Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Chozo Ghost on June 18, 2011, 01:59:24 AM
Title: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 18, 2011, 01:59:24 AM
The title says it all. I think this is a fair question to ask, and I haven't seen anyone ask/answer it yet, so lets discuss.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Adrock on June 18, 2011, 03:09:09 AM
Nintendo probably prefers to stay at $50 but it'd make them look awful to 3rd parties who will most likely want to set the price at $60 like on PS3/360.
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Post by: nickmitch on June 18, 2011, 03:01:58 PM
I feel like Nintendo will set their games at $50, but most 3rd parties will release at $60 since they'd have more of an "across the board" incentive. If Nintendo could keep all games at $50, then that would be a huge push to capture PS360 owners.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: broodwars on June 18, 2011, 03:10:05 PM
Nintendo's always about making a profit wherever they can, the easier the better. And despite how much we hate it, most of us have probably gotten used to paying $60 for HD titles. I think Nintendo raises their prices to $60, citing the same HD costs everyone else has. I didn't think that Nintendo's $50 Wii price tags were often justified, so $60 won't be that different.
We seriously need to see more variable pricing in the market.
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Post by: ThePerm on June 18, 2011, 08:49:37 PM
Nintendo also likes to offer things a value prices...if it makes them competative. I can imagine Nintendo keeping the prices at $50 just to increase userbase. I think individual game price plays more a factor in who gets the higher userbase than console price. PSX was expensive but their games were considerably cheaper than n64 games, and that worked out great for Sony.
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Post by: Louieturkey on June 19, 2011, 12:35:32 AM
Nintendo will do what the 3rd parties do this generation as they want to cater to them. If they undercut the 3rd parties, the 3rd parties will not want to make games for the WiiU.
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Post by: JasonMaivia on June 19, 2011, 01:56:07 AM
I think they'll be at $60. I don't like it, but it probably will. Just looking at the retail prices set for 3DS games vs DS games will give you an idea about what I mean.
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Post by: Shaymin on June 19, 2011, 01:55:35 PM
They'll go to $60, which I'm already used to paying for 1st party Nintendo games.
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Post by: alegoicoe on June 19, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
If they are ps3 quality titles or better, they will probably go for 60 bucks.
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Post by: nickmitch on June 19, 2011, 03:33:50 PM
We seriously need to see more variable pricing in the market.
In a sense we already do. DL only games come cheaper than retail games, and indie games are cheaper even amongst the DL only games. I think the main reason we don't see any real variance is because in the retail space, being a $40 game next to a $60 game just makes your game look cheap and inferior. Even if such a pricepoint is totally justified in terms of game quality and development costs, most publishers just don't have the balls. The other reason is of course that the cheaper to make games have to sell high to compensate for the big budget, low profit games.
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Post by: ThePerm on June 19, 2011, 08:52:07 PM
its a myth that games cost more to make because they have HD visuals. If anything the more power the system has the easier it is to make games, because you can be kinda lazy with great results. It takes longer to work around lmitations.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: SixthAngel on June 19, 2011, 09:46:22 PM
If Nintendo wants to court third parties they have to sell games at $60. Every third party game will miss the Wiiu or be released on it late if they give third parties less money per sale. We all asked for Nintendo to go down this route and there are going to be some negative consequences too.
I think there will be more variable pricing with the WiiU than the competion's though so I could see Nintendo published games being slightly cheaper . I can't look it up right now but I think that was the case on the DS much of the time. Can anybody confirm it?
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on June 19, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
I don't think you can boil it down to HD visuals = more money. It's more complex than that. If you look at HD games, when compared to the preceding generation...
1) The game worlds are larger 2) The character models are more detailed 3) The games themselves are more feature-rich (single-player and multi-player, online, etc.)
What this means is that you need to hire more front-line people (artists, designers, modelers, testers, etc.) to do all the work that's required in, say, a two-year period of time. I don't think that the quality of the visuals themselves are really that big a deal, but it's more the scope of these projects and the timelines that they're on.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: SixthAngel on June 19, 2011, 10:37:40 PM
1) The game worlds are larger 2) The character models are more detailed 3) The games themselves are more feature-rich (single-player and multi-player, online, etc.)
1 is simply not true. The most obvious example being GTA4 which was much smaller than San Andreas.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 19, 2011, 10:47:32 PM
1) The game worlds are larger 2) The character models are more detailed 3) The games themselves are more feature-rich (single-player and multi-player, online, etc.)
1 is simply not true. The most obvious example being GTA4 which was much smaller than San Andreas.
Even so, you can always double down on #2 Character models and Environments and the things in them are much more detailed. that includes physics, animations, textures, lighting and a variety of other effects that need to be tweaked to look right and realistic.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: SixthAngel on June 19, 2011, 11:29:55 PM
Even so, you can always double down on #2 Character models and Environments and the things in them are much more detailed. that includes physics, animations, textures, lighting and a variety of other effects that need to be tweaked to look right and realistic.
I agree. I think that is responsible for 95% of the budget increase on the HD consoles. I also don't see them being much more feature rich either. More games do include multiplayer now but that is hardly an excuse for all games to raise in price since these new mulitplayer games are far outnumbered by the kind of multiplayer games (especially FPS) we had before and they still went up in price. I think there are other miscellaneous factors like constant voice acting (and stupidly hiring movie stars) that have jacked up the prices as well but are relatively small compared to #2.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 19, 2011, 11:53:15 PM
Third parties are going to charge $60, and if Nintendo's serious about attracting third parties, who have complained in the past about having to compete with Nintendo's software, I doubt Nintendo's going to make that even more of an issue by charging $10 less than them.
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Post by: ThePerm on June 19, 2011, 11:57:45 PM
yeah, that would be the reason for the prices to jump back up to $60. If 3rd parties want it then maybe Nintendo will cater, this is Nintendo however....
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Ceric on June 20, 2011, 12:14:58 PM
If Nintendo keeps with their "Right Price" mentality then seeing all Nintendo games at $60 would be a mistake.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 20, 2011, 12:29:38 PM
My prediction:
Core games will be $60 (Super Mario, Metroid, Fire Emblem, etc etc.)
Casual & Youth aimed games will be $50 (uSports Resort, uFit, Kirby's Playland, etc etc.)
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 20, 2011, 01:25:07 PM
I think most games will be $50 again as a starting price with possible lower price for some games.Things like RE4 was this gen. Things like that will be lowered price.Basicallly ports will be lower and new games will be $50.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: MorbidGod on June 20, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
I feel like Nintendo will set their games at $50, but most 3rd parties will release at $60 since they'd have more of an "across the board" incentive. If Nintendo could keep all games at $50, then that would be a huge push to capture PS360 owners.
That be the worst choice ever. Nintendo all ready outshines everyone else on their consoles why increase that by making first party games cheaper? I know ur talking the company has a choice, but its not really a choice because being more expensive is not a good thing !!
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Ceric on June 20, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
3rd Parties will price like Nintendo Prices. They have to. Though they may just chose not to bring a game over. The lower price is an advantage they should strive to keep. Which may mean less licensing fee for them.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: nickmitch on June 20, 2011, 09:08:37 PM
its a myth that games cost more to make because they have HD visuals. If anything the more power the system has the easier it is to make games, because you can be kinda lazy with great results. It takes longer to work around lmitations.
That's not what I was trying to imply, but to build on what others have said, generally games like Gears of War tend to spend much more time in development and involve higher quality (read: actually famous) voice actors. It's often the little things that drive costs.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: nickmitch on June 20, 2011, 09:11:28 PM
I feel like Nintendo will set their games at $50, but most 3rd parties will release at $60 since they'd have more of an "across the board" incentive. If Nintendo could keep all games at $50, then that would be a huge push to capture PS360 owners.
That be the worst choice ever. Nintendo all ready outshines everyone else on their consoles why increase that by making first party games cheaper? I know ur talking the company has a choice, but its not really a choice because being more expensive is not a good thing !!
It wouldn't be the first time 3rd parties shot themselves in the foot on a Nintendo system.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 20, 2011, 11:35:59 PM
More like it wouldn't be the first time Nintendo made one big error that killed third party support.
Look, I'd love for $50 to be the max again, but third parties are used to charging $60 for games built for this kind of hardware. If Nintendo puts them in the position of choosing between A. charging less on Wii U or B. charging $10 more than the already-more-popular-on-Nintendo-systems first party titles, a lot of them are going to go with option C, and not support the platform.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Mop it up on June 21, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
This is a case where what I want to happen and what I think will happen are two different things. Nintendo is likely going to go with $60, not because third-parties want it, but because Nintendo will think they can get away with it now that the system is in HD, just like the other two. What should really happen though, is to have varying pricing, with games being priced at what they are worth like Nintendo claims games should be. Some of the games Nintendo have released on the Wii simply don't contain enough content to be worth the standard price of $50 or would-be $60, such as Punch-Out!! and Sin and Punishment 2.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 21, 2011, 12:55:06 AM
Variable pricing is where the entire industry needs to go, but until that happens Nintendo has to charge 60 for big name titles for this to work.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Mop it up on June 21, 2011, 01:03:42 AM
How will the industry reach variable pricing if a big company like Nintendo isn't the first one to get there? Someone has to make that first step.
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Post by: broodwars on June 21, 2011, 01:09:07 AM
How will the industry reach variable pricing if a big company like Nintendo isn't the first one to get there? Someone has to make that first step.
Actually, it'll probably happen when the direct-download games start having equal pull in the industry as the retail games, which we're starting to see signs of now but won't likely happen for a long time. Unfortunately, right now we seem to stuck on a "one price fits all" model at retail, with rare exceptions.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Ceric on June 21, 2011, 09:26:47 AM
Look at PCs. Especially someplace like Steam. PC game prices are highly variable compared to all other medias.
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Post by: SixthAngel on June 21, 2011, 09:59:38 AM
Didn't DS games have variable prices? Nintendo has done it before.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: nickmitch on June 21, 2011, 01:19:53 PM
More like it wouldn't be the first time Nintendo made one big error that killed third party support.
Look, I'd love for $50 to be the max again, but third parties are used to charging $60 for games built for this kind of hardware. If Nintendo puts them in the position of choosing between A. charging less on Wii U or B. charging $10 more than the already-more-popular-on-Nintendo-systems first party titles, a lot of them are going to go with option C, and not support the platform.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Morari on June 21, 2011, 03:23:10 PM
Look at PCs. Especially someplace like Steam. PC game prices are highly variable compared to all other medias.
Even for physical media, you never see PC games released for over $50... unless it's console trash that no one really wants, like Call of Duty.
Not tha point I was making but, since you openned that can of worms. Anyone remember back in the days of Floppy where Computers really shined for game experiences? It would not be unheard of to see an $80 game for PC back then which adjusted for inflation... be the Equivalent of ~120 bucks.
No one would pay that much for a PC game anymore though people will pay vastly more than that for Productivity software. I mean Adobe CS5 Creative Suite Student Edition is $455 on Amazon. Not to mention having a setup that will make that software not clunk around.
PC Software prices wildly swing around even in the gaming arena. I mean to get fully into WoW cost $86 in software alone. Thats not taking in account $15 a month subscription (or $12 if you do it 6 months at a time.) Though you can find really compelling experience for Free on the computer. I do agree though prices in general on PC releases have gone down and stabilized generally under $50.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: broodwars on June 21, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
IMO, you see more variable pricing on PC because if the games weren't priced like that, the PC gamers would just steal them. But like Ceric noted, you still see plenty of software on PC that's charged at or above console game prices, as well as plenty of games that cost less at the outset but charge a continual subscription fee, so it's more expensive in the end.
>howzabout no on the name calling?<
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 21, 2011, 08:09:56 PM
Look at PCs. Especially someplace like Steam. PC game prices are highly variable compared to all other medias.
Even for physical media, you never see PC games released for over $50... unless it's console trash that no one really wants, like Call of Duty.
I was surprised by how different the user reviews are on Amazon for the PC version of COD games versus the console version. The reviews for the console versions of COD are usually overwhelmingly positive, but the PC version reviews are overwhelmingly negative. Its weird because its supposed to be the same game.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 21, 2011, 08:29:42 PM
Look at PCs. Especially someplace like Steam. PC game prices are highly variable compared to all other medias.
Even for physical media, you never see PC games released for over $50... unless it's console trash that no one really wants, like Call of Duty.
I was surprised by how different the user reviews are on Amazon for the PC version of COD games versus the console version. The reviews for the console versions of COD are usually overwhelmingly positive, but the PC version reviews are overwhelmingly negative. Its weird because its supposed to be the same game.
That's because Hell hath no fury like a PC gamer who thinks his game has been ruined by concessions made in a game for console players. Elite PC gamers believe their games would have larger maps, faster load times, more options, and smoother gameplay if not for the low performance and clumsy controllers of consoles. And they're generally right.
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Post by: Morari on June 21, 2011, 08:44:10 PM
Don't forget that PC gamers remember a time when the FPS genre was actually fun, instead of all generic military shooters.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 21, 2011, 08:51:05 PM
Don't forget that PC gamers remember a time when the FPS genre was actually fun, instead of all generic military shooters.
I wouldn't mind military shooters so much if they weren't all trying to copy one another and if they would try to explore different eras of history besides just WW2 and modern warfare. I want to see a Medieval Warfare with bows and crossbows and swords and ****.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Morari on June 21, 2011, 08:51:47 PM
IMO, you see more variable pricing on PC because if the games weren't priced like that, the PC gamers would just steal them.
Just like any console gamer would. It's far easier to pop in a modchip or flash your optical drive's firmware than it is to disable SecuROM, juggle virtual disc drives, apply cracked executables, and find private servers to play on.
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But like Ceric noted, you still see plenty of software on PC that's charged at or above console game prices, as well as plenty of games that cost less at the outset but charge a continual subscription fee, so it's more expensive in the end.
More expensive in the end? Hardly! In this case, we're talking about World of Warcraft. MMOs are the exception to the rule when it comes to monthly fees (which the rare console MMO also has, ontop of things like Xbox Live). Let's also not forget that Warcraft has several expansion packs factored into that cost. Those are add-ons that would have be separate, full-priced sequels on any console.
What Celtic pointed out is no less true for consoles. I remember seeing plenty of SNES games retailing for $70-$80 back in the day.
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Post by: broodwars on June 21, 2011, 08:52:13 PM
Don't forget that PC gamers remember a time when the FPS genre was actually fun, instead of all generic military shooters.
Yeah, remember when we didn't have all those soldiers or space marine FPS games like Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Battlefield, Medal of Honor- OH WAIT.
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Post by: Ceric on June 21, 2011, 09:34:35 PM
Yeah but your forgetting ones like Serious Sam. Their have been different medieval and magic FPSs on PC. Then their is also the whole mod seen. I mean literally the only reason I owned a copy of Half Life was for Counter Strike.
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Post by: oohhboy on June 21, 2011, 10:09:18 PM
Don't forget that PC gamers remember a time when the FPS genre was actually fun, instead of all generic military shooters.
I wouldn't mind military shooters so much if they weren't all trying to copy one another and if they would try to explore different eras of history besides just WW2 and modern warfare. I want to see a Medieval Warfare with bows and crossbows and swords and ****.
Actually this game (http://www.taleworlds.com/) will met all your barbaric needs. Mount and Blade will have you ask what is best in life and you will reply "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women." It can be played completely in first person and has all the "Medieval Warfare with bows and crossbows and swords and ****." This game will never go to console.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Ian Sane on June 22, 2011, 12:35:58 PM
Most third party games are going to be multiplatform. It seems very unlikely that we would see the same game released on all three systems but with the Wii U version being $10 less so the price for most games will be $60.
What's funny is that while complaints are made about PS360 games being more expensive, they really aren't in the long run. Games on those systems drop in price fairly quickly so it isn't hard to find titles that are about a year old for $30. But since most of the good Wii games are first party they stay at $50 forever.
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Post by: Ceric on June 22, 2011, 12:43:35 PM
Most third party games are going to be multiplatform. It seems very unlikely that we would see the same game released on all three systems but with the Wii U version being $10 less so the price for most games will be $60.
What's funny is that while complaints are made about PS360 games being more expensive, they really aren't in the long run. Games on those systems drop in price fairly quickly so it isn't hard to find titles that are about a year old for $30. But since most of the good Wii games are first party they stay at $50 forever.
You know I own a PS3 and everyone keeps saying that but, I have yet to find that particular fact to be true. Can people link me a series of good games that dropped price like that? I wanted the second Ratchet and Clank on the PS3, I got the first with the newest Dual Shock in blue it was only 10 more then the game alone, but, I have never got it because it only this year got to $30.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 22, 2011, 01:10:06 PM
Yeah, unfortunately I think first party games will be listed at $50, and 3rd party at 60 dollars as well. That seems to be where the industry is going as much as I don't like it. I wouldn't even guarantee the $50 price tag for Nintendo since they are showing with 3DS they have no problem raising the prices to $40 for handheld games.
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Post by: Adrock on June 22, 2011, 01:11:36 PM
I got the Game of the Year edition of Uncharted 2 for $30 new about 16 months after the game was first release. It typically depends on the game. I recently got Dead Space 2 for $40 a few weeks ago and that came out in January. I don't believe it was a special sale because it was still $40 as of Saturday.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 22, 2011, 01:20:58 PM
Iwata talks about WiiU How it came to be, 3rd Party Devs & Game Pricing http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/35336/Iwata_Wii_U_Planning_Started_Immediately_After_Wii_Release.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/35336/Iwata_Wii_U_Planning_Started_Immediately_After_Wii_Release.php) <snip>
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"I think there is already some indication that the [current pricing] trend is going to stay here," he says. "When you consider some of the most popular franchise – such as Call of Duty or Madden - the publishers can afford to affix a rather expensive price tag on that because the franchise has a premium value. On the other hand, … without an established franchise, they cannot afford to keep that expensive price tag. I believe there will be a wider price range."
Some games may cost $60 and other may not. As I "predicted" in the other thread, "Core franchises might cost HD premium while Casual/Youth/Family games may range from standard to budget pricing"
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Post by: Despicable on June 22, 2011, 02:51:24 PM
Of what I understand the Wii U is just a new controller with a touch screen maybe not though. If it is also a system probably $60 since the games are HD now. ;)
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Post by: Oblivion on June 22, 2011, 02:59:13 PM
^Are you kidding? It's a completely new system. Where have you been this past month?
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Post by: Ceric on June 22, 2011, 03:03:35 PM
^Reading Mainstream News no doubt.
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Post by: ThePerm on June 22, 2011, 05:22:46 PM
so i guess it depends on the game, from what Iwata says top franchises like Madden would most likely be $60 while unestablished titles might be a lower price. This works quite well because it will let developers gage sales without taking a huge risk.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Mop it up on June 22, 2011, 06:52:36 PM
Didn't DS games have variable prices? Nintendo has done it before.
As far as I know, they weren't more varying than Wii games, which has an odd game here and there that was not $50. Besides Super Mario 64 DS which is $30, what Nintendo-published DS game didn't launch at $35?
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Post by: Shaymin on June 22, 2011, 06:54:50 PM
Professor Layton 1 and 3 were $29.99. 2 was $34.99 for some reason that I'm still trying to parse.
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Post by: Stogi on June 29, 2011, 10:18:05 PM
Developer's should include all versions of the game on one disc. /Blew your mind
I still remember the N64 days where games were 70 bucks.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 29, 2011, 11:00:44 PM
Developer's should include all versions of the game on one disc. /Blew your mind
I still remember the N64 days where games were 70 bucks.
I remember seeing some games priced $90 or $100 early on like in the first months after it launched.
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Post by: Shaymin on June 30, 2011, 06:35:07 PM
At the start? I paid near $100 for Pokemon Stadium 2 in 2001 when the system was DOA.
Looking back, maybe I should've put that toward my own Gamecube...
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Post by: Mop it up on June 30, 2011, 07:36:35 PM
The problem with the Nintendo 64 is that some stores charged more than the MSRP, probably due to razor-thin profit margins. This mostly happened around launch, taking advantage of the scarcity of the system and games. The MSRP for Nintendo-published titles was $59.99 until a couple years in, then when the PlayStation shot ahead most games were $49.99, with Player's Choice being $39.99. I can't really speak for third-party games since I bought mostly Nintendo titles when the Nintendo 64 was current, but I wouldn't be surprised if some companies charged more than $50 or even $60 due to the high royalties and manufacturing costs. I do know I never saw a game for more than $60 meself (Donkey Kong 64 excluded).
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Post by: Ceric on July 01, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
At the start? I paid near $100 for Pokemon Stadium 2 in 2001 when the system was DOA.
Looking back, maybe I should've put that toward my own Gamecube...
Just be comforted by the fact that they have not made a better series of that style of Pokemon game since.
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Post by: gillzManiju on July 01, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
I think normal games will be priced at $60 dollars. However, I think Nintendo plans to create an eshop like apple's app store to offer apps that can be as low as 99 cents. These casual games will complete with apple's games.
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Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: ymeegod on July 07, 2011, 01:09:29 AM
"Even for physical media, you never see PC games released for over $50... unless it's console trash that no one really wants, like Call of Duty."
Actually alot more PC releases have been selling at $60 now too. Basically if you look at all the big upcoming games like Battlefield 3, Rage, and Skyrim they all have $60 MSRP.
But the funny thing is when was the last time you bought an $60 game? Most retailers have been competing for your business for awhile now so most new games are like $40-45 after some type of store credit rebate. Most games have an markup of $20-25 bucks so the retailers are just selling the game at cost.
And point number two, $60 isn't much at all. In other regions like Japan they are paying $70 for freaking 3DS titles and $90 for PS3 titles.
We have it easy =0.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 08, 2011, 01:52:44 AM
In addition to everything else that's been said, I'll point out that, because of inflation, $60 now is actually less money than $50 ten years ago.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 08, 2011, 07:24:00 AM
Taking into account the inflation, the fact Nintendo loves to make money, and that the competition are already pricing things at $60 I think its very likely Nintendo is going to do that as well. Naturally, I would like games to be priced as low as possible, but logic tells me that's not going to happen.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Morari on July 08, 2011, 11:03:26 AM
In addition to everything else that's been said, I'll point out that, because of inflation, $60 now is actually less money than $50 ten years ago.
It sure isn't "less money" when wages fail to keep up with the cost of living. Welcome to America.
It's still less money, you're just also making less money.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 09, 2011, 12:25:13 AM
Wages aren't falling. The Minimum wage was raised just a few years ago. But raising the minimum wage is kinda like a dog chasing its tail because every time its raised it makes inflation worse, so there's not much net gain to it.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 09, 2011, 12:38:50 AM
Less money in terms of real dollars. In nominal figures it's a bit more, or at least the same.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NeoStar9X on July 09, 2011, 10:46:49 AM
Amazon has several Wii U games for preorder. They're marked at $49.99.
Less money in terms of real dollars. In nominal figures it's a bit more, or at least the same.
That's why the government is focusing on the wrong thing when fighting poverty. Instead of increasing wages they should be fighting inflation instead so that whatever money people do have is worth more so their spending power is greater. Inflation is caused by the government spending money it doesn't have and printing money to compensate which causes it to devalue. Inflationary spending should be viewed as a tax, but its the worst kind of tax because it hits the poorest people the hardest and another thing about it is its kinda hidden so there's not much attention on it.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Ceric on July 09, 2011, 07:10:35 PM
Less money in terms of real dollars. In nominal figures it's a bit more, or at least the same.
That's why the government is focusing on the wrong thing when fighting poverty. Instead of increasing wages they should be fighting inflation instead so that whatever money people do have is worth more so their spending power is greater. Inflation is caused by the government spending money it doesn't have and printing money to compensate which causes it to devalue. Inflationary spending should be viewed as a tax, but its the worst kind of tax because it hits the poorest people the hardest and another thing about it is its kinda hidden so there's not much attention on it.
I can agree with this but, I will also note its not really the time for massive amount of Federal Job lost. Private is in no condition to soak that up.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 09, 2011, 11:32:11 PM
HEY! You people have been around long enough to know there's no political discussion 'round these parts. Don't make me say that again.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 09, 2011, 11:38:10 PM
Politics and the Economy are two different things. One effect games more.
They are two different things, but there is a significant amount of overlap. Economic discussion is fine, but people were starting to talk about what the government should be doing, which is squarely in the realm of politics.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 10, 2011, 08:23:06 PM
Economics is politics. The government plays a heavy role in it.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: stevey on July 10, 2011, 10:05:12 PM
Game should stay at $50. Mario is still Mario and Zelda is still Zelda regardless if it on the GC, Wii, or WiiU, why should I have to pay a more for the same damn thing?
Less money in terms of real dollars. In nominal figures it's a bit more, or at least the same.
That's why the government is focusing on the wrong thing when fighting poverty. Instead of increasing wages they should be fighting inflation instead so that whatever money people do have is worth more so their spending power is greater. Inflation is caused by the government spending money it doesn't have and printing money to compensate which causes it to devalue. Inflationary spending should be viewed as a tax, but its the worst kind of tax because it hits the poorest people the hardest and another thing about it is its kinda hidden so there's not much attention on it.
I wouldn't say inflation is directly and/or solely caused by governmental spending. Even if there are dramatic increases or decreases in governmental spending, it doesn't imply with certainty that there will be a similar change in the value of currency (immediately or in the long run). Japan's Yen is has managed to become stronger while they national debt has risen to 180% of their GDP (some of the highest levels in the world).
Deflation isn't necessarily better than inflation anyway. Sure the rich and upper middle get richer, but the lower class that has more debt than money gets screwed in the process. Their debt burdens become that much difficult to pay off due to no fault of their own, and since the current global financial meltdown is due to people that are unable to pay off their debt, making it harder would just cause an new crisis. And the national debt will become that much worst without even increasing numerically...
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 10, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
Game should stay at $50. Mario is still Mario and Zelda is still Zelda regardless if it on the GC, Wii, or WiiU, why should I have to pay a more for the same damn thing?
Because of HD.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 10, 2011, 11:32:18 PM
Game should stay at $50. Mario is still Mario and Zelda is still Zelda regardless if it on the GC, Wii, or WiiU, why should I have to pay a more for the same damn thing?
In addition to everything else that's been said, I'll point out that, because of inflation, $60 now is actually less money than $50 ten years ago.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 12, 2011, 03:57:04 PM
The goverment can help fight inflation, but they can't solely control it.
Anyways, Iwata already said that some Wii U (not sure why some write is as WiiU) games will cost more than the $50 price point that Wii games were at.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 12, 2011, 11:19:32 PM
I wouldn't be against paying $60 for a new console Zelda or Metroid, or certain Mario games (something more along the lines of Galaxy; certainly not New Super Mario Bros. Mii). I'd pay $60 for Pikmin 3, but I'd pay $160 for that if I had to.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Ceric on July 13, 2011, 09:41:56 AM
I wouldn't be against paying $60 for a new console Zelda or Metroid, or certain Mario games (something more along the lines of Galaxy; certainly not New Super Mario Bros. Mii). I'd pay $60 for Pikmin 3, but I'd pay $160 for that if I had to.
Don't you mean $360 or ~$396 here in Tennessee. That could be the only game on the WiiU and I know a Newscast worth of people+ who buy it.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 13, 2011, 11:57:01 AM
The Wii U could have only Pikmin 3 for the first six months of its life and get a price drop before any other games come out, and I'd still buy it at launch just for that.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: King of Twitch on July 13, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
Well that's because you're just a Pikmin whore. You'd probably give them a lap dance if you weren't afraid of squishing them.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Ceric on July 13, 2011, 12:22:04 PM
Well that's because you're just a Pikmin whore. You'd probably give them a lap dance if you weren't afraid of squishing them.
It could be like Land of the Giants (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062578/) so , in fact Pikmin are the size of 4-6 year olds.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Mop it up on July 13, 2011, 11:35:55 PM
These days, I rarely buy games at $50, so I doubt I'll be buying any at $60. If a majority of them end up being that price, I'll be waiting for sales and deals.
Title: Re: Will WiiU games be priced at $50 like the Wii, or $60 like PS360?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 16, 2011, 01:18:58 AM
These days, I rarely buy games at $50, so I doubt I'll be buying any at $60. If a majority of them end up being that price, I'll be waiting for sales and deals.
I've owned a PS3 since January and I've never once paid $59.99 for any game. The most I've paid was $45 when I got Black Ops on Amazon. So there is no reason to pay $60. All you have to do is wait a month or two and the price will drop. You only need to pay $60 if you absolutely must have the game on day one of release.
