Post by: NintendoKiD on May 13, 2003, 03:36:14 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 13, 2003, 03:55:59 PM
Post by: GoHuskers on May 13, 2003, 04:08:37 PM
Most of the other titles sound cool though.
Post by: Mario on May 13, 2003, 04:28:51 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 13, 2003, 04:36:03 PM
"We left the show feeling slightly disappointed and baffled at Nintendo's future line-up, particularly its decision to push GBA connectivity and neglect fully blown GameCube franchise hits.
Post by: GCSoccer on May 13, 2003, 04:46:29 PM
Post by: Mario on May 13, 2003, 04:51:19 PM
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Sony, maybe, but DEFINETELY not Microsoft.
Um, Halo 2 absolutely blows every little pokemon and zelda game nintendo showed into tiny little pieces. Have you seen it?! And Conker: Live & Uncut looks awesome! And so does that other Rare game. Not to mention Doom III and Halflife 2... nintendowned...
Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 13, 2003, 05:07:54 PM
Post by: egman on May 13, 2003, 05:10:23 PM
While I wasn't blown away by Nintendo's conference, I'm not impressed by the others either. I agree with the IGN quote though, this connectivity thing is beginning to be bothersome. The Pac-Man thing is pretty cool, but some of the ideas look like they are going to piss off more gamers rather than attract the huge GBA userbase. There has got to be a less alienating way of making GBA/GC connectivity work.
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 13, 2003, 05:14:25 PM
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Sony, maybe, but DEFINETELY not Microsoft.
Um, Halo 2 absolutely blows every little pokemon and zelda game nintendo showed into tiny little pieces. Have you seen it?! And Conker: Live & Uncut looks awesome! And so does that other Rare game. Not to mention Doom III and Halflife 2... nintendowned...
Did I miss something Mario? MS has hardly has good showing for E3 thus far. Outside of of Halo and the two Rare games you have two PC titles. Where is the wealth of great titles that you are seeing, what are they because thus far MS has yet to have a good E3 IMO. They have been living off of hype and free game promotions.
Sony so far definately has dropped the bomb of the show with the announcement of the PSP. That stated it seems to be like there PS2 announcement, a bunch of specs, no price, and don't buy anything wait for this type of announcement. Without a price, screenshots of some titles, and announcements concerning 3rd party support it almost vaporware. The technology is quite impressive but the Gameboy has always been outgunned from a technological standpoint. To beat the GBA...sony will need games and portability. The PSP will obviously be much larger than the GBA. If Nintendo doens't see it as a threat, given what happened with the original PS, they either know something we don't or they have something up there sleeve.
Nintendo's E3 has been a disappointment to me thus far but, only because I have yet to see a big surprise from them. They usually have a great surprise for us each year. That stated the wealth of titles from Nintendo shown so far has been excellent. I would like to see more of Twin Snakes, learn more about Geist, etc. Oh and I'm finally glad to hear that we will be getting Fire Emblem. I will hold a real judgement on E3 when the actual show begins. I mean its the pre show for God's sake Mario LOL.
Darc Requiem
Post by: joshnickerson on May 13, 2003, 05:17:30 PM
But yeah... some of their cube titles do look a little cheap, especially the Zelda titles, which really disappoints me. I just hope they make the right moves when actually pricing the games ($50 for Pokemon Box, I think NOT)
Titles I am genuienly excited about, aside from the obvious Mario Kart and F-Zero, is Kirby's Air Ride, which actually looks like a fun little game, Star Fox 2, Wario World, and Pokemon Colusseium, which might just fix everything wrong with the N64 games. Geist and Custom Robo also looks interesting and worth looking into.
And as a side note, the IGNCube boys have always been doom and gloom about Nintendo failing. It's almost as if they get off on bitching that Nintendo is doing everything wrong.
Oh, and I think it's funny that Rare is finally putting another Conker game out there and it's not much more than a remake of Bad Fur Day with Xbox Live elements in multiplayer.
Post by: Mario on May 13, 2003, 05:22:24 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 13, 2003, 05:24:52 PM
I could care less about PSP (handheld Sony, am I right?). That doesn't look like it's going anywhere. Nintendo is way ahead in number of products, perfection thereof, and experience in general.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 13, 2003, 05:27:08 PM
And yes, I HAVE seen Halo 2. No doubt it looks incredible, but it's the same god damned thing as Halo, which was the same god damned thing as every other FPS out there (just BETTER). True, 3 Pokemom titles and 2 Zelda titles aren't anything special, but since when was Halo 2 if you weren't a deluded XBox fanboy? And what's with Doom III suddenly playing into the mix? All we've seen of the game is a video that pushes like a trillion polygons- it's not even the Doom we know and love. And it's coming out on the PC. Half Life 2? I'll give you props for mentioning it, but I would've put this game FAR ahead of Halo 2. Good thing I'll be buying it for my computer (if I ever get the thing running smoothly). At least Nintendo has new, original, *exclusive* titles. Even Halo 2 will make it to the PC eventually.
Post by: Mingesium on May 13, 2003, 05:42:09 PM
Post by: NintendoKiD on May 13, 2003, 05:49:40 PM
Yes the whole GBA thing with Zelda isnt that cool, Nintendo didnt realize not everyone has friends with GBAs but you can still play single player correct? Halo 2? Pfft. Nothing Timesplitters 2, MoH, or even Medal Gear cant handle not to mention Metroid Prime and Metroid 2.
Post by: Mario on May 13, 2003, 05:58:10 PM
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Only one Star Fox.
And yes, I HAVE seen Halo 2. No doubt it looks incredible, but it's the same god damned thing as Halo, which was the same god damned thing as every other FPS out there (just BETTER). True, 3 Pokemom titles and 2 Zelda titles aren't anything special, but since when was Halo 2 if you weren't a deluded XBox fanboy? And what's with Doom III suddenly playing into the mix? All we've seen of the game is a video that pushes like a trillion polygons- it's not even the Doom we know and love. And it's coming out on the PC. Half Life 2? I'll give you props for mentioning it, but I would've put this game FAR ahead of Halo 2. Good thing I'll be buying it for my computer (if I ever get the thing running smoothly). At least Nintendo has new, original, *exclusive* titles. Even Halo 2 will make it to the PC eventually.
Ok, let me make one thing clear, i am NOT an xbox fanboy. Just the thought of that brings shivers down my spine. Just look at the game collection in my sig, nintendo all the way! Doom III is not coming to Gamecube, it is coming to xbox though. Halflife 2 is not coming to GameCube, it is coming to xbox though. I dont care if their on pc, and dont give me this bs about Halo 2 being on PC because Halo 1 isnt even on PC yet and it came out on xbox nearly two years ago now. And where are Nintendo's new, original titles huh? The three new Pokemon games? Pikmin 2? Another Mario Kart? Two new zelda games? Metroid prime 2? Mario Party 5?
EDIT: Although i must admit Metroid Prime 2 looks pretty sweet, and so does Pikmin 2
Post by: Nintega on May 13, 2003, 06:01:56 PM
Post by: mjbd on May 13, 2003, 06:06:45 PM
Post by: rpglover on May 13, 2003, 06:19:29 PM
at last years e3, we knew what we were getting (zelda, metroid, mario) and nintendo still took the show for how good the games were
nintendo's biggest announcement thus far is what mouse_clicker said: Geist
that game came out of no where and is already looking good
and nintendo is helping to make this game
the concepts of the game seem good so hopefully we will see more later
we only have had teaser videos of everything so far- we shall soon see more on mario kart and fzero (which i want to)
the biggest surprise thus far was sony's psp, but all we know are specs and not anything else concrete
remember- e3 is from tommorrow (wed.) till friday
i am sure nintendo will show us more during that time
sony's game lineup is not that great yet- the best game shown thus far in mgs3
microsoft had some good games shown- halo 2, bc, fable and those 2 new rare games- nothing which was a total surprise to us yet
i personally want to see what that mario and luigi game on gba is about (along with metroid zero mission)
also- what about the mario game that nintendo is making (the one miyamoto talked of....mario 128)
i would like to see that as well
i think e3 will be a good year for nintendo- we shall see
Post by: DRJ on May 13, 2003, 06:29:37 PM
GCN has outsold Xbox by like 1.3 million units so it looks like M$ hasnt been able to buy second place yet
As for the PSP it could be nice, but it wont be out 'till the end of 2004 and there are already 1000+ games for GBA so there wont be much competition. Even if it is more powerful and can have better graphics or whatever it will be a long uphill battle for Sony. Just look at how PS2 owns the market with the worst system.
Halo II looks nice. I must admit that I love Halo. Unfortunately it is the only game I like for XBox and anyways all M$ has is a video and a release date for next year... maybe.
The Pac Man game looks fun. Hopefully some of these GBA type games for GCN will be priced appropriately like ($25-$35)
Post by: Rich on May 13, 2003, 07:41:16 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on May 13, 2003, 08:30:07 PM
The two Zelda games are not that great because they are offshoots and at least one of them is being made by Capcom not Nintendo.
I guess we will have to see what the next 3 days holds. And then the investor meeting that Nintendo holds in Japan they will be holding some stuff off for that because they have to please their investors.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 13, 2003, 10:27:00 PM
Even PC has been kicking GCN's butt at E3...Half Life 2, World of Warcraft, etc...
Yeah, so GCN has F-Zero, Mario Kart, Crystal Chronicles, Star Fox, etc...
But nothing on the same level as Metroid Prime or Wind Waker were.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2003, 12:02:08 AM
And games like Doom III and Half-Life 2 should've come out at least a year ago, given the technological edge PCs still had over our next-gen consoles. To me, PCs are playing catch-up simply cuz *the developers* have taken so long to produce results.
Who am I kidding? I want Aria of Sorrow.
Post by: oohhboy on May 14, 2003, 02:39:17 AM
Post by: nolimit19 on May 14, 2003, 07:07:33 AM
i dont know if this number is exactly right, but assuming its close......think about it....the cube and gba gained that much market share in a pretty average year.....look at all these killer games coming out this year. i dont think any will be huge console sellers, but they will all collectively sell enough where nintnedo will take even more market share this year. i am not super impressed by e3, but i dont think its bad, and i am sure they have something else up their sleaves. i like how nintendo came right out and said they have sold more then m$....that was nice.
one thing that i am mad at is that nintendo is making so many games for gba, and i understand why and all that, but why not get someone(maybe square enix) to make a mario rpg for the gamecube??? honestly now.....what they hell are they waiting for? nintendo needs to lanch their next gameboy and console right with sony's and they will be fine....the problem is whether they can do it or not.
Post by: WesDawg on May 14, 2003, 07:44:38 AM
impressive was shown, but the video of RE4 looks amazing. The MGS:TS trailer looks amazing. Heck, they even showed Metroid Prime 2, and didn't
even get a nod from the guys. Geesh FF:CC looks amazing too, and its all real time. In those shows its mostly about graphics so... well I think
Nintendo did fine in that dept, and the new ideas with GBA connectivity are cool I think. I've been to lazy to buy the $10 cable, but I will now that
there seems to be more use for it. Wish more of my friends had GBAs though....
I think they were just so shocked at Doom 3 and Halo 2 they forgot about the rest. I don't understand why they get so shocked. It apparently isn't
real hard to port PC games over to the Box so Doom can't have required much effort. Halo looks pretty, which the first one did too. Not a big
surprise.
Post by: nolimit19 on May 14, 2003, 08:20:01 AM
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