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Title: 3DS Will Feature Handheld Virtual Console
Post by: Crimm on September 29, 2010, 02:25:39 AM

Nintendo confirmed Game Boy and Game Boy Color titles will be downloadable.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/24144

At their press event today, Nintendo announced that the 3DS will feature an online store similar to Wii's Virtual Console.  Titles for the Game Boy and Game Boy Color platforms will be available for download, and Nintendo used Super Mario Land and The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX as example titles for the service.

Nintendo will also be selling "Classic Games" that feature 3D enhancements. While they were mentioned alongside the handheld Virtual Console, few details were offered, and it is unclear if these games are download titles.  It is likely that these are similar to the 3DS Classic Collection game demos that were available at E3.

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Post by: AV on September 29, 2010, 06:57:08 AM
woohoo .


will game boy games have added color and 3d or just be b/w port
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 29, 2010, 08:36:42 AM
Probably my favorite news from the conference. Pretty excited for 3DS.
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 29, 2010, 11:27:30 AM
I was right all along.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 12:19:15 PM
Hey, Nintendo does an obvious great idea! Nice!

Now I can just sit back and wait for someone with very limited technical know-how to insist that all these VC games should have 3D enhancement while maintaining the typical VC pricing.
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Post by: ThomasO on September 29, 2010, 12:28:06 PM
Actually, they announced that all the GB and GBA games will have 3D enhancement.
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 29, 2010, 01:06:43 PM
Actually, they announced that all the GB and GBA games will have 3D enhancement.

Minsih Cap in 3D?
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Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on September 29, 2010, 01:34:40 PM
I'm a little surprised there was no confirmation of support from third-party handhelds like the Sega GameGear. Regardless, I am very happy to hear that this pipe dream has at last become reality. Bring on Metroid: Zero Mission, one of the two Metroid games I have not had the pleasure of playing.
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Post by: vudu on September 29, 2010, 01:48:08 PM
I'm pretty sure they only announced GB and GBC games for the VC service.  GBA was notably absent.
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Post by: broodwars on September 29, 2010, 01:51:47 PM
Well, I wonder how many years it'll take them to bring the 3DS Virtual Console down to 1 mediocre release every 1.5 months.  Still, everyone asked for it, so it's nice to have it there (though I'm sure the games will be just as overpriced as they are on the Wii VC).
 
And did anyone else notice that the tagline for this when you highlight the topic is "3DS Will Feature Handheld"?   ;)
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 02:04:48 PM
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Actually, they announced that all the GB and GBA games will have 3D enhancement.

Where in the news blurb does it say that?  Do you have a link to such an announcement?
 
How the hell could they add 3D to old black & white 2D Game Boy games?  How do you make a flat image like a 2D sprite pop out of the screen?  I can't even conceptualize what it would even look like.
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Post by: vudu on September 29, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
How do you make a flat image like a 2D sprite pop out of the screen?  I can't even conceptualize what it would even look like.

Ever seen a Virtual Boy?
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Post by: Louieturkey on September 29, 2010, 02:26:12 PM
I'm pretty sure they only announced GB and GBC games for the VC service.  GBA was notably absent.
This is what Joystiq is saying as well.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
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Ever seen a Virtual Boy?

Duh!  Brainfart on my end.  ;D
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Post by: Mop it up on September 29, 2010, 08:32:16 PM
If they want to have pricing consistent with the VC pricing...

$3 for Game Boy, $5 for GBC, $8 for GBA.
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 29, 2010, 08:39:24 PM
I'm a little surprised there was no confirmation of support from third-party handhelds like the Sega GameGear. Regardless, I am very happy to hear that this pipe dream has at last become reality. Bring on Metroid: Zero Mission, one of the two Metroid games I have not had the pleasure of playing.

If the wii VC is any indication then we will eventually see third party handhelds on the 3DS virtual console. This is one of the mostexciting things about the 3DS and one good reason to buy it. I just hope tht GBA games find their way onto the service. I would love to replay all the good titles for tha console once again.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 29, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
that would be ridiculous though.

$2 for GB
$3 for GBC
$5 for GBA

sounds much more reasonable.

I wonder how long it will be before they add Game Gear, Lynx, WS, NGP, G.com, VB, PSP.... (yeah I went there :P: )

and if they're gonna do all that, I wonder if eventually there will be NES, SNES, N64, etc etc from the Wii VC shop too
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 29, 2010, 08:44:46 PM
that would be ridiculous though.

$2 for GB
$3 for GBC
$5 for GBA

sounds much more reasonable.

I wonder how long it will be before they add Game Gear, Lynx, WS, NGP, G.com, VB, PSP.... (yeah I went there :P: : )

and if they're gonna do all that, I wonder if eventually there will be NES, SNES, N64, etc etc from the Wii VC shop too

I recently wrote a post where I speculated what consoles and games would be on the service.
 
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=32215.0 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=32215.0)
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Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2010, 08:52:49 PM
I question some of y'all's line of thinking.

Nintendo priced Game and Watch games at $2 on the DSiWare service.  Do you really think Tetris, Super Mario Land 2, Link's Awakening and the Donkey Kong Land titles are worth the same as a Game and Watch game?
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Post by: Mop it up on September 29, 2010, 08:55:22 PM
that would be ridiculous though.

$2 for GB
$3 for GBC
$5 for GBA

sounds much more reasonable.
That isn't realistic. After licencing and ESRB rating fees, $2 would not produce a profit.

I figure it fits with the Wii VC because NES games are about 10% of their original price. Game Boy games were $30 so that means $3 is 10%. The NES games are also about 60% the price of SNES games at $8; 60% of $5 is $3.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 29, 2010, 09:00:27 PM

I question some of y'all's line of thinking.

Nintendo priced Game and Watch games at $2 on the DSiWare service.  Do you really think Tetris, Super Mario Land 2, Link's Awakening and the Donkey Kong Land titles are worth the same as a Game and Watch game?

Nintendo is ridiculous though.

I'm just stating what would be reasonable.
$2 for a game and watch is for those people that [this portion of sentence is missing] and that ain't me.
But then again, I'm also not likely to buy any GB, or GBC games so I'm not the intended audience for this service.


That isn't realistic. After licencing and ESRB rating fees, $2 would not produce a profit.



I'm just stating what would be reasonable.
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Post by: Art_de_Cat on September 30, 2010, 12:00:44 AM
I'm a little surprised there was no confirmation of support from third-party handhelds like the Sega GameGear. Regardless, I am very happy to hear that this pipe dream has at last become reality. Bring on Metroid: Zero Mission, one of the two Metroid games I have not had the pleasure of playing.

I am sure the other portable systems will be added on, just like the newer older systems for the Virtual Console on WII
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 30, 2010, 12:29:20 AM
Consoles for 3DS virtual console:
 
Gameboy
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advance
Atari Lynx
Game Gear
Neo Geo Pocket Color
Game and Watch
Virtual Boy(3DSware remakes)
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Post by: gojira on September 30, 2010, 12:49:08 AM
Consoles for 3DS virtual console:
 

Atari Lynx


Stun Runner 3D = mind blown
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 30, 2010, 01:08:42 AM
Could Atari Lynx even be on the service?
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Post by: Mop it up on September 30, 2010, 01:35:41 AM
Probably not, but even if it is possible, I don't think there are enough worthwhile games for it to be worth it. You don't see the Atari Jaguar on the Wii Virtual Console.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 30, 2010, 12:35:33 PM
Would any of you actually buy non-Nintendo portable games?  Seriously I can only think of a very small handful of Game Gear of Neo Geo Pocket Color games that I would consider worth owning.

Whatever the price is it will likely be a little bit higher than we would like.
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Post by: vudu on September 30, 2010, 01:49:29 PM
I'm hoping Nintendo ditches the "single price for all games on the same system" pricing scheme.

A GB game from 1989 (that's not Tetris or SML) isn't worth the same amount as a GB game from 1998.  All games are not created equal.  There's no reason why Nintendo should feel the need to sell them at the same price.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 30, 2010, 04:23:28 PM
vudu, that makes sense but I figure Nintendo would abuse it.  They would have their normal GB pricing which will be more than what we would pay for Alleyway but a bargain for Link's Awakening and then they would just charge more for the better games.  I doubt they would make the worse games cost less, it would just raise the price of the better.

Right now Urban Champion and Super Mario Bros 3 each cost 5 bucks.  That's a big rip-off for Urban Champion but a perfectly reasonable price for a classic like SMB3.  If they keep a fixed price at least we'll know we'll get a good deal for some of the more rare or exceptional games.

It would be great though if they went the opposite direction and recognized that certain games are not worth the single price.  It would be nice if the pricing was $5 or lower.  But they won't so let's not give them the idea to raise the price of the better games.
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Post by: Mop it up on September 30, 2010, 05:42:03 PM
I don't think Nintendo will ever ditch the fix pricing scheme that they've used since the NES, they don't even lower the price of their games anymore. Sure, Nintendo has before talked about how games should be priced as what they are worth, but a company like Nintendo think all their games are worth full/high prices.
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 30, 2010, 05:44:25 PM
Is it harder to emualte home console or handheld games?
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Post by: Mop it up on September 30, 2010, 05:56:10 PM
Whether it is home or portable is irrelevant, it is all about the hardware itself. It wouldn't matter with a console, there'd be no difference between console and handheld, but a handheld would have a more difficult time emulating a home system if the display resolution of the handheld is smaller than the original system.
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Post by: Kytim89 on September 30, 2010, 06:11:56 PM
Whether it is home or portable is irrelevant, it is all about the hardware itself. It wouldn't matter with a console, there'd be no difference between console and handheld, but a handheld would have a more difficult time emulating a home system if the display resolution of the handheld is smaller than the original system.

This is why we wont see home consoles on the 3DS virtual console, right? I would prefer that they just kept the two seperate and offered each a uniqe arsenal of games.
 
What does a virtual handheld service mean for the wii virtual console? If Nintendo is going to offer VC for a new system, they will have to push it into the main stream and this must mean that they might speed up the wii virtual console once again.
 
I have a strong feeling that Game Gear and Neo Geo Pocket color games are going to show up on the service. I keep saying it, but I think the slide pad on the 3DS could accomodate NGPC because of the similarity with its D-pad.
 
I would love to be able to play all the older Nintendo competitor handhelds without having to worry about batteries or back lighting.
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Post by: MegaByte on September 30, 2010, 06:15:26 PM
If we don't see all console games on here, I wonder if we'll still see TurboGrafx-16/PC Engine games.  The game cards were so small, they were used interchangeably between the TurboGrafx-16 and TurboExpress handheld systems, and Hudson seems to be pushing out their games wherever they can.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 30, 2010, 06:31:39 PM
If they put console games on the 3DS VC and portable games on the Wii VC then it opens the whole can of worms about transfering games between the two systems.  Ideally if I buy a VC game I should be able to play it on either my Wii or my 3DS.  Well if the two VCs are clearly seperate with no crossover then that doesn't really come up.
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Post by: Halbred on October 01, 2010, 06:40:38 PM
Straight GB games will be one price and GBC games will be higher. I can see GBA games, should they ever appear, as the $10 "N64" games of this service.

On a happy note, we might well see Shantae (GBC) release for the service. Capcom would have to get on board, though.
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Post by: Kytim89 on October 01, 2010, 07:13:30 PM
Straight GB games will be one price and GBC games will be higher. I can see GBA games, should they ever appear, as the $10 "N64" games of this service.

On a happy note, we might well see Shantae (GBC) release for the service. Capcom would have to get on board, though.

Should they appear? You mean when they appear, right? This is one reason why I want this serive to revisit all the good GBA games. Is there any reason for why they will never appear? I mean the GBA is a handheld SNES and I do not see any problem emulating the system on the 3DS.
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Post by: Halbred on October 01, 2010, 07:32:37 PM
I say that because it wasn't specifically announced. Just GB and GBC games were.
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Post by: Shaymin on October 01, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
There's already GBA games on DSiWare for 800 Reggies, but I could see them moving up to 1000 if it comes to pass.

I'd prefer to see 200 (GB)/500 (GBC)/800 (GBA) in line with DSiWare pricing, though.
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Post by: Kytim89 on October 01, 2010, 09:08:07 PM
I say that because it wasn't specifically announced. Just GB and GBC games were.

Why would they include those consoles and not the GBA?
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Post by: Mop it up on October 01, 2010, 11:57:43 PM
They might not have the GBA portion ready yet. I'm sure it'll be on the service eventually, but it might not be there day one.
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Post by: Kytim89 on October 05, 2010, 12:20:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSsOTBETVAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSsOTBETVAg)
 
This is a really cool video and shows off a bunch of handhelds. Most of these will end up on the Virtual Handheld service.