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Title: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: Penguin_Of_Thyme on September 29, 2010, 06:33:23 AM

Some previously purchased DSiWare titles will be transferable to the 3DS. 

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/24151

Nintendo has revealed that consumers will have the ability to move DSiWare purchases over to the 3DS at the recent Japanese 3DS event.

While Nintendo has yet to reveal how the transfer system will work, the company did note that some software will not be able to make the trip over to the new system. In addition, players will only be able to redownload their DSi Ware software a set number of times.

Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: NWR_Neal on September 29, 2010, 06:33:46 AM
Day 1 Purchase Confirmed 100%
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: Plugabugz on September 29, 2010, 06:46:26 AM
And this can't be done for Wii's because?
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2010, 08:21:08 AM
..."some"...

That word seems to be coming up a lot.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: Pale on September 29, 2010, 08:25:22 AM
The "some" word makes me want to throw up. Only partial backwards compatibility?


Here's to hoping the ones that don't work will be the lame alarm clocks and what not.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 29, 2010, 08:35:22 AM
This doesn't really affect me since I don't have a DSi.

I wonder if the 3DS will have the DSiware games avalable for DL.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: Peachylala on September 29, 2010, 09:46:16 AM
"Some" being games that Nintendo has sponsered or made/published themselves.
 
Guess Shantae will have to wait for 3DS then. =(
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 29, 2010, 09:49:27 AM
I think this is a good sign that Virtual Console and/or WiiWare games be will able to be re-downloaded on Wii 2.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: broodwars on September 29, 2010, 10:02:51 AM
"Some" being games that Nintendo has sponsered or made/published themselves.

Yeah, that "some" part of the article makes me suspicious as well.  Still, nice to see actual customer service out of Nintendo instead of them just making everyone double-dip.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 29, 2010, 10:07:12 AM
"Some" being games that Nintendo has sponsered or made/published themselves.
 
Guess Shantae will have to wait for 3DS then. =(

You are making it sound like only some games will be available. The wording makes it clear that most DSiWare games will be available and that only some will not. That means the majority will be.

Also, what the heck does Shantae have to do with this?
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: Pale on September 29, 2010, 10:27:46 AM
Ya know what amazes me about all the discussions regarding this going on on different forums right now?


The fact that people take this as a "good sign" that VC games will be downloadable without paying again on Wii2.  We shouldn't have to look for signs of this. This crap is a REQUIREMENT.


If Nintendo honestly tells someone that they have to rebuy games, their entire digital delivery strategy is garbage and I don't think I would ever be buying a Nintendo system again for that level of dishonestly and stupidity.


So yeah, in my opinion, they HAVE to solve this problem so it is not just a question of whether or not they have the feature, its a question of whether or not the feature will be implemented well.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: broodwars on September 29, 2010, 10:39:23 AM
Ya know what amazes me about all the discussions regarding this going on on different forums right now?


The fact that people take this as a "good sign" that VC games will be downloadable without paying again on Wii2.  We shouldn't have to look for signs of this. This crap is a REQUIREMENT.


If Nintendo honestly tells someone that they have to rebuy games, their entire digital delivery strategy is garbage and I don't think I would ever be buying a Nintendo system again for that level of dishonestly and stupidity.


So yeah, in my opinion, they HAVE to solve this problem so it is not just a question of whether or not they have the feature, its a question of whether or not the feature will be implemented well.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid we've become accustomed to Nintendo taking advantage of any situation where they think they can make money off of us.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on September 29, 2010, 10:49:43 AM
I'm interested in whether this means 3DS owners will be able to browse and shop DSiWare, outside of transferring purchases. I never got a DSi but would like to download some of those games.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: Caliban on September 29, 2010, 11:13:37 AM
Oh boy. Sure hope all of my DSiWare can be transfered.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: vudu on September 29, 2010, 01:40:55 PM
The "some" word makes me want to throw up. Only partial backwards compatibility?


Here's to hoping the ones that don't work will be the lame alarm clocks and what not.

You probably won't be able to transfer games that rely heavily on the internal camera.

The 3DS camera is in a different place than the DSi camera (above the top screen instead of on the hinge).
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: MegaByte on September 29, 2010, 04:32:53 PM
I'm interested in whether this means 3DS owners will be able to browse and shop DSiWare, outside of transferring purchases. I never got a DSi but would like to download some of those games.
The conference slides seem to indicate yes.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: Halbred on September 29, 2010, 04:35:06 PM
I'd bet money that the "some" modifier indicates only games that can be registered at Club Nintendo can be re-downloaded onto the 3DS.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 29, 2010, 04:40:17 PM
I'd bet money that the "some" modifier indicates only games that can be registered at Club Nintendo can be re-downloaded onto the 3DS.

Hal, have you downloaded any DSiWare games? If not, I should point out that AFAIK all DSiWare software can be registered (I haven't downloaded Apps like calendars and clocks). I have several third party DSiWare games and all were registered automatically, just like WiiWare games.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: vudu on September 29, 2010, 05:00:47 PM
I'd bet money that the "some" modifier indicates only games that can be registered at Club Nintendo can be re-downloaded onto the 3DS.

I'm starting to think that people just don't read my posts.  I already told you what games won't transfer over.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 29, 2010, 05:33:25 PM
Hal is just speculating, like you and me and everyone else since we don't have the actual info.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: vudu on September 29, 2010, 05:36:21 PM
Yeah, but my theory seems pretty plausible.  Halbred's doesn't even make sense.  ;)
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 05:42:50 PM
Pale, I agree with you that this is an absolute requirement and that anything else is completely unacceptable.

However there have been numerous times where I think "why would anyone ever buy this?" and they do.  I think "how could anyone defend this decision?" and the apologists just come out of the woodwork.  Hell, I get upset when ports and remakes are released in place of new content under the very rational argument that I do not wish to spend money to buy something I already own but I always see people jumping out of their seat when such re-releases are announced.  How often do we see someone complaining that such-and-such feature is not in the Wii version but they go and buy it anyway.  Within videogame fandom I am astonished of how much slack some people give these companies.

I am confident that if Nintendo did not allow you to transfer games it would cause some grumbling but very few would actually not buy Nintendo's next system or cease to give Nintendo their business because of it.  I imagine the majority would in fact buy those games all over again.  I consider it a requirement for Nintendo to do it but I do not EXPECT them to.  This was still a pleasent surprise for me.  I know most of the videogame market does not think like I do so such a move would not have as negative effect as it logically should and I know that Nintendo knows this.

Hell the DSi itself is a prime example of this phenomenon.  Who here or on ANY videogame forum did not know that the DSi was just a stop gap and that the REAL DS successor was right on the doorstep?  And yet tons of people who already owned a DS went out and bought a DSi anyway.  Malibu Stacy has a new hat and I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT!!!
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: Halbred on September 29, 2010, 06:27:11 PM
Yeah, but my theory seems pretty plausible.  Halbred's doesn't even make sense.  ;)

*runs away crying*
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS 
Post by: stevey on September 29, 2010, 06:37:09 PM
Ya know what amazes me about all the discussions regarding this going on on different forums right now?

The fact that people take this as a "good sign" that VC games will be downloadable without paying again on Wii2.  We shouldn't have to look for signs of this. This crap is a REQUIREMENT.

If Nintendo honestly tells someone that they have to rebuy games, their entire digital delivery strategy is garbage and I don't think I would ever be buying a Nintendo system again for that level of dishonestly and stupidity.

So yeah, in my opinion, they HAVE to solve this problem so it is not just a question of whether or not they have the feature, its a question of whether or not the feature will be implemented well.

It amaze me that people still think they own their DLC. But that is the whole point of DLC. Not owning your copy of the game and playing it as long as Nintendo WILL LET YOU to and no longer. You sign all your rights and soul away with the EULA.

DEATH TO DLC! Long live physical game media!
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 06:54:28 PM
Quote
It amaze me that people still think they own their DLC.

I think it is less about thinking that we do and more thinking that we SHOULD.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: NWR_Neal on September 29, 2010, 07:04:01 PM
I agree with vudu.

In all honesty, I'm 100 percent ok with the 'some' modifier. If I can't play Face Pilot on my 3DS, I won't be too bummed out. If I can't play my precious Art Style games, then someone at Nintendo gonna get capped. Fortunately, I think that won't be the issue.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2010, 07:13:09 PM
I agree with vudu.

In all honesty, I'm 100 percent ok with the 'some' modifier. If I can't play Face Pilot on my 3DS, I won't be too bummed out. If I can't play my precious Art Style games, then someone at Nintendo gonna get capped. Fortunately, I think that won't be the issue.

You would think that.

My love for Nintendo is like a bad relationship.  I know they're gonna hurt me, but I keep coming back anyway.

I *want* to believe this transfer service will work smoothly and the "some" isn't that big of a deal.  But then I remember it's Nintendo.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: Mop it up on September 29, 2010, 07:39:14 PM
It would seem this would be as easy as transferring over the DSi shop account, if it's possible. Nintendo isn't going to want the games playable on more than one system, and that's the best way to do it.
Title: Re: DSiWare Purchases Can Be Redownloaded on 3DS
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2010, 08:06:50 PM
It would seem this would be as easy as transferring over the DSi shop account, if it's possible.

Seems like it should have been that easy on the DSi/DSiXL issue.