Post by: Jonnyboy117 on May 21, 2003, 09:23:01 AM
In a Los Angeles Times article supplied by Reuters, Nintendo Co. Ltd. president Satoru Iwata has offered a bit of insight into Nintendo's online plans.
The article focuses on whether consumers are willing to pay for online features, and how much they are willing to pay. Of course, this has been a major issue for Nintendo all along, as their main concern is how consumers will pay for and how Nintendo can profit from online games.
"I don't think its reasonable to make someone pay for a game and then make them prepare a network connection and charge a monthly fee," Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo, told Reuters recently.
Meanwhile, Nintendo's Iwata said his company was working on a service that would not require users to cough up regular fees for games.
"In the near future we are hoping to announce something that addresses this issue," he told Reuters.
Be sure to click the link above to read the full article.
Thanks for Bryan McGovern for the tip!
Post by: SatansNemesis on May 21, 2003, 09:53:27 AM
How viable could that be?
Post by: sycomonkey on May 21, 2003, 10:30:14 AM
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Post by: RickPowers on May 21, 2003, 11:04:11 AM
GameSpy TUNNEL is for games that have LAN play, but not Internet. Tunnel uses your PC to act like a console, passing the network packets through the internet.
The tools GameSpy is making for Nintendo's games have NOTHING to do with "tunnelling". It's going to be full-on internet play, no PC needed. Saying that the "tunnel" will be included on the disc is not at all accurate, since no tunnelling would be necessary at all.
Post by: VideoGamerX on May 21, 2003, 11:40:14 AM
From what Gamespy's representative said, it definitely sounds like these games will have online capabilities if you just hook the internet up to it and use that as your network connection by selecting LAN from inside of the game.
That's greatif that's exactly what it is.
Post by: Djunknown on May 21, 2003, 03:05:59 PM
How Much?
Or will it cost anything? And what will Nintendo do with its Online capabilites? The announcements of the future of XboX live make it sound like a media player (ability to get music, movies, contact players when they're offline). PS2 has seemed to make a compromise by making any games published by Sony (with some exceptions) and offering to pay a lump sum per year to play their titles online. (like 20 dollars a year or so).
Now here's the theory/fantasy: Nintendo and Gamespy give us seamless online play for no or little charge (comparable to XboX live minus bells and whistles, just gaming) and make both Microsoft and Sony look really stupid b/c they're asking for cash for "upkeep."
2nd question: How will they do it? Sounds kind of stupid since there PS2 has shown the way of online gaming w/o a hard drive (SOCOM for example, Midnight Club 2) yet something like FFXI will need one. Lastly, will this enthrall companies who were skeptical to put online play (at least for gamecube) a second look because Nintendo has ironed out the kinks of online play. Or will Nintendo and Gamespy track companies down and say "You want online play? Look at this... (shows demo of its capabilites.)
Its interesting how a few sentences can get the old noodle going.
Post by: EggyToast on May 21, 2003, 03:19:13 PM
It sounds like they're doing sony's approach, without centralized servers, and will let 3rd parties do what they want. But they're going a step up by offering online play for all lan-capable games without any extra fees.
At least, that's how I read it.
Post by: SteveWozniak on May 21, 2003, 03:43:01 PM
Post by: Bonzeemer on May 21, 2003, 04:08:33 PM
D..........Boo - Freakin - Ya.
Post by: The Doc on May 21, 2003, 04:50:53 PM
The Doc
Post by: BlkPaladin on May 21, 2003, 08:52:31 PM
Post by: nonjagged on May 21, 2003, 10:07:08 PM
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Originally posted by: PGC NewsBot
And it's not just the usual dismissal, either.
In a Los Angeles Times article supplied by Reuters, Nintendo Co. Ltd. president Satoru Iwata has offered a bit of insight into Nintendo's online plans.
The article focuses on whether consumers are willing to pay for online features, and how much they are willing to pay. Of course, this has been a major issue for Nintendo all along, as their main concern is how consumers will pay for and how Nintendo can profit from online games.
<small>"I don't think its reasonable to make someone pay for a game and then make them prepare a network connection and charge a monthly fee," Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo, told Reuters recently.
Meanwhile, Nintendo's Iwata said his company was working on a service that would not require users to cough up regular fees for games.
"In the near future we are hoping to announce something that addresses this issue," he told Reuters.</small>
Be sure to click the link above to read the full article.
Thanks for Bryan McGovern for the tip!
Excelent solid news to hear, isnt it.
Nintendo (I believe over a year ago) stated that their first party games like eg. Mario Golf, Tennis, Karts etc will be free when/if they have online compatible gaming, providing you purchase the software. Between that announcement and this latest announcement one can assume Nintendo has not just been chasing up some exclusive 3rd party support from EA, Konami, etc but Nintendo have also been continuing their research on gamer-friendly (new term in comparison to user-friendly) Online Networks that dont leech monthly fund$ off the gamer.
Rather than Nintendo become a multi-media leeching company with free multi-media DLable content but at a monthly subscription cost, Nintendo is sticking to being a gaming-only content platform, therefore any DLable content will be purely gaming-related and will be for free because unlike the competing platforms Nintendo 1st & 2nd party software is purchased full retail price, so going with a proprietory format for software, ensures that Nintendo makes the money from the software to be able to offer any newer DLable content for that particular software?
Also in my opinion (whether the research is ready or not) I think Nintendo is also waiting on Sony to get their hype in order and launch their Online Network globally, so then once both the competiting platforms have their service on offer, thats when Nintendo will drop their megaton bomb and give the real gamers the option of not being fixed to some dictatorship Online Plan, but rather something more flexible.
</end getting stuck into the competition for dissing Nintendo for being too slow to join Online gimmicks>
Anyone know whats happening with Toby (Tomb Raider's) Adventure game? Was it at E3?
Im still hanging for Pilot Wings on GCN and latest rumor is a Super FX enhanced chip for next GBA to combat the PSP.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 22, 2003, 01:28:11 AM
A simple IP input screen isn't going to be enough...of course the software would be handling the multiplayer screens...I just hope they don't screw up.
Or maybe I'm asking too much. Xbox Live has all you need, but then again you gotta pay 50 bucks...
Oh well, there is always PC gaming, which is free (cept for some MMORPG's) AND has more features than any of this online console crap.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 22, 2003, 05:26:03 AM
silks
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Post by: elementry watson on May 25, 2003, 09:34:35 AM
Also i would like some kind of front end like xbox live, as the though of typing in Ip addresses does not really appeal to me. they could also consider offering with the next generation console a music purchasing service like apple's service or the new napster.....not their own, but perhaps a deal with one of those companies to offer content, I see it as a plus on their feature list for GCN2.... Thats just the way i see it. strictly online gaming for 'free', with extra features for users who want it (through selling a low cost browser disc of some sort) but i digress...... I knew nintendo had to be up to something of this sort, they have been monkeying around with online scince x-band on the SNES & randnet on the N64... when they enter this arena they WILL bring it into the mainstream just like they did for console gaming w/ the NES.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 26, 2003, 09:20:27 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 26, 2003, 10:21:57 PM
they wish they were hackers
something tells me with consoles there will be less chance of idiots ruining it for people, less chance, not none, cause i doubt people will goto the extent of buying a console/game just for that fact, with pcs pirated games are so easy to get, and everyone has internet access pretty much these days, so BAMM! instant idiots, but with online consoles, nintendo speficicly (their fans seem to be more relaxed/happier (just my perception, i could be wrong)) less of this will go on i beliveanyone with xbawx live care to comment?
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Post by: the_zombie_luke on September 21, 2003, 04:47:51 PM
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Post by: the_zombie_luke on September 21, 2003, 10:50:22 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
You mean some kind of "shared machine"? The same thing emulators can do these days?
I mean Nintendo making special hardware or software so they could take normal offline multiplayer games online. I guess sort of like what emulators can do.
Post by: the_zombie_luke on September 21, 2003, 10:53:41 PM
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Originally posted by: PIAC
wouldn't it be smarter for nintendo to start online games, using a regular connection and let other people host servers? like how ISP's own their own CS/TFC/q3 etc servers, have some form of setup like that, make the hosting software freeware so people can DL it and set up their own servers, that makes sence to me..
That is a great idea. For Unreal Tournament or Quake 3 you only need an ISP and you can find servers. It would be extremely expensive for Nintendo to host free servers like Battle.net, but that would be good too.
Post by: the_zombie_luke on December 05, 2003, 04:20:40 PM
