Post by: Grey Ninja on May 23, 2003, 01:15:51 PM
First of all, I would like to congratulate PGC for snagging the interview, especially since IGN reported in their latest Mailbag that they were unable to get an interview with Denis... (*snicker*)
Second, I would like to thank Denis for taking the time to give his opinions and insight into the state of video games. It was a very interesting read (as always), and was very enjoyable to read.
Basically, I am just saying thank you to Rick, Jonny, and Denis for taking the time to tell us these things. It was a great interview.
Post by: PIAC on May 23, 2003, 02:37:30 PM
but yeah great great interveiw
Denis should stop being so lazy and post on these forums 
leave metal gear and too human and stuff and come post here, now THATS whats really important
Post by: Bloodworth on May 23, 2003, 02:48:01 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 23, 2003, 02:50:52 PM
that gives me a crazy idea, one day you should have some fans host trivia and have you PGCers compete, unless you have allready done that? i wouldn't know, never been to a trivia night
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Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 23, 2003, 09:15:28 PM
Anyway, the game sounds cool, but I'm not that interested in replaying MGS for $50 - the first one was good, although a bit
overrated...
*a few spoilers if you haven't played MGS*
I can't see how Denis thinks the game has THAT great of a story, with its long and not terribly subtle speeches on whatever theme it happens to be pursuing, combined with the bizarre comic-bookish villains like Psycho Mantis and that crazy tank guy, Crow or whatever his name was "Snakes don't belong in Alaska!", plus the rather tired evil twin thing. Still, Grey Fox was pretty cool, and the torture thing was an interesting idea (I recall someone saying something like "Ocelot, not again!" when you die... ha!)
*end spoilers*
Personally, I'd be much more interested in a remake of the original Metal Gear. It's a major chapter of the story that needs to be expanded on.
BTW, did anyone notice how the PGC'ers kept on referring to FMV's in MGS? I thought MGS used all real-time cut scenes.
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Post by: aoi tsuki on May 24, 2003, 12:32:18 AM
i'm not horribly excited about an MGS remake since i have and have beaten MGS, however, i'll buy it upon release.
Why use the GBA as a codec? The codec in MGS worked well enough; having to look away from the screen to check the location of enemies is counterproductive to the codec feature. i am interested in the possibility of using the GBA in a co-op mode like in Zelda, or better yet, the possibility of a Cube link mode, whether it's co-op or not.
i'm rather disappointed to hear that the VR missions disc won't make the cut. Granted, Denis didn't come out and say it, but it's likely they'll be tweaking Twin Snakes up until production, which eliminates any chance of VR Missions. On the other hand, it's not a huge loss; VR Missions can be had for ten bucks or less.
Post by: Tael on May 24, 2003, 04:55:00 AM
QuoteThe codec is the radio communications, not the radar system.
Originally posted by: aoi tsuki
Why use the GBA as a codec? The codec in MGS worked well enough; having to look away from the screen to check the location of enemies is counterproductive to the codec feature.
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Post by: Paratroopa on May 24, 2003, 08:41:15 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldShadow1
I can't see how Denis thinks the game has THAT great of a story with its long and not terribly subtle speeches on whatever theme it happens to be pursuing...
That surprised me quite a bit too. Imho MGS had great gameplay and the thriller/suspense elements of the story were executed extremely well, but the way it tackled the more serious themes (mainly nuclear weapons and genetic engineering) was very cheesy and even embarassing at some points. It was more like "The Danger of Nuclear Weapons for Grade Schoolers" but definitely not mature storytelling at these points in the game. So hearing such boundless praise from the director of two games which really pushed mature storytelling in games forward (Blood Omen, Eternal Darkness) left me a bit puzzled.
Post by: aoi tsuki on May 24, 2003, 08:48:47 AM
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The codec is the radio communications, not the radar system.
My apologies, it was 5:30a at the time. In any case, i simply don't like having to look at my GBA screen when i'm playing a game on a tv. It just separates me from the game too much.
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::EDIT:: Nevermind- turns out I skipped it even when I was checking out the site. That's ol' unattentive me for ya.
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 24, 2003, 11:47:35 AM
Who can EVER forget the scene where Sniper Wolf dies? Or the scene where Meryl was shot down right in front of you? Or the fantastic boss battles? The story might have been cliched and done, but it was presented in a fresh new way.
I find that it's just great to see all the stuff happening, and to bury yourself in the details. There are some seriously good scenes in the game, and even if the overall story might have been lacking, the subtleties in it all make it very worth playing.
Post by: Nephilim on May 24, 2003, 12:26:10 PM
I personally didnt buy the RE remake, but im sure to pick this remake up
I just hope they do put a multiplayer mode in, something to annoy the sony fanboys
If I remember correctly, didnt the PC version have a lan multiplayer mode? anyway everything is cool
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 24, 2003, 12:44:21 PM
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If I remember correctly, didnt the PC version have a lan multiplayer mode? anyway everything is cool
Nay. I own the PC version. It includes some cleaner graphics from the PSX version, and it is the full Metal Gear Solid: Integral package (includes VR Missions), but in gameplay it's identical to the PSX version. (But you can use quicksaves rather than call Mei Ling all the time)
Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 24, 2003, 12:47:14 PM
This is what I was thinking of - the voices coming from the TV. Sorry for the confusion. This would be cool, though, as it would allow you to listen to the codec while playing the game. That was one feature I wanted - it'd be cool to have the Codec giving you tips while you're actually trying to fight a boss, as opposed to pausing in the middle of it. It would get annoying at times, though, like if you got caught somewhere right in the middle of a painful confession or something over the codec. As for the radar... well, come to think of it, it would be a bit annoying, as someone else said, but it would add a bit of realism anyway.
"Just a word on the story... yes, it wasn't anything deep, but I found that the sum of the pieces was far greater than the whole. It was in the details and the moments in the game that it truly shone.
Who can EVER forget the scene where Sniper Wolf dies? Or the scene where Meryl was shot down right in front of you? Or the fantastic boss battles? The story might have been cliched and done, but it was presented in a fresh new way.
I find that it's just great to see all the stuff happening, and to bury yourself in the details. There are some seriously good scenes in the game, and even if the overall story might have been lacking, the subtleties in it all make it very worth playing. "
Grey Ninja, you make a good point. The game did have some very memorable scenes in it, and the cinematics were killer.
But, you know, now that I think about it, this conversation should probably go to the general MGS remake discussion, as it doesn't have much to do with the interview itself...
Post by: ruby_onix on May 24, 2003, 06:09:41 PM
I'd sure like to the it work though.
Plug in the GBA. Set it to "GBA Codec Mode" on the options menu.
Then when your GBA beeps you press one of the buttons on it to answer, and you keep running around and trying to hide and kill guards and not get caught while the 2D face of whoever you're supposed to be talking to appears on the GBA screen, and starts yacking your ears off through the GBA's tinny speakers about how much they miss you and wish you would come home soon, while you start prattling on through the TV speakers about how it feels now that you've killed human beings. Oh wait, that's Raiden, not Snake. Wrong game. Sorry.
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 24, 2003, 06:13:06 PM
Post by: aoi tsuki on May 24, 2003, 08:40:25 PM
The only good (and logical) use of the GBA would be to have a codec where you can only talk to Mei Ling. If i could download that to my GBA and disconnect it, well...
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 25, 2003, 05:15:56 AM
as for GBA connectivity, im sure that everyone already thought of this but i think that you should be able to access a security room and then link the GBA up and download a map and remote access to security cameras, so you can view the hallways before entering them and see the map for the entire section of that particular area... but of course i dont think the GBA could handle any of that with the measley RAM it has
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 25, 2003, 05:17:52 AM
I found it funny how Miyamoto and Iwata just basically asked Denis Dyack if he wanted to do MGS.
Post by: Paratroopa on May 25, 2003, 07:06:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
"Just a word on the story... yes, it wasn't anything deep, but I found that the sum of the pieces was far greater than the whole. It was in the details and the moments in the game that it truly shone.
Who can EVER forget the scene where Sniper Wolf dies?
Well, I thought that this scene was extremely clicheed and cheesy. I didn't like those scenes because the designers usually resorted to "sledgehammer methods" to get their point across: Otacons date of birth, Sniper Wolfs traumatic childhood etc. It was all presented in such an obvious way and without the slightest hint of subtlety it just didn't work for me anymore.
That doesn't mean that I don't like it when game designers try to tackle complex themes in their games (I'm a big fan of Silicon Knights because they do this since Blood Omen - and fairly well too imho). It's just that "doing it" and "doing it right" are two completely different pair of shoes.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 25, 2003, 06:48:27 PM
Then te GBA is great for this. I mean, if YOU had the Codec then you really WOULD have to look to down at it.
Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 25, 2003, 06:49:35 PM
Post by: JP on May 26, 2003, 05:54:54 AM
Mark my words, barring circumstances out of control, the name Dyack will go down in history next to names like Miyamoto, Kojima, and Naka. Dennis is so intelligent and I love the games he plays with us, like the reference to the flash in MGS vs Eternal Darkness those many months ago. Nintendo has done well incorporating a developer with such a sense of responsibility to the video game industry. Their ability to think long-term is one of many reasons why I will always be a Nintendo fanatic.
Great job on the interview, PGC!
Post by: cubist on May 26, 2003, 06:34:05 AM
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Post by: Grey Ninja on May 26, 2003, 12:50:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin
I'm assuming the Codec is something that Snake carries around, like some portabale radar or something?
Then te GBA is great for this. I mean, if YOU had the Codec then you really WOULD have to look to down at it.
If you haven't played the game, then you wouldn't know how it is... It would be ok for the Soliton Radar (ala Splinter Cell), but the codec scenes feature GREAT voice acting, and the GBA's speaker wouldn't do it justice. Other than that, I wouldn't have a problem having it on the GBA. Perhaps the audio can be done on the GameCube though, and the pictures on the GBA. Since they are keeping the sprites on the codec scenes rather than moving to 3D, that would be reasonable.
Post by: egman on May 27, 2003, 05:40:47 AM
Yeah, Nintendo didn't have "teh Halo KilLA" or something to counter the PSP, but that means little in the long run. The prospects of more collaborations between Konami and Nintendo already has me excited. I also think Sony has one hell of a hill to climb to top the Game Boy, especially since they just gave Nintendo nearly two years of lead time to prepare a PSP killer. But this is only the start. In the next couple of years Nintendo is going to look very different, and those who have counted Nintendo out or are counting down the days until they go 3rd party will be rudely surprised. If these is one good thing that has come out of a this 3 horse contest, it's the fact that Nintendo seems to have been awaken from their slumber. With Iwata at the helm, I think they are ready to fight.
Another thing I found heartening about this interview is how Dennis spelled out his and Nintendo's focus on great gameplay. At a time when hype is subverting substance, it warms the heart to know that SK and Nintendo are looking to improve gameplay even more. I wish we had more SKs in this industry, because right now we are in desperate need of people like Dennis.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 27, 2003, 05:00:32 PM
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because right now we are in desperate need of people like Dennis.
We are in desperate need of people who will bother to take notice in Dennis' games.
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 27, 2003, 06:14:57 PM
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because right now we are in desperate need of people like Dennis.
We are in desperate need of people who will bother to take notice in Dennis' games.
Yes to both of you.
But it's Denis, not Dennis.
Post by: RickPowers on May 27, 2003, 08:05:04 PM
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Well that settles it, Nintendo should now put in Stereo Speakers.
Except that you can't get any stereo separation with two speakers placed that close together. There's no point in spending the money on the hardware when it won't have any appreciable change.
Post by: egman on May 27, 2003, 08:09:13 PM
Post by: almondblight on May 28, 2003, 05:12:08 AM
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because right now we are in desperate need of people like Dennis.
We are in desperate need of people who will bother to take notice in Dennis' games.
Maybe if Nintendo actually advertises them for a change...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 28, 2003, 11:28:00 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666Quote
because right now we are in desperate need of people like Dennis.
We are in desperate need of people who will bother to take notice in Dennis' games.
Maybe if Nintendo actually advertises them for a change...
That too. Nintendo baka!
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