Post by: StarFoxFan on May 03, 2003, 09:56:16 AM
Post by: RickPowers on May 03, 2003, 10:01:51 AM
Post by: Ninja X on May 03, 2003, 10:08:57 AM
However, you asked for the big game of 2004 Gamecube-wise. That, in my opinion, is the highly anticipated Resident Evil 4. I am hyped for it much more than I was for Metroid Prime or the Wind Waker. Not only that, but it is guaranteed to sell a good amount of Cubes if it is as good as I expect it to be.
Post by: Christberg on May 03, 2003, 10:10:16 AM
Not too worried about Nintendo's lineup.
As far as 2004 goes, Resident Evil 4 is the big gun, along with Mario 128 and possibly Killer 7.
Post by: Armed on May 03, 2003, 10:51:53 AM
Post by: ThePerm on May 03, 2003, 11:05:29 AM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on May 03, 2003, 11:32:46 AM
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Metroid Prime 2 possibly. A new "realistic" Zelda is rumored to come out 2004 for GCN. Star Fox Armada will also probably be scheduled for 2004. Don't forget about Animal Crossing 2, whose predecessor was a hit in both Japan and America. Many people are hyping Too Human, a game that literally nobody knows information about besides tidbits. Also, Mario Party 5 might come out 2004, this time with LAN features. The new Final Fantasy will come out 2004 if it is not released this year. Adding to Too Human is Metal Gear Solid, which I think will come out next year. A rumored Pokemon RPG is in the works supposedly, possibly coming out next year. Dead Phoenix and Killer 7 will also come out next year, most likely.
However, you asked for the big game of 2004 Gamecube-wise. That, in my opinion, is the highly anticipated Resident Evil 4. I am hyped for it much more than I was for Metroid Prime or the Wind Waker. Not only that, but it is guaranteed to sell a good amount of Cubes if it is as good as I expect it to be.
Well listed, really impressive line up to compete with Halo 2, Fable etc.
And you must consider that RE4 is the most anticipated game in Japan after DQ8, and thats impressive.
Dont forget Virtua fighter RPG, Game Zero, Mario 128........
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 03, 2003, 12:07:03 PM
Post by: TheResidentEvil on May 03, 2003, 12:14:03 PM
GC, howeever, I have some 22 titles for, and keeps me goign all the time, and there are some at least fifteen gc games I'm waiting for, compared to the three or so XBX. (Brute force is one xbx)
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 03, 2003, 12:17:30 PM
Post by: nolimit19 on May 03, 2003, 12:41:59 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 03, 2003, 01:50:25 PM
Post by: Gamefreak on May 03, 2003, 02:25:44 PM
Post by: Ninja X on May 03, 2003, 02:43:55 PM
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Really, in terms of sales, it's Mario Kart, if it's released next year. Historically, Mario Kart has been the best selling game on ever Nintendo platform since the SNES (not 100% about the GBA, but I'm pretty sure), even outselling Mario and Zelda. Mario 128, Too Human, and MGS:TS will most likely figure in big, too.
The best selling N64 game is Super Mario 64, not Mario Kart 64.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 03, 2003, 02:57:47 PM
Post by: rpglover on May 03, 2003, 02:57:52 PM
but if it were me i would say nintendo's biggest surprise would be metal gear solid twin snake
hopefully that sells well so we can get some more metal gear lovin'
also- too human is on my top waiting list as is the ever secretive "game zero"
i think nintendo has a pretty strong line up for e3 and the rest of the year so lets hope for more surprises
Post by: Gamefreak on May 03, 2003, 03:06:12 PM
As for the topic, we will find out at E3 won't we?
As for what's already announced, there's Too Human and Resident Evil 4, as well as possibly a new Smash Bros. game, if they keep releasing one everything 3 years...
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 03, 2003, 03:47:37 PM
Post by: Gamefreak on May 03, 2003, 03:58:24 PM
http://ign64.ign.com/articles/072/072580p1.html
Post by: WesDawg on May 03, 2003, 04:35:22 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 03, 2003, 04:39:42 PM
And it's bigger than Mario and Zelda in Japan, so it should be one of the Cube's best games selling games worldwide.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 03, 2003, 04:49:05 PM
As for Half Life, I severely doubt a PC shooter will cause a dent in console sales....And the PC market is extremely small compared to the console market. It's very rare for a PC game to sell even a million units, but each console has loads of million sellers...
Post by: Samwise Gamgee on May 03, 2003, 05:55:54 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on May 03, 2003, 06:17:53 PM
But allow me to add that I think there are plenty of other good games on the Xbox, I don't mean to bash the Xbox...if anything my real complaint is with Halo. There are some good games on that system, but it seems like all anyone talks about is Halo.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 03, 2003, 06:43:27 PM
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I have a list I keep on my computer of all the games I'm interested in checking out for each console I own (GC, GBA, and PS1/2). I don't include rumored games or games I already own. There's 37 games on my GBA list, 52 games on my PS1/2 list (22/30, respectively), and a whopping 59 games on my Gamecube list. I certainly won't buy all these games, but it becomes clear why I own a Gamecube after looking at the list.
heh, I do the same too. I have it divided into two sections, "Wanted' and "Maybe". I also don't include rumored games as well. At time of typing, I have 19 GC, 10 GBA and 7 PC games. Heck, Metriod Prime is still on the list, I haven't had time to play it.
Post by: TheResidentEvil on May 03, 2003, 06:56:10 PM
Yes, Mario Kart is big stop friggin arguing about it!
Halo 2 will rock, rock so hard I will be rocke dto death.
But yes, so will all of the amazing Gamecube games, which will totally outweigh Xbox.
But Halo 2 is still good and you need to reconigze that.
Nintenod just needs to get off their ass and buy friggin rockstar and Square-Enix and Capcom and they willd estroy everything. And they could too, the GBA is pure profit gold mine.
Post by: BrianSLA on May 03, 2003, 09:39:31 PM
Yes HALF LIFE 2 is Xbox bound...... but it still won't put a single dent into HALO 2's sales. Halo is just THAT GREAT. Halo STILL outsells the majority of Gamecube game sales.... even recently released GC titles.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 03, 2003, 10:04:36 PM
Post by: Kai on May 03, 2003, 10:58:24 PM
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Lets clear a few things up.
Yes, Mario Kart is big stop friggin arguing about it!
Halo 2 will rock, rock so hard I will be rocke dto death.
But yes, so will all of the amazing Gamecube games, which will totally outweigh Xbox.
But Halo 2 is still good and you need to reconigze that.
Nintenod just needs to get off their ass and buy friggin rockstar and Square-Enix and Capcom and they willd estroy everything. And they could too, the GBA is pure profit gold mine.
Can we possibly set our sights a bit higher than "Nintenod just needs to get off their ass and buy friggin rockstar" When Nintendo have already said they don't support the use of exploitative violence that Rockstar uses in GTA.
Edit & clarification / I do think it's entirely possible for Nintendo to make adult games and/or or driving games in the GTA style, but highly doubt any violence would be dumb exploitative stuff, it would be in the context of the game. The depiction of violence in itself is not a bad thing, in fact it is often necessary.
Post by: The Doc on May 04, 2003, 05:46:27 AM
The Doc
Post by: TheResidentEvil on May 04, 2003, 06:07:18 AM
Post by: Ninja X on May 04, 2003, 06:50:59 AM
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I already said that, about 20 minutes ago
Whoops...well, sorry, but his post did come before yours and I had to say that Mario 64 outsold Mario Kart 64.
Entertainment Weekly did a chart on the top ten selling games from 1996 to present and Mario 64 came out on top.
Post by: Ninja X on May 04, 2003, 06:56:07 AM
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Nintenod just needs to get off their ass and buy friggin rockstar and Square-Enix and Capcom and they willd estroy everything. And they could too, the GBA is pure profit gold mine.
If Nintendo did do that, a couple pennies would be left in their treasury. You can't run a company on a few pennies.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 04, 2003, 07:20:47 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 04, 2003, 07:31:56 AM
As for the big title, I say Mario Kart. And another game that's coming out is Kirby's Air Ride, which hasn't gotten much hype, but it looks cool and it's made by Hal Laboratories, same people that made both Smash Brothers and the N64 Kirby game (very fun game, in my opinion).
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 04, 2003, 08:16:46 AM
Post by: TheResidentEvil on May 04, 2003, 02:59:22 PM
I know, I was exagerating. But really, they could aquire one of those companies,e asily, and it would help them fathoms. Rockstar would win it fdor Nintendo, i dont like GTA much, but it is the trute that GTA is the number-one reason PS2 did so well, and probobaly the biggest system selling game around.
Post by: "Sky" on May 04, 2003, 04:38:55 PM
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Halo 2 just better have a good story mode, since its predeccessor had a pretty weak one
Story weak? First off Halo didn't really have a weak story, it had a pretty good one, especially for an FPS.
Next off... you do not need cut-scenes to tell a story. We're playing video games to interact (or at least... should be... I hope...) and I'd better not be reading or watching for even 5% (uh... rough estimate) of a game. If I want to watch I'll go see a movie. Not to assume you are complaining about Halo's storyline because of a lack of cut-scenes, but it wouldn't hurt to cover that just in case
Post by: Michael8983 on May 04, 2003, 04:44:04 PM
The GTA series is just a fad. It's to this generation what Mortal Kombat was to the 16-bit generation.
People will eventually get sick of it. It won't have the kind of staying power games like Mario and Zelda have had. Nintendo is better off investing in something that will really help it in the long-term. Rockstar may be the holy-grail developer at the moment but so was Midway at a time and now it's regarded as one of the cr*ppiest developers in the world.
Rockstar may not have a fate quite as sad as Midway's but I think Nintendo's latest acquired developers, SK and Retro, will eventually do more for it than Rockstar ever could.
Post by: ZombieX on May 04, 2003, 05:02:41 PM
Metroid Prime 2
Resident Evil 4
New Mario
New Zelda
Virtua Fighter Quest
Too Human
Post by: Gamefreak on May 04, 2003, 05:13:07 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 04, 2003, 05:22:25 PM
Anyways, GTA wasn't a fad, it was liked so much becuase it gave you a whole crap load of freedom. If they make another GTA, which they will, I want them to give even more freedom...where you can plan out what you want to do. For instance, you can decide to rob a bank, then find people who can get the job done and hire them.....or you can highjack an airplane, or whatever.
All I want from Halo 2 is more weapons and the ability to hold more weapons.....by the way the pistol is bad ass (#1 favorite weapon)
Post by: Zy[T]HeR on May 04, 2003, 07:26:12 PM
As for the big game, I dont think it has been announced yet. Nintendo, no doubt, have a few titles up their sleeve that we dont know about. Realistic Zelda? All new Mario? New Smash Bros? Who knows.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 04, 2003, 09:42:30 PM
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 05, 2003, 02:37:41 AM
in regards to the storyline, i actually did like it, but the cut scenes were annoying... but my biggest complaint was the cramped indoor levels.. Master Chief's a bird, man, he needs to be free
Post by: KrazyJ1098 on May 05, 2003, 05:11:54 AM
Post by: Perfect Cell on May 05, 2003, 06:38:40 AM
Post by: WesDawg on May 05, 2003, 06:41:10 AM
Post by: BlkPaladin on May 05, 2003, 08:21:00 AM
Too Human may be out next year.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 05, 2003, 09:56:08 AM
In May 2001 nobody was giving any realistic predictions for what titles would be big in 2002. Nobody assumed GTA: Vice City would be the big seller of 2002 because it hadn't been announced yet and GTA 3 hadn't been released yet (and at the time wasn't even that hyped of a title). For all we know something unexpected could become a huge hit this year and its sequel will be the big hit of 2004. A Gamecube version of Warioware could be the big hit of 2004 for all we know.
Discussing 2003 makes more sense but even then I would wait until after E3. There still are some surprise E3 games that could be big hits. After E3 we'll all have a pretty good idea about what's coming out for each console for the year.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 05, 2003, 11:15:44 AM
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Fad's sell, Michael.
Fad or not, its here to stay.
why are you all so far behind.. 05 is where its at.... and Nintendo has no chance against Microsoft in 2005... what with Halo Kart, Master Chief Golf & Tennis, Super Halo Sunshine, and Halo Party
[ in comic book guy's voice ] Worst attempt at a joke ever
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 05, 2003, 11:32:31 AM
Well then it's not a fad, because fasd, by definition, go out of style, like the Pet Rock.
Also, funny thing about the origin of comic book guy's catch phrase. A newspaper columnist did a review of The Simpsons around it's 3rd season or so and based most of the article on one episode in particular he saw (and disliked). He titled his column "Worst Episode Ever". Matt Groening thought the title was hilarious and had Comic Book Guy, who he views as being a lot like himself, say the line in one episode of The Simpsons and eventually branched out into other topics. Just thought you'd like to know.
Post by: BrianSLA on May 05, 2003, 05:36:04 PM
Yesterday I got the Ultimate Halo Companion w/ my pre-order of Brute Force. It has ALOT of Halo 1 & 2 stuff including a real time video trailer done on a Xbox. Today I got the latest OXM w/ a major HALO 2 cover & story. Lots of screen shots. DOOM 3, Half Life 2 and HALO 2 are all in the same category in terms of knock your socks off graphics / quality. FPS fans will DEFINITELY get all 3.
>> DOOM 3 will make Halo 2 look like crap <<
Nope. You haven't seen the trailer or the screenshots have you? From most of the screen shots / leaked story Halo 2 takes place on a battle ravaged Earth under Convenant occupation & the Master Chief returns to Earth in time to save humanity. The graphics look like a they have improved atleast a generation.
>> really standout FPS this year <<
There are 3 in the upcoming year. Doom 3, Half Life 2 and Halo 2. ALL 3 will be on the Xbox. FPS fans will get all 3. The FPS fans with the butt kicking hardware to run D3 & HL2 on their power rig PCs will get them on the PC... those who don't will get it on the Xbox.
Post by: WesDawg on May 05, 2003, 06:35:06 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 06, 2003, 06:23:50 AM
Post by: nonjagged on May 06, 2003, 07:47:08 AM
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Considering that Halo is Microsoft's only major exclusive, while Nintendo has several, I'm not sure that there's any need for concern. That said, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Pikmin 2 are what I would consider the major games ANNOUNCED so far.
Actually just about every Xbox exclusive game has just turned out to be time-exclusive even Halo was originally going to be a PC title and is still coming out on PC soon only running like 10 times better than the mediocre 30 frames per second Xbox version
.Hopefully Halo 2 will rid of the annoying character spawning in front of opposition multi-players, youd think after all these years when it sometimes occured in eg. Goldeneye that developers would work out a justice system of re-spawning not in the vacinity of a multi-player who happens to be near a respawning point who just happens to get a charity kill
.As for Halo 2 which is a long way away (in reality about a year away at least), by then we could be playing a Zoonami FPS possibly if you want to compare the lack-of-PC-ported FPS on Gamecube.
Me I'll wait for Halo 2 when it comes out on PC running 10 times better than the Xbox version. That is if you have an uptodate GPU.
2003 = The Year of the Fund Q, Triforce & E3 surprises.
Post by: Jedi Master Yoda on May 06, 2003, 10:38:07 AM
However, there's one main problem. I'm a "hardcore" gamer, so I know which games are good and which games are bad. For example, I know that Super Mario Sunshine was amazing. I know that SFA was a let down, and that Metroid Prime is one of the best games ever and everyone should play it. But other "casual" gamers don't. They buy whatever is "in style." That's where Nintendo is lacking. Most of the games that people are listing aren't going to be gigantic hits with "casual" gamers. Judging by the sales of Resident Evil 1 and 0 on GCN, I can guarantee you that 4 isn't going to sell as well as they'd like. But Xbox is great in getting the "casual" gamers to buy games that might not be as good as GCN games. Not to mention many "casual" gamers just outright refuse to play any game with Mario in it (or in the title) because it's "kiddy," even though SMS was one of my favorite games last year (beat only by Metroid and Vice City).
Post by: jc24 on May 12, 2003, 09:02:13 AM
Post by: Vanilla Thunder on May 12, 2003, 10:41:13 AM
Steven Kent: Partner up with Microsoft. Microsoft wants to crack the Japanese market and can't. Nintendo wants to crack the older demographic and cannot. MS makes the most powerful box, Nintendo makes the best controllers. Leave the PC business in MS's powerful hand and the handheld business with Nintendo.
Personally, I think this is a brilliant idea and would score us gamers the best of both worlds. Microsoft's endless cash and ingenius marketing strategies coupled with Nintendo's gaming muscle and world-renowned franchises would be more then enough to topple Sony's stranglehold, and would provide for the ideal environment in which to create a new golden age of gaming.
The only problem is that the Nintendo brand name may be overshadowed by Microsoft, unless the MS game division and Nintendo struck some sort of one-for-one "equal" merger, with MS handling the hardware and Nintendo at the helm of the game design.
Halo and X-Box Live combined with all of Nintendo's tried-and-true franchises would be AWESOME!
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 12, 2003, 11:39:59 AM
Post by: Vanilla Thunder on May 12, 2003, 11:43:57 AM
Post by: PIAC on May 12, 2003, 04:14:59 PM
Post by: BrianSLA on May 12, 2003, 11:17:52 PM
Why would Sony merge w/ N? Sony is the KING and doesn't need to. #2 ( M$ ) and #3 ( N ) merging to take on the king is more likely. But this is pointless because no one is merging with anyone. The three way console battle will last atleast another generation. Which is good for all gamers.... price wars, more games, more compettition, etc.
