Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: novastar512 on May 15, 2003, 08:03:11 PM
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: novastar512 on May 15, 2003, 08:03:11 PM
Well, I have to say I am extremly displeased with Nintendo. I sure everybody has heard of the new 4 swords game for the GC. However, I can't believe that Nintendo is requiring a GBA for each person instead of a normal GC controller to play the game!!! That is the stupidest thing I HAVE EVERY HEARD! Nintendo has just taken gimic devices to a new level. I know, there are secrets when you go into rooms and stuff, but they have greatly decreased the amount of people who will buy the game.
I have quite a few friends but none of them have GBA. Not only that but, you also have to have 2 GBA GC-link cables in order to hook up the GBA's. This is INSANE. Nintendo has taken this scam of buying all of their devices to a whole new level. I was OK with theE-reader and stuff, but common, I highly doubt most people have friends with other GBAs. What happened to split screen? Sure it "spoils" the fun that they are trying to achieve, but it would be also more fun to play, if you could actually play with 4 people without needing 4 GBA.
I can't believe this is another Zelda game which I will not be able to experience(right after 4 swords for GBA, since I don't know anybody with it either).
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: SatansNemesis on May 15, 2003, 08:15:04 PM
I personaly think that it is an awesome idea that has a huge level of potential. I have one friend that has a GBA and I know hed buy the cable just to play this one, we already play the GBA frou swords. It may also convince a few other friends to buy GBA. Though I do agree with the problem of buying the link cables. either there needs to be a 4 player adapter that can plug in to the GC that works like the old SNES multi tap did for four player, or they need to offer it for free/cheaper. because my friends who might buy it may not want to spend the 10 bucks for the cable only for one game that they only get to play sometimes (aka need more games like this). I eagerly await for the day I can have 3 friends over and we can stay up all night with pizza pepsi pringles and four player zelda. That would be cool.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Scyth3r on May 15, 2003, 08:43:52 PM
I give you a 6/10 on that whine.
You have to realize the purpose of these games w/ link up capabilities is to get Gameboy owners (a MUCH huger user base) incentive to buy a Gamecube. Not the other way around. Yeah, it shafts GC only owners somewhat, but hey lifes not fair.
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: BlkPaladin on May 15, 2003, 08:56:44 PM
And its not Nintendo who is requiring the link, its Capcom. They are the ones who are making the game. (With Nintendo's blessings though.)
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: RickPowers on May 15, 2003, 09:42:04 PM
Unlike Crystal Chronicles, where the GBA link up is nothing more than a gimmick, the GBA is integral to the strategy of the new Four Swords game. Having other people unable to see what you're doing is pretty critical.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Mario on May 15, 2003, 09:47:10 PM
I think Nintendo is taking this GBA-GC link idea WAY to seriously. Even the tingle tuner in Wind Waker is lame. Is this what we get instead of a DVD player?
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Jollus on May 15, 2003, 09:57:15 PM
I hope this game is a budget title. If they expect you to have all that hardware I would hope they would give you a break on the game cost.
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Bloodworth on May 15, 2003, 10:09:16 PM
People will complain about anything. One of the big reasons about Four Swords on GC is so GBA owners won't all have to have the Four Swords cartridge. That is a huge barrier to the multiplayer, and Nintendo has removed that for GBA owners by allowing them all to hook up to the GC without a cart. And yes being able to hide your screen is integral to the gameplay.
As far as the link cables go, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo simply started including them with GBAs when these games start hitting the street.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 16, 2003, 02:20:30 AM
These games look very interesting, but since I don't have a GBA, I shan't be getting them.
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 16, 2003, 02:56:04 AM
There's no way I'll buy a GBA and a billion link cables to play this, but.. Do you think Nintendo really expect us to? No.
This is for the people out there that have access to what's needed and want to use it just that little bit more. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not as if these "games" are huge. They're piss small little multi-player things, most likely taking up 5 MB of disc space at the most. Not important. At all.
If Nintendo start doing this to larger games, then yeah. Complain then. (And no, I don't count the new Pokemon Stadium game that needs a GBA hooked up, "big", it's yet another cheap, pointless turn based fighter)
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 16, 2003, 03:29:45 AM
Guys, seriously, the game is NOT worth it- if you really want to play 4 Swords, buy A Link to the Past for the GBA and play it that way.
And this may be gimmicky, but the game's targeted at people who already own GBA's, not whiny bitches who, for some reason, refuse to acknowledge to many good games the GBA has. :\
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: AERO on May 16, 2003, 04:00:49 AM
I must go look for that rant about microsoft trying to monopolize the gaming industry from someone around here and post it here. Just change a few words, or titles around.
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Jedi Master Yoda on May 16, 2003, 04:18:47 AM
Well, since there's many more people who own a GameBoy than those who own a GCN, I guess Nintendo assumes that everyone who owns a GCN owns a GB. The people who own a GCN without a GB are in the minority.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 16, 2003, 04:59:53 AM
I can't wait for this game, because I loved 4 Swords on the GBA. I hope to see a bunch of new dungeons, however.
I don't know why, but I have a feeling 4 Swords GCN will be packaged with Tetra's Trackers.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Nintendork SP on May 16, 2003, 05:44:42 AM
I think this is awsome, I have the equipment for my self and I have the friends to do it with. WEEE I love Four Swords!
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: RickPowers on May 16, 2003, 05:45:41 AM
Quote Guys, seriously, the game is NOT worth it- if you really want to play 4 Swords, buy A Link to the Past for the GBA and play it that way.
You haven't played it. It's absolutely worth it if you have a Cube and a GBA, and have friends with at least a GBA. It's a simple game, but that doesn't mean that it's "not worth it". It's probably one of the most fun games there is. I'd rather play this than Mario Party, for sure.
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: EggyToast on May 16, 2003, 05:47:38 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo is doing all this connectability stuff in order to incorporate the GB screen into the next console's controllers, sort of like the DC controllers but actually usable.
or if they do something like that for THIS console. Still, they're accessory-based games, so I think Nintendo is aware that they won't sell as well as just a basic game. I do think they're doing this mostly so developers know what their options are. It's well known that most developers are followers, not innovators, so it's important for Nintendo to do little games like these if they want other companies to do GBA-GC things.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: godwheel on May 16, 2003, 07:02:44 AM
If this game costs $39.99+ I won't be getting it.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 16, 2003, 10:23:50 AM
people, you don't have to get it. did you really expect another full fledged zelda game for gc this soon? nintendo had to have something up they're sleeve. i love this idea of taking connectivity to a new level. FFCC looks awsome, you don't think so? if you don't have friends with a GBA or link cable, or don't have friends, don't get the game. i hate people that say like "the ps2 has 100,000 games, not including ps1 games." i 've said this before, i want you to play and beat all 6 billion of them, and then you can complain. there are planty of other games to chooses from.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Ninja X on May 16, 2003, 11:24:02 AM
It would be awesome if Nintendo merged Tetra's Trackers and Four Swords into one Zelda game. It would probably warrant a purchase from me and many other gamers. As it is, I'm not buying either game. I do not have three friends who have GBAs to play The Four Swords, so I doubt I'll ever buy it separately. However, Four Swords looks intriguing. The premise of competing for rupees sounds intriguing. The original for GBA had the same premise, and I hear nothing but good things regarding the game.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Ian Sane on May 16, 2003, 01:29:15 PM
"It's not as if these 'games' are huge. They're piss small little multi-player things, most likely taking up 5 MB of disc space at the most. Not important. At all. If Nintendo start doing this to larger games, then yeah. Complain then."
Yeah but even though these aren't "big" games they'll likely still cost the same as a normal game. I'm also pretty sure that in Nintendo's eyes The 4 Swords is a big title. They showed off Mario Kart ahead of time but this is wha they saved for the show. That either means they're really dumb or in their minds The 4 Swords (and all the other connectivity games) is a big title. Nintendo seriously thinks that the GBA/GC linkup stuff is a big deal. Therefore The 4 Swords is a major title.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Vanilla Thunder on May 16, 2003, 02:33:07 PM
Well, this is HUGE title for me. I have two gaming brothers and about a dozen gaming friends right down the street, each with a GBA and the cash to buy the rather inexpensive link-up cable. We're all true Zelda fanatics through and through, and we're complete multiplayer whores. With Four Swords, we'll be getting the best of both worlds; competitve and cooperative action in a nostalgic, highly stylized Zelda world, that you can explore big-time on the TV and secretly on the GBA screen. For people like us, this is no small game, but a rather worthwhile one. Games like this, coupled with some pizza and pop, equals fun all through the night, and judging from the very positive impressions the Four Swords is receiving, there's no doubt it'll be great fun. I really want this game --- it's honestly impressed me more than most of the games at this year's E3, especially after seeing it in motion at Nintendo's E3 website.
Nintendo, being able to afford any losses they may take on selling this game to a somewhat limited audience, is very justified in following this game through (though I can't say the same of Tetra's Trackers). Those of you without a GBA in the first place should just go and pick one up --- they cost only a bit more then a GC game, they have the best library of titles, and they are the best gaming system Nintendo has delivered in a while. Buy a GBA so you'll be able to enjoy Four Swords, and stop whining.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: SatansNemesis on May 16, 2003, 08:35:12 PM
Have any of you stopped to think that this could be the premise to a four swords 2 that has a huge epic adventure equal to or greater than the size of LTTP? since the GC can hold a butt load of stuff like that I believe that it is highly possible that they are making a huge epic 4-player zelda. everyone has to fight for rupees, grudgingly cooperate, create 'alliances', and whoever has the most rupees in the end get the girl! lol, you guys seem so negative about GC all of the time, are you sure some of you aren't IGN editors? j/k
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 17, 2003, 01:46:01 AM
Well, if this title is good enough, I'll serously consider buying a GBA and a link cable so I can play this with my friends. Its not like this game is the only game I'll use a GBA for, the E3 titles for the GBA are more impressive than the GC's!
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Epitaph on May 17, 2003, 06:55:32 AM
Nintendo should release one big game disc with all their 4 player gba games for gamecube. So you can play 4 players with only the disc intead of 4 catriges now that would be grand. Have mario kart, zelda 4 swords, etc... Would that be worth it to you, thats what I thought.
Maybe nintendo will include screens in their next controllers. Heck, what if the next gamebuy is so cheap they make it like a wavebird but you can take it with you and play mini games on it or something. Just have a slot in it for games. Maybe they will make gamecube 2's controllers backwards compatible with gba. The gba controller, basically the controller with a screen, or you can buy one just normal for 10$-20$ less or something.
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Koopa Troopa on May 17, 2003, 08:08:57 AM
I don't know why everyone is complaining... This is the first 100% non-gimmicky use of the NGC/GBA link. I'd pick this up in a heart beat if I had enough friends with a GBA.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 17, 2003, 09:33:09 AM
They require so much, a game should be easy to pick up, not hard and needed to be planned out.
Definitly not buying it.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Mario on May 17, 2003, 05:02:57 PM
Actually now that i look into this game im starting to get really interested in it. I have two GBA's and a GC so i think i'll be buying this game. It sounds fun
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: RockmanX on May 17, 2003, 06:20:57 PM
This would be a great title to start Nintendo with online gaming. Has anyone here ever played Graal, it was like an online Zelda. Though I'm not sure if it's still around.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 18, 2003, 01:52:22 AM
Would anyone care to believe that Tetra and 4Swords (and quite possibly FF:CC) are geared toward GBA players (and the GBA market in general) who happen to have GameCubes, not GameCube players who happen to have GBAs? There are two distinct markets, and it looks like Nintendo is still actively trying to get their GBA userbase (huge) to be converted into their GCN userbase (definitely smaller by comparison).
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 18, 2003, 07:37:57 AM
Isn't a GBA player with a Gamecube the same thing as a Gamecube player with a GBA, though?
Don't worry, I know what you mean.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Whichone on May 18, 2003, 07:38:43 AM
Was anyone else disappointed with this Tetras Trackers crap. I love Nintendo and own a GCN but honestly this is one of the lamest Zelda games ive ever heard of. I was hoping for this to go somewhat like Majoras Mask, when it was released after OoT, not some halfbaked, GBA, pirate finding game.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: Matthew on May 18, 2003, 02:24:03 PM
Wow, I can't wait for this. My friends who have cube and a GBA all have connecters, this is going to be amazing. So to all you whiners, no one told you to play the game. If a game for PC came out and you didn't have the system requirements you wouldn't be saying "Thanks for nothing!". It's the same thing.
Title: RE: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: WesDawg on May 18, 2003, 03:26:29 PM
I'm not counting Tetra's as a real Zelda. I think people had their hopes up for a new one, but to release one less than a year after the last would be stupid. It'd be flooding the market. WW is great. If you've got a bunch of friends with GBA get 4 Swords, it looks really fun.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: novastar512 on May 20, 2003, 03:11:17 PM
This would be the perfect online game though. It would be worth the price of the Broadband Adapter. I have no friends that have GBA's which sucks, they all have consoles(but I do have more than 1 controller )
There needs to be a company to make a connecter to hook your GBA to the computer and then play people over the net, since that would be how the 4 swords would really get popular and make it much better than that crap Graal Online game.
Title: Thanks for nothing Nintendo!!!(Zelda 4 Swords)
Post by: ZombieX on May 20, 2003, 03:37:25 PM
Looking at Nintendo's video of this game. How can any Zelda fan not want this game!?
Check out that battle on the bridge over the water! Holy crap! That is amazing!
Four players on a Zelda adventure with tons of enemies everywhere! Now that's what I'm talking about. I can't wait to get this game!
j/k
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