Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 12, 2011, 02:47:41 AM
Title: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 12, 2011, 02:47:41 AM
Kotaku has a walk through from the New kirby game
it even has co-op. looks pretty fun http://kotaku.com/5820063/i-was-wrong-to-blow-off-this-new-kirby-wii-game (http://kotaku.com/5820063/i-was-wrong-to-blow-off-this-new-kirby-wii-game)
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: NWR_Neal on July 12, 2011, 03:17:11 AM
I didn't even know this was being made. With this, Zelda and Rythm Heaven coming out this year is looking up for the Wii
I hope to god this isn't sarcastic, for several reasons.
Not sarcastic. When I noticed I hadn't heard of Kirby yet I looked and found quite a few games that just seem to be going under everyone's radar as well as some missed. Besides those three we've got a new Rune Factory, the infamous 2 RPGs (I import all my games where I am) and an original 4 player Rayman done nsmb style. The fact that 2d platforms haven't exploded on the Wii is ridiculous to me. Mario, Donkey Kong and Kirby are absolutely cleaning up and this is the first game to even attempt to challenge them. They can make a million CoD clones but somehow Nintendo is almost the only one capable of creating a 2d platformer. I'm a big fan and wish there were more.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2011, 12:16:02 PM
I find it kind of odd that we're getting such a convential Kirby game on the Wii so soon after Epic Yarn. Why was Epic Yarn a Kirby game in the first place? It didn't have Kirby's trademark transformations. It could easily have been new IP. Oh, but then Nintendo can't milk the **** out of burned out franchises. Forgot about that.
This is pretty much 100% guaranteed to be at least the second best Wii game of the year.
SixthAngel, you're kind of sticking it to everyone by using the import-only RPGs as an example of this year looking up for the Wii. If anything that's an example of the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: NWR_Neal on July 12, 2011, 12:23:23 PM
Epic Yarn was a Kirby game for the same reason Dinosaur Planet was a Star Fox game. At least Epic Yarn was good. :)
I don't share Sixth Angel's extreme positivity, but there are quite a few Wii games I'm excited for in the fall. I just wish there were Wii games during the other 8+ months of the year.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Luigi Dude on July 12, 2011, 04:22:29 PM
I find it kind of odd that we're getting such a convential Kirby game on the Wii so soon after Epic Yarn. Why was Epic Yarn a Kirby game in the first place? It didn't have Kirby's trademark transformations. It could easily have been new IP. Oh, but then Nintendo can't milk the **** out of burned out franchises. Forgot about that.
Considering NOA's terrible record at bringing over new IP's, you should be grateful Epic Yarn was turned into a Kirby game. Had the game remained Prince Fluffs Yarn like it originally was, there's no way in hell Reggie would have brought it over.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: NWR_Neal on July 12, 2011, 05:41:08 PM
I find it kind of odd that we're getting such a convential Kirby game on the Wii so soon after Epic Yarn. Why was Epic Yarn a Kirby game in the first place? It didn't have Kirby's trademark transformations. It could easily have been new IP. Oh, but then Nintendo can't milk the **** out of burned out franchises. Forgot about that.
Considering NOA's terrible record at bringing over new IP's, you should be grateful Epic Yarn was turned into a Kirby game. Had the game remained Prince Fluffs Yarn like it originally was, there's no way in hell Reggie would have brought it over.
ZING! And sadly true...
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2011, 06:10:22 PM
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Considering NOA's terrible record at bringing over new IP's, you should be grateful Epic Yarn was turned into a Kirby game. Had the game remained Prince Fluffs Yarn like it originally was, there's no way in hell Reggie would have brought it over.
So huzzah to NCL for being the lesser of two evils?
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Mop it up on July 12, 2011, 06:56:18 PM
I find it kind of odd that we're getting such a convential Kirby game on the Wii so soon after Epic Yarn. Why was Epic Yarn a Kirby game in the first place? It didn't have Kirby's trademark transformations. It could easily have been new IP.
It is a bit strange, but we don't know the whole story behind this new Kirby game. It looks to be the one that started development on the GameCube back in 2004 I believe, and so we don't know what happened between then and now. Was it still being developed before Epic Yarn came to be? Did Epic Yarn's success prompt HAL to step it up and finish the game? So many unanswered questions.
As for Epic Yarn being a new IP: What would be the point? Prince Fluff already looks like a blue Kirby anyway, so why make a new character who is so similar to an existing character? Fluff is still in the game, and I have my doubts anyone would have paid attention to it without Kirby.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2011, 07:42:37 PM
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As for Epic Yarn being a new IP: What would be the point? Prince Fluff already looks like a blue Kirby anyway, so why make a new character who is so similar to an existing character? Fluff is still in the game, and I have my doubts anyone would have paid attention to it without Kirby.
If Nintendo tried they could probably shoehorn an existing franchise into any new game they made. But if they did that back in the day, there would be no Kirby. At some point they had to take a risk and go with a new IP. All those established Nintendo franchises were brand new at some point and Nintendo will never create the next successful new Nintendo franchise if they just use the existing ones all the time.
Personally I'm just burned out on the same Nintendo characters. I remember when almost all of them were brand new (Mario and DK are the only ones that just "always" existed for me) and that used to be part of the appeal of Nintendo. They had these iconic franchises like Mario and they were also introducing new ones with new heroes, new gameplay, new stories, new villains, new worlds. Since Iwata took over that has pretty much disappeared (though on the N64, Rare was largely responsible for the new IP). In retrospect shoehorning Star Fox into Dinosaur Planet was pretty much the beginning of Nintendo's "franchise factory" approach and the Gamecube's "who are you?" marketing campaign, that played exactly to Nintendo's negative image of making cookie cutter sequels, soon followed.
It does depend on where this Kirby was at when Epic Yarn was made. I understand that if this was vaporware, there would be a desire for Nintendo to have some sort of Kirby game for the Wii and this would work. But if this was close to being ready, it comes across as being gun shy about new IP and using the existing franchises as a crutch. Creatively Nintendo will stagnate (hell I feel they have been for years) if they're afraid to break away from the established franchises.
Nintendo of today would probably have never made Kirby in the first place because the traditional Kirby gameplay of inhaling and exhaling items and absorbing powers could easily have been fashioned into a Mario spin-off staring Yoshi. Star Fox could easily have been a Metroid spinoff with Samus flying around in her ship.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Mop it up on July 12, 2011, 08:28:04 PM
Nintendo do still create new IP when an idea fits, but I don't think this was one such case for the reason I listed. I won't bother posting the list of their IP because I think someone else already has and none of it was anything you are interested in. And that's fine, that's fair. But they still do create plenty of new IP.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: NWR_Neal on July 12, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
I think we'll hear a lot more about Kirby Wii over the next few months. Nintendo hasn't really had their PR blitz about yet, and it was an afterthought at E3.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: SixthAngel on July 12, 2011, 09:09:22 PM
Epic Yarn was a Kirby game for the same reason Dinosaur Planet was a Star Fox game. At least Epic Yarn was good. :)
I don't share Sixth Angel's extreme positivity, but there are quite a few Wii games I'm excited for in the fall. I just wish there were Wii games during the other 8+ months of the year.
I wouldn't say extreme positivity. It's just that in so many threads I hear people talking about how the Wii is dead this year yet when this thread prompts me to look for the games myself I find that there are more games that I'm interested in coming up than I will actually buy. I agree about the beginning of the year but the negativity going forward is way too strong.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: NWR_Neal on July 12, 2011, 09:24:17 PM
My negativity will go away when we get solid release dates for Kirby, Mario Party, Zelda, etc. 2011 for the Wii has made me very downtrodden. Three games from Nintendo from January to August, all of which are pretty uninteresting games.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: that Baby guy on July 12, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
it even has co-op. looks pretty fun http://kotaku.com/5820063/i-was-wrong-to-blow-off-this-new-kirby-wii-game (http://kotaku.com/5820063/i-was-wrong-to-blow-off-this-new-kirby-wii-game)
I've just got to say Kotaku's preview here was really weak. They barely scraped the top of what was shown off at E3. Most of the text was more Totilo being surprised that Nintendo even had a Kirby game. The video demonstration didn't even show off all of Meta Knight's moves. No new abilities were shown! Why wasn't Bandana Dee on screen ever?!
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Mop it up on July 12, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
I wouldn't say extreme positivity. It's just that in so many threads I hear people talking about how the Wii is dead this year yet when this thread prompts me to look for the games myself I find that there are more games that I'm interested in coming up than I will actually buy.
I feel the same, there seem to be some pretty good games coming out this year despite the boring first half. Though I don't even mind that since 2010 was a simply amazing year on the Wii. So quickly people forget...
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: NWR_Neal on July 12, 2011, 09:39:24 PM
thatguy - Welcome to most mainstream coverage of Nintendo games!!! "It's a Zelda game! Screw you, you're gonna buy it!"
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Ceric on July 13, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
I just re-watched the NWR video. I already have the same beef with this as I did Canvas Curse. Playing as any other character that wasn't Kirby is going to gimp you. Why didn't they take Kirby back to his roots on this game where he just inhaled, ate, and shoot? Then he be in line with the rest of the characters. I know the transformation are now part of who he is but, it doesn't work for games with the rest of the cast really.
Title: Re: Kirby Wii (a working title)
Post by: Caterkiller on July 28, 2011, 08:20:02 PM
The supporting characters don't get extra powers like kirby but they have unique movesets all their own, mainly melee attacks but it works. Played a bit of it at comicon and it was pretty fun but felt exactly like the main series kirby games before it.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2011, 11:23:21 AM
Return to Dreamland is to launch in the U.S. Oct. 24th http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20110823005589/en
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: Shaymin on August 25, 2011, 07:17:16 PM
E10+? What the hell? (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Kirbys_return_to_dreamland_boxart.jpg)
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: MegaByte on August 25, 2011, 07:20:18 PM
Angry eyebrows are not appropriate for children under 10.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 25, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
Speaking of angry eyebrows, what does the Japanese box art look like?
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: MegaByte on August 25, 2011, 07:56:10 PM
We don't know yet. It hasn't even been given a final title in Japan.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: Mop it up on August 25, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
I guess a big sword means E10+.
If even the game with a bloody eyeball that shoots blood drips gets an E rating, I shutter to think what kind of disgusting monstrosity they've cooked up this time around...
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: SixthAngel on August 25, 2011, 09:36:23 PM
If even the game with a bloody eyeball that shoots blood drips gets an E rating, I shutter to think what kind of disgusting monstrosity they've cooked up this time around...
It's a Kirby game, everyone is going to buy this game. especially fan of the original games.
I'd believe you were going to buy it if you said it a little more angrily. (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/avatars_bucket/Daniel.gif)
I feel like angryizing (angry-eyesing?) everybody who posts here from now on.
Ultimate Partybear had a solid E rating despite showing everyone his balls in every post. He's just having fun and partying. (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/avatars_bucket/Ultimatepartybear.jpg) Now we need to call the cops and put that bear put on the sex offenders list.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 29, 2011, 10:47:26 AM
LOL, good luck on mine since it has no face.
I am a little surprised the game will be E10+ instead of E, but I don't think it will be that different.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: SixthAngel on August 29, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
You have tons of really, really tiny faces. I thought about going with red eybrows for more visibility but I was scared off by the sheer ferocity of them.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: nickmitch on August 31, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
But will he Lettuce Cat is so last week. Mock me for being behind the times.?
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: SixthAngel on August 31, 2011, 09:33:01 PM
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/avatars_bucket/AngryLettuce.gif) I'd be pissed if I was so last week too.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 31, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Oh, geez. If this keeps up, this thread is going to go from E10+ straight to NSFW.
Title: Re: Kirby's Return to Dream Land - October 24th
Post by: Tanookisuit on January 23, 2012, 10:51:19 AM
Just wanted to say that I really love this game. It's quickly become my favorite 4-player game on the Wii. It's beautiful, fun, charming. I know people knock it for not being Epic Yarn, but I think it's wonderful. If you haven't played it, please do.
