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Title: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: ShyGuy on June 10, 2012, 01:01:55 AM
Nintendo gave us plenty of extra goodies with the Wii and the DS, what is going to come packed in with the Wii U?
Some ideas:
HDMI Cable
SD Card
Wii U Game Pad Stand
Wii U Console vertical stand
Wii Motion Plus Remote
Wii U Controller Pro
Extra Stylus
Demo Disc
NintendoLand on internal storage or disc
Wii U Panorama on internal storage or disc
Face Raiders equivalent mini game
AR Cards
NFC Figurine or Trinket
Bird Demo on internal storage or disc
Title: Re: What's going to packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: UncleBob on June 10, 2012, 01:06:02 AM
I foresee there being a download code or something similar for a free game (of Nintendo's picking) to get people to connect their Wii online. It worked quite well for the 3DS. :D
HDMI cord would be a surprise to me.
I don't see them packing in the Pro Controller... though I'd trade off a packed-in Wii Remote for one any day.
In fact, I'd *love* to see Nintendo offer a mail-in program for folks to mail in their old Wii Remotes for a Wii Remote Plus.
I'm thinking Wii Remote + $10 gets you a Wii Remote Plus. Wii Remote + Motion Plus attachment gets you a free Wii Remote Plus.
Too much to ask, I'm sure.
Not that it matters much, I wouldn't send in my old Wii Remotes. Though it might be funny to send in my Wii TV remote and see what I get back. ;)
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 10, 2012, 01:06:25 AM
Instruction manual would be a safe bet. :P:
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 10, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
I doubt there will be an HDMI cable. No matter how dirt cheap they are these days, it's still cheaper to pack in composites like both Sony and Microsoft did this generation.
I've gone on the record (although it may have been on the livestream which was not technically recorded) that I'm convinced the thing will be $350, with Nintendo Land and a Wii Remote Plus packed in. A free download code's also a great call by UncleBob, as that would be incentive for people to connect to the internet and check out the eShop. One of the people at the Nintendo booth told me there will be a Wii U Gamepad charging cradle similar to the 3DS one, and I'd expect that to be there too.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Shorty McNostril on June 10, 2012, 01:41:28 AM
I would rather there be an option between a Wii Remote plus pack in or a Pro Controller. I have 4 Wiimotes. I don't need another one.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 10, 2012, 01:45:34 AM
I think that's part of the reason they'll do the Remote+. They'd just be throwing that in there to try and justify that price, plus the fact that some parts of Nintendo Land require it (Zelda, at least, wouldn't work with the Pro), and they'd be more likely to sell you a Pro in addition to that as opposed to yet another remote. They'd be banking on the fact that a lot of people already have all the remotes they need, but want the new Pro controller.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Tamazoid on June 10, 2012, 01:49:41 AM
Non Specific Action Figure will be a pack in.
I doubt there will be a vertical stand. I'm pretty sure Miyamoto said they are marketing it as a horizontal standing console so it differs to the Wii.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 10, 2012, 02:12:59 AM
Well, I have no idea what Nintendo will do, but since HD is supposed to be a major selling point of the system I think it would be wise for them to toss in a $5 HDMI cable to help get that ball rolling. If they only include a composite cable that will be what a lot of consumers will end up using by default, and they won't as much of a pronounced difference in the graphics from the Wii they already have. I think including an HDMI cable is essential, and as you said they are dirt cheap these days, so there is probably only trivial difference in cost between that and a composite cable.
The PS360 may not include HDMI cables, but bear in mind that they came out way back at a time when such things were very expensive and not well adopted as they are now. Times have changed and it now makes sense for this to be included. But I wouldn't be surprised if you are right and Nintendo doesn't include it, considering how backwards they can be about embracing current industry standards. I'm just saying this is what I think they should do, but not necessarily what is going to happen.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Adrock on June 10, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
It's safer to include the composite cable since its more pervasive. Including an HDMI cable would be nice I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 10, 2012, 02:21:49 AM
Another possibility is they could just include both.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Adrock on June 10, 2012, 02:23:53 AM
That's what I meant. They're definitely going to include composite cables. Including both is a possibility; just not a terribly likely one. I wouldn't hold my breath.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: nickmitch on June 10, 2012, 02:23:58 AM
HDMI cables are cheaper than that ($5). I think Nintendo will pleasantly surprise us with one. The Wii U is an HD system and only having a composite cable is going to cause casuals to miss that message. Component cables are nice and should be included (like how the 360 has on that's both).
I think Nintendo Land may be the free downloadable with a code, if it's not pre-intstalled. That bird demo and the panorama view might just be free in the eShop to download and enjoy, if not pre-installed themselves.
I don't think an SD card is neccessary with 8 Gigs of storage. WM+s are unnecessary, since most Wii U owners should already have a few. But, a charging dock is a must. Hopefully it'll be something that you can also prop up to use for video chat.
A charging dock is also a must.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 10, 2012, 02:29:53 AM
Well, I have no idea what Nintendo will do, but since HD is supposed to be a major selling point of the system I think it would be wise for them to toss in a $5 HDMI cable to help get that ball rolling. If they only include a composite cable that will be what a lot of consumers will end up using by default, and they won't as much of a pronounced difference in the graphics from the Wii they already have. I think including an HDMI cable is essential, and as you said they are dirt cheap these days, so there is probably only trivial difference in cost between that and a composite cable.
The PS360 may not include HDMI cables, but bear in mind that they came out way back at a time when such things were very expensive and not well adopted as they are now. Times have changed and it now makes sense for this to be included. But I wouldn't be surprised if you are right and Nintendo doesn't include it, considering how backwards they can be about embracing current industry standards. I'm just saying this is what I think they should do, but not necessarily what is going to happen.
HD was a major selling point of the PS3 and 360, probably more so than it is with the Wii U. They can't not include a composite cable, so they'd have to do both if they were going to throw an HDMI in there. The people who care that much about HD graphics will know that composite isn't good enough, unless they're also playing their other consoles with composites, in which case it doesn't matter.
Also, nickmitch, Nintendo Land as the free eShop game sounds good at first, but it's probably very large in terms of file size, and really should be in the box, whether pre-installed or on a disc. However, a lot of people, including myself, have suggested they expand Nintendo Land with DLC, and they could give the first game or two of it away with a download code in the box.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: nickmitch on June 10, 2012, 02:33:50 AM
That's true. I hadn't considered the file size at all. Something does have to be there to drive casuals to the eShop, and I think Nintendo Land DLC on day one doesn't send the right message and should really be handled in game (at least linked directly to the eShop page). Something has to make you turn on your Wii U and then immediately click on the eShop and start navigating through the menus.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on June 10, 2012, 03:06:54 AM
Broken promises and lies.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: ShyGuy on June 10, 2012, 04:17:19 AM
What if the included a little Mario Statue with a NFC chip in his base? Then when Skylanders comes out, the Wii U version has an exclusive Mario Skylander.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 10, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
I doubt there will be an HDMI cable. No matter how dirt cheap they are these days, it's still cheaper to pack in composites like both Sony and Microsoft did this generation.
I could see them doing a component cable. When I bought my Xbox 360, it came with a composite/component cable.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 10, 2012, 10:52:35 PM
I think you're forgeting one of Nintendo's favorite pack-ins in recent times: wrist straps! Two-of them!
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Eman55 on June 10, 2012, 11:11:33 PM
I don't know if they announced this already, but I think it would be great for the Gamepad screen to be able to display movie information and other information to use with Netflix and Hulu+
Also an NFC card or figure which contains one's Mii and other information such as gameplay records and levelled up characters to use in certain games and to be able to communicate and beam this information to a friend's Wii U.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 10, 2012, 11:43:35 PM
I don't know if they announced this already, but I think it would be great for the Gamepad screen to be able to display movie information and other information to use with Netflix and Hulu+
I actually think a spanish language site has confirmed that, at least for Netflix. And of course viewing Netflix movies on the GamePad.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: VariantX7 on June 11, 2012, 12:03:17 AM
I'm thinking they may have to have something packed in, even if its not Nintendoland. Nintendo is responsible for the expectation that if you buy a Nintendo console system, there's gonna be something for you to do out of the box. At the very least, some sort of software trial or pre-loaded demos.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Crimm on June 11, 2012, 10:44:04 PM
One hair from the head of Satoru Iwata*
*Hair may actually be from Mori Yoshihiro
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 11, 2012, 11:31:34 PM
What if the included a little Mario Statue with a NFC chip in his base? Then when Skylanders comes out, the Wii U version has an exclusive Mario Skylander.
What if they included a Mario statue which when combined with New Super Mario Bros U unlocked a NSMB style version of the first level of the original Super Mario Bros?
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 14, 2012, 04:33:07 PM
What if the included a little Mario Statue with a NFC chip in his base? Then when Skylanders comes out, the Wii U version has an exclusive Mario Skylander.
What if they included a Mario statue which when combined with New Super Mario Bros U unlocked a NSMB style version of the first level of the original Super Mario Bros?
Sold.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Ian Sane on June 14, 2012, 07:30:01 PM
I figure Nintendo will cheap out on the cables because that's how Nintendo rolls.
- A/V cables (possibly same exact one the Wii had) - System - Power Cord - Nintendo Land (not free, the price will be higher to accomodate it) - Gamepad - 1 Wii Remote Plus - 1 Nunchuk - Manuals and lots of warning messages everywhere
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 14, 2012, 08:11:40 PM
I don't get where everyone is thinking Nintendo will pack in a Wii Remote. They'll pack in the GamePad and be done with it. Wii Remotes are right there next to it on the shelf for $40, unless you already have all the Wii Remotes you need.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 14, 2012, 09:29:23 PM
I think they'll include a remote to try to justify the $350 price I'm convinced they're going with. They sell for $40, but I'm sure Nintendo's making a pretty nice profit on that at this point, and some of the games in Nintendo Land require one anyway.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 15, 2012, 04:12:29 AM
I think they'll include a remote to try to justify the $350 price I'm convinced they're going with. They sell for $40, but I'm sure Nintendo's making a pretty nice profit on that at this point, and some of the games in Nintendo Land require one anyway.
Is there a need to though? The Wii U's market will be almost entirely the same as those who already own a Wii. There will be very, very few people who buy a Wii U who don't already own a Wii to begin with, and as Kairon pointed out for these very few people the Wiimotes are available on shelves right next to the Wii U. There's no need to bundle it when so many people either already have it or can easily get it separately.
I think a slightly more reasonable alternative might be if the Nintendo Land game comes bundled with a wiimote just like Wii Play or Wii Sports Resort did. This is of course assuming Nintendo Land is sold as a separate retail game and not bundled with the console. But once again, there's so many wiimotes in circulation that bundling more really isn't necessary. I suppose it might be a good way for Nintendo to clear out any excess stock they might have... if they have a bunch of unsold wiimotes they need to get rid of? Sure, might as well toss them in. But I don't think they would want to manufacture more if its going to increase costs.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 15, 2012, 04:18:36 AM
I'm not arguing it's necessary, because you're right, it isn't. I'm merely arguing that it's what they're going to do
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Uncle_Optimus on June 15, 2012, 07:52:53 AM
I don't get where everyone is thinking Nintendo will pack in a Wii Remote. They'll pack in the GamePad and be done with it. Wii Remotes are right there next to it on the shelf for $40, unless you already have all the Wii Remotes you need.
I would like to see them pack in a remote because:
a) it increases the perceived value of the retail package with all the zany 'net sources seem to tab at around $300 (from a range of $250-350; note that based on financial projections Nintendo seems confident that each unit will be profitable out of the gate or soon after)
b) the cost to produce a remote, now in 2012, should be comfortably below $10
c) it drives home a major selling point and marketing message for the Wii U of in-person multiplayer, especially important if Nintendo Land indeed ends up as a pack-in
d) two controllers (different types, but still) could serve as another differentiator as its been ages since a console provided this. I can see it playing out positively in marketing as well.
e) it would further expand the options for enterprising developers and encourage them to pursue multiplayer options
f) it would show that the promise of motion control gaming was not just a red-herring gimmick and that Nintendo remains invested in these concepts (this one is the most sentimental on this list as I still believe the controls have some untapped potential)
Else, I see the rest of the packaging playing out close to what Ian Sane posited above...note that HDMI cables are really highly unlikely. Nintendo values their retail partnerships and those guys, every one of 'em, will be demanding that profit opportunity from such a popular peripheral. Helps to keep Nintys's costs down too, so they won't complain.
One thing no one has mentioned yet...why not New Super Mario Bros. 2 as a potential pack-in? If Nintendo is seriously worried about the Wii U's market reception (and given the general sentiment following E3 they just might be) their best play would be to turn to the man in the M hat. That dude carried their first console and carried its big brother the SNES :)
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 15, 2012, 07:56:32 AM
I'm not arguing it's necessary, because you're right, it isn't. I'm merely arguing that it's what they're going to do
That could be what they will do, but we don't know that for sure. We both agree its not necessary, and on top of that I'd rather whatever it costs them to bundle it would just get shaved off the MSRP and the savings passed on to consumers. So if the MSRP of the Wii U is let's say $349.99 and the Wiimote accounts for $10 of that, I'd rather they leave it out and then drop the MSRP to $339.99. See what I'm saying? Or instead of the Wiimote they could include something of equal value which would have greater utility, such as an SD card or HDMI cable or whatever.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Plugabugz on June 15, 2012, 08:24:06 AM
I really hope they pack in the console itself. I really could do with that.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 15, 2012, 09:07:36 AM
I'm not arguing it's necessary, because you're right, it isn't. I'm merely arguing that it's what they're going to do
That could be what they will do, but we don't know that for sure. We both agree its not necessary, and on top of that I'd rather whatever it costs them to bundle it would just get shaved off the MSRP and the savings passed on to consumers. So if the MSRP of the Wii U is let's say $349.99 and the Wiimote accounts for $10 of that, I'd rather they leave it out and then drop the MSRP to $339.99. See what I'm saying? Or instead of the Wiimote they could include something of equal value which would have greater utility, such as an SD card or HDMI cable or whatever.
Dropping the remote and shaving $10 off the MSRP doesn't make sense from Nintendo's perspective, though. The remote provides more perceived value than it actually costs Nintendo to put it in there. Charging $350 an packing in Nintendo Land and a remote could make them more money than selling the system for $300 and the others separately, which is why I think they'll do it.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 15, 2012, 09:31:06 AM
But keep in mind this is the same company who refused to license DVD playback for the Wii, even though that would have only cost them about $5 per unit for the licensing. If $5 was too much for DVD playback, even though that added value (or perceived value) to the console, then surely $10 for a remote that over 90% of Wii U buyers will already have must be too.
Come to think of it, wasn't the argument against including DVD playback in the Wii something along the lines of everyone having DVD players by now so it no longer mattered? I'm sure the real reason was the licensing fees, but this was what they told consumers to explain why they weren't including it. That same logic goes for the Wiimote, almost everyone who is buying the Wii U will already have at least one Wiimote, and in many cases people will already have 4 of them and won't need another one.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: UncleBob on June 15, 2012, 09:38:32 AM
If you only have four Wii remotes by now, you're doing it wrong. ;)
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: ShyGuy on June 15, 2012, 09:42:50 AM
What if they bundled a plain Wiimote and not a Wiimotion+? I would looooool
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: rlse9 on June 15, 2012, 09:56:42 AM
One thing no one has mentioned yet...why not New Super Mario Bros. 2 as a potential pack-in? If Nintendo is seriously worried about the Wii U's market reception (and given the general sentiment following E3 they just might be) their best play would be to turn to the man in the M hat. That dude carried their first console and carried its big brother the SNES :)
I think there's two reasons New Super Mario Bros U won't be packed in. First, they know it's a game that will sell millions and millions of copies as a separate release. Second, I think they'd want a pack in that really shows off the Gamepad in the way that Wii Sports showed off the possibilities of motion controls. Something like Nintendo Land seems like a better fit.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 15, 2012, 10:24:30 AM
I'm pretty sure Reggie accidentally (may have been Iwata) said that Nintendo Land will be a pack-in.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Ceric on June 15, 2012, 10:30:45 AM
In general I think Nintendoland as part of the system would be a great call for Nintendo. Allow them to do little events on it for game promotions. Expand the park with new attractions as things go along. It really would be a an interesting place. Especially adding in your friends Mii's as attendies and leaderboards with them.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 15, 2012, 10:37:27 AM
Eguchi hinted at it quite a bit at the developer roundtable.
But keep in mind this is the same company who refused to license DVD playback for the Wii, even though that would have only cost them about $5 per unit for the licensing. If $5 was too much for DVD playback, even though that added value (or perceived value) to the console, then surely $10 for a remote that over 90% of Wii U buyers will already have must be too.
Come to think of it, wasn't the argument against including DVD playback in the Wii something along the lines of everyone having DVD players by now so it no longer mattered? I'm sure the real reason was the licensing fees, but this was what they told consumers to explain why they weren't including it. That same logic goes for the Wiimote, almost everyone who is buying the Wii U will already have at least one Wiimote, and in many cases people will already have 4 of them and won't need another one.
I don't think DVD playback would have added much in the way of perceived value. Even in 2006, who didn't have more than enough devices capable of playing DVDs? And most people have remotes, but I'd argue far fewer have that many Motion+ capable remotes. I'd bet a lot of people have at least one, whether from Wii Sports Resort or Zelda, but even Nintendo Land uses two of them at times.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Uncle_Optimus on June 15, 2012, 11:18:01 AM
I'm pretty sure Reggie accidentally (may have been Iwata) said that Nintendo Land will be a pack-in.
From all the articles I have been perusing, I honestly don't remember any of the top brass saying something definitive like this. That said, in the West, I do expect a pack-in to boost their initial value proposition and I agree with rlse9 that NintendoLand is the more logical choice given how they messaged it at the show. About launch price, analysts like Pach (waits for booing and hissing to die down) have stated that their market research suggests launching above $300 would be a colossal mistake. Combined with their rhetoric about learning from the 3DS fiasco I expect them to go aggressive at $299 MAX (w/ pack-in) but I think they are strongly considering $250 again as well.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: lolmonade on June 15, 2012, 12:37:01 PM
In general I think Nintendoland as part of the system would be a great call for Nintendo. Allow them to do little events on it for game promotions. Expand the park with new attractions as things go along. It really would be a an interesting place. Especially adding in your friends Mii's as attendies and leaderboards with them.
I'm going along with the notion that Nintendoland will be packed-in. I also believe this will be Nintendo's first Wii U foray into free-to-play gaming, where the game will be free (pack-in Nintendoland), but there will be microtransactions available for people who want to have the "premium" experience.
I assume the package will contain the console, gamepad, Nintendoland, A/V cable, and power cord. I think Nintendo will go under the assumption that the majority of people buying Wii U will have purchased a Wii, therefore having plenty of Wii Remotes/Nunchucks. I don't think Nintendo will include an HDMI cable so the retailers can continue to talk people into buying $5 cords for $30-50.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Ian Sane on June 15, 2012, 05:39:32 PM
If Nintendo doesn't include a Wiimote Plus then how can they assume a Wii U owner has one? And remember this is the Remote PLUS we're talking about. Not every Wii owner has one of those. I assume Nintendo wants to assume that the player has Motion+ or we're sticking to some pretty archaic motion control. They didn't push Motion+ that much on the Wii. I had to get one with Skyward Sword. If they want it to be standard issue, where they can assume every Wii U owner has one, they need to include it.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 15, 2012, 06:59:44 PM
When's the last time Nintendo's packed in TWO controllers in a console at launch?
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Louieturkey on June 15, 2012, 07:27:45 PM
SNES
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 15, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
Wii. Wiimote and Nunchuck =(
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Sarail on June 15, 2012, 08:28:34 PM
Yup. I remember picking up the SuperNES "Super Set" one holiday, and grabbing Super Mario Kart, too. 2-player split-screen mayhem with my younger brother followed for months on end.
Man, those were the days. :)
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Mop it up on June 15, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
If the price is $300 then I'm thinking:
1 system 1 Game Pad 1 power AC adapter 1 A/V cable (possibly a combo component/composite cable) 1 SD card (if no internal flash)
If it is $350 then take those and add: 1 Nintendo Land disc 1 Wiimote +
I don't think there will be an HDMI cable since the HDMI port on the Wii U is standard issue, whereas the A/V port is specialised and only Nintendo's own cables are compatible. So they will include their own composite/component cable and anyone can go get a $5 HDMI cable if they don't already have one.
When's the last time Nintendo's packed in TWO controllers in a console at launch?
This has been answered, but I'll add that the last time a system had a two-controller bundle in general was the Nintendo 64. I don't recall there being any bundles for the GameCube and Wii that had two controllers, unless you count the Wiimote, Nunchuk, or Wii Wheel as a separate controller.
That said, I do think it would be a good idea to include a Wiimote + so that it can be a standard controller for the Wii U. At this point it can't cost much to manufacture this thing, so tossing it in shouldn't raise costs much at all.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 15, 2012, 08:49:39 PM
I googled it and found pics confirming that their launch package included Super Mario World and two controllers. http://www.giantbomb.com/snes/60-9/all-images/52-195087/system/51-1427017/
Here is another issue to ponder when considering if Nintendo would pack in a Wii Motion+... the GamePad does not require a sensor bar to operate but the Wii Remote does. Will Nintendo sell sensor bars separately since apparently all of their 1st-gen local multiplayer requires remote(s)? Or will they pack-in JUST the sensor bar but no remote?
Both of the above distribution options sounds unlikely to me. I think it makes the most sense to distribute the sensor bar with the cnsole as opposed to offering a retail sku or two. Thus, if the sensor bar makes the most sense to come packed-in, one remote that uses it also makes sense as a pack-in.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: rlse9 on June 15, 2012, 11:02:08 PM
This is probably less likely than an HDMI cable but how about they package in a wireless sensor bar? I've accidentally yanked the sensor bar down from the top of my TV more than once when doing something behind the TV and getting caught on that stupid wire. Probably not going to happen but it'd be nice.
I think it has to include a sensor bar and probably a remote, even though most people don't need them. It can't cost them that much more to add it relative to the increase in perceived value and though there are tons of remotes out there already, most are either regular remotes or regular remotes with wii motion plus added on, not the wii remote plus. And not including one would kind of seem like conceding that they expect not to sell them to anyone but people who bought Wiis.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: UncleBob on June 16, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
This has been answered, but I'll add that the last time a system had a two-controller bundle in general was the Nintendo 64. I don't recall there being any bundles for the GameCube and Wii that had two controllers, unless you count the Wiimote, Nunchuk, or Wii Wheel as a separate controller.
Slightly off subject, and I can confirm the single-controllers at launch thing, but to correct Mop it up here, the GameCube did actually have two different official bundles that included two controllers. (http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/04/54/96/94/0004549694157_500X500.jpg)(http://www.toystoreinc.com/catalog/marioparty7bundle.jpg) Might have been a few other assortments released overseas.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Sarail on June 16, 2012, 10:09:59 AM
Man, Nintendo's SuperNES packaging materials were sexy and slick back then.
I wish they'd go back to that style/mentality. So good.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 16, 2012, 10:30:53 AM
Wireless sensor bar would be nice, mine gets yanked and tangled on the TV mounting bracket all the time. I did have it super glued to my old TV though...maybe I should do that again.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Mop it up on June 16, 2012, 06:54:35 PM
Man, Nintendo's SuperNES packaging materials were sexy and slick back then.
I wish they'd go back to that style/mentality. So good.
What I like about it is that it isn't cutesy. It looks cool mostly from a kid's perspective but it doesn't look like it's specifically for kids. Nintendo's packaging has looked cutesy and childish since the N64. Obviously Mario SNES games had cutesy images on the cover but games with a more "serious" art style like Super Metroid and Contra III do not look weird in the standard SNES packaging theme. Neither the NES or SNES had any packaging that really suggested they were somehow more family or kid oriented than any other videogame system of the time. The SNES packaging looks dated but you could have seen that kind of design on boxes for computer accessories at the time. The design just says "here's a videogame system" instead of suggesting a target audience of kids or casuals.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 20, 2012, 06:38:20 PM
I don't remember the SNES packaging because it got thrown out after the system was opened and hooked up. I don't know if I even had a chance to get a good look at it.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 20, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
*looks at 3DS packaging* *wonders what about it is supposed to look cutesy or childish* *racks brain trying to come up with anything like that for regular Wii packaging too*
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Adrock on June 20, 2012, 07:01:59 PM
Likewise. I just looked at all 3 boxes. The SNES box I have has some screenshots of Super Mario World on it. That's the closest one to being cutesy which is a stretch. They all mostly just feature pics of the hardware. I don't understand what the issue is.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kwolf on June 21, 2012, 11:13:02 AM
My guess for America is 300 dollars. A copy of Nintendo Land. One Gamepad. Standard AV cables. A charging cord/dock for gamepad. Standard AC adapter. Normal Packaging things like instructions.
Title: Re: What's going to be packed in with the Wii U?
Post by: Kairon on June 22, 2012, 01:17:30 PM
My guess for America is 300 dollars. A copy of Nintendo Land. One Gamepad. Standard AV cables. A charging cord/dock for gamepad. Standard AC adapter. Normal Packaging things like instructions.
