Community Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: UncleBob on March 05, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Title: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: UncleBob on March 05, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
We kinda touched upon the topic of Milgram in the movie thread - and I thought this might be an interesting topic. Eventually, I'd like to move into the Stanford Prison, but let's continue the Milgram talk for now. :D
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: Oblivion on March 05, 2013, 08:44:13 PM
How different do you think the results would be today? More likely to rebel against the "man"? Or even more likely to follow blindingly?
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: UncleBob on March 05, 2013, 08:52:36 PM
I was thinking it would an interesting thing to do in a television game showesque environment.
I'd be horribly evil though. I'd get something like a husband and wife or father and daughter. I'd have one giving the shocks and say "You only win when the game is finished" (which, of course, would finish with the highest "shock". Then, I'd have the other on the other side of the wall and tell them "You only win if you can get them to stop shocking you... and you have to make it realistic. If you break character, you lose."
Then, daughter has to know that daddy is willing to shock the crap out of her for money. :D
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: UncleBob on March 05, 2013, 08:59:05 PM
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: nickmitch on March 05, 2013, 10:38:03 PM
The Zambardo Prison experiments were worse for only two reasons: 1) they went on way too long; 2) Philip Zambardo ended up marrying his intern (or some ****)
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: UncleBob on March 05, 2013, 10:43:17 PM
Didn't they go on for less than a week, even though they were scheduled for a month?
Either way, the concept smells of a reality TV show. We'll film it in a foreign country so US laws won't apply. :D
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: nickmitch on March 05, 2013, 10:56:41 PM
And it turned out that 6 days was way too long. :P
Zimbardo
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: Oblivion on March 05, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
Wait, why is it bad that he married the intern?
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 06, 2013, 11:01:13 AM
The Zambardo Prison experiments were worse for only two reasons: 1) they went on way too long; 2) Philip Zambardo ended up marrying his intern (or some ****)
She was actually his girlfriend and not his intern, and she had to show him the reality of the experiment since Zimbardo started to give in to the roles. The whole experiment had to be stopped since 1/3 of the students assigned to the guard roles apparently showed "genuine" sadistic tendencies and many of the students in the prisoner roles suffered emotional trauma.
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 06, 2013, 11:08:43 AM
reminds me of this:
Best part is when his gum falls out.
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: nickmitch on March 06, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
The Zambardo Prison experiments were worse for only two reasons: 1) they went on way too long; 2) Philip Zambardo ended up marrying his intern (or some ****)
She was actually his girlfriend and not his intern, and she had to show him the reality of the experiment since Zimbardo started to give in to the roles. The whole experiment had to be stopped since 1/3 of the students assigned to the guard roles apparently showed "genuine" sadistic tendencies and many of the students in the prisoner roles suffered emotional trauma.
The "or some ****" part was about her status as an intern. I think when I originally learned about the experiment I was told she was a "student" and not a "grad student" which could move her back within the standard creepiness rule.
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 06, 2013, 05:21:03 PM
From what I can find, she was not a student when the experiment took place. She got her PhD in 1971, and the experiment took place from August 14-20, 1971.
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: nickmitch on March 06, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
Still leaves about 4 months for her to finish her PhD.
Title: Re: We're not scientists, but let's talk science!
Post by: Stogi on March 06, 2013, 11:52:41 PM
