Post by: Bink on May 13, 2003, 10:49:58 AM
1.) I love my cube and its games are awesome BUT man y of the smash titles are rehashes of 64 titles namely Wave Race, Smash Melee, Sunshine need I go on?
2.) Many developers have shown tremendous support for the cube but either all thier titles are availible elsewhere or fade after time. Capcom anyone?
3.) I was so looking forword to Online gaming and thought nintendos great franchises would have a strong showing but they haven't. Kart on only LAN come on!
4.) Again while the titles are awesome and inventive. Zelda notably. Nothing keeps me coming for more like Halo or GTA 3 did and Knights of the old Republic and FF XI will.
I love nintendo and will always look back on the times I spent with NES and Snes with love and pride. But maybe this gamer will wait until nintendo can can fix whatever is holding it back. Screw you guys I am going home.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 13, 2003, 10:58:31 AM
anyways people today tried to tell me that i was stuck in the phase of blind loyalty to the console that i spent money on... i simply laughed at them
^ now that is news
edit: spelling
Post by: Dethroned Emperor on May 13, 2003, 11:00:38 AM
Post by: GokuSSJ2 on May 13, 2003, 11:01:17 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 13, 2003, 11:02:08 AM
#4 I simply disagree with, especially in the light that 2 of the 3 games listed aren't even out yet.
Like other people here, I will simply leave it at this: "I don't care."
Post by: AngusPodgorny on May 13, 2003, 11:02:52 AM
The way I see it, the only one of your arguments that holds water is the lack of online gaming on the 'cube. Hopefully this will be rectified soon.
-Angus
Post by: Bink on May 13, 2003, 11:15:47 AM
Post by: Dethroned Emperor on May 13, 2003, 11:21:34 AM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on May 13, 2003, 11:21:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Bink
I you didn't care why'd you come in, read, reply? Your an idiot all of you. and I'll leave you with this F$ck off
Remarkable performance Bink, your name really indicates your, simple character
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 13, 2003, 11:27:44 AM
Truthfully, I see no point to this thread whatsoever. You don't like your GameCube. Good for you.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 13, 2003, 11:36:12 AM
Seriously, this shouldn't matter to you if the games are good, and those games are incredible. Besides, there's many, MANY games on the Cube that aren't N64 sequels- nearly my entire GCN selection is made up of non-N64 rehashes. Maybe you're just not looking hard enough.
And SSBM was *hardly* a rehash. If every sequel expanded even half as much on it's predecessor as SSBM did, the word "rehash" would be nonexistant.
"2.) Many developers have shown tremendous support for the cube but either all thier titles are availible elsewhere or fade after time. Capcom anyone?"
Yeah, we get a lot of ports, but we ALSO get a lot of new games. Interesting that you mention Capcom when we're getting no less than 6 or 7 BRAND new titles from them, most of which are exclusive. You've got to get your ideas on track here, man.
"3.) I was so looking forword to Online gaming and thought nintendos great franchises would have a strong showing but they haven't. Kart on only LAN come on!"
That's something that's not exactly going to bring Nintendo down. Yeah, I'd love online gaming, too, but if you're that desperate for it go buy an XBox and quit your whining.
"4.) Again while the titles are awesome and inventive. Zelda notably. Nothing keeps me coming for more like Halo or GTA 3 did and Knights of the old Republic and FF XI will."
Seriously, what's the point of this one. If you like Halo and GTA3 and KOTOR and FFXI, THEN BUY A FRIGGIN' PS2 AND XBOX!!!! Are you crazy? Don't bitch to use how the Gamecube doesn't have the games you love so much and then completely skip the fact that you can buy the consoles they're on. No one's saying you have to own a Gamecube and only a Gamecube. Seriously, if you're THAT worried about Nintendo, sell your Gamecube and get an XBox or PS2. There's no reason not to. You're supposed to play games because they're fun, not because you have to prove you're loyal. You definitely should not hold onto a console that you're not satisfied with- it makes no sense at all. If a PS2 or XBox will fulfill your gaming needs better, by all means BUY one. And if you say you still like your Gamecube, then why are you complaining?
Post by: yellowfellow on May 13, 2003, 01:47:49 PM
Post by: EggyToast on May 13, 2003, 06:24:07 PM
"Why are they milking their franchises? I'm sick of it! I want games like Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Star Wars games, and Halo! Sure, those are also milked franchises, even more so, but I'm a hypocrite!"
Post by: deminisma on May 13, 2003, 06:30:20 PM
Post by: Gamefreak on May 13, 2003, 10:48:45 PM
But some of my friends who couldn't afford an SNES or Genesis bought NES's in the early to mid 90's, so I played a good amount of NES games.
Post by: PIAC on May 13, 2003, 10:56:29 PM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 14, 2003, 06:45:00 AM
Now they're a ridiculously conservative company that seldom strays beyond their established franchises and NEVER makes the first move. They're no longer a leader, they're a follower, seemingly by choice. When I read Nintendo's press release crowing about their strategy to "regain market leadership" I laughed out loud. Who are they kidding? They'll make money for their shareholders off of Pokemon and GBA, sure, but they will NEVER regain market leadership the way they're going.
Nintendo had better get with the times or they may find themselves struggling for survival one day.
silks
Post by: Moe405 on May 14, 2003, 06:50:03 AM
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Post by: The Doc on May 14, 2003, 10:28:18 AM
The Doc
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 14, 2003, 10:46:05 AM
I realize that Nintendo has to milk these great franchises for all they're worth, but these franchises seem to be the only thing that Nintendo is doing right now. Pikmin and Animal Crossing? Niche titles that look like they're meant for 10-year-olds (remember that perception is everything). Nintendo has no balance in their lineup - every game they turn out is cartoony. Enough already. I can't wait for Too Human and Geist, games without the fairy-tale plots and cartoony graphics.
I want something grittier, edgier, but not necessarily more violent or crass. Eternal Darkness was absolutely excellent...I can't go on enough about it. Nintendo doesn't seem to realize that today's gamers want something a little deeper than "Rescue the Princess".
silks
Post by: nolimit19 on May 14, 2003, 10:52:18 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 14, 2003, 12:16:32 PM
I completely disagree with you, but whatever. I don't care to argue.
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 14, 2003, 12:24:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Silks
I want something grittier, edgier, but not necessarily more violent or crass. Eternal Darkness was absolutely excellent...I can't go on enough about it. Nintendo doesn't seem to realize that today's gamers want something a little deeper than "Rescue the Princess".
Which explains the universal love for Zelda: Wind Waker.
Post by: nonjagged on May 15, 2003, 02:30:56 AM
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Oh man, that's funny.
"Why are they milking their franchises? I'm sick of it! I want games like Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Star Wars games, and Halo! Sure, those are also milked franchises, even more so, but I'm a hypocrite!"
You summed it it in just 1 or so sentences, you must be genius.
The problem is with the fanboys like Blinx or Binks or whomever is that they whine at anything because they want everything on their platform. They want every single franchise that is popular on any other platform even when they get milked-also (Vice City came out in less than a year right?)
No the GCN will not get the huge PC ports the Xbox will be getting but come on. Choose 1 console or the other, or dare I say buy both consoles and a PC platform and quite your uesless trash whining about Nintendo.
For FVCKS sake. Grow up people.
Post by: nonjagged on May 15, 2003, 02:41:15 AM
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The problem is that Nintendo don't make games that are new and fresh any more...I find myself constantly saying, "OK, another Zelda, Mario Kart, Metroid, Star Fox, Mario Golf, Pokemon, F-Zero and Pikmin are great, but when is Nintendo going to throw us all a curve and produce a game with serious themes?"
Actually the problem is that many gamers take these franchises for granted even though they are just measly "industry leading franchises/genres" that have been emulated/cloned/ripped-off by any competing platform paying up developers to try-hard emulate.
Actually the problem is many whinners arent aware that the N64 didnt do justice to these franchises and the Gamecube is the last Nintendo console that focuses on Nintendo's past creations etc.
You will see in late 2004 and 2005 when the next console launches that Nintendo will focus on new strategies even risky ones. (There is no rush it wants to monument its past franchises on a disc based system before they move on) .
In my opinion come 2005 when the next Nintendo console launches it will have a Zelda based on the Spaceworld Demo and everyone will finally shut up once and for all about Nintendo's decisions dont please them. Naturally the Spaceworld Demo must take 3-5 years to create because it will be on the scale of a monumental game in the history of Video gaming.
Post by: SubKamran on May 15, 2003, 05:43:54 AM
I loved SSB, and I can't wait to fully play SSBM. I also am buying Red Faction II, 007 Nightfire, LOTR: T2T, and Metroid Prime. RFII is one of the best shooting games I've ever played...it's so fun.
So I think what you decide, that's for you...but Nintendo has its exclusive games and so does XBox...XBox was made mostly for adults, GC was directed at preteens-teens. Besides, for me, the only reason to get XBox was for Halo, but it's coming out for PC anyways, so I'll just buy it then.
Post by: highenergyboy on May 15, 2003, 09:15:20 AM
On top of that i'll also be enjoying the best the Gamecube has to offer including Mario Kart Double Dash, Star Fox Armada, Resident Evil 4, Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike, Final Fantasy Chronicles, Metriod Prime II, Pikmin II, F-Zero GX, Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes, Soul Calibur II, Beyond Good & Evil, and Too Human. There is more where that came from but I think I got my point across with just those alone. Unlike those few vague reasons the author of this thread used to justify his losing faith in the Gamecube the ones I listed are far better examples of why I am not following suit.
Post by: EggyToast on May 15, 2003, 10:01:01 AM
Post by: codyy on May 15, 2003, 11:16:50 AM
Originally posted by: EggyToast
Oh man, that's funny.
"Why are they milking their franchises? I'm sick of it! I want games like Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Star Wars games, and Halo! Sure, those are also milked franchises, even more so, but I'm a hypocrite!"
That sums up this discussion.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 15, 2003, 11:33:17 AM
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No the GCN will not get the huge PC ports the Xbox will be getting but come on. Choose 1 console or the other, or dare I say buy both consoles and a PC platform and quite your uesless trash whining about Nintendo.
What's wrong with wanting all types of games on your console? Most people don't have enough money to buy two consoles and a PC, or do have the money but aren't as "hardcore" as the people on these forums.
Nintendo's continuation of its franchises should be a given on every one of their consoles, but I 'd enjoy some more "serious" titles to counterbalance their cartoony ones. For example, why not have a Zelda-ish game with a very dark theme and plot, maybe set in the future? You could point to Metroid Prime as being this game, but that's only one title. That's what I meant by "throwing a curve ball". When's the last time Nintendo REALLY surprised you? I mean REALLY knocked you on your ass with something they announced?
I'd love to see Nintendo create another development studio (maybe use the one they just opened in Tokyo?) to focus strictly on serious action-adventures and in-depth RPGs. That would shut a lot of people up. Nintendo should be coming up with games like Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil, not third-parties.
silks
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 15, 2003, 12:16:17 PM
Nintendo knocks me on my ass very often, unlike Microsoft and Sony. That's a very poor arguement. The other two systems have the most predictable games ever.
While I'm glad you bought a Gamecube, SubKamran, I think that Gamecube is directed toward all audiences (kids, teens, girls, adults, everything), whereas Xbox is focused towards adults and pathetic teens and preteens that like to pretend they're adults. Just my take on it
Post by: Bloodworth on May 18, 2003, 08:15:37 AM
