Post by: kennyb27 on May 21, 2003, 09:16:23 AM
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10. The handle. Okay, so it's a little goofy, but imagine trying to take an Xbox with you to a friend's house or on a vacation. You would need an industrial crane and a parking permit.
9. It only plays games. That's right. Anyone who tells you that playing DVDs on a game console is a benefit has never had someone monopolize the machine for hours playing Meg Ryan movies while the rental game you have to return in three hours gathers dust.
8. It's more powerful than the PS2. PS2 has slower processors and its graphics are noticeably inferior to the GCN's. Sorry--there's nothing very funny about that.
7. Gone platinum. The Platinum GCN is a work of art, shiny and sophisticated. PS2 and Xbox look like every other piece of electronics hardware created in the past 20 years, and dust really shows up on those black casings.
6. Controller design. The PS2 controller has way too many buttons, and the Xbox controller was designed for a giant or an octopus. Ah, the GCN controller is elegant and practical--an extension of the human spirit; an epiphany in plastic; the ultimate interface between mind, body and technology.
5. Experience. Nintendo has consistently produced the highest quality video games for more than two decades dating back to Donkey Kong. You can bet that Nintendo will do so in the future. Twenty years ago, Sony was making Betamax tape machines and Microsoft hadn't even come up with Windows. What will they be doing tomorrow?
4. The incredible freedom of the WaveBird controller. You can even play from the bathroom. Let the freedom ring.
3. Game Boy Player. More than a hundred million people have Game Boys, and we suspect that most of them own a game or two. With the Game Boy Player, all those millions of deserving gamers will be able to play their games on Nintendo GameCube as well as on their Game Boy.
2. Connectivity. Sony and Microsoft can't do it because they don't have Game Boy. They have robotic dogs and word processors. Let's face it, they're not really game companies. But Nintendo does only games, which is why Nintendo innovates ways to play--linking consoles, swiping cards, visiting villages filled with animals and sailing the high seas in a talking boat.
1. Exclusivity. The GCN offers The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil Zero, Super Mario Sunshine, Eternal Darkness, Animal Crossing, Star Fox Adventures, Final Fantasy: Crsytal Chronicales, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Mario Kart, Metroid 2, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike, Pikmin II, Resident Evil 4 and Soul Calibur II as Link. (That's 15 exclusive reasons GCN reigns supreme.) Try naming 15 exclusive hit PS2 titles. As for Xbox, you can count the number of exclusive hit titles on one finger.
I'll be honest, while reading those, I was cracking up laughing. I think it's about time Nintendo took some hits at the competition. Now all they need to do is put this list on TV
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 21, 2003, 10:28:14 AM
Seriously if I was Nintendo I would run a series of ten TV ads that each feature one of these reasons that Gamecube is better. It's agressive, it makes the Cube look superior (often with factual statements) and it's edgy and has attitude.
Post by: PIAC on May 21, 2003, 10:28:25 AM
ill bet i know which finger nintendo power is using to count said game too
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nitpick: yes you can play Metroid 2 on gamecube via the GBP, but they are obviously talking about metroid prime two,or metroid 5 (if its a follow on from fusion)
Post by: joshnickerson on May 21, 2003, 10:58:11 AM
Of course, I wouldn't want Nintendo to get down on the same level as Sony and Microsoft and bash the competition... wait... didn't Microsoft bash Kirby in one of their promo booklets...
.... NO MERCY! MICRO$OFT MUST PAY!!!
But does anyboy else remember, back in the SNES Vs. Genesis days, long before Sonic hooked up on the Cube, Nintendo releasing a pamplet that included a list of both machine's stats, pointing out how the SNES was superior in every way?... we need another one of those...
Post by: AdvancedGamer on May 21, 2003, 11:00:51 AM
>insert best pimp-slap noise here< What the Fu-k... Were Nintendo Mother-Fucka!!!!!! UHHHHH!!!! what you gonna do now b-hotch???!!!!!
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 21, 2003, 11:47:33 AM
Nintendo's reasons are a lot better, but I still don't like them using the same tactics.
Post by: aoi tsuki on May 21, 2003, 12:07:09 PM
i'm glad that for the most part these are actual benefits, unlike Microsoft's "ten reasons" lists, although half of them are a little weak. i'd rather Nintendo not resort to this type of marketing, but they've not resorted to it this far and...
Post by: MysticGohan on May 21, 2003, 12:38:04 PM
Nintendo seems to state actual facts. Nintendo should market that with Gamecube and show it's strengths compared to the other two.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 21, 2003, 12:38:48 PM
silks
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 21, 2003, 12:48:14 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 21, 2003, 12:54:35 PM
By the way, in the border art, the first letter picturing Mario in a helmet throwing a shell at a Piranha Flower was drawn by a real good friend of mine (I watched him draw in and gave a little advice on how to draw Mario). He's listed as David Barkett from Kansas in the magazine, but his actual name is David Bartlett- odd that NP misspelled his name.
Post by: Zeth on May 21, 2003, 01:21:29 PM
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10. The handle. Okay, so it's a little goofy, but imagine trying to take an Xbox with you to a friend's house or on a vacation. You would need an industrial crane and a parking permit.
ROTFL ROTFL, THE HANDLE MAKES IT SO GREAT. GOGO SUPER HANDLE. Yeah, and the ps2 is SO HARD TO CARRY AROUND PLZ HELP ME. ROTFL @ THE XBOX JOKE ROTFL ROTFL
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9. It only plays games. That's right. Anyone who tells you that playing DVDs on a game console is a benefit has never had someone monopolize the machine for hours playing Meg Ryan movies while the rental game you have to return in three hours gathers dust.
ROTFL EXTRA FUNCTIONALITY SUX ROTFLROTFL PSX'S CD PLAYER RUINED IT WASNT A GAME SYSTEM ROTFLLLLL LOOK AT PS2
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8. It's more powerful than the PS2. PS2 has slower processors and its graphics are noticeably inferior to the GCN's. Sorry--there's nothing very funny about that.
YEAH AND N64 WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PSX AND LOOK WHAT DID BETTER ROTFL ROTFL
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7. Gone platinum. The Platinum GCN is a work of art, shiny and sophisticated. PS2 and Xbox look like every other piece of electronics hardware created in the past 20 years, and dust really shows up on those black casings.
Ok...Nintendo's right. the platinum color makes GCN's goofy design so much cooler than the PS2 and Xbox.
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6. Controller design. The PS2 controller has way too many buttons, and the Xbox controller was designed for a giant or an octopus. Ah, the GCN controller is elegant and practical--an extension of the human spirit; an epiphany in plastic; the ultimate interface between mind, body and technology.
ROTFL THE PS2 CONTROLLER HAS TOO MANY BUTTONS ROTFLROTFL NINTENDO URE RIGHT. ROTFL ROTFL THE XBOX CONTROLLER IS SO BIG ROTFL.
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5. Experience. Nintendo has consistently produced the highest quality video games for more than two decades dating back to Donkey Kong. You can bet that Nintendo will do so in the future. Twenty years ago, Sony was making Betamax tape machines and Microsoft hadn't even come up with Windows. What will they be doing tomorrow?
Making PS3s, PSPs and XBox 2s ^^ ROTFL NINTENDO WILL BE AROUND 4EVER WE JUST KNO IT BC THEYRE NINTENDO BEEN AORUND FOR HUNDRED YEARS +
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4. The incredible freedom of the WaveBird controller. You can even play from the bathroom. Let the freedom ring.
NO WIRES OMFG SONY AND MCIROSOFT LOSE
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3. Game Boy Player. More than a hundred million people have Game Boys, and we suspect that most of them own a game or two. With the Game Boy Player, all those millions of deserving gamers will be able to play their games on Nintendo GameCube as well as on their Game Boy.
I actually have to agree that the Game Boy Player is neat.
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2. Connectivity. Sony and Microsoft can't do it because they don't have Game Boy. They have robotic dogs and word processors. Let's face it, they're not really game companies. But Nintendo does only games, which is why Nintendo innovates ways to play--linking consoles, swiping cards, visiting villages filled with animals and sailing the high seas in a talking boat.
ROTFL ROTFL NITNENDO U RULE UR GONNA BE MAKING CONNECTIVITY MINI GAMES LIKE TETRA'S TRACKERS AND FOUR SWORDS FOR GAMECUBE WHILE EVERYONE ELSE WILLB E MAKING REAL GAMES GO NINTENDO ^^
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1. Exclusivity. The GCN offers The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil Zero, Super Mario Sunshine, Eternal Darkness, Animal Crossing, Star Fox Adventures, Final Fantasy: Crsytal Chronicales, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Mario Kart, Metroid 2, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike, Pikmin II, Resident Evil 4 and Soul Calibur II as Link. (That's 15 exclusive reasons GCN reigns supreme.) Try naming 15 exclusive hit PS2 titles. As for Xbox, you can count the number of exclusive hit titles on one finger.
ROTFL ROTFL I READ THIS MAGAZINE ONLY AND ONLY KNOW NINTENDO EXISTS SO HOW COULD I NAME EXCLUSIVES ON PS2 ROTLF
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 21, 2003, 01:25:06 PM
He actually thought NP was being serious and that it wasn't a joke. You've got to have a pretty thick head to not catch that right off the bat.
Post by: Zeth on May 21, 2003, 01:26:00 PM
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Post by: AERO on May 21, 2003, 01:48:02 PM
Post by: The Omen on May 21, 2003, 02:08:53 PM
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I think actually zeth doesn't look as stupid as the people above who thought that nintendo "made some good points". If they were joking, they weren't as blunt as he was.
I think there are some good points, but i certainly wouldn't waste 10 ft. of posting space with inane chatter that nobody gives a crap about. Just throw your opinion out there, why make a novel out of it.? I think you should read it again, AERO, because it is even worse the second time...and more embarrassing.
Post by: Masterpiccolo on May 21, 2003, 02:37:10 PM
Post by: NintendoKiD on May 21, 2003, 02:41:49 PM
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10. The handle. Okay, so it's a little goofy, but imagine trying to take an Xbox with you to a friend's house or on a vacation. You would need an industrial crane and a parking permit.
That was hilarious, and true hah....hey that little handle on GC is cool, when I take it places I hold it by the handle all the time.
Post by: Fammy2000 on May 23, 2003, 11:39:43 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 23, 2003, 11:43:38 AM
Post by: Uglydot on May 23, 2003, 12:15:35 PM
Ooo, a scroll bar, pretty....
It was a fun little article that made light of a few points that people have said, that is all. No one is better or worse. The length of his post really doesn't matter, because you have a scroll bar.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 23, 2003, 01:04:03 PM
Post by: Vanilla Thunder on May 23, 2003, 01:04:25 PM
Quite frankly, for Nintendo to say that NOT having DVD playback is a plus is for them to shot themselves in the foot. To say that the competition have no good exclusives is just plain stupid, seeing how the industry's hottest franchises are dominant on Sony's system (the Grand Theft Autos, the main Metal Gear Solids, the main Final Fantasies, ect). Can't quite say the same of X-Box, though, they really DO have only one killer exclusive --- Halo. The whole color point is stupid, since platinum isn't what everyone has; in fact, most people to my knowledge have the "dust-collecting" black or the often-called-gay purple (and I DON'T think the purple is stupid, in fact, I own it). Zeth's point of the technically inferior PSX beating the sh*t out of the more powerful N64 is EXCELLENT, and Nintendo, seeing how they want to launch their next system first this time, will probably have the weaker hardware anyways. The list is just... crap. It's a more-or-less effective sales point for the uninformed gamer, it's a "whoopidy do!" for the mindless fanboy, and for the more knowledgable people like those here, it's simply... amusing. Good ol' Nintendo.
The GB Player point is VERY good, though.
Just some simple thoughts. I'm not bashing Nintendo. I'm just giving an honest opinion of how I saw the list. Trust me, I'm less cynical then most of you people ^_^. I actually like the Four Swords, I never had an issue with Wind Waker's cel-shaded look, and I knew Metroid Prime would be grand in FP view. So don't think I'm cynical.
EDIT: For clarity.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 23, 2003, 02:18:23 PM
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Try naming 15 exclusive hit PS2 titles.
Can do Mr. Magazine!
Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XI, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Sky Oddessy, Resident Evil Online, Contra: SS, Tenchu 3, Tekken 4, Guilty Gear XX, Dark Cloud 2, Breath of Fire: DQ, Kingdom Hearts, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 3
Do I win anything?
, j/kSome of those points were hilarious and true, and some were just dumb. Yeah, downplay the black cased consoles why don't you? Did they forget that alot of people out there bought the Jet GameCube? Uh-oh, it blends in and you can see the dust on it! Eegads!
How good would it be if Nintendo themselves released all these points in a TV advert or something?
It's pretty pointless having them in a Nintendo only mag.
Post by: kennyb27 on May 23, 2003, 02:37:36 PM
The comment about the N-Sider chat seems reasonable, until you realize the age of the majority of people there. Around 12. They play Nintendo because they like the games and most of them have no idea about other systems. The few times I have gone the moderators have done a commendable job taking care of the various system-bashers.
Also, you may say that the "cockiness" of Nintendo is nothing compared to what Microsoft and Sony have done. They have come out in various commercials making it clear that they will do anything to further the idea of GameCube as a "kiddy" console (I still hold my position that this list is a joke, but this is in response to your statement).
I will say outright that between my group of friends, we own all three consoles and play them quite often. I say this because I believe the DVD playback is not a necessity. I view my GameCube as a game machine, it doesn't do anything else or need to do anything else for that matter. Sure DVD playback is nice, but in 2005 when the next consoles come out (or even 2006), DVD players will be even more common if not standard in every household, so to say they are shooting themself in the foot is ridiculous.
Ok, your point about the exclusives for Playstation is taken, but what other games do they have besides the 2 (or is it 3?) GTAs, the 2 Metal Gears, and the 3 Final Fantasies. Nintendo has more bigger names, it's that simple. Oh, and Halo isn't an Xbox exclusive, so I don't even know what one they are counting.
The color point. Nintendo is a business, if Sony were to release a blue PS2 tomorrow, don't expect to see the black version in their commercials anymore, they would market what is new and cooler; that is all Nintendo is doing, don't take it the wrong way.
The point about PS's sale superiority to N64 is taken, but that is not the point. The list is of reasons why it is better, not why the sales are less. Oh, and Nintendo wants to launch their next system alongside the competition, not a year before like PS2 was.
QuoteIt's not crap, it did everything it was supposed to do. It gave the young fanboys reasons to go yell across the schoolyard at their friends, and it amused the older crowd. You're correct: Good ol' Nintendo
The list is just... crap. It's a more-or-less effective sales point for the uninformed gamer, it's a "whoopidy do!" for the mindless fanboy, and for the more knowledgable people like those here, it's simply... amusing. Good ol' Nintendo.
Post by: The Caucasian Cubist on May 23, 2003, 02:50:55 PM
The article was great, and I gotta go with the people who say It's about time!
Post by: KrazyJ1098 on May 23, 2003, 03:15:01 PM
Post by: The Doc on May 23, 2003, 09:13:54 PM
The Doc
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 24, 2003, 06:23:41 AM
Post by: ShockingAlberto on May 24, 2003, 07:11:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Infernal MonkeyQuote
Try naming 15 exclusive hit PS2 titles.
Can do Mr. Magazine!
Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XI, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Sky Oddessy, Resident Evil Online, Contra: SS, Tenchu 3, Tekken 4, Guilty Gear XX, Dark Cloud 2, Breath of Fire: DQ, Kingdom Hearts, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 3
Do I win anything?
A couple of points real quick. I am pretty sure Nintendo meant series, making some of those non-exclusive. Also, FFXI isn't confirmed to be exclusive yet. A PC port is more than likely.
I love how everyone can complain that Nintendo needs to change their business practices while deriding "sinking down to Microsoft and Sony's level" (the fact that Microsoft's "level" would be listing Metroid Prime off as an XBox exclusive game on their website notwithstanding). The thing is, if Nintendo took this to TV, it probably would be considered better in the eyes of casual gamers.
..or we could go back to two guys on a couch rapping about Link, and I don't think anyone wants that.
-- ShockingAlberto
Post by: KirbySStar on May 24, 2003, 07:56:24 AM
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Post by: mariomeatball on May 24, 2003, 11:11:48 AM
Nintendo needs to make a commercial where they say that quote above in 30 seconds! and then just "think about it.... Nintendo" end of commercial.... man that'd be badass!
Post by: AERO on May 24, 2003, 12:26:02 PM
Post by: Gamefreak on May 24, 2003, 12:31:46 PM
One finger...heh, it's true!
Post by: kennyb27 on May 24, 2003, 02:45:24 PM
QuoteThe only reason I'm glad to see Nintendo doing this is because Sony and Microsoft have taken several (cheap) shots at Nintendo and their so called "kiddie strategy." You have to remember, your everyday average Joe gamer only hears the shots one company takes at another and that's usually the only thing they are interested in.
So its okay for nintendo to do this right?
Post by: Mario on May 24, 2003, 03:10:22 PM
"So playstation 2 can play old psx games? Well the Nintendo Gamecube can play gb games *footage of the old tetris on the tv screen*, gameboy colour games *show pokemon or super mario footage*, gba games *show golden sun, mario kart etc.*, sega genesis games *show sonic mega collection*, n64 games *show OOT and master quest (remember that casual gamers are very stupid and gullible
) * and what can playstation 2 play? old playstation games? pfffttt, wow *in sarcastic voice*."Nintendo really needs to adopt this kind of attitude if they want to be the leader of the industry.
Post by: Jedi Master Yoda on May 24, 2003, 05:00:42 PM
But who cares? This is great! Go Nintendo! They need to put an advertisment with this list on it in every big video game website, Electronic Gaming Monthly, TV, and the Official Xbox Magazine.
Post by: thesos21 on May 24, 2003, 05:16:54 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 24, 2003, 05:26:36 PM
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 24, 2003, 08:12:06 PM
i rather liked their ad campaign for the Aussie release of the N64. That was kick ass.
It was Aussie all the way - go Tim Furguson!
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on May 25, 2003, 08:14:57 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 25, 2003, 08:41:18 PM
haha yeah Tim Furguson was the best promoting mario kart, him in a evil kinevilesque jacket in a gokart
it was classic
