Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2010, 12:50:39 PM
Title: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2010, 12:50:39 PM
or is it more Move + Wii? either way, I still like my (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=32069.msg642359#msg642359) idea (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=32069.msg642377#msg642377) better ;)
The i-dong consists of a sensor unit to be used with a display and a dedicated controller to be held by the user. The sensor unit is connected to a PC or an STB via USB and powered via it.
The sensor unit is equipped with several infrared LEDs on its sides and a camera capable of detecting infrared light (IR camera) in the center. Also, an object looking like a camera is mounted on each side of the unit. Probably because of its black color, it looks like the sensor unit of Microsoft Corp's "Kinect" motion controller.
The dedicated controller has several buttons and a silver semi-spherical part at its end. The semi-spherical part is seemingly used to reflect light from the infrared LEDs of the sensor unit. The shape of the controller slightly looks like the "PlayStation Move Motion Controller," a motion controller developed by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc (SCE). [...] Though the details of the motion input technologies used for the i-dong were not disclosed, motions are detected by using the IR camera, which is embedded in the center of the sensor unit, to receive the light reflected from the dedicated controller. The usage of the camera equipped on each side of the sensor unit remains unexplained, too.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: SixthAngel on November 27, 2010, 11:39:15 PM
Outside of the hilarious name I don't see the big deal. It's not more a rip-off than Kinect and Move are, the difference is this one is made by a Chinese company. Its not some vii or some other device designed to trick you, its legitimate motion control they showed a trade show and apparently was popular there. I'll see if I can see this around since its apparently being sold already.
The price is freaking ridiculous though.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: ThePerm on November 28, 2010, 06:19:33 PM
and because its made in china they probably wont be sued for patent infringement. No need to work around technology when you can just steal it!
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: oohhboy on December 12, 2010, 06:22:12 PM
Hahahaha, good to see that China is continuing it's proud tradition knocking things off without a care in the world. Not only that, they knock off at least 4 distinct companies at the same time. But to top it off in a strange reversal, this thing is actually more expensive than the real thing.
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The motion controller is already being sold in China for a price of Rmb1,480 (approx US$222.89, including the sensor device, two units of the dedicated controller, games and other parts such as the infrared light reflector).
Not to mention, it's technologically backwards and convoluted implementation that looks like it never left the prototype stage.
Not too surprised coming from the country that thinks some random beer (http://www.cracked.com/article_18895_7-things-from-america-that-are-insanely-popular-overseas.html) is some sort of nectar of the Gods.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: SixthAngel on December 14, 2010, 12:02:51 AM
Hahahaha, good to see that China is continuing it's proud tradition knocking things off without a care in the world. Not only that, they knock off at least 4 distinct companies at the same time. But to top it off in a strange reversal, this thing is actually more expensive than the real thing.
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The motion controller is already being sold in China for a price of Rmb1,480 (approx US$222.89, including the sensor device, two units of the dedicated controller, games and other parts such as the infrared light reflector).
Not to mention, it's technologically backwards and convoluted implementation that looks like it never left the prototype stage.
Not too surprised coming from the country that thinks some random beer (http://www.cracked.com/article_18895_7-things-from-america-that-are-insanely-popular-overseas.html) is some sort of nectar of the Gods.
If you're going to call a whole country ignorant make sure your head isn't up your own ass (http://www.unnecessaryumlaut.com/?p=4978). Its actually a new specialty beer by the same company that is made only China.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: oohhboy on December 14, 2010, 01:06:43 AM
$44 beer that has spent some time in a wooden casket is still a $44 beer which is only $44 because someone is stupid enough to pay $44. Seriously, beer is beer. No doubt it's only sold in China since no one else is retarded enough to buy it outside of tourists getting a bottle for novelty value. It functions as the same marketing gimmick as Golden Ice Cream (http://www.ice-cream-recipes.com/ice_cream_sundae_best.htm).
It's orders of magnitude less special than North Korean Beer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8132199.stm) which at least holds the distinction of being a North Korean Beer Which only cost half a euro a bottle and is said to be surprisingly good (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSEO35306620080310). Of course if your willing to put up with the moral implications of the beer being produced in a hell hole, produced from food that should be feeding it's own people, it a far more interesting product.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: SixthAngel on December 14, 2010, 06:40:56 AM
No doubt it's only sold in China since no one else is retarded enough to buy it outside of tourists getting a bottle for novelty value. It functions as the same marketing gimmick as Golden Ice Cream (http://www.ice-cream-recipes.com/ice_cream_sundae_best.htm).
My whole point was that you were disparaging a whole group of people for something that you were not only wrong about at first, but is a something that is everywhere there are rich or stupid people as you freely admitted.
The i-dong is pretty much guarrenteed to be worse than the Wii and its knockoffs but you have to remember that this is sold in a country where they haven't even officially released the systems. The only games in Chinese that I know of are hacked games and they only sell the sytems in electronics specialty shops since its all imported. This has to be going after the casual demo who doesn't walk into those places but might see it somewhere else. I bet it fails hard.
Making fun of knock offs in the videogame industry just rubs me the wrong way because the entire freaking industry is built of of ripping off other people. CoD:BO had the best selling debut ever and its a spinoff of a knockoff (Medal of Honor came first) The entire Playstation controller. Sony even used rumble without the patent and got sued about it. The huge Warcraft series is blatant ripoff of Warhammer. Halo stole so liberally from Aliens that the main character should be Ripley.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: oohhboy on December 14, 2010, 07:49:20 AM
Your kidding me right? It's one thing to make a knock off that is of poor quality and cheaper. But it's another thing recreate a product that is of low quality and is more expensive in a country that doesn't give two fucks about breaking laws. If this was just a Wii or move or Kinitic being ripped off instead of this asinine implementation, we can all laugh about the i-Dong and how it's called i-Dong because i-Dong know there is anything else funny about it otherwise. "Made in China" isn't a term that is unearned.
You can call that beer a speciality beer all you want, but it holds the ridiculous distinction of being a rip off by it's own company that specialize in making swill to pass off as beer. It's like going to Mac Donalds for their health menu items.
Making fun of knock offs in the videogame industry just rubs me the wrong way because the entire freaking industry is built of of ripping off other people. CoD:BO had the best selling debut ever and its a spinoff of a knockoff (Medal of Honor came first) The entire Playstation controller. Sony even used rumble without the patent and got sued about it. The huge Warcraft series is blatant ripoff of Warhammer. Halo stole so liberally from Aliens that the main character should be Ripley.
As much as I don't like people ripping off each other, strip off the veneer off a game and there isn't that many variations to it. Like anything, there are basic building blocks everyone has to use to make games. No matter how creative a game maybe, it has to take something from somewhere else.
You either embrace it or make fun of it all.
I get your first 3 examples, but Halo ripping off Aliens?!?! Halo is a rip off Marathon made by the same company linearized for mass consumption. Marathon is a rip off on DOOM and many science fiction novels dealing with AIs. DOOM may have ripped off the Space Marinetm off Aliens, but has to thank Satanists and the Bivle for most of it's inspiration.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 14, 2010, 08:10:58 AM
When I tell people I've been playing with my Wii they laugh at me. So I think I'll pass on the "iDong"...
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: SixthAngel on December 15, 2010, 12:02:52 AM
Your kidding me right? It's one thing to make a knock off that is of poor quality and cheaper. But it's another thing recreate a product that is of low quality and is more expensive in a country that doesn't give two fucks about breaking laws. If this was just a Wii or move or Kinitic being ripped off instead of this asinine implementation, we can all laugh about the i-Dong and how it's called i-Dong because i-Dong know there is anything else funny about it otherwise. "Made in China" isn't a term that is unearned.You can call that beer a speciality beer all you want, but it holds the ridiculous distinction of being a rip off by it's own company that specialize in making swill to pass off as beer. It's like going to Mac Donalds for their health menu items.
Stop using strawmen. I think the i-dong looks shitty and and I think the beer is incredibly overpriced.
I called you out for calling a group of people ignorant based on a factually incorrect article from a comedy website. Deal with it and move on. I have and won't be posting about this topic anymore.
I get your first 3 examples, but Halo ripping off Aliens?!?!
Watch Aliens again. The marines and the design of everything human is practically taken straight from it. The assault rifle and dropship were basically lifted entirely. The Colonel is obviously based on the marine leader as well. Then you have the flood/aliens. I personally think it was good choice because they don't need to introduce the human side at all. You know right away how they act and what kind of technology they have because you've seen aliens and it gives the marines an automatic degree of badassery.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: oohhboy on December 15, 2010, 03:26:34 AM
Stop using strawmen. I think the i-dong looks shitty and and I think the beer is incredibly overpriced.
I called you out for calling a group of people ignorant based on a factually incorrect article from a comedy website. Deal with it and move on. I have and won't be posting about this topic anymore.
You don't get to run away and neither do I. I chose the most apolitical product/event that is as silly as this. Would you rather I refer to China as that country that instigated the Great Leap Forward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward)? I am sure you will find something funny in there. If this was an American product, no doubt it it would be made fun of and then told to **** off back to Jersey Shore (http://www.google.com/images?q=guido&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=I3YITaXwDo2usAPdwY3eDg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CDIQsAQwAA&biw=1059&bih=963). Or is George Bush more to your liking? How about Iran (http://www.google.com/images?q=Iran+photoshop&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=NnoITaHqPILWtQPk0K25Dg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CC4QsAQwAQ)? Oh look how silly all those people are. Get off your high horse.
I don't like what you are insinuating who I am. It's not my problem that you are thin skinned, but it doesn't give you cart blanch to assume the worse of me.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 15, 2010, 07:19:58 AM
Guys, please stop talking politics and get back to discussing ding dongs.
Title: Re: China Presents: iDong - It's what you get when you combine Kinect + Move?
Post by: Stogi on December 15, 2010, 05:16:04 PM
