, 2013, 01:18:32 PM
I would have been more than happy to get Daisy if Nintendo needed Peach to get rescued. I like the throwback to Super Mario Bros. 2. I think I mentioned this in another thread. Maybe they're rescuing Daisy from Wart.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: DannyRaisin4 on June 12, 2013, 06:11:37 PM
Who gets captured, If it is not Peach then who is it?
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 12, 2013, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: DannyRaisin4 on June 12, 2013, 06:11:37 PM
Who gets captured, If it is not Peach then who is it?

There might not be someone who gets kidnapped, ala SMB 2.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: azeke on June 12, 2013, 10:59:38 PM
I don't really care much either way, but i just want to note that Koizumi is the best thing that happened to Nintendo in a few decades. Amazing designer.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: mustbeburt on June 13, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
I just hope you can play the slots in between levels to earn 1ups!
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Capturinggod200 on June 13, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
Talking about Peach finally get respect what about Daisy and Waluigi they have fans too who want to play as them in the smash bros series and the adventure mario series being in his spin off games are like a consolation prize everyone from the marioverse gets in so its not important come on Nintendo show Daisy and Waluigi some love and respect its a slap in the face to their fans.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: pokepal148 on June 13, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Capturinggod200 on June 13, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
Talking about Peach finally get respect what about Daisy and Waluigi they have fans too who want to play as them in the smash bros series and the adventure mario series being in his spin off games are like a consolation prize everyone from the marioverse gets in so its not important come on Nintendo show Daisy and Waluigi some love and respect its a slap in the face to their fans.
yeah... no, daisy defines lazy character design and waluigi is just bad character design
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Capturinggod200 on June 14, 2013, 12:23:14 AM
how the heck is Waluigi bad character design he was meant to look like sinister and twisted bizzaro luigi and Daisy a lazy character design and what does that say about Rosalina she looks exactly like Peach only with different hair Daisy has different facial features I swear why does everyone try to keep Daisy and Rosalina in Peach's shadow Daisy has more personality than the whole Mario cast combined and Rosalina has a great backstory and amazing abilities what so great about Peach don't get me wrong I like her but she is generic damsel in distress and a bland Disney Princess mary sue character I just say Nintendo are too lazy to come up with ideas for these 3 unused neglected characters.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Khushrenada on June 14, 2013, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: pokepal148 on June 13, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Capturinggod200 on June 13, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
Talking about Peach finally get respect what about Daisy and Waluigi they have fans too who want to play as them in the smash bros series and the adventure mario series being in his spin off games are like a consolation prize everyone from the marioverse gets in so its not important come on Nintendo show Daisy and Waluigi some love and respect its a slap in the face to their fans.
yeah... no, daisy defines lazy character design and waluigi is just bad character design

WHAT?!?!?! Walugi number 1!! Waa-haa!
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: nickmitch on June 14, 2013, 12:27:24 AM
Quote from: pokepal148 on June 13, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Capturinggod200 on June 13, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
Talking about Peach finally get respect what about Daisy and Waluigi they have fans too who want to play as them in the smash bros series and the adventure mario series being in his spin off games are like a consolation prize everyone from the marioverse gets in so its not important come on Nintendo show Daisy and Waluigi some love and respect its a slap in the face to their fans.
yeah... no, daisy defines lazy character design and waluigi is just bad character design

We don't appreciate any badmouthing of Princess Daisy in these forums, buddy.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Khushrenada on June 14, 2013, 12:31:54 AM
I bet if we made a motion to make Daisy the mascot/representative of these forums, it would be passed by a whopping majority.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Shaymin on June 14, 2013, 08:36:44 AM
Daisy is a tramp.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Doctor Video Games on June 14, 2013, 08:59:20 AM
Then the princess you rescue turns out to be Bowser in drag
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Ceric on June 14, 2013, 09:19:45 AM
Quote from: Khushrenada on June 14, 2013, 12:31:54 AM
I bet if we made a motion to make Daisy the mascot/representative of these forums, it would be passed by a whopping majority.
I know not a lot of people are old timers but, Daisy is pretty much the Mascot of these forums have been for a long time.

Also are we sure it didn't go more like this.  "We're putting a Cat Suit into the game.  We're putting Princess in the game to Wear the Cat Suit.  *We Can't make a power for 1 Character Sir.*  Give them all Cat Suits then but make Peaches different."
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Adrock on June 14, 2013, 09:44:55 AM
I had no idea that so many people here were Daisy fans. I always picked Daisy because no one ever picked Daisy when I played Mario Kart with friends.

And if Daisy is bashed for lazy character design, Luigi should be as well (which would be nonsense).
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Mop it up on June 14, 2013, 05:27:05 PM
Daisy is a popular character online in Mario Kart Wii because she is the statistically best middle-weight character.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Ian Sane on June 14, 2013, 06:15:17 PM
I think Daisy gained popularity on this board partially because she's a more obscure character.  She's not typically on the box art, she's not one of the main characters who shows up in every game.  You've got to be somewhat knowledgable of the Mario series to really know who she is.  In that sense she's a good barometer of how "hip" you are to Nintendo, which is perfect for a Nintendo fan site.

I also think there is a certain nature in a lot of people to be contrarian at times to feel independent.  So since Nintendo focuses on Peach and she's clearly more popular and well-known with the general public, Daisy's the obvious choice to not feel like you're just following the crowd.  But then you're not the only one who thought of that so you become the non-conformist that acts like the other non-conformists.  Preferring Daisy is the cliche for backing a "unique" character.  Now that's irony.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: EasyCure on June 14, 2013, 06:59:39 PM
or it could just be DAT ASS I miss pro :(
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Adrock on June 14, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
Daisy is pretty well known now and people still like her so I don't know if the non-conformist thing holds water. They would have moved on to different character. I used to pick Daisy because she was like the kid who always got picked last in gym class. As silly as this sounds, I kind of felt bad that no one ever picked her.

I used to pick Peach for no other reason than she was the best character from Super Mario Bros. 2 which didn't matter in Mario Kart, but whatever! I grew tired of Peach because she's portrayed so inconsistently. Some games she's kicking ass then the next she's helpless and annoying. Daisy kind of came back at the right time. Her near clean slate let me fill in the blanks of her character. I tend to imagine Daisy as the BAMF version of Peach who hover jumps, throws Psych-Bombs, and bashes people with her crown... except all the time. And if you compare personalities, it's no contest. Daisy wins. That said, it'll break my heart a little if she needs to be rescued in Super Mario 3D World.

Also, Daisy's "Aw, brutal!" from Mario Kart Double Dash is the second best sound clip of in the Mario Kart series. Only Mario's getting attacked yelp from Mario Kart DS is better.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: pokepal148 on June 15, 2013, 01:19:45 PM
Quote from: Ian Sane on June 14, 2013, 06:15:17 PM
I think Daisy gained popularity on this board partially because she's a more obscure character.  She's not typically on the box art, she's not one of the main characters who shows up in every game.  You've got to be somewhat knowledgable of the Mario series to really know who she is.  In that sense she's a good barometer of how "hip" you are to Nintendo, which is perfect for a Nintendo fan site.
there are better characters to go on for that rule...
case and point Booster
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Mop it up on June 15, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
Quote from: Adrock on June 14, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
Also, Daisy's "Aw, brutal!" from Mario Kart Double Dash is the second best sound clip of in the Mario Kart series. Only Mario's getting attacked yelp from Mario Kart DS is better.
Do you happen to know where to find sound clips of these? I looked and didn't find anything, and I don't remember them, so I'm curious.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: nickmitch on June 16, 2013, 01:02:07 AM
Quote from: Shaymin on June 14, 2013, 08:36:44 AM
Daisy is a tramp.

Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Adrock on June 16, 2013, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: Mop it up on June 15, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
Quote from: Adrock on June 14, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
Also, Daisy's "Aw, brutal!" from Mario Kart Double Dash is the second best sound clip of in the Mario Kart series. Only Mario's getting attacked yelp from Mario Kart DS is better.
Do you happen to know where to find sound clips of these? I looked and didn't find anything, and I don't remember them, so I'm curious.
I did some sleuthing and I found sound clips for almost every Mario Kart except Double Dash. There was one Double Dash youtube video that had the Daisy quote somewhere in the middle, but the quality was pretty terrible. Nintendo reuses a lot of the sound clips, but Daisy's "Aw, brutal!" wasn't brought back. I did find the Mario one, but I kind of feel like it sounds better in the game because you only hear the first part while you drive past.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: pokepal148 on June 16, 2013, 09:19:41 PM
sadly i don't think slim kirbys peach song would be safe to link here
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: destinyhayes on March 06, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
Daisy is popular in Japan, but not in America. Why do people just hate her over that "Hi I'm Daisy" thing? That was years ago!
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Soren on March 06, 2015, 08:05:22 PM
Quote from: destinyhayes on March 06, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
That was years ago!


So was this thread. Hey oh!
(http://www.mitchelaneous.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/edsounds.png)
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: broodwars on March 07, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
It's kind of bizarre that Nintendo wasn't originally going to use Princess Toadstool ( :P ) in 3D World considering she's kind of easily the best character in that game. I played that entire game basically only using her. Then they had to go and throw in the deceptively useless Rosalina. *shrug*
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: Phil on March 08, 2015, 12:31:22 AM
Quote from: Soren on March 06, 2015, 08:05:22 PM
Quote from: destinyhayes on March 06, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
That was years ago!


So was this thread. Hey oh!
(http://www.mitchelaneous.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/edsounds.png)


Haha. I'm dementedly picturing Ed McMahon's disembodied head haunting this topic now.
Title: Re: Princess Peach Was Not Originally In Super Mario 3D World
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 09, 2015, 11:46:26 PM
I used to have a crush on Daisy. But then I woke up and realized it was all just a really weird dream. Then I found this place and there was this dude who acted like he really did have a legit crush on her, it was weird.


Actually I always did pick Daisy in Mario Party because I hated how they changed Toadstool's name to Peach even though Peach isn't really as dumb as Toadstool if you think about it. Also everyone else always picked DK or Mario or Yoshi and my sister always made sure to pick Luigi no matter what.