Post by: Grey Ninja on May 05, 2003, 02:54:06 PM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/400/400780p1.html
Post by: Locke Cole on May 05, 2003, 02:56:59 PM
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 05, 2003, 03:13:39 PM
Post by: Locke Cole on May 05, 2003, 03:27:04 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 05, 2003, 03:30:01 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 05, 2003, 04:29:28 PM
Or has Konami said they don't want to reveal the platform until E3? Hmmmm.....
Post by: Locke Cole on May 05, 2003, 04:31:56 PM
Post by: KornWild on May 05, 2003, 04:34:07 PM
Post by: Strell on May 05, 2003, 04:54:57 PM
Remember when IGN showed off Planet Harriers way back when Sega was about to go third party? Remember how they said it would be shown at E3 and confirmed for GC?
Yea, me too.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 05, 2003, 04:58:03 PM
Anyway, here's my post from my thread:It appears that IGNCube has reported that Konami of America has made it official that Metal Gear Solid 3 will indeed be shown at E3. Normally I'd be excited since I own a PS2, but I wonder why IGNCube would bother reporting a game that is, as far as we know, a PS2 exclusive. That started my gears cranking, wondering if IGN was dropping a hint that MGS3 is indeed coming to the Gamecube. I eventually wrote it off as Matt or Fran just getting excited about the game until I read the recently posted article on what Matt most wants to see at E3. If you'll read the article, he clear states he's excited about Metal Gear Solid 3, yet he DOESN'T say that in the paragraph where he details what PS2 titles he's looking forward to (he has individual paragraphs for XBox and PS2 games). So is IGN dropping *further* hints that Konami will be releasing Metal Gear Solid 3 on the Gamecube? Does IGN know something we don't? It would seem entirely plausible now- after all, Konami did allow a Nintedo second party to remake one of it's classics. Who says Nintendo and Konami's relationship hasn't delved even further? Or perhaps maybe Matt is just speculating, as he has done so in the past. However, it seems that is not so, at least to me. I hope we'll find out at E3.
As you've read, Matt also dropped a hint in his article on upcoming E3 games. Interesting stuff.
Post by: Michael8983 on May 05, 2003, 05:01:31 PM
Post by: Christberg on May 05, 2003, 05:09:11 PM
I hope this is the plan, because that would be super sweet.
Post by: VideoGamerX on May 05, 2003, 07:08:34 PM
That doesn't seem so far fetched when you consider what someone else pointed out. With Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes hitting the Gamecube this year, if any other console besides PS2 gets MGS3, it'll probably be the GC. I don't know how well Substance did on Xbox. It wouldn't be far fetched if MGS3 landed on all three consoles.
I'd cross my fingers Gamecube isn't the last console to get it. If it is, don't expect it to sell well. I hate seeing that trend continue.
Post by: Arbok on May 05, 2003, 07:59:11 PM
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My guess... Metal Gear Solid 3 is for Playstation 2 and Gamecube and NOT Xbox.
Don't shoot the messenger... but I recall it being mentioned that Microsoft gave Konami a money hat to make sure that MGS3 hits the Xbox first for several months before appearing on other systems. I think this happend shortly after Konami announced that Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance would not be released on the Xbox in Japan, seems that forced MS to do what it does best... throw money at companies to get what they want.
I hope I am wrong, but just do a quick search on Google and you can find sites mentioning the money hat that MS gave Konami. One example here:
http://www.mgs2online.com/news/43.htm
Just wanted to warn people before they get their hopes up.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 05, 2003, 08:08:14 PM
If we want MGS to do well, we should go out and buy like 2 or 3 copies of MGS3, just so we can prove how much we love the fact they've brought it over to Cube.
Yeah right.
They should take this sort of stuff into account and not expect astronomical sales all the time. That said, I think MGS remake will do well, in GCN terms. I'll buy it definitely.
Post by: MysticGohan on May 05, 2003, 09:07:50 PM
Don't quote me but I strongly beleive that's the case as of sales recently.
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 05, 2003, 10:11:06 PM
But yes, I would be willing to put money on Metal Gear Solid 3 being shown for GameCube at E3. I think it goes without saying that it will be available on PS2 and Xbox as well, but at this point it seems VERY likely to be available on GameCube as well.
Personally, I could care less that MGS2 didn't come out on GameCube, and I am sure as hell renting MGS3 before buying it, but I am happy all the same.
Post by: MysticGohan on May 05, 2003, 10:21:33 PM
Grey Ninja you like the Sprite ad eh? You've seen the 7UP commercials lately? lol I like the one when the guy is talking about people drinking bottled water and looks for why. Seeing a bear taking a dump in the river and farting
lol for a cleaner drink, drink 7up
Post by: Segnit BGS on May 05, 2003, 10:45:34 PM
Post by: nonjagged on May 05, 2003, 11:30:18 PM
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Haha. I just posted my thoughts about this on the MGS thread. I think it's pretty weird. Does anybody know if MGS3 is DEFINITELY going to PS2? If it is, they why a story on IGNCube? Hmmmm......
Or has Konami said they don't want to reveal the platform until E3? Hmmmm.....
MGS3 is a time exclusive multi-platform title (remember Konami made huge losses in their sports equipment franchises and are willing to pull their finger out and support Nintendo platforms now to regain losses) and MGS3 will come out on PS2 first for a while, followed by PC & Xbox launches and lastly on GCN however expect GCN version to have token gifts by Konami such as GBA linkup and possible NES version unlockeables or something to keep Nintendo userbase satisfied for waiting last.
Oh and it will be interesting to see what Konami trailer previews will come with the GCN version of MGS3?
Winning Eleven?
That Exclusive GCN title thats never been officially confirmed? The name of title is eluding me at the moment (hangover).
A Castlevania PS2 port?
A Contra PS2 port?
Interesting indeed.
2003 = Nintendo's most successful E3 ever (well until Nintendo launches its franchises Online in the future when technology is favourable to do so).
Post by: Mario on May 06, 2003, 12:40:19 AM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 06, 2003, 12:46:09 AM
Is there a game called Metal Gear 3 on NES? Or is this some indication of something happening within the bowels of Nintendo HQ?
Oh, and what the hell is Planet Poch? It's in the title bar.
Post by: Berbs42 on May 06, 2003, 06:12:16 AM
I'll have to check that out.
As far as the entire issue goes.... yep... freaky.
Hope it's a hint at things to come.... What else do we have but hope?
- Berbs
Post by: Berbs42 on May 06, 2003, 06:20:32 AM
My sytems a little slow so as www.metalgear3.com loaded, I could see that it it finished quickly with a blank screen, then loaded http://www.gamecube.com/index.jsp which took just a second (again another blank screen), and finally loaded http://www.nintendo.com/systems/gcn/index.jsp
So I guess the question still is: Who registered the MetalGear3 page?
Post by: The Omen on May 06, 2003, 06:58:25 AM
Post by: godwheel on May 06, 2003, 06:59:33 AM
Lasa Jose Mari (lasajo0-org)
Paseo de los Olmos n3
20016, San Sebastian
ES
Registrar....: Nordnet
Web..........: http://www.nordnet.net
Whois........: whois.nordnet.net
Domain Name: metalgear3.com
Record last updated on 2002-May-28
Record expires on 2003-Jun-02
Record created on 2000-Jun-02
It has been registered for a while guys... from someone in SPAIN.
So, that's that.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 06, 2003, 07:25:19 AM
The fact that IGNCube is covering MGS3 is pretty strange since up till now everyone assumed the title was a PS2 exclusive. Since IGNPS2 also has the story I figure it's either now multiplatform or IGNCube is speculating on rumours. MGS3 has been rumoured for Cube for a while. I guess we should just wait for E3.
"I think Konami should expect average sales of MGS3 if they release it on GCN compared to PS2. Obviously, people who loved MGS would have bought a PS2, like my friend did."
Good point. The Resident Evil series is different because the original RE titles are Gamecube exclusive. People only have to buy a Cube to play RE games (excluding spinoffs). In this situation an original MGS title has already been released on the PS2 so the bulk of the fanbase already owns a PS2. If they switched platforms it would probably hurt sales. There is however also the factor of MGS fans who would be willing to buy a Cube solely for MGS3 if it were exclusive.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on May 06, 2003, 10:16:17 AM
This might be far fetched, but that remake deal is really fishy, why a remake, why? They might as well start a whole new MGS for GCN but strangely its a remake of the first one, similar to the Resident Evil deal, with remakes, ports and new exlusives.
Post by: Berbs42 on May 06, 2003, 11:03:51 AM
I, for one, CERTAINLY didn't think about that.
I definately would dream of something along those lines happening, but...
I highly doubt it.
What happened to the headline at CUBE.ign.com? I went back a short while ago, and it was nowhere to be found.
Did anyone bookmark it by chance? If so, does the link still work?
- Berbs
(you know what "they" say, hope for the best.... expect the worst)
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 06, 2003, 11:31:02 AM
1) Konami threatened to flick IGN off the face of the earth if they didn't take it down or...
2) IGN is made up of a bunch of morons and they found out that the game isn't coming to the GC
They both have an equal possibility of being true
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 06, 2003, 12:36:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
The article being gone could mean two things...
1) Konami threatened to flick IGN off the face of the earth if they didn't take it down or...
2) IGN is made up of a bunch of morons and they found out that the game isn't coming to the GC
They both have an equal possibility of being true
LMFAO! I hear that man.
I remember a while back that MGS3 was promised a limited exclusivity thingy for Xbox. It could be that the PS2 and GCN versions would come out at the same time 6 months later (ala Splinter Cell, but hopefully a more refined game.)
Post by: MysticGohan on May 06, 2003, 01:00:32 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 06, 2003, 01:06:13 PM
IGN's site sucks, and simply isn't displaying the news on the main page anymore. The link I supplied in the first post still works good.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 06, 2003, 01:28:06 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on May 06, 2003, 01:34:35 PM
I think money has gotten to their heads, I hear the dot coms are looking to rebound due to more advertising from big investors. So thing's will improve since the drought that started a few yrs ago.
Post by: nolimit19 on May 06, 2003, 02:05:19 PM
Post by: greenwood on May 06, 2003, 08:09:48 PM
If Konami wants MGS3 to sell well then it's going to be on the PS2 first. I'm not dismissing simultaneous releases on either GCN or Xbox (or both) but the money is with the PS2. It's possible MS could toss Konami a wad of cash for first rights but I doubt they would go for it. The game would sell horribly in Japan so MS would have to throw Konami a ton of cash.
I agree with the festering 'roid but most likely on a smaller scale. MGS:TTS on GCN, then perhaps MGS2:S and maybe MGS3. This is Konami remember and if TTS doesn't sell really well they may reconsider.
One thing that intrigues me, though, and leads credence to more MGS love for the GCN is the fact that MGS:TTS is developed by SK which most likely means the game will remain exclusive no matter what happens, similar to Rare and Conker, unless Konami wants to pony up the cash.
Having a Nintendo 2nd party do this suggests that Nintendo and Konami are growing closer so maybe Konami will port over some of their other games like Castlevania (which will hopefully be good).
Post by: MysticGohan on May 06, 2003, 08:50:53 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 06, 2003, 08:58:48 PM
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It better be, Contra on the PSX sucked big time. This could also go the way of RE. Seems a pattern is following, Trying to introduce the MGS series on GC and what better why to start that of than a remake of the original MGS. Although one still has to wonder what does the referrence of Twin Snakes in the title means. There's got to be something other than Solid and Liquid being in the game.
Yeah that is a cool theory and I'm glad we are getting an upgraded version of MGS....but if thats the case I rather that they start at the original Metal Gear. I can barely remember the game and an all new version of it would be like a new game. Come to think of it I have a better idea.....why don't they remake the 8 bit Metal Gear titles on GBA with connectivity to the GC MGS titles
At the very least, since they are remaking MGS, they could remake Metal Gear: Ghost Babel for GC for GBA to connect to MGS:TS. I still don't like how they called Ghost Babel, Metal Gear Solid in the US....they could have at least called it Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel....sigh but thats another issue all together.Darc Requiem
Post by: ThePerm on May 06, 2003, 09:12:56 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on May 06, 2003, 09:12:57 PM
But I figure there has to be some added plots that will be implemented. Although someone mentioned you could play as Liquid and see it through his eyes. But the problem with that is who will Liquid be up against? just Soild won't do, hmmm unless Liquid has his own personal bit in the game that takes place somewhere else / or how'll he took over Moses island.It would be way cool to play as Ninja
Post by: MysticGohan on May 06, 2003, 09:16:37 PM
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i dont know about that webspace....seems fishy.
What you mean IGN?
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 09, 2003, 08:27:14 PM
EDIT: A small worry... I just remembered how freaking cool the MGS2 trailer was...
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