Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2011, 06:58:40 AM
Title: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2011, 06:58:40 AM
We've seen a few discouraging things about the 3DS recently, from the lower than expected battery life to the lack of much first party software at launch, and now the news that the eShop isn't coming until May. I've seen a lot of people who had previously intended to pick one up right away now saying they're going to hold off. Who here is still planning to buy the system at launch despite all that?
I still definitely intend to grab one on day one. I figure the price isn't going down any time soon, and I'd definitely end up buying it fairly soon anyway, so I'm just going to get it at launch. It doesn't hurt that my birthday is in March, so I won't have any issue with the price. There are a few games I'm interested in coming out in the launch window, and while none of them are things I'd have too much trouble waiting for, there's something to be said for the feeling of being there on day one.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: ShyGuy on February 01, 2011, 07:37:28 AM
Not I said the pig.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Morari on February 01, 2011, 10:04:07 AM
Nope.
Over priced system? Check. Over priced games? Check. Features useless 3D gimmick? Check.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Shredder5655 on February 01, 2011, 10:10:38 AM
ONLY if the Gameboy Virtual Console is 3DS only....
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 01, 2011, 10:32:43 AM
Originally I shared the opinion that the console is too expensive, the games are disappointing, and the battery life is terrible...and I still feel that way. However, I honestly can't see myself waiting long enough for an update or price drop. I know I will cave, so there's no point in losing a few months of play time for no reason. The e-Shop and great games will come before a price drop, and my iPod has taught me how to live with short battery life. Besides there will probably be a third party solution to that problem and if it really turns out to be a hassle extra batteries are usually pretty cheap. I predict I'll just learn to live with it though.
Edit: I should mention that if the games are all $40-50 that will likely dissuade me. It might be foolish but I'm still hoping for $30-40. Most DS games were $30 at launch and a $20 increase seems unreasonable.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Caliban on February 01, 2011, 10:57:33 AM
Not I.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on February 01, 2011, 11:31:19 AM
I will be buying. Since the announcement of price and release date I have been setting aside $40 per week to cover the cost of the system and 1 to 2 games. I have pre-ordered. I am stupidly excited for this thing and even if I only have a couple 3DS games to start, I also have a health backlog of DS games so i am good to go for awhile. Plus there are those funky built in games and apps.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 01, 2011, 12:08:47 PM
The battery is not a problem, and I am interested more in 3DS games than old Game Boy/Game Boy Color games, and the price is not bad. So yes, I will be getting it day 1. The early games look great. I may not buy as many games if they do end up being $40-50 (I wish Nintendo would announce MSRP's for games already), but I will still get a couple.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Ian Sane on February 01, 2011, 12:22:51 PM
I won't but it has little to do with the battery life or the price or anything like that. I got burned TWICE by Nintendo releasing revisions of their handhelds. The GBA SP really pissed me off because I found it be a big struggle to have good lighting for the original GBA screen. The light should have been there from day one and I felt like a real sucker for having bought what I saw as an unfinished product. With the DS I did not notice any obvious flaws so I felt it was safe to buy it but they again released a superior revision.
I'm not falling for that **** again. I will not buy the original 3DS because I know they're going to release the "true" version a few years from now. I'm not going to be a sucker ever again. And if they never release a new version then I'll wait until the 3DS successor comes out to make the call of when it's safe to get one. I'm not going to risk buying the damn thing and having the better model get announced a week later.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 01, 2011, 01:35:02 PM
There isn't a portable product out there that doesn't go through that same process. The GB, GBA, DS, PSP, iPod, iPhone did/do this...hell, the minute you buy ANY cell phone it's immediately outdated. Even most consoles go through major hardware revisions. Why waste time waiting for this "true" version that will fix all of the problems you admitted didn't bother you? And after that there might be a third version, so you definitely shouldn't buy the second one! It never ends.
If you have legitimate complaints about the 3DS or think that there are some important features they might add later on then you have reason to wait. Otherwise it's just silly.
That said I think there are TONS of legitimate complaints that can be made about the product so I wouldn't blame anyone if they didn't buy one at launch. I think it's just silly to wait for a mystery product at some mystery point in the future at a mystery price with mystery features that you may or may not want. Just get it and have fun!
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Ian Sane on February 01, 2011, 02:30:49 PM
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There isn't a portable product out there that doesn't go through that same process. The GB, GBA, DS, PSP, iPod, iPhone did/do this...hell, the minute you buy ANY cell phone it's immediately outdated. Even most consoles go through major hardware revisions. Why waste time waiting for this "true" version that will fix all of the problems you admitted didn't bother you? And after that there might be a third version, so you definitely shouldn't buy the second one! It never ends.
I expect that sort of thing with cellphones and MP3 players and such. With videogame systems it is a relatively new concept. The NES and SNES got new versions but that was after those systems no longer were current. The original brick Game Boy lasted 6 years before the Game Boy Pocket revision came out. The GBC had no revision. Aside from colours the only N64 revision was a weird Pikachu design, there was no Gamecube revision and thus far has been no Wii revision. With the GBA this clearly superior variation came out right in the peak of the system's life. Same with the DS Lite. I'm fine with some end-of-life redesign but one thing I like about videogame systems is you buy it and that's it. It doesn't change. I'm not pleased that I now expect a better 3DS to be released during the peak of the 3DS's life. I don't like how Sony and MS are constantly releasing new SKUs. Stability is a large part of the appeal of this propriatary console/handheld model.
If the battery life is a problem well you can bet your ass a 3DS revision will address that. I don't want to feel like I've got an out-of-date system during the peak of the 3DS life cycle and I sure as hell am not going to be a sucker and buy the damn thing twice. Nintendo has established a pattern that I don't care for, that I feel is designed specifically to take advantage of their customers, and I'm not going to play ball with it. They want you all to buy the 3DS now and rebuy it later when the better version comes out. I'm not going to participate in that.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: nickmitch on February 01, 2011, 02:51:39 PM
I already pre-ordered mine on Amazon.com
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 01, 2011, 03:17:58 PM
I am buying one at launch, Pilotwings will likely be a launch title and it is a game I am really looking forward to. Also I sold my DSi to prepare for the 3DS. In regards to price, it is a fair price IMO, and I really don't see anything striking that will make long for a revision, the battery will likely have solutions available, and beyond that there isn't anything it seems to be suffering from, it is basically an evolution of all the revisions done up thru DSi.
BTW I guess Ian will not be buying a handheld ever again considering there will always be a chance new revisons. Seriously, if you see the system and nothing is really bothering you hardware wise, why must one wait?
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 01, 2011, 03:55:25 PM
Yes and no. There was a revision in the DOL-101 model, a negative one though. It removed support for AV and component cables (with Nintendo trying to justify it by saying very few GameCube owners were using it).
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2011, 04:03:50 PM
Yes and no. There was a revision in the DOL-101 model, a negative one though. It removed support for AV and component cables (with Nintendo trying to justify it by saying very few GameCube owners were using it).
"TJ Spyke Why is no one impressed by my mastery of Wikipedia?"
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 01, 2011, 04:15:41 PM
Except I knew that, I didn't need to look it up. You smited me because I let someone know they were wrong and gave them useful info?
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2011, 04:17:23 PM
i didn't smite you. I pay no attention to the scores. You accuse the wrong person for your declining score.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 01, 2011, 04:25:10 PM
Not me. It wasn't that long ago (just before the 3DS was announced) when I sold my Phat and bought a DSi. I would like to get enough use out of that to feel like it was a justified decision before I move on to something else. Plus there will almost certainly be revisions and price drops in the future, so it will definitely pay to wait.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Ian Sane on February 01, 2011, 04:45:48 PM
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Yes and no. There was a revision in the DOL-101 model, a negative one though. It removed support for AV and component cables (with Nintendo trying to justify it by saying very few GameCube owners were using it).
Man, I totally forgot about that. But that's the exact opposite situation where waiting was a negative. Technically they did something similar with the SNES that made later models incompatible with the Game Genie. And this isn't that weird redesigned look one. This was like in 1994 and the systems look exactly the same. I found out the hard way which version I had when I bought a used Game Genie and had to return it. Turns out a second version of the Game Genie was made to work with the slightly different SNES but it also looks the same so good luck trying to find one of those in the wild.
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BTW I guess Ian will not be buying a handheld ever again considering there will always be a chance new revisons.
I figure the first revision, likely to be released two or three years from now, will be the most significant jump up and any later ones will be minor. What I have learned is to not get the original model.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Adrock on February 01, 2011, 04:54:28 PM
I can wait for a revision, but if some really awesome games come out, I may reconsider. Currently, the only game I care about on 3DS is Resident Evil Revelations. 2D Metroid or a NSMB based on SMB3 could convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Tanookisuit on February 01, 2011, 06:33:43 PM
As long as I'm not broke, I'm getting it.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 01, 2011, 08:02:46 PM
The GC revision that removed features isn't the only example of a revision making things worse than the original. That's actually more of the rule than an exception. Look at every Playstation and how Sony kept cutting features out, starting with the original and then the PS2 which initially had support for a hard drive, but then they released the slim which removed that ability. The PS3 removed support for PS2 backwards compatibility. Then there was the DSi which removed the GBA slot which not only removed GBA compatibility, but also wrecked certain DS games like Guitar Hero which required that slot for peripheral use.
It kinda makes you wonder why companies add these features in the first place when they seem intent to remove them at a later point. I mean, what the hell? Why put it there if you're just going to pull it out later on anyway?
i didn't smite you. I pay no attention to the scores. You accuse the wrong person for your declining score.
People on here are like Piranhas. Once you go into the negative they smell the blood in the water and they all come after you and you tend to stay in the negative forever and can't get out of it. Believe me, I know. Mine goes down one or two points every day for no apparent reason. Sometimes I get a positive point or two, buts its never enough to get out of the negative... so I just say the hell with it and gave up worrying about it.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on February 01, 2011, 09:52:17 PM
Waiting a few months. Willing to pay that launch price, but I won't like it.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Adrock on February 01, 2011, 11:39:09 PM
I mean, what the hell? Why put it there if you're just going to pull it out later on anyway?
That's what she said.
Seriously though, I'm not sure Sony or Nintendo planned on pulling features. I don't think they're just fucking with people. It usually makes sense from a business standpoint. I'm not saying it's fair/unfair (let's not go there, please), but clearly there's a reason and I'd assume 9 times out of 10, it's based on profits. Additionally, I wouldn't lump DSi in with PS3 in this case because Nintendo didn't stop selling DS Lite. In fact, you can still buy one today. And unlike Sony, Nintendo didn't retroactively remove features. The option is still there though I suppose, ideally, DSi could have just had a GBA slot and avoided this. Still, I think Nintendo wanted to make a clear distinction between the 2 systems. The main draw for DSi is access to DSiWare. The drawbacks are obviously no GBA support and incompatibility with less than 1% of DS software, basically just Guitar Hero and the random Japan-only slide controller that supported 1.13 games. Those are limitations Nintendo could live with having and obviously didn't mind. Nintendo has to abandon legacy support at some point. No matter when Nintendo does it, someone somewhere is going to be upset about it.
Anyway, to bring this sort of back on topic, the only thing Nintendo can realistically remove is DS support. I guess that's still a possibility though I'm not sure how DS games work on 3DS, emulation or otherwise. Since I still own a DSi and my brother has my old DS Lite and I plan on selling neither, I wouldn't be too heartbroken if Nintendo lamely removed DS support in a future 3DS model. Not ideal because I like the perceived value of backwards compatibility that I probably wouldn't take advantage of ever, but it wouldn't affect my decision to buy a revision. Given the choice, I'd buy the revision if it improves upon the current hardware even at the expense of previous hardware support.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Nemo on February 02, 2011, 01:19:42 AM
I'm not planning on getting a 3DS. It's mostly a money issue. Not that I think it's not worth it... I just don't have the expendable income. I bought the last 4 Nintendo launch products, too, so this will break my streak. (Wii, DS, GameCube, GBA)
As for hardware revisions, it's generally not a factor for me. I did get a GBA, then a GBA SP. This is because $99 was totally worth actually being able to see the game I was playing. But I still exclusively have my DS Phat. The Lite doesn't have $129 worth of upgrade. It's just slightly smaller. The DSi just let you download some crappy games... I've never heard of any DSi games that are really must-haves (unless I'm just out of the loop?). I'm not angry that Nintendo has released other (better?) versions of the DS. Ultimately, if I felt they were worth the price, I'd buy the newer version and I'd be happy because I chose to buy something that was worth having. Or, I'd keep enjoying the version I have, knowing that keeping my money is better than buying something that's not worth it.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: KisakiProject on February 02, 2011, 09:57:10 AM
I'm getting a blue one. Not sure what game. I held onto my DS phat until DSi came out. Personally I think 3DS was in the oven longer than GBA and DS so it will be longer till a redisgn. The launch windows looks a bit meh but still more encouraging than DS and I still had alot of fun with my DS in the first 6 months. I am more excited for NGP but it will drive me crazy if people are talking about 3DS in March and I don't have one.
Plus Steel Diver is a new IP and Pilot Wings is a franchise thats been ignored for 15 years. We always complain Nintendo should bring back old stuff and make new IPs. Time to put $ where you mouth is. I will.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 02, 2011, 11:07:50 AM
I plan on getting one on launch...hopefully the tax return comes swiftly!
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 02, 2011, 12:39:31 PM
Plus Steel Diver is a new IP and Pilot Wings is a franchise thats been ignored for 15 years. We always complain Nintendo should bring back old stuff and make new IPs. Time to put $ where you mouth is. I will.
I've been begging for a new Pilotwings game for years but Pilotwings Resort isn't exactly what I had in mind. I will still probably get it but I can't help but feel disappointed in the direction the game seems to be heading...
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Kytim89 on February 02, 2011, 04:00:02 PM
I bought my DSi thinking that with the GBA slot removed that Nintendo was going to have a virtual handheld service, but I was one handheld console behind with that sentiment.
Nintendo is most likely not going to include Gamecube BC with the Wii 2 simply because it would be cheaper to emulate the console on a virtual service.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2011, 04:41:27 PM
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Nintendo is most likely not going to include Gamecube BC with the Wii 2 simply because it would be cheaper to emulate the console on a virtual service.
What part of the Wii makes it backwards compatible though? I'm assuming the Wii 2 will still play Wii games. If the hardware that makes Cube games compatible is required to even play Wii games then it might stay. They didn't remove GB compatibility, and only had GBC compatibility, with the GBA because the two were connected. There is no way to have GBC hardware that cannot play original GB games. The Wii is an expansion of the Cube's architecture. Compatibility might be a requirement.
Though Nintendo could remove support for the smaller discs, remove the controller and memory card slots and then you have something that in terms of the guts of the hardware can play Cube games but lacks the external components to allow someone to do so without a mod. It would be like how the Genesis was always backwards compatible with the SMS but you needed an adapter to fit SMS carts in the Genesis cartridge slot. But the SMS compatibility was because the Genesis used the SMS's CPU as its sound chip. If Sega took it out the Genesis could no longer play Genesis games.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2011, 05:51:54 PM
I'm pretty sure Nintendo will be able to emulate the Wii in it's entirety with the next console, whether it's accepting disc or downloaded games. But hopefully Nintendo is smart enough to just write in CCPro support in place of GC controller support and then sell different special edition CCPro's for those that want specific controllers.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Kytim89 on February 02, 2011, 05:59:03 PM
Is it safe to assume to that all gaming companies will adopt emulation as their standard way of achieving backwards compatibility because it is cheaper?
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2011, 06:05:13 PM
no. not a safe assumption since the follow up console has to be a massive jump in power to emulate the previous system with any success. see: PS3 emulation of PS2 & X360 emulation of Xbox
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 02, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
It's also not necessarily cheaper. Upping the cost of manufacturing the system by a few bucks to ensure full hardware backwards compatibility might be cheaper than the effort that would have to go into programming an emulator for such a recent piece of hardware that works consistently with its entire software library. Of course, they could also pull a Sony and not offer it at all. There's no way to really know, but I don't think cutting BC on the PS3 has had any significant effect on its sales.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Kytim89 on February 02, 2011, 08:38:20 PM
The lack of BC for the PS2 is one reason why I refuse to buy a PS3. I am one of those consumers that believes that a new console MUST have backwards compatibility with previous consoles. I will be damned if all of the money I spent building up a game libraury is **** down the drain when I buy a new console.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 02, 2011, 08:39:56 PM
Not that I am defending Sony, but it's not like you have to throw out your old system. I prefer to have BC too, but there is nothing stopping you from just playing your games on the system they were release for.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2011, 08:40:18 PM
What happened to the console you bought all the games for when you bought the new console? Did it fade away into obscurity to never be seen or heard from again?
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Kytim89 on February 02, 2011, 08:43:47 PM
What happened to the console you bought all the games for when you bought the new console? Did it fade away into obscurity to never be seen or heard from again?
I always send the older system into the great console paradise in the sky following my purchase of a new system.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 03, 2011, 12:29:39 PM
I might not rush out on Day 1 since there are only 2 games I'm interested in at this point (both from Capcom), but I think I can hold out till the end of the year and likely early into next year too. A small cosmetic redesign is all I'm hoping for, not extra features (even though those would be nice too). http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30917.msg653709#msg653709
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 03, 2011, 12:33:26 PM
I think the earliest you'll see a redesign is late 2012, and I'd be fairly surprised to see it even that early. Early 2012 might get you a price drop to $200, though.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 03, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
It's not a requirement to buy, it just a one of several reasons to not be in a rush to own (along with $$$<$250 system + possibly $50 games at launch> & game selection).
Most important thing being the game selection of course. Last thing I want to do is rush out to buy a system that I will only play for a few days/weeks at first, wait for the online stuff to get released.... then it collects dust for a while, then new games I want get released around Xmas and all the games I bought at launch that I barely played have all dropped $20 in price so now I'm mad I bought them so long ago and never played them.
I can wait till I see what being offered as far as movies & video content(please give me Netflix 3D), big name 2nd gen games and 3DSware/VC games listings. At this point, there is no rush to be first to have one as I still have a MAJOR Wii backlog I need to get to and all sort of TV shows I want to check out/catch up on.
E3 could be the one thing that makes me rush out to get one before Xmas though, but that's not for about 4 more months, so I can wait. But i will definitely own one, just not likely before E3, unless Nintendo can convince me otherwise.
edit: What would be an instant buy would be a 3DSXL.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 03, 2011, 01:06:56 PM
To everyone still planning on being there day one: what launch window games are you looking at?
I personally am very interested in Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars, and I feel like I'm the only one. I love turn-based strategy, and the fact it's being made buy the guy who made X-COM excites me, even though I've never played that game and am going purely by its reputation.
I'll also probably get PilotWings as long as it seems like there will be some depth to it. I've never really played a PilotWings game before, and probably wouldn't be looking at it if there were more substantive first party titles at launch (I still know essentially nothing about Steel Diver, and have no interest in Nintendogs + Cats). What I've seen so far looks interesting, though, and it seems like my lack of time spent in the air sports mode in Wii Sports Resort has paid off.
Aside from that, I don't know. I'd be interested in Madden and Pro Evo if it weren't only 4 months until Madden 12 and a couple more until EA's FIFA, which is more appealing to me than Pro Evo. The list of launch window games includes Resident Evil: Mercenaries, which I'm definitely interested in, but it sounds like it'll be later in the window, if it even hits it at all.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 03, 2011, 01:19:21 PM
Some of my launch window games I am interested in:
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D Pilotwings Resort
Even LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars looks like something I could enjoy.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Ian Sane on February 03, 2011, 02:31:35 PM
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Is it safe to assume to that all gaming companies will adopt emulation as their standard way of achieving backwards compatibility because it is cheaper?
I think they'll do what is the easiest and cheapest way to do it. If the next system builds directly on the architecture of the previous one then it would be easier and cheaper to just use hardware BC.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: TheFleece on February 03, 2011, 11:23:27 PM
I had a dream Joan Rivers sold me a 3DS in a park. I took it home and found a giant AR symbol painted on the side of a building and I had The Time of My Life. I'm reserving mine at the Nintendo store.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 03, 2011, 11:52:39 PM
It would be pretty sweet if Nintendo did a spotpass AR game that took place all over everywhere.
Maybe if they teamed up with McDonalds and/or Starbuck where both of those stores would put an AR symbol in somewhere in their store and you have to visit them all to play and beat the AR game which gives you another piece of the puzzle. Your results are automatically uploaded using the free Wifi that McD's and SB already provide and a map with all locations of those stores has a new X as that location has been marked off for you.
I don't know what the end game will be or if there should be a prize or something, but it's just an idea that maybe Nintendo could run with.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: leroypantweather on February 04, 2011, 02:24:57 AM
i still plan on getting mine day one(black), have it almost paid off, plan on getting street fighter and pokemon black with the system.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: oohhboy on February 04, 2011, 02:10:22 PM
These days, if it says Tom Clancy on it, stay the hell away. It's been a long time since Hunt for Red October and games like the original Ghost Recon. However guy from Xcom? Interesting. I hope he has found some sort of solution to deal with door ways and corners in turn base games. Doorways are absolutely lethal and pretty messed up with the massive move, time, shoot and space penalties of try to go through one. There aren't any real tactical entry solutions other than explode wall a lot of the times. Maybe if they allow you to toss nades around corners and open doors without exposing yourself would help.
Back on topic, hell no, not on launch. Besides waiting to see how the region issue pans out, the launch titles are pretty lackluster. Cost is also a major factor, it just feels a little steep and with import hindrances on the horizon, I can wait for options to open up.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Razorkid on February 04, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
I pre-ordered mine at Gamestop and plan on selling my DSi to save on cost when they inevitably do their "Get an extra 25-50% more credit towards a purchase of a 3DS" promotion.
I've sorta gone back and forth on buying one at launch and a few factors have swayed me to plunk down for day one:
1.) My DSi is broken - Specifically the shoulder buttons. I've RMA'ed this DSi twice already. This is the first Nintendo portable that I've owned that has not been reliable hardware wise.
2.) I game portably, a lot - Besides my iPhone, I constantly bring my DS with me. Like bringing a good book around with you, you'd be surprised by how much free time you have standing around doing nothing that you could be dedicating to entertaining yourself.
3.) The DS is old - Like, 7 years old. It launched in 2004. It's 2011. I believe an upgrade is well past due.
4.) Backwards compatability - This is absolutely HUGE. Unlike the GBA, DS game carts are almost the exact same shape as 3DS ones (besides the little tab), so BC will most likely NEVER be phased out. And the DS has amassed a (IMO) PS2 like library of awesome games (particularly in the RPG genre) that I still would like to experience and can alongside my awesome 3DS titles. So I'm not sore if the game I want doesn't come out till a few months later, there are gobs of NEW DS games that are coming/have recently released that I still want to play.
5.) Availabilty - I'm not a technophile who buys up all the latest and greatest gadgets released (don't have the cash and why anyway?), but I know I want this product. If I wait until the Summer or Fall to purchase a 3DS, I know that those who got it at launch will splooge about it on forums worldwide (which I lurk frequently). I also know that at that time, suddenly more games that I will be interested in will be either released or announced to be released shortly and then I'll be chomping at the bit to buy a 3DS only to find that......they are sold out everywhere. "Sorry sir, the next shipment won't be here for another couple of weeks and we are only receiving like 5-8. Better get on the waiting list and in the meantime, would you like to pre-order some games?" Not. Happening. To me.
Those are the reasons I am buying a 3DS at launch on top of the feature set of the system itself and a couple of the software titles.
Personally I am interested in picking up Steel Diver and SSFIV 3D.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 04, 2011, 09:57:46 PM
Not that I am defending Sony, but it's not like you have to throw out your old system. I prefer to have BC too, but there is nothing stopping you from just playing your games on the system they were release for.
Most people have limited shelf space, and TVs have limited inputs. Its more of a hassle and cluttered mess to have a dozen consoles. So there is something stopping a lot of people from playing games on the system they were released for.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Kytim89 on February 04, 2011, 11:32:40 PM
Not that I am defending Sony, but it's not like you have to throw out your old system. I prefer to have BC too, but there is nothing stopping you from just playing your games on the system they were release for.
Most people have limited shelf space, and TVs have limited inputs. Its more of a hassle and cluttered mess to have a dozen consoles. So there is something stopping a lot of people from playing games on the system they were released for.
This is the main reason why I like the Virtual Console on Wii because I do not have to worry about hooking up a NES, SNES, Genesis or N64 just to play all the older games. I can just hook one console up and have many more piggy backing that console. This is also the main reason why I want more consoles emulated on the Wii 2.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 05, 2011, 05:02:37 AM
The problem with the VC is it doesn't have every game. Some just haven't been added, but there are many that will never be added and can't be added because of licensing disputes and crap like that. Plus you can't use things like a Game Genie or other peripherals like the superscope on the VC, so we will never be able to enjoy Super Scope 6 and the handful of other similar games on the VC, and sadly its doubtful Nintendo will ever tinker with those games to make them compatible with the wiimote/zapper. It just doesn't seem to be on their radar.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 05, 2011, 10:09:36 AM
Install the homebrew channel and some emulators, or create your own VC games by injecting the ROMs into the packages...problem solved. Pretty sure on SNES9X GX that Super Scope games work.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: ejamer on February 05, 2011, 06:36:23 PM
Getting a 3DS is still tempting, but I haven't bought a handheld on release since GBA. (Which seems appropriate since I'm still actively playing GBA games to this day. Why bother upgrading? Even if I do "finish" with the GBA library, my wife owns a DS that is currently neglected and just waiting for some love.)
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: ThomasO on February 06, 2011, 08:39:31 PM
I'm still considering buying a 3DS at launch. The only game on the horizon that I absolutely want is Paper Mario 3DS, and its release date is still TBA... not sure about PilotWings Resort or Nintendogs + cats.
EDIT: I've also been thinking about The Sims 3. My computer is most likely unable to support the game (I've had it for nearly 4 years with no hardware upgrades), so if the reviews for the 3DS version are good I might buy that game.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: SixthAngel on February 07, 2011, 05:27:48 AM
I really want to get one but I won't. I never planned on getting it at launch and I have too many other games that I haven't finished/played yet. Getting one imported early will probably have a 100% markup too since they could ebay it and avoid the shipping.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 07, 2011, 07:15:15 AM
I'm still considering buying a 3DS at launch. The only game on the horizon that I absolutely want is Paper Mario 3DS, and its release date is still TBA... not sure about PilotWings Resort or Nintendogs + cats.
EDIT: I've also been thinking about The Sims 3. My computer is most likely unable to support the game (I've had it for nearly 4 years with no hardware upgrades), so if the reviews for the 3DS version are good I might buy that game.
I wouldn't hold your breath regarding Sims 3 since all the console version had some nasty bugs, glitches and loading times.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: MaryJane on February 08, 2011, 10:15:34 AM
I'm still most likely going to pick up a 3DS at launch, but my decision would be made a lot easier with a list of launch games.
The problem is that with the online capabilities mostly gimped at launch, the system's launch depends completely on its games. Yes, there is the AR which I look forward to, and fun to be had with the 3D cameras, but those can only entertain for so long. If cheap, downloadable games were available at launch, it would make the system a lot more appealing. As it is now, I would likely have to spend about $353 (with two $40 games and NJ sales tax) for the system to keep me entertained long enough to make buying one at launch a good option.
So then that leaves the question of whether or not there will be two games worth buying at launch. It seems very unusual to me that six weeks from launch we still don't have the line-up of games.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 08, 2011, 11:12:09 AM
Nintendo announced the European launch lineup today, so that is a good indicator of what the North American lineup will be like and I think it looks good.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on February 08, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
Launch games I want: Pilotwings SSIV Lego Star Wars 3 - maybe Steel Diver though I can wait for a price drop on that one I think. Even if its a year, I can still wait. Unless reviews and other feedback tell me its much better than it appears.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: MaryJane on February 08, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
If the US launch includes Tom Clancy's GR:SW, and Samurai Chronicles, I'd be satisfied, but I'm still skeptical. I'd really need glowing reviews of both games and a solid launch date for online to buy a system at launch.
One thing that does concern me about not getting one at launch, is what if the 3DS is the new Wii and there are droughts when it is actually "worth it" to buy the system. When/if the 3DS gets a lot of video support, plus the online system launches, it could be the hot new item of the year, so I might just get one at launch and grit my teeth.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Runic on February 10, 2011, 04:56:52 AM
I have already preordered mine. I will be getting the blue version and picking Street Fighter and maybe Pilot Wings. Waiting to see the reviews on Pilot Wings before I buy it. I was torn on DOA or Street Fighter, but DOA didn't look great at E3, so I went with SF.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Shorty McNostril on February 10, 2011, 06:23:38 AM
I'm waiting for the redesign. I was initially all over this thing. But for $350. Um, HELL NO!!!
I can get a X360 for that much. That plus there is not 1 launch title I find remotely interesting.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: MaryJane on February 10, 2011, 10:21:34 AM
I'm going to assume you live in Australia, because in the U.S $350 will get me the 3DS and two games, tax included. I have the money set aside, but I still don't know if I should pre-order or not... It is still rather expensive.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 10, 2011, 12:26:44 PM
$350 in the US will also get you an Xbox 360 (4GB) and 3 games (assuming you pay $50 a pop).
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: MaryJane on February 10, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
Yeah, but he was referring to the price of the 3DS, and there's already an 360 in my house.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Kytim89 on February 11, 2011, 02:24:47 AM
I was just at Gamestop and the tade-in values of the DS family for the 3DS are as follows:
DS Lite: $50 DSi: $75 DSi XL: $100
If I traded in my DSi for a 3DS then I would have to pay $175 before tax for the system. Not bad deal considering the DSi was rougly that price when it launched. However, I am afraid to turn in my DSi too early until I see how my DSiware games will be able to transfer over to the 3DS. Hopefully you just disconnect the DSi from your Club Nintendo account and then reactivate it on the 3DS and redownload them onto the 3DS.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 11, 2011, 02:56:51 AM
You will need to have your DSi to transfer DSiWare to the 3DS. I'm pretty sure that's been confirmed, and even if it hasn't, I would be absolutely shocked if it weren't true. Knowing Nintendo, the transfer is going to be way more complicated than it needs to be, and they will have thrown up as many obstacles as possible to prevent any perceived loss of money on their part.
Bottom line: if you sell your DSi to buy a 3DS, you're going to lose your DSiWare.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Shorty McNostril on February 11, 2011, 07:13:34 AM
I'm going to assume you live in Australia, because in the U.S $350 will get me the 3DS and two games, tax included. I have the money set aside, but I still don't know if I should pre-order or not... It is still rather expensive.
You are quite correct. The place where pretty much every multi-national company will release things last, and for double the price.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: Razorkid on February 11, 2011, 08:33:17 PM
Initially, another reason preventing from buying at launch was the need to have your DSi system to transfer over your DSiware games. But then I thought,
"How many of those games do I actually still play or haven't beaten?"
I own about 10 DSiware games/apps including the free ones and have beaten all but 1. It's not like I'm potentially losing 40 apps on my iPhone that I use frequently. I'm willing to let em go to save $75 (which I didn't spend nearly that to buy em' in the first place) on my 3DS.
Of course everyone's mileage will vary. Personally, after hearing that DSiware was compatible with the 3DS last year, I held off on buying quite a few ware games in order to pick em up (hopefully more easilly) on the 3DS eShop.
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: AV on February 15, 2011, 09:51:21 PM
I reserved it at my local gamestop and every 2 weeks i pay it down so more. I have about $190 paid off and $15 paid off for Pilotwings. DAY 1 all the way
Title: Re: Who's still buying a 3DS at launch?
Post by: RagnaBlade on February 21, 2011, 04:09:20 PM
I have mine preordered (thanks to my awesome godmother/aunt). I'm broke, but 3DS here I come.
