Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 01, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
Miyamoto mentions that he is working on a new Mario game for the system.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/25001
The latest Iwata Asks column gathers the original Super Mario Bros. development team: Shigeru Miyamoto, Koji Kondo, Takashi Tezuka, and Toshihiko Nakago to talk about the development of the original Super Mario Bros. game in honor of the series' 25th anniversary. Near the end of the column, Miyamoto mentions that his team is working on a new Super Mario Bros. game for the 3DS as a means of adopting new technology for the Super Mario Bros. tradition.
The comments go as follow:
Miyamoto: Yes. So, in the interests of adopting new technology for the Super Mario Bros. tradition, I am now making a new Super Mario Bros. game for the Nintendo 3DS system.
Iwata: The next stage for the Super Mario Bros. Preservation Society’s activities is the Nintendo 3DS.
Miyamoto: Yes. (laughs) I want to show everyone as soon as possible what the new Super Mario Bros. will be like on the Nintendo 3DS.
Whether the game will play similarly to the recent New Super Mario Bros. side-scrolling games on the DS and Wii or will be a 3D platforming game like Super Mario Galaxy wasn't discussed.
Post by: Ryan Cannon on February 01, 2011, 03:35:42 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2011, 03:40:13 PM
p.s. That is also much more than a hint. I would even go as far as to call it an announcement.
edit: I also wouldn't be surprised if this is the big Holiday 2011 3DS Title
Post by: MegaByte on February 01, 2011, 03:45:32 PM
It'll probably be 2D side scrolling, being that they are calling it "New Super Mario Bros."Subtle, but he called it "a new Super Mario Bros. game" not "New Super Mario Bros."
Post by: Bman87301 on February 01, 2011, 04:26:55 PM
It'll probably be 2D side scrolling, being that they are calling it "New Super Mario Bros."Subtle, but he called it "a new Super Mario Bros. game" not "New Super Mario Bros."
True, the "new" wasn't capitalized... But keep in mind this is a transcript, so how it was typed out was merely just the transcriber's personal interpretation. There's no way to know for sure what Miyamoto had in mind when he said it based on the quote. Though I personally think the fact that he said "Super Mario Bros." and not just "Super Mario", makes it almost certain that he was implying a 2D side-scroller.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 01, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
I wish Nintendo would get on a SNES fix for a change. The 16-bit era had many of the same types of games as the 8-bit era but with more refinement.
Post by: AV on February 01, 2011, 04:40:31 PM
Post by: Deezer on February 01, 2011, 04:45:20 PM
But keep in mind this is a transcript, so how it was typed out was merely just the transcriber's personal interpretation. There's no way to know for sure what Miyamoto had in mind when he said it based on the quote.Does anyone have a link to the Japanese interview? I was looking for NCL's Super Mario 25th site earlier but couldn't find it. (Used to be at http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario25th/index.html)
Post by: Adrock on February 01, 2011, 04:48:42 PM
i would love to see them use Super Mario 2 as the template. I think subcon is a rich universe that hasn't been tappedSuper Mario Bros. 2: A Game by Christopher Nolan (http://www.dorkly.com/comic/2520/super-mario-inception)
Post by: MegaByte on February 01, 2011, 05:04:45 PM
Does anyone have a link to the Japanese interview? I was looking for NCL's Super Mario 25th site earlier but couldn't find it. (Used to be at http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario25th/index.html (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario25th/index.html))Sure, it's http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/interview/mario25th/vol5/index.html (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/interview/mario25th/vol5/index.html) (linked from the Iwata Asks section on the corporate page).
I think it's worth noting that they keep saying "Super Mario Bros." Not "Mario" or "Super Mario" but specifically "Super Mario Bros."
But keep in mind this is a transcript, so how it was typed out was merely just the transcriber's personal interpretation. There's no way to know for sure what Miyamoto had in mind when he said it based on the quote. Though I personally think the fact that he said "Super Mario Bros." and not just "Super Mario", makes it almost certain that he was implying a 2D side-scroller.In Japanese, he says "new 'Mario'" - "Super" is only mentioned the first time and "Bros." is not part of the text at all, confirming my assertion. These things are tightly controlled by Nintendo, so whatever they meant is what gets posted (in Japanese).
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
Post by: MegaByte on February 01, 2011, 05:14:33 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2011, 05:19:01 PM
It would be cool if they took some of the concepts from Super Paper Mario, but made a full-out platformer.
This is a fantastic idea.
Post by: ControlerFleX on February 01, 2011, 05:22:11 PM
But of course you loose the sweet "3D" spot with all that movin' around and who wants to play Mario with the thing sittin on a desk or table oh and since the 3D is not required.....blah blah blah.........
Post by: Mop it up on February 01, 2011, 05:31:02 PM
Though as was mentioned, it would be nice if they took some of the gameplay mechanics from Super Paper Mario. That game was so plain and didn't use the flip mechanic for anything worthwhile, so I'd like to see it revisited, there is a lot of potential there.
Post by: broodwars on February 01, 2011, 05:33:58 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2011, 05:42:51 PM
Since the 2D side-scrolling Mario games sell much better than 3D Mario games, it seems safe to say if there's a Mario game planned for 3DS, it won't feature 3D gameplay.
Though as was mentioned, it would be nice if they took some of the gameplay mechanics from Super Paper Mario. That game was so plain and didn't use the flip mechanic for anything worthwhile, so I'd like to see it revisited, there is a lot of potential there.
I don't have a link for this at the moment, but Miyamoto has already said they intend to do both 2D and 3D Mario on the 3DS, so there will definitely be 3D Mario; the question is which one will they start with. 3D Mario seems to be more likely to sell well when it doesn't have to compete with a 2D Mario, and like I said, it offers more opportunities to show off the hardware, which is more useful early in the system's life than later on. 3D Mario is also a novel concept on a handheld; there has never been a 3D Mario native to a handheld, and thus such a game would be a fresher concept than yet another New Super Mario Bros. In my opinion, there are more reasons to start with the 3D game and then move on to the 2D one than the other way around.
Post by: Mop it up on February 01, 2011, 05:48:19 PM
Post by: famicomplicated on February 01, 2011, 05:51:26 PM
In Japan New Super Mario Bros is called exactly that..New Super Mario Bros (just say it with Japanese Katakana-style English)
So when Miyamoto said "new Mario" he meant new, because the word for new (ATARASHII) in Japanese would never be confused for anything else.
Of course this all gets confusing when it's translated to English where "a New Mario" and "a new Mario" can easily be misunderstood, but in Japanese it's clear.... :D
Also, my 2 cents...I want a Super Mario Galaxy 3D. Imagine the spin move being on a button!
Post by: Ian Sane on February 01, 2011, 06:02:16 PM
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i would love to see them use Super Mario 2 as the template. I think subcon is a rich universe that hasn't been tapped
I think that's a great idea. I'm not even a big fan of SMB 2 but it would just be a breath of fresh air. Same with Zelda II. Here is a template you guys have not used in over 20 years and it becomes harder and harder to make new sequels stand out. It just seems like a no-brainer to give those templates a go.
I've also thought of the idea of a Mario game that combines both designs. So some enemies get crushed when you jump on them but some are unaffected and let you walk on top so you can throw them. Why not have a game that plays like traditional Mario but also allows the throwing mechanics from Super Mario 2?
Post by: MegaByte on February 01, 2011, 06:18:48 PM
Post by: circasurviver on February 01, 2011, 06:19:37 PM
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Also, my 2 cents...I want a Super Mario Galaxy 3D. Imagine the spin move being on a button!/quote]
you'll have to shake the 3DS
Post by: Ian Sane on February 01, 2011, 06:56:26 PM
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They did have that kind of stuff in the Super Mario Advance 4 e-levels, but that was a really limited release, and it's still ripe for exploration.
I wish Nintendo would re-release those levels together as a WiiWare title or something. These were the first new 2D Mario levels in years and I can't think of a more annoying and inconvenient way to have released them to their fans. So to obtain these levels I had to buy Super Mario Bros. 3, which I already own, and have an e-Reader and access to TWO GBAs and I have to buy these packs of cards and to truly get all the cards I would have to have bought the game at Wal-Mart which I don't think was common knowledge until AFTER the game had been released so I could very well have already bought it somewhere else and then to top it off Nintendo discontinues the e-Reader very shortly afterwards giving me this small period of time to accomplish all this. WHAT THE ****?!!
A Super Mario Bros 3 e-Reader collection for WiiWare or DSiWare would be such a must-buy.
Post by: MegaByte on February 01, 2011, 07:05:17 PM
Post by: King Bowser Koopa on February 01, 2011, 08:24:32 PM
While the interview does mention a "new Super Mario" on 3DS, it's not specifically mentioned with "Bros" at all, and the "new" itself, were it a "New Super Mario Bros" would have been listed as the title and put in English using katakana - "Nyuu" as is listed in plain English on the Japanese box art for both New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros Wii.
Instead, they use the Japanese adjective for "new", as a "new Super Mario game". The non-capitalized new in the translation was correct.
So, "transcriber's interpretation" be buggered. Just the fact that there's gonna be a new Mario game is enough info, and we knew this was gonna happen anyway.
Post by: MegaByte on February 01, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
Post by: Bman87301 on February 02, 2011, 11:13:33 AM
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 02, 2011, 11:26:36 AM
Post by: MegaByte on February 02, 2011, 12:08:50 PM
Post by: Bman87301 on February 02, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
Well, the whole article was about Super Mario Bros. and its follow-ups. Miyamoto probably doesn't play a huge role in the development of Paper Mario.
What exactly has been revealed about this "Paper Mario" game? I haven't really been following it... I know by the screen shots that it's clearly not a port of the N64 original, but is it the 3rd 'Paper Mario' RPG? Or is it a 2nd 'Super Paper Mario' platformer? Has it even been revealed? Does anyone know? If it's a 'Super Paper Mario'-type game, which is more based off of SMB, it certainly could relate as being a followup.
Post by: King Bowser Koopa on February 03, 2011, 12:38:02 AM
That's what I get for seeing something that sparks my interest and then scrolling to the "Add Reply" button.
