Post by: grap3fruitman on May 19, 2003, 02:27:33 PM
Websites have also gotten rid of the Demo Disc from their listings.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 19, 2003, 02:33:33 PM
Give Nintendo time, I'm sure they'll make demo discs a regular thing via some magazine.
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From: "Robert Miller"
Posted To: Nintendo <nintendo@noa.nintendo.com>
Subject: Gamecube Preview Disc
To whom it may concern;
When I first heard of the preview disc coming out on May 19th I was
very excited. I would be going to get the opportunity to play some early
versions of games to come as well as show them to my friends whom do not
have a Gamecube. But now I have heard that it will only be allowed to
persons whom are purchasing a new system. This frustrated and confused
me.
I feel that this is the exact opposite action to do in Nintendo's
position. For Nintendo to move farther ahead of Microsoft in the number
2 position, it must get word out with what is coming in every feasible
way. One of these ways is with the pre mentioned preview disc. With a
larger user-base, there is a larger incentive for third-parties to make
games. For instance, many people do not know or believe that Tom
Clancy's Splinter Cell, which is made by Ubi Soft who is a third party
developer, is out on all platforms now because of Microsoft's time
exclusivity they had on it for six months. Other potential Gamecube
owners looking for the game will go directly for the Xbox or Playstation
2 since there has been marketing directly for those platforms by each
respective company.
But by getting the preview disc out which have the playable demos of
games, it can show that the Gamecube is just as good as the others with
comparable, identical, and better games. Many "casual gamers" are more
concerned with image than having games that are fun like The Legend of
Zelda: The Wind Waker. With gaming today, there is only so much that can
be said versus actually playing a game to describe it. The Wind Waker is
a prime example of this. Mr. Miyamoto consistently talked about waiting
until playing the game before making judgments. Most people would agree
that he was correct.
I do hope that this recent decision will be reevaluated and the
decision to have the disc as a separate optional purchase is made. There
are no negative side affects to this promotion. The Gamecube's quality
games will be better advertised because more people will be able to talk
about or show the games to others. There would not be any more loss of
revenues to Nintendo because more people would be able to purchase them.
I know I am not the only one who feels this way. Please take these
considerations carefully, it could greatly help the image of the
Gamecube and could bring in many more Nintendo product owners.
Robert Miller
This sucks, none of the stores around here have them much less even heard of them. I have tried EB Games, Circuit City, and Target.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 19, 2003, 03:09:09 PM
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Originally posted by: grap3fruitman
Several retailers I've called have told me that the GCN Demo Disc cannot be purchased seperately..
Websites have also gotten rid of the Demo Disc from their listings.
I must be one of the lucky ones because I got my demo disk today, ordered it from EBgames.com about a week ago.
Viewtiful Joe is interesting but the control set up will take me some use to, don't know yet if I will buy it. It plays smoothly and the graphics are astondingly perfect. I got to the gunslinger guy but couldn't get past him
Soul Calibur 2 is great, I already pre-ordered my copy even though the last fighting game I have played was Killer Instinct Gold on the N64. I never played a "3-D" fighting game and without any previous knowledge of how to play this game and without any instruction on how to perform special moves I just went wild and got past several fighters but couldn't get past Voldo (sp?) Looking forward to this one.
Billy Hatcher. The demo was short but fun, I played it twice and will probably get this when it comes out. It's cute but not in a bad way. When he does his egg echo he makes a cock-a-doodle-do sound that made me smile. A lot better than I was expecting.
These were the only demos I played.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 19, 2003, 03:42:04 PM
Where on heaven and earth did you find this demo disc. I can't see it anywhere on the site.
Post by: grap3fruitman on May 19, 2003, 03:55:29 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 19, 2003, 04:41:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Where on heaven and earth did you find this demo disc. I can't see it anywhere on the site.
I ordered mine May, 8. It was listed on the home page for the Gamecube section. I'm kinda glad I went ahead and got it when I did. So far it looks like Nintendo is doing something stupid again. I guess they think no one already owns a Gamecube.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 19, 2003, 04:44:23 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 19, 2003, 05:27:10 PM
Post by: nintendofan on May 19, 2003, 06:14:41 PM
Post by: The Doc on May 19, 2003, 06:24:36 PM
The Doc
Post by: Ian Sane on May 20, 2003, 08:13:28 AM
Besides the existing Gamecube market is who it makes the most sense to get this disc to since they are the ones that will buy the games featured.
Post by: ZombieX on May 20, 2003, 01:48:36 PM
Post by: dafunkk12 on May 20, 2003, 07:03:44 PM
Post by: ThePerm on May 20, 2003, 08:20:37 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 20, 2003, 08:36:31 PM
Oh so I guess Nintendo really is dumb enough to f*ck up something this simple. *Sigh* Is there no one at Nintendo that might think for a second that maybe people who already own a Cube might want to get this disc? Since I'm in Canada the local stores probably won't get the disc until like Thursday which will give Nintendo plenty of time to alert the store and screw me over. I really hope the EB guys just say "f*ck it" and sell me the disc.
Post by: joshnickerson on May 21, 2003, 03:58:37 AM
Hey, it worked with the Zelda bonus disc...
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 21, 2003, 05:18:32 AM
Post by: dafunkk12 on May 21, 2003, 06:13:12 AM
If things get hairy, tell the clerks to call their Nintendo Rep or District Manager. Hah, but don't upstage them by being more helpful to other customers than they are; it really pisses some of them off. (Yeah, unrelated to Nintendo, but that's what happened to me when picking up my disc. The man shouldn't be working in the electronics department if he has to look at a piece of paper to state obvious facts about digital cameras. Working a specific department demands background. If you don't have it, go back to stocking.)
Post by: joshnickerson on May 21, 2003, 11:19:50 AM
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Post by: Scyth3r on May 21, 2003, 01:05:05 PM
Post by: joshnickerson on May 21, 2003, 01:18:57 PM
Post by: Strell on May 21, 2003, 02:44:55 PM
OMG.
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I need to change my pants....
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2003, 03:41:26 PM
Post by: WhoDey on May 21, 2003, 04:19:24 PM
Truth be told, these things should be free. The more people that get them the more people likely to buy one of the games on the disc. However, I'm still willing to pay $10 for it. For Nintendo to say only people buying a new GC should get one is ridiculous. I imagine this will be changed quickly and they will be common to find in a couple weeks. Atleast I hope so. I'm really interested in 4 of the 5 games on the disc and that's 4 possible games that this consumer might buy if given the chance to preview them.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2003, 05:41:52 PM
I'm was willing to pay cuz I'm a Nintendo media freak.
Post by: StRaNgE on May 21, 2003, 08:19:36 PM
viewtiful Joe is lots of fun, I was not into the title at all before today but it was fun, did start to get boring though after a bit but I assume that might be because it's just a demo.
Billy and the damn egg lost my interest before I even began but my 5 year old loved it to death. Played it more then any of the others followed closely by soul caliber to my surprise.
Sonic was horrid, the cameras and jerkiness and glitches in were just way to many. I had always heard it was better then the second but find that extremely hard to believe after playing the demo. I played a level or two years ago and do not recall it being so bad. It used to be a must have for me now I might not even bother with a rental (thank you Mr. demo disk for saving me some cash).
Splinter cell was splinter cell , a good inclusion for those who had not played it yet.
wario was a blast and dr. Mr. is dr. mario. A idea having them downloadable like that!
Soul caliber. Very fun but wish I could play more then 2 characters and I wish I had a button to jump with.
I hate the fact there is not a jump button. The stick would not work as one because it's in a 3D ring but the L button or R button would work perfect and I just do not understand why it is lacking that, the amount of tricks and moves could be increased by far with that inclusion. Besides that, a very beautiful game and will probably if not defiantly get that one.
Post by: egman on May 22, 2003, 02:49:38 AM
Anyway I FINAllY got my disc yesterday. I live in Georgia so things to come in later. I hate all those people on the west cost that were playing this thing last friday.
Just kidding, but I do miss living in Sacramento. I used to live 20 minutes from Fry's, and it looks like Fry's got the disc earlier than anyone else. Would've been nicer than a ten mile drive to the Mall of Georgia.I played all the demos except Splinter Cell
I was dissappointed in Sonic--very little has changed except that now there is some stupid slowdown that did not exist on the Dreamcast. Unless you want all of the GameGear Sonics, then those who already have this on Dreamcast can save the money. Otherwise, it's a decent buy, but not mind blowing.
Billy the Hatcher--This is demo is SUPER short. I don't think I will a really good impression of this game until I can rent. However, the little I was able to see shows promise. This seems to be more emphasis on platforming rather than collecting stuff--a good thing.
Rolling the egg around for attacks is hell of awkard, but you get used to it. It's not a stunner, but it has a lot of nice liquid effects from what I can see.
My only qualm is the pop up. I hope they have enough time to fix that up. SMS and some of best PS2 platformers have NO pop up--I would expect the programming talents at Sonic Team to at least meet that standard for draw distance.
Soul Calibur--I can't wait for this. The GC controller is slightly awkard, but you can get used to it. It doesn't matter to me much since I'm planning to get a arcade stick for this game and a few others.
The game is a sight to behold. While it might not knock your block off immediately like Tecmo has with DOA, a quick comparison between the Dreamcast orginal and sequel leave no doubt about the boost in visual splendor. More importantly, the game is still light year ahead of DOA in terms of gameplay. It's easy enough to get into, but button mashing only gives you so much mileage in SC 2 or SC for that matter. A good thing if you ask me.
Finally, Viewtiful Joe--I thought this would be a sleeper hit, but if Capcom and Nintendo promotes this correctly, it could be system seller. This game is FUN! Many will dig the Matrix type use of speed when fighting baddies. It's hard to describe the please of going into slow mo and laying down a devasting combo on some punk droid. I hope this will mark the return of beat em ups.
Post by: dafunkk12 on May 22, 2003, 11:59:14 AM
When you beat the first mission, don't exit out of the demo. Just start again and you'll be presented with Mission 2. I didn' really play through it, so I don't know how many times you can do that, but they sure do tease you with a whole level flyby, and if its anything like the other included demos, I'm guessing they may actually let you play through the whole level.
Post by: AlienJF on May 22, 2003, 12:21:44 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 22, 2003, 01:26:03 PM
Post by: RickPowers on May 22, 2003, 01:36:22 PM
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Finally, Viewtiful Joe--I thought this would be a sleeper hit, but if Capcom and Nintendo promotes this correctly, it could be system seller.
Funny you say that. Capcom seems to think it could be a system seller as well.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 22, 2003, 02:59:15 PM
Post by: Fammy2000 on May 23, 2003, 04:31:30 AM
I was turned off by the graphics initially, but once I was Viewtiful, it was all good.
Target is indeed the place to get the demo disc. Good luck y'all.
Post by: nicksthings on May 23, 2003, 02:04:24 PM
Two days and 25 phone calls later (in which I had told people they couldn't buy it), I notice that we're getting in a whopping 6 copies of the demo disc and they would a) be for sale $9.99 or b) come with the purchase of a new Gamecube system. So we got them in today, I picked one up, it's good times. All Gamestops should be selling them for $9.99 - if you don't see it, just ask. If you're told they're not for sale, just push them to check their daily store e-mail, because as of this morning, $9.99 was the story.
But beware the limited quantities. Nintendo likes to ship as low a number of in demand products to retailers as they possibly can.
Post by: rpglover on May 23, 2003, 02:51:39 PM
i love it- it was worth the ten bucks
splinter cell: its alright, i like the game, but i still prefer metal gear to it- but it is fun and is a long demo for what it is worth
billy hatcher: a very short demo but it was still fun- more so than the sonic game on the disk- i didnt think too much of the game until i played it but after i did i found out how much fun it was
sonic: blows- the game is too jerkey and not smooth- the dc version plays better than the game on gc does
soul calibur 2: tons of fun- a lot of good fighting and a good sequal to soul calibur- contols take some time to get used to but it is fun none the less
viewtiful joe: i have wanted this game since the capcom 5 have been announced and all i have to say is that the demo for this game is worth the ten bucks- the game controls great with the stick or the d-pad and the buttons are used very well
the effects in the game are great- l controls slow as r controls mach speed- and the game plays like a dream
i cant wait for this game now to come out- it will be good
Post by: Skyman_Welks on May 24, 2003, 09:18:29 AM
I think all the games are great..... I still like sonic though.
EDIT: BTW, I'm having trouble getting that 2nd mission in billy hatcher...... explain it again.
Post by: AlienJF on May 24, 2003, 10:28:49 AM
At the start screen hold down A and then press start. The second level is just the first but with a few different things.
Post by: joshnickerson on May 24, 2003, 03:01:46 PM
One of my friends almost wet his pants when he saw the Rebel Strike trailer.
Oh, and the downloadable Gameboy games are just freakin' cool.
