Best not to vote. It doesn't actually change anything... all it gets you is the hassle of dodging jury duty.
I've voted every time since 2000 and I've never once been requested to do jury duty.
And as far as not changing anything goes, maybe you are right... but do you think not voting is going to change anything? At least if you've voted you can at least say you tried whether it did anything or not.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 02, 2012, 06:34:00 PM
Voting or not voting has ZERO impact on getting selected for jury duty. It's random. And if you don't vote, you should not complain about who represents you in government.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 02, 2012, 09:56:04 PM
Actually registering to vote makes you available for jury duty, if you aren't already.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 02, 2012, 09:59:27 PM
What's the big deal about jury duty anyway? Its not like you're being drafted to fight in Vietnam. Why do people fear it so much? I think the fear of jury duty is grossly disproportionate to what it actually is.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Sarail on July 02, 2012, 10:41:32 PM
For me, it's because my job won't cover the pay that's lost because I have to go sit in on something that I'm sure homeless people or unemployed folks would be better suited for - ya know.. since they have the time and all to do something such as that. Plus, they'd get a crappy monetary check in the mail for doing so!
But seriously, I've been called in for jury duty once in my entire life, and it was a complete waste of time and a cut out of my pay I won't be able to get back. Nine days worth of pay that I lost ... and that can hurt a person when you've got lots of bills and student loans to pay. :/
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: nickmitch on July 02, 2012, 10:41:44 PM
Is talking about the pains of jury duty considered politics? Could be the first time a derailing saves a thread.
Side note: jury duty sucks, but try being called in as an expert witness on a complex accounting issue and have to explain to a crowd who maybe got through high school. If I had a nickel for every time my professor complained about doing that, I'd have enough for a Coke.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 02, 2012, 11:13:11 PM
Plus, they'd get a crappy monetary check in the mail for doing so!
I would like to see the homeless people be able to do something useful and get some money that they need, but how could they get a check in the mail if they don't have an address? And how would they even be called for jury duty anyway?
Furthermore, some (not all) homeless people might be mentally ill and/or drug addicts so do we really want them on a jury deciding someone's fate?
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: bustin98 on July 03, 2012, 12:09:01 AM
I've been voting since 1991 and haven't had a jury duty notice.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 03, 2012, 10:05:49 AM
Actually registering to vote makes you available for jury duty, if you aren't already.
So does having a license, as they also use the DMV to get names. So just having a drivers license will make it possible to get selected for jury duty.
Not in every state, but registering to vote makes you eligible if you've managed to stay offthe radar.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 03, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
Another thing Oblivion will have to do is register for the draft. Unlike voting this is required by law so its something you have to do (if you're a male). They can probably call you up for Jury Duty through that as well.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Oblivion on July 05, 2012, 02:05:50 AM
Ugh, don't remind me. I don't want to sign up for it but since I'd get arrested or something if I don't... *shrug*
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 05, 2012, 09:44:24 AM
Since the draft will never come back, there is no worry about signing up at least.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Adrock on July 05, 2012, 09:57:03 AM
Since the draft will never come back, there is no worry about signing up at least.
If the U.S. were to go to war with China the military would need more manpower than what voluntary recruiting could provide, so a draft would be needed.
The good thing about the draft thing is it expires when you turn 25, so as long as WW3 doesn't start within the next 7 years Oblivion should be fine.
On the other hand, if World War 3 really did break out, it would probably adversely effect EVERYONE regardless of their draft eligibility.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Oblivion on July 05, 2012, 08:14:23 PM
I didn't know it expired at a certain age. I thought you were pretty much in it for life. And would they even take someone so short that most women are taller than him? I seriously doubt I could ever fight in a war with the physical prowess I have at this point in my life.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: nickmitch on July 05, 2012, 09:13:52 PM
Since the draft will never come back, there is no worry about signing up at least.
If the U.S. were to go to war with China the military would need more manpower than what voluntary recruiting could provide, so a draft would be needed.
The good thing about the draft thing is it expires when you turn 25, so as long as WW3 doesn't start within the next 7 years Oblivion should be fine.
On the other hand, if World War 3 really did break out, it would probably adversely effect EVERYONE regardless of their draft eligibility.
I didn't know it expired at a certain age. I thought you were pretty much in it for life. And would they even take someone so short that most women are taller than him? I seriously doubt I could ever fight in a war with the physical prowess I have at this point in my life.
You know who else was too small to be drafted? Captain America.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Oblivion on July 05, 2012, 09:22:39 PM
I doubt I'll ever get experimented on by a German scientist. xD
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 05, 2012, 10:07:20 PM
You will.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 05, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
I didn't know it expired at a certain age. I thought you were pretty much in it for life.
Nope. Just from the ages of 18-25, and it only applies to males... which is really sexist if you think about it.
There are ways you can get out of it if it ever does happen, though. For example the rock musician and gun nut Ted Nugent got out of being drafted to fight in Vietnam by crapping his pants.
And would they even take someone so short that most women are taller than him? I seriously doubt I could ever fight in a war with the physical prowess I have at this point in my life.
I'm not sure how much height matters in that. As long as you are able to carry an M16 you probably strong enough as far as the army is concerned. I read that in the Vietnam war really short guys were preferred because they were small enough to go into the Viet Cong tunnels and hunt them down where taller guys couldn't fit.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: Oblivion on July 05, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
I'd have to carry more than just a gun, but I get your point.
Title: Re: Happy Birthday Oblivion!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 06, 2012, 12:06:39 AM
And these days you can't even pretend to be gay to get out of going like Chevy Chase did in Vietnam.
