Nintendo's classic download service will return with some new surprises.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/33097
Wii U's Virtual Console service will begin immediately after a system update to the console scheduled for this spring.
Because titles are being reworked for off-screen use on the console's GamePad controller, Nintendo is unable to provide the entire existing list from the very start. However, a selection of NES and SNES titles will be available to start things off.
Prices will be the same as they were on the Wii Shop, though those who have already purchased titles on the Wii and used the System Transfer to move their data to Wii U will be able to purchase the upgraded versions for a significant discount. In the U.S., the discounted price will be $1 for NES and $1.50 for SNES games.
Furthermore, Game Boy Advance titles will be added to the eShop in the near future following the launch of the Virtual Console service, the first handheld Nintendo games to receive a Virtual Console version on a home console. No statement has been made whether these titles will also become available on the 3DS eShop to go with their Game Boy and Game Boy Color relatives.
GBA support on the Wii U Virtual Console was unexpected. Depending on what those games blown up into HD looks like, it may even be undesirable. However, this price markup to play your Virtual Console games on the GamePad is ridiculous, as is that the only games right now that will support the feature are NES and SNES games. That's a feature that should have been on the Wii U at launch. Nintendo's merely making changes to a single emulator for each platform, & then repackaging it w/ the existing games. Charging for this "feature" for each game you dare to desire to play on the GamePad (when "U playing all by Urself with the Gamepad" is one of Nintendo's big selling points with the Wii U) is pretty ridiculous.
I didn't expect Nintendo to give me Ocarina of Time 3D for free, nor do I expect them to give me Wind Waker HD for free. Why do you expect Nintendo to give you an enchanced version of a game you bought on a different console, for free?
You paid to play your games on the Wii. You thought that the price was fair, otherwise you wouldn't have paid it. When you buy a boxed video game, you get only one copy of it. Why should a download game be different? I didn't expect Nintendo to give me Ocarina of Time 3D for free, nor do I expect them to give me Wind Waker HD for free. Why do you expect Nintendo to give you an enchanced version of a game you bought on a different console, for free?
If we have to pay $1 to upgrade of VC games, does that mean NES games will now be $6 on WiiU?
The selling point of the GamePad was to play Wii U games with it, not Virtual Console games. And it's not fair to make someone who owns 2 games pay the same as someone who owns 200 games.
How are they overcharging for Wii U VC games? They will cost the SAME as on Wii.Hence Overcharging.
People complaining about paying a dollar or a buck 50 forYes to all of this.for a game you already own on a different system (probably multiple times) are quite ridiculous. The sense of entitlement as a WiiU owner here is amazing. So just because you bought vc games for a completely different console, games that you can still play on your WiiU, it means that any new enhancements to games you own should be free? Enhancements that take money to develop (and no, it isn't just a switch that's flipped to make things work), test, and put up for submission. Suddenly it's anti-consumer to charge for something new. Did people really believe that their entire Wii VC library was going to be enhanced on the WiiU and for free? Never since the system was announced did Nintendo say your existing VC library was gonna be enhanced for free, so why are you guys spouting nonsense like,
- a new emulator
- save/load states
- off-tv play
- miiverse intregration
"I already spent $350 for these features."
when you really didn't.
Also,VC games are not overpriced and whoever believes that either hasn't checked ebay prices of their favorite games of yesteryear or are too use to playing pirated roms on pc emulators. I will happily buy SMB3 for $5 knowing thatFor a game of that quality (that debuted at $50, 24 years ago) $5 is a steal.
- The games works every time I wanna play it and without glitches
- I have save states
- It's convenient
- It's cheaper than a physical copy and more reliable besides
- It's legal
Complaining that you have to pay a measily $1-$1.50 for enhanced versions of your favorite VC games is dumb. If off-tv play, miiverse, and save states aren't worth four quarters to you, don't pay for it. Geez, VC prices aren't even increasing once it hits the e-Shop.
That PSP/Vita/PS3 analogy is apples and oranges. PSOne games are the only ones that work almost universally reliably across those platforms and only recently with Vita. All PSP games do not work on Vita, regardless if you own it digitally and for the UMD transfer system in Japan, publishers were charging waaaay more than $1-$1.50 to convert the physical license to digital. Besides, the PS family of systems are only emulating 1-2 systems (PSONE and PSP), whereas Nintendo's VC is emulating 9 (if you count the handhelds).
TL:DR
- WiiU's VC service features sound great, Miiverse integration was a nice surprise
- Getting charged $1-$1.50 vs. regular price for games I choose to purchase again on a new system is nice
- VC games prices will remain static
- Complaining about choosing to re-buy games you already own multiple times on different systems is dumb. Especially when you are currently not locked out from enjoying your VC library on your WiiU.
Folks are never happy unless everything is given to them YESTERDAY and for free.
We all vote with our wallets.
Doesn't mean we waive our right to complain. Doesn't mean we're ungrateful because we complain.
If you take inflation into account, VC games are actually cheaper than they were six years ago.How are they overcharging for Wii U VC games? They will cost the SAME as on Wii.Hence Overcharging.
Any idea on how much the other Virtual Consoles will cost?
- Genesis: $1.50
- Master System: $1.00
- TG-16: $1.50
- N64: $2.50
- Neo Geo: $3.00
Any idea on how much the other Virtual Consoles will cost?
- Genesis: $1.50
- Master System: $1.00
- TG-16: $1.50
- N64: $2.50
- Neo Geo: $3.00
Why would you think Neo Geo games would be more than N64 games? The likely reason SNES is $0.50 more than NES to upgrade is because SNES games cost more on the VC. N64 games are $10 while Neo Geo games are $9, so I would expect Neo Geo to be less than N64.
The Wii VC games are already compatible with the Wii U; you're paying for new functionality. What new functionality has Sony added to those PS1 classics over the years?
If you don't think it's worth a dollar or two to get Off-TV play, save states and control customization, then you don't have to pay it.And Miiverse integration. Don't forget that. It's wonderful.
The Wii VC games are already compatible with the Wii U; you're paying for new functionality. What new functionality has Sony added to those PS1 classics over the years?
Graphical filtering options and Analog Stick support on games released during that Dualshock transition period. Along with graphical filtering options of their own, the PSP games also have enhancements to let you map button commands onto the right analog stick (which, for some games, means you can emulate dual analog support) & rear touch pad (which, naturally, the PSP didn't have).
And no, I don't think it's worth an additional $1 - $1.50 per game for Off-TV play, because that's why I already paid $350+ for a Wii U. A one-time fee to cover everything would be one thing, but for the amount of money I would have to pay to "upgrade" just these NES and SNES games, I could practically buy a new game.
If you take inflation into account, VC games are actually cheaper than they were six years ago.How are they overcharging for Wii U VC games? They will cost the SAME as on Wii.Hence Overcharging.
The kicker is they aren't charging the new audience the fee (because NES games are still $5, etc.). They are only charging this to the existing customers that have supported this service since day one.That's like getting mad because you bought a game on release day and a year later, a Game of the Year Edition comes out for the same price. Or that you bought a game that later received a price drop. No offense, but I'm not especially sympathetic. You got to play the games sooner. You paid what you felt was fair at the time and others did not. If those holdouts now feel the prices are fair, good for them. They got to save some dough. Don't act like you didn't get what you paid for at the time you paid for it. Nintendo didn't have to do this at all. They could have forced everyone to rebuy everything at full price. Backwards compatibility, hardware or software wise, is a perk, not the entire point of a new platform.
...Backwards compatibility, hardware or software wise, is a perk, not the entire point of a new platform.
Actually that is the only reason I became a PS3 owner....Backwards compatibility, hardware or software wise, is a perk, not the entire point of a new platform.
This. I get that supporting backwards compatibility for a new system is desirable and something that fans of the system hope for when supporting the successor of their favorite gaming system. But ultimately, it is not the reason you are buying the new system for.
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Actually that is the only reason I became a PS3 owner.
If you take inflation into account, VC games are actually cheaper than they were six years ago.How are they overcharging for Wii U VC games? They will cost the SAME as on Wii.Hence Overcharging.
Ah the myths of inflation. That doesn't apply to digital content.
[size=78%]That's like getting mad because you bought a game on release day and a year later, a Game of the Year Edition comes out for the same price.[/size]
[size=78%]They could have forced everyone to rebuy everything at full price. [/size]
[size=78%]That's like getting mad because you bought a game on release day and a year later, a Game of the Year Edition comes out for the same price.[/size]
Lol, not quite the same. Some of these are 30 year old games. I'm not sure I'm paying to get anything in advance or enhanced.Quote[size=78%]They could have forced everyone to rebuy everything at full price. [/size]
They can't force me to buy anything. Which is why there's no point in quoting your whole response or trying to respond to anything. As I said, they certainly don't owe me anything so no point yelling at me like I'm a teen asking for a free lunch everyday. It's all about value in when a consumer is spending their money and the value here falls short to me.
I used to be a heavy user (40+ VC games in the first 2 years of the VC) and then I realized that Nintendo hadn't released a comprehensive plan about being able to keep the games over time. You can talk about backwards compatibility being a perk, but digital changes the game. Steam goes out of your way to make you feel like you own the game and they are doing you a favor by keeping it on their servers so it'll always be there. Nintendo makes me feel like I'm renting it and they'll charge me more to keep using it if they feel like it.
I haven't purchased a VC game in about 5 years because I don't like their approach. If you do, good for you spend away. Since I stopped purchasing VC games, I've picked up a Genesis, N64, NES, and Dreamcast and most of the games that I've ever wanted to play. I'm happy with my own VC plan.
Valve has said that if Steam ever shut down, they'd send out a final patch to remove the online validation.
Lol, not quite the same.The principle is the same. A GOTY Edition includes content that someone who bought the original release would have to pay for separately. If you want the extras of the Wii U Virtual Console releases, you're going to have to pay for them. You want the prices for Wii U Virtual Console games to be adjusted to what you would have to pay if you upgraded. Well, that's not how that works. I understand what you want, but I disagree with it.
They can't force me to buy anything. Which is why there's no point in quoting your whole response or trying to respond to anything.Sigh. You nitpicked one line then took it completely out of context. Nintendo didn't have to offer the upgraded version to Wii owners. In fact, Nintendo didn't have to offer the system transfer at all. To clarify my comment you quoted, Nintendo could have forced every Wii Virtual Console customer to have to rebuy all of those games at full price if they wanted those games on their Wii U. Happy?
was offline mode disabled or something?I just checked. Its still there and still works. Don't know why everyone thinks with Steam you have to have an Internet connection. While I am sure some games require it Steam in general does not.
I haven't played a Steam game in a loooong while....
A GOTY Edition includes content that someone who bought the original release would have to pay for separately. If you want the extras of the Wii U Virtual Console releases, you're going to have to pay for them. You want the prices for Wii U Virtual Console games to be adjusted to what you would have to pay if you upgraded. Well, that's not how that works.I know what a game of the year edition is. To my knowledge there is no additional content to these "editions" if you want to call them that. Additional content would include levels, characters, new res'd backgrounds etc. Let's just spell out what is new.
Sigh. You nitpicked one line then took it completely out of context. Nintendo didn't have to offer the upgraded version to Wii owners. In fact, Nintendo didn't have to offer the system transfer at all.See, I don't think I'm taking you out of context at all. Your first post came off like I should thank my lucky stars that Nintendo is giving me options. Well if I believe this is so poorly implemented that I don't intend to use it, why would I care that the option is available at all?
What I don't understand is that you say that Nintendo doesn't owe you anything, but you're still complaining about value.
I know what a game of the year edition is. To my knowledge there is no additional content to these "editions" if you want to call them that. Additional content would include levels, characters, new res'd backgrounds etc.A Game of the Year Edition typically includes most if not all of the DLC that was released for the game. That's a lot of additional content. So... no, it doesn't sound like you know what a Game of the Year edition is at all.
Sincerely, if you think there is enough value and want to upgrade go ahead.As previously stated in this topic, I've never purchased any Virtual Console games. I'm only buying Super Metroid in May because it's 30 cents.
Your first post came off like I should thank my lucky stars that Nintendo is giving me options.Not my intention. I was pointing out that it's silly to expect Nintendo to charge new Virtual Console customers the upgrade fee. However, you don't think you should have to pay the upgrade fee because Nintendo had to do the work anyway to bring the Virtual Console games to Wii U. Therefore, for anyone who wants the Wii U Virtual Console games, either nobody should pay the upgrade fee or everyone should. Am I getting that right? I think I am.
I think what smallsharkbigbite was trying to say is that there is no additional content to the VC games themselves, with the "editions" he referred to being the VC games. So they're not similar to GOTY editions because they don't have additional game content, just additional system features. It's basically like paying for backwards compatibility, like if Wii Mode cost money to activate.I know what a game of the year edition is. To my knowledge there is no additional content to these "editions" if you want to call them that. Additional content would include levels, characters, new res'd backgrounds etc.A Game of the Year Edition typically includes most if not all of the DLC that was released for the game. That's a lot of additional content. So... no, it doesn't sound like you know what a Game of the Year edition is at all.
