Nintendo World Report Forums

Community Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: BranDonk Kong on August 28, 2012, 09:18:44 AM

Title: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 28, 2012, 09:18:44 AM
Check this **** out! (http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/27/13510167-bizarre-poodle-moth-fascinates-and-frightens-the-masses-online?lite)
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 28, 2012, 09:37:02 AM
I don't believe its real, and here is why: If someone could get close enough and have enough time to get such an amazing shot of it then they would have also had ample time to capture it as well.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 28, 2012, 12:24:26 PM
Indrid Cold lives
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 28, 2012, 12:33:48 PM
Indrid Cold lives

(http://images.wikia.com/characters/images/0/08/Indrid_Cold.jpg)


You Rang?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Caliban on August 28, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
It's a moth.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Oblivion on August 28, 2012, 01:36:09 PM
I don't believe its real, and here is why: If someone could get close enough and have enough time to get such an amazing shot of it then they would have also had ample time to capture it as well.


Nope. Ever seen pictures of wasps and ****? They don't capture those.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 28, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
I don't believe its real, and here is why: If someone could get close enough and have enough time to get such an amazing shot of it then they would have also had ample time to capture it as well.


Nope. Ever seen pictures of wasps and ****? They don't capture those.

I think you're missing my point. People don't capture wasps because they don't need to. They are common...  Something like this looks like it came from the imagination of Jim Henson while on LSD. If you were close enough to something this bizarre why wouldn't you capture it so you could prove it was real? You would have both fame and mucho dinero.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Oblivion on August 28, 2012, 03:04:14 PM
Is that the only picture they took? I figured they'd take more than one. Or maybe a video.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Ian Sane on August 28, 2012, 03:10:01 PM
If I saw something weird and I had a camera, I would probably take a picture first if I could.  Catching a flying insect is hard and if it flew away I'd have nothing, not even a picture.  I would go for the picture first and then maybe try to catch it.  Maybe that's what happened.

I would be less likely to buy this if it was some well-known cryptid like Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster.  In those cases people are trying to find footage and have any obvious incentive to fake something for publicity.  This looks more like "holy ****!  Look at that weird bug!"
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 28, 2012, 03:32:23 PM
Speaking of Bigfoot, people often complain about how the pictures are always blurry, out of focus, poor quality, etc. But there are some really good Bigfoot pictures out there.

Like this, for example.

(http://ryanjboyd.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/myakka_ape2_closeup3.jpg)

This was taken in florida, and its not out of focus or distant. You can see its an ape or something ape like. It could be hoax, but if it is a hoax a good deal of effort went into it. Its not your run of the mill bigfoot photo... you can actually see its face.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Ian Sane on August 28, 2012, 05:04:59 PM
Regarding Bigfoot, the Patterson-Gimlin film is a really clear shot of either a walking ape or some guy in an ape costume.  But that isn't some "squint and maybe it looks like something" shot.  It's clear as day.  The debate is entirely if the film was staged and faked but the footage is really good.

The Loch Ness Monster however is pretty much been proven as a complete hoax.  The whole thing started based on a photo that was later proven to be faked.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 28, 2012, 05:08:29 PM
Sea Serpent!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/shyguy70/sea-serpent.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Louieturkey on August 28, 2012, 05:42:06 PM
I don't believe its real, and here is why: If someone could get close enough and have enough time to get such an amazing shot of it then they would have also had ample time to capture it as well.


Nope. Ever seen pictures of wasps and ****? They don't capture those.

I think you're missing my point. People don't capture wasps because they don't need to. They are common...  Something like this looks like it came from the imagination of Jim Henson while on LSD. If you were close enough to something this bizarre why wouldn't you capture it so you could prove it was real? You would have both fame and mucho dinero.
You realize there are camera lenses that can take that good of pictures from far away right?  20 feet away can be an amazing shot and if the cameraman is good enough, they can get a shot like that.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 28, 2012, 06:22:07 PM
Regarding Bigfoot, the Patterson-Gimlin film is a really clear shot of either a walking ape or some guy in an ape costume.  But that isn't some "squint and maybe it looks like something" shot.  It's clear as day.  The debate is entirely if the film was staged and faked but the footage is really good.

The interesting thing about the Patterson-Gimlin film was it was filmed back in the late 1960s which was exactly the same period of time that the Planet of the Apes films were made. If you've ever watched the planet of the apes movies, you can see how horrible the costumes are, but this was state of the art for hollywood special effects at the time. So if the Patterson film was a hoax, it is a very impressive one because it is far superior to what even hollywood could pull off in those days.

The Loch Ness Monster however is pretty much been proven as a complete hoax.  The whole thing started based on a photo that was later proven to be faked.

I agree. There is 99.9% certainty that the Loch Ness monster doesn't exist, because the whole entirety of the Loch has been methodically swept over with Sonar trying to find it. If there was anything as large as Nessie supposedly is, those sonar sweeps would have found it for sure.

Another issue is that Loch Ness is almost completely devoid of fish, so what would an animal that large eat? There isn't much food there. The waters are also very cold, which a reptile such as a plesiosaur wouldn't be able to survive in.

However, some have argued that Nessie is an apparition or something like that instead of a living animal. I guess if that's the case it would explain why the sonar wouldn't have detected it. Its definitely not a living plesiosaur, but it might be the lingering ghost of one that had lived millions of years ago and just never "passed over" for whatever reason.

Aside from that, its probably just a combination of hoaxes and known animals like seals and fish and so on.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Ian Sane on August 28, 2012, 06:38:03 PM
Regarding Bigfoot, the Patterson-Gimlin film is a really clear shot of either a walking ape or some guy in an ape costume.  But that isn't some "squint and maybe it looks like something" shot.  It's clear as day.  The debate is entirely if the film was staged and faked but the footage is really good.

The interesting thing about the Patterson-Gimlin film was it was filmed back in the late 1960s which was exactly the same period of time that the Planet of the Apes films were made. If you've ever watched the planet of the apes movies, you can see how horrible the costumes are, but this was state of the art for hollywood special effects at the time. So if the Patterson film was a hoax, it is a very impressive one because it is far superior to what even hollywood could pull off in those days.

The complexity of any costume needed to pull off that footage, combined with the existence of multiple apeman myths in a different cultures (ie: Yeti), is enough to make me very open-minded to the possibility of Bigfoot's existence.  Something like a plesiosaur ghost is a little too fantastic for me to even consider it, but why couldn't there be an undiscovered primate out there that walks on its hind legs?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Stogi on August 28, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
Because we would have kill it.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 28, 2012, 07:08:16 PM
The complexity of any costume needed to pull off that footage, combined with the existence of multiple apeman myths in a different cultures (ie: Yeti), is enough to make me very open-minded to the possibility of Bigfoot's existence.  Something like a plesiosaur ghost is a little too fantastic for me to even consider it, but why couldn't there be an undiscovered primate out there that walks on its hind legs?

A really good reason to believe in the possibility of Bigfoot is that a creature exactly like Bigfoot is known to have existed in China about 100,000 years ago. It was called Gigatopithecus and it walked on two legs and it was about 10ft tall. We know such a creature existed because we've uncovered the bones of it in caves, and the Chinese have been finding and grinding up those bones for thousands of years and using them as folk medicine.

So even if Bigfoot doesn't exist today, we can at least say something EXACTLY like it did exist at one time because we have the bones that prove it. And even though these bones were found way over in China, why couldn't such a creature have crossed over the Bering land bridge during the ice age just like the native americans did? I think its very plausible.

Even if Bigfoot is extinct today it might have survived long enough to have become part of the native American legends about Sasquatch. There has to be a reason why the Native Americans have these legends. There are no known apes of any kind indigenous to the western hemisphere, so why would Native Americans know to make apes on their totem poles and describe them in their legends? You can only describe something if you've actually seen it.

And as for the Yeti in particular, the Himalayas where it is reported to be located is right about exactly where Gigantopithecus once lived. The ancient Chinese probably wiped it out in China proper, but in the remoteness of the Himalayas a few of them might have survived, and might still survive to this day. Why doubt it? We have the Gigantopithecus bones, so we know something more or less identical to a Yeti lived at one time in roughly the same area where the sightings are being reported today.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 28, 2012, 07:31:50 PM
But native americans came over about 40,000 years after Gigatopithecus became extinct. I don't believe that anything like bigfoot exists today and won't believe until there is credible evidence.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 28, 2012, 07:40:04 PM
But native americans came over about 40,000 years after Gigatopithecus became extinct.

Assuming it did become extinct. So far we haven't discovered any Gigantopithecus bones younger than about 100,000 years ago, but that doesn't mean that's when it became extinct. That's just the newest bones we've discovered. As I said, the Chinese have been grinding them up and using them in folk medicine for thousands of years (they believe they are dragon bones), so we don't really have a lot of bone specimens to go by.

TJ, there is a fish called the Coelacanth that people thought had become extinct millions of years ago, but then in the 1930s someone discovered it being sold in a fish market in Africa. So it goes to show that things we think became extinct a long time ago might really not be extinct after all. This might be the case with Gigantopithecus.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 28, 2012, 07:45:52 PM
But there is a difference between a fish that live mostly in caves; and a 10 foot tall, 1200 pound ape. I get your point though.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: tendoboy1984 on August 28, 2012, 09:31:10 PM
The complexity of any costume needed to pull off that footage, combined with the existence of multiple apeman myths in a different cultures (ie: Yeti), is enough to make me very open-minded to the possibility of Bigfoot's existence.  Something like a plesiosaur ghost is a little too fantastic for me to even consider it, but why couldn't there be an undiscovered primate out there that walks on its hind legs?

A really good reason to believe in the possibility of Bigfoot is that a creature exactly like Bigfoot is known to have existed in China about 100,000 years ago. It was called Gigatopithecus and it walked on two legs and it was about 10ft tall. We know such a creature existed because we've uncovered the bones of it in caves, and the Chinese have been finding and grinding up those bones for thousands of years and using them as folk medicine.

So even if Bigfoot doesn't exist today, we can at least say something EXACTLY like it did exist at one time because we have the bones that prove it. And even though these bones were found way over in China, why couldn't such a creature have crossed over the Bering land bridge during the ice age just like the native americans did? I think its very plausible.

Even if Bigfoot is extinct today it might have survived long enough to have become part of the native American legends about Sasquatch. There has to be a reason why the Native Americans have these legends. There are no known apes of any kind indigenous to the western hemisphere, so why would Native Americans know to make apes on their totem poles and describe them in their legends? You can only describe something if you've actually seen it.

And as for the Yeti in particular, the Himalayas where it is reported to be located is right about exactly where Gigantopithecus once lived. The ancient Chinese probably wiped it out in China proper, but in the remoteness of the Himalayas a few of them might have survived, and might still survive to this day. Why doubt it? We have the Gigantopithecus bones, so we know something more or less identical to a Yeti lived at one time in roughly the same area where the sightings are being reported today.


Finding bones in a cave doesn't prove it was an ape-creature. Bones don't show fur, skin, muscle tone, etc.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Caterkiller on August 29, 2012, 02:44:44 AM
Pretty sure that moth is real. It looks awesome!
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: ThePerm on August 29, 2012, 05:19:43 AM
I figured out years ago that Trolls were probably the description for Neanderthals. They are pretty much the same thing, except I think trolls got bigger over time thanks to myths.

Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 29, 2012, 07:02:37 AM
Finding bones in a cave doesn't prove it was an ape-creature. Bones don't show fur, skin, muscle tone, etc.

Are you sure you weren't really born in 2004? Someone who was born in 1984 (or even 1994) should have more sense than this.

Bones do show muscle tone, as well as a hell of a lot more than you think. Plus have you ever heard of DNA? No, they don't show fur and skin, but we don't need that to know it was an ape. Do we need fur/skin to know that the dinosaurs were reptiles, or are you going to doubt that too? If EVERY credible scientist is in consensus that something is so then there is no reason for you to doubt it. Even if you don't fully understand the methods they used to come to that conclusion you should just accept it. If they don't know what they're talking about, then who the hell does?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: tendoboy1984 on August 29, 2012, 01:37:50 PM
What science thought was fact centuries ago isn't essentially true today. The earth has been proven to be round, we are not the center of the universe, there may be life on other planets, the universe is infinite, etc. New discoveries are made all the time, and science is constantly changing because of this.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Caterkiller on August 29, 2012, 01:52:46 PM
This thread needs just a little bit of...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b61x8Gpwg1E/TeovNqsMOeI/AAAAAAAAAJU/TITCkZ53hGY/s1600/Giorgio.jpg)

So uh... Who watches ancient aliens?!
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 29, 2012, 02:26:11 PM
What science thought was fact centuries ago isn't essentially true today.

There was no science centuries ago. You had no choice but to believe what the Church taught you, or else you were branded a heretic and perhaps even killed.

The earth has been proven to be round, we are not the center of the universe,

We know this thanks to science, which replaced superstitions. These established understandings are now known and aren't going to change anytime soon. Just like how we know those bones belonged to a giant ape and not to dragons as the Chinese once believed. Science is the reason we know this giant ape once existed, and this fact isn't changeable.

the universe is infinite, etc.

The universe is not infinite. It is very vast, but it has a finite size which we are able to measure.

New discoveries are made all the time, and science is constantly changing because of this.

Theories change, but science itself remains the same. The fact that those bones belonged to a giant ape isn't a theory, though. Its fact.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 29, 2012, 02:28:16 PM
This thread needs just a little bit of...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b61x8Gpwg1E/TeovNqsMOeI/AAAAAAAAAJU/TITCkZ53hGY/s1600/Giorgio.jpg)

So uh... Who watches ancient aliens?!

I haven't seen it in awhile, but I have watched it. Some of what they say I think deserves consideration, but they also make some claims which I think are pretty absurd. Do you watch it, Caterkiller?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2012, 02:34:20 PM

There was no science centuries ago. You had no choice but to believe what the Church taught you, or else you were branded a heretic and perhaps even killed.


Not true. We had science, but it was secretive. ANd I'm sure I don't need to remind you of the days before the Dark Ages?
Quote
but it has a finite size which we are able to measure.
I agree about it being finite, but we've yet to accurately measure it in terms of distance. We have theories and educated guesses, however.

Quote
Theories change, but science itself remains the same.
What you just said means that science changes. Science is made up of conjectures, theories, absolute fact. If something changes, then science changes.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 29, 2012, 02:56:24 PM
Not true. We had science, but it was secretive. ANd I'm sure I don't need to remind you of the days before the Dark Ages?

No, but Tendoboy said "centuries ago" not "millennia ago".

What you just said means that science changes. Science is made up of conjectures, theories, absolute fact. If something changes, then science changes.

I'm talking about the scientific method. Our understanding of things can change, but the way science conducts itself in pursuit of this knowledge isn't going to change. Someone could use other methods, but if they do they are no longer practicing science.

Anyway, we're getting off topic. You do agree Gigantopithecus was a giant ape that existed 100,000 years ago, right Oblivion? Tendoboy is trying to say we can't believe what scientists tell us about bones.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2012, 04:05:14 PM
I wasn't even in that conversation. I wasn't paying attention to that. And if you're harping me for getting off topic, maybe we should start talking about that moth again, eh?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 29, 2012, 04:23:04 PM
Yeah, I guess we're way off topic even with Bigfoot... but Bigfoot is kinda like the moth though, because its a weird creature which may or may not exist.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Caterkiller on August 29, 2012, 07:17:26 PM
Oh I love ancient aliens! I don't subscribe to every theory but good god does it make me think. I'm one of the people convinced alien tech was used to build the pyramids.

Did anyone hear about the glass like pyramid found in the ocean? The bremudia triangle to be exact?! Blew my mind!
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: tendoboy1984 on August 29, 2012, 07:25:28 PM

Did anyone hear about the glass like pyramid found in the ocean? The bremudia triangle to be exact?! Blew my mind!

Wait what? When was this discovered?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 29, 2012, 07:40:26 PM
It's only been reported by sketch websites and blogs, no reliable news or scientific website. It's not even confirmed to be real.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 30, 2012, 01:49:49 AM
I knew someone who saw Bigfoot.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Stogi on August 30, 2012, 05:07:29 AM
Oh I love ancient aliens! I don't subscribe to every theory but good god does it make me think. I'm one of the people convinced alien tech was used to build the pyramids.

Seeing how my ancestors became the Egyptians I find that theory offensive.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 30, 2012, 06:40:31 AM
Oh I love ancient aliens! I don't subscribe to every theory but good god does it make me think. I'm one of the people convinced alien tech was used to build the pyramids.

Seeing how my ancestors became the Egyptians I find that theory offensive.


According to the ancient Sumerians there was these aliens called the Anunaki who came down and created mankind by mixing their alien DNA with that of apes and that's how we came to be. According to the Sumerians the Anunaki needed Gold, so they used us as slave labor to mine it, then when the gold was depleted they left.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: tendoboy1984 on August 30, 2012, 06:06:19 PM
Oh I love ancient aliens! I don't subscribe to every theory but good god does it make me think. I'm one of the people convinced alien tech was used to build the pyramids.

Seeing how my ancestors became the Egyptians I find that theory offensive.


According to the ancient Sumerians there was these aliens called the Anunaki who came down and created mankind by mixing their alien DNA with that of apes and that's how we came to be. According to the Sumerians the Anunaki needed Gold, so they used us as slave labor to mine it, then when the gold was depleted they left.


But there is still plenty of gold around, so it hasn't depleted.


Also, if the universe is finite, then what lies beyond it? The universe is everything that exists, it can't be finite because that would mean there is something beyond it, but the universe encompasses the totality of everything. It's a circular argument.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 30, 2012, 07:21:01 PM
But there is still plenty of gold around,

Not really. Why do you think its so valuable? And by "depleted" I think that meant the gold that was easily obtainable. There's still a good amount deep in the earth, but its not exactly easy to get to (even with advanced ancient alien technology). Basically, it either got to the point where it was no longer worth the effort, or the Ancient Aliens had managed to get all the gold they needed and decided to move on.


Also, if the universe is finite, then what lies beyond it? The universe is everything that exists, it can't be finite because that would mean there is something beyond it, but the universe encompasses the totality of everything. It's a circular argument.

There is a possibility there are other universes.

But even if our universe contains the "totality of everything" it still isn't infinite. There is only a finite number of stars, planets, etc. in the universe. Whatever it is its a really huge number, but its not infinite. We know the universe is expanding, and has been expanding continually since the Big Bang. The fact we know its expanding should prove to you that its finite, because if it were truly infinite it would be of infinite size and wouldn't be capable of expanding like it is.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 30, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
Apparently if you took all of the gold ever produced in history (meaning for the last few thousand years), it would only fill up 1/3rd of the Washington Monument. Platinum is even rarer than gold.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 30, 2012, 08:11:48 PM
Those Incas pulled a ton of gold out of the Andes. Lets fly down and find it. They left some sort of echo audio puzzle as a clue.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 30, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
Speaking of the Andes, did anyone see that episode of Ancient Aliens where they talked about the Nazca lines and how there is a mountain where the whole summit of it was cleanly shaved off to make it flat like an aircraft runway? I thought that was pretty interesting. You could just say it was the natives who flattened the mountain like that, but why would they? It doesn't seem like it would be an easy thing to do just for no reason. If it was to make a runway for spaceships to take off and land, then that would be a reason.

And those Nazca drawing things. You can only see them from the air looking down. So they were obviously intended to be seen by someone who was capable of flight.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: tendoboy1984 on August 31, 2012, 12:34:32 AM
But there is still plenty of gold around,

Not really. Why do you think its so valuable? And by "depleted" I think that meant the gold that was easily obtainable. There's still a good amount deep in the earth, but its not exactly easy to get to (even with advanced ancient alien technology). Basically, it either got to the point where it was no longer worth the effort, or the Ancient Aliens had managed to get all the gold they needed and decided to move on.


Also, if the universe is finite, then what lies beyond it? The universe is everything that exists, it can't be finite because that would mean there is something beyond it, but the universe encompasses the totality of everything. It's a circular argument.

There is a possibility there are other universes.

But even if our universe contains the "totality of everything" it still isn't infinite. There is only a finite number of stars, planets, etc. in the universe. Whatever it is its a really huge number, but its not infinite. We know the universe is expanding, and has been expanding continually since the Big Bang. The fact we know its expanding should prove to you that its finite, because if it were truly infinite it would be of infinite size and wouldn't be capable of expanding like it is.

But that's logically impossible. If the universe is expanding, then that means everything within the universe would be expanding as well.
 
And I know there are a finite number of galaxies and planets, but everything else is just blackness. You mean to tell me that that black space will eventually stop, like hitting a wall?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 31, 2012, 12:39:11 AM
The current theory is that space doesn't have an edge, it loops back on itself. So if you were somehow able to get to the barrier of known space, you would simply wind up back in the same space (like driving in a circle).
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Caterkiller on August 31, 2012, 01:58:34 AM
The current theory is that space doesn't have an edge, it loops back on itself. So if you were somehow able to get to the barrier of known space, you would simply wind up back in the same space (like driving in a circle).

Like Pac Man or the auto U turn in star fox 64?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Oblivion on August 31, 2012, 03:28:01 AM
Pac Man.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 31, 2012, 07:27:43 AM
But that's logically impossible.

You are logically impossible.
 
And I know there are a finite number of galaxies and planets, but everything else is just blackness. You mean to tell me that that black space will eventually stop, like hitting a wall?

In addition to what TJ said, the universe is expanding at the speed of light so in order to reach the edge of it you would have to travel FASTER than the speed of light, which is impossible.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Oblivion on September 02, 2012, 12:16:05 AM
If the universe is expanding, then that means everything within the universe would be expanding as well.


Wrong. The distance between objects in space is growing. The objects don't actually get bigger with the universe.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: ThePerm on September 02, 2012, 01:41:15 AM
wouldn't the flux in the gravitational force cause them to distort in size?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 02, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
Even if objects did expand with the growth of the universe, their growth would be equally relative to everything else so it wouldn't even mean anything.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Oblivion on September 02, 2012, 12:40:51 PM
Even if objects did expand with the growth of the universe, their growth would be equally relative to everything else so it wouldn't even mean anything.


Very true. We could be getting larger and not actually know it.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: ThePerm on September 02, 2012, 08:57:00 PM
Fair enough. Do you think that would effect my perception on time, or do you think its merely a psychological phenomenon related to data recalibration?
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Caterkiller on September 04, 2012, 01:06:10 PM
So what's up with 2012?

I think we are going to be ushered into a new golden age starting with the Wii U only a month in advance.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 04, 2012, 01:49:41 PM
So what's up with 2012?

I think we are going to be ushered into a new golden age starting with the Wii U only a month in advance.

What I hope happens on December 21st:

Extraterrestrials will come down to Earth and invite humanity into joining their United Federation of Planets (or whatever) and there will be peace and a new Golden age, and we and our new Alien friends can play Mario Kart together on the Wii U.

What I fear might happen instead:

1) Same as above, except the Aliens end up being a colonizing or conquesting force, and they steal the Wii U's and send them back to their homeworld leaving us with nothing.

2) Someone somewhere in the world detonates a nuke, and WW3 ensues leaving no one (or almost no one) left alive to play the new Wii U. Even for the few who might survive, the world will be plunged into the darkness of a nuclear winter. There will be no electricity with which to play the Wii U (if any of them managed to survive the nuclear blasts). Nintendo as a company would probably cease to exist.
Title: Re: Holy fucking ****! Mothman Prophecies 2012!
Post by: tendoboy1984 on September 05, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
So what's up with 2012?

I think we are going to be ushered into a new golden age starting with the Wii U only a month in advance.

What I hope happens on December 21st:

Extraterrestrials will come down to Earth and invite humanity into joining their United Federation of Planets (or whatever) and there will be peace and a new Golden age, and we and our new Alien friends can play Mario Kart together on the Wii U.

What I fear might happen instead:

1) Same as above, except the Aliens end up being a colonizing or conquesting force, and they steal the Wii U's and send them back to their homeworld leaving us with nothing.

2) Someone somewhere in the world detonates a nuke, and WW3 ensues leaving no one (or almost no one) left alive to play the new Wii U. Even for the few who might survive, the world will be plunged into the darkness of a nuclear winter. There will be no electricity with which to play the Wii U (if any of them managed to survive the nuclear blasts). Nintendo as a company would probably cease to exist.


Scenario 3:


A global group of terrorists hijack some trucks of Wii U shipments. They insert a chip that causes each console to detonate at exactly 12:12 PM on December 12, 2012 (12/12/2012). The resulting explosion will be so great, that the entire planet is destroyed on impact.


The End?