Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 27, 2003, 11:45:48 AM
Nintendo's pre-E3 website has updated with the following remark about Mario Kart: Double Dash:
Pack eight players into your living room and turn up the fun when you connect two Nintendo GameCubes via the Broadband adaptor. It's intense action coming soon to 2 screens very near you!
We first told you that GameCube is capable of connecting via ethernet cable at last year's E3...where we actually saw the feature demonstrated. Nintendo is expected to unveil a comprehensive GameCube networking plan at this year's E3, including games that will support the feature and possibly hardware that will make LAN gaming easier to set up.
Thanks to the guys at Console.Be for the tip!
Post by: Michael_82 on April 27, 2003, 12:14:38 PM
Post by: Gharakh on April 27, 2003, 12:39:46 PM
Post by: Locke Cole on April 27, 2003, 12:57:47 PM
Post by: Arbok on April 27, 2003, 01:08:17 PM
If I am not mistaken can't you take Mario Kart online, beacuse of the LAN "mode," through Gamespy much like HALO back in the day?
Post by: grap3fruitman on April 27, 2003, 01:10:48 PM
Post by: The Doc on April 27, 2003, 01:22:01 PM
The Doc
Post by: drpateman on April 27, 2003, 01:52:20 PM
Post by: demoncrono on April 27, 2003, 02:36:35 PM
Anyway,this LAN thing won't help me at all. As I said, I'm unable to get together with friends,and besides I only have enough friends for a 4player game anyway. So, I'm afraid this nice little thing won't get my money....sadly......
sigh...
Post by: DustinRiley on April 27, 2003, 03:00:18 PM
Post by: drpateman on April 27, 2003, 05:01:01 PM
So much more fun playing with 8 of ur mates in one room rather than be separated where u cant gang up on plaers by evil looks or jank the occasional controller out to be responded with beatings
This will be awesome me and my friends love micro machines V3 ont he N64 8 players RULE!!!!
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 27, 2003, 05:23:03 PM
YOU CAN PLAY MARIO KART ONLINE!!!!!!!
Strawberry Clock is kind of the portal.
Post by: Locke Cole on April 27, 2003, 05:29:27 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 27, 2003, 06:08:31 PM
you can play Mario Kart online using the LAN connection of course. Just because it's intended to be played offline in no way prevents you from tricking the game into thinking that an internet connection is a LAN connection. Internet = LAN with broadband access.
Post by: Smithy on April 27, 2003, 07:24:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
you can play Mario Kart online using the LAN connection of course. Just because it's intended to be played offline in no way prevents you from tricking the game into thinking that an internet connection is a LAN connection. Internet = LAN with broadband access.
The game may not run well with a higher latency though(just because it wasn't designed that way). Hopefully Nintendo will make it flexible though. I'd really like play with some friends via the net. I can already vision Nintendo brand crossover cables in the store.
Post by: PIAC on April 27, 2003, 11:09:20 PM
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Originally posted by: DustinRiley
I was expecting more than simply connecting 2 Gamecube's via a crossover cable. I was expecting a 3rd adapter for the bottom of the gamecube cube, a wireless Gamecube LAN Adapter (GC Wifi), so you wouldn't have to have 2 TV's in the same room of the house.
just get like an ass long ethernet cable, you could be in 2 houses if it was long enough
Post by: JoeSmashBro on April 28, 2003, 01:56:10 AM
Tunneling will be lame because of lag that is unaccounted for in the software.
The fact that Nintendo won't put a game online may be "good business sense" to some people but it's just damn annoying to me.
Post by: JB on April 28, 2003, 03:45:21 AM
Post by: Kulock on April 28, 2003, 04:58:45 AM
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Originally posted by: grap3fruitman
Yes, it is possible to do that. So anyone that wants to play online still can through a method called tunneling.
...Because reverse engineering is certainly a practically-instantaneous process not at all facing not only technical difficulties but questionable legality, and certainly Nintendo has never filed suit against another company in order to get something they didn't like or think was representative of "Nintendo quality" stopped.
And as someone else pointed out, there should be virtually no lag issues when you're talking about just a cable inbetween two GCs, it might not be flexible enough to handle unexpected significant lag or lower-bandwidth connections well.
I doubt Nintendo is "unofficially" relying on Gamespy to do this for them, they don't work like that. If they had wanted Gamespy-style linkup play to be available, they would've announced an official agreement in a press release, and then have forgotten about what they planned to do by four weeks later. ;D Although some Gamespy development on Gamecube was announced (maybe just for availability), as far as I remember there's been no real link between them and Nintendo. Yet. (Maybe that's Nintendo's ace in the hole about this? Nah, probably not, the E3 site would've said.)
Oh, and hello, grap3. ;D
Post by: JB on April 28, 2003, 06:06:55 AM
Post by: Nintendork SP on April 28, 2003, 06:16:38 AM
I feel sorry for you guys who can't get the freinds,
I would be your friend if I could but hell I have a computer gaming club at our school that will be perfect for this!! WEEEE!
Post by: Arbok on April 28, 2003, 12:56:03 PM
Post by: thepoga on April 28, 2003, 04:55:07 PM
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Originally posted by: JoeSmashBro
It wouldn't cost Nintendo very much to put in some freaking IP address support. I'll find my own server or RUN my own server, if they just put in some IP support. It's like playing freaking Tetrinet. The people that made Tetrinet don't have to pay anything.
Tunneling will be lame because of lag that is unaccounted for in the software.
The fact that Nintendo won't put a game online may be "good business sense" to some people but it's just damn annoying to me.
ummm... it DOES cost a lot of money to run a server. not a server like with CS or something. tetrinet isnt really on a server is it? (i dunno this so whatever). for us normal folks who cant control the universe, it costs a lot of money to get the equipment, and you need constant maitenence for the server. there will always be errors and things like that. nintendo doesnt have much of a following of internet using people. if they were going to make a profit, theyd probably have to charge like 50 dollars or up a month. I WOULD like internet support too though. Tunneling lags a lot sometimes. its annoying to me too that they arent in the position to make some games hat would work well online possible. oh well. i wish i could be bill gates for a day and donate all his money to nintendo. then after a day i would revert to my own body again and play intendo games that have millions of katrillions of dollars of funding. or something. yeah...
Post by: BlkPaladin on April 28, 2003, 10:01:10 PM
Post by: yrrab436 on April 29, 2003, 09:15:53 AM
How does this relate to Nintendo? I think Nintendo should embrace the technology that already exists. For example, I'm living in a duplex with one of my sisters. Downstairs, another of my sisters lives. She and her kids have a GCN, and so do I. We already have a three computer network, one of them downstairs. It would be nice to be able to unplug two of the Ethernet cables from the computers and plug them into the GCNs, forming an instant connection. This is how standard Ethernet stuff works. The router (with switch), switch, or hub handles the traffic direction (I think).
If I understand it correctly, if Nintendo follows the Ethernet technology already in existence routers (with switches), switches, and hubs or any other Ethernet stuff I don’t know about should work. The computers (be they Macs, PCs, Xboxs, or GCNs) don't care about what happens in the middle as long as the communication happens. As far as the Internet thing goes, even broadband is significantly slower than 10mbps Ethernet and if Nintendo uses FastEthernet (pretty much the standard now at 100mbps), broadband is about 100 to 50 times slower. I guess it all depends how much bandwidth the game needs. Even with online tricks, you'd still only be able to connect two GCNs though.
Post by: JB on April 29, 2003, 10:05:07 AM
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Originally posted by: yrrab436
I hope Nintendo doesn't pull "an AOL." AOL tends to use nonstandard garbage. For example, you have to buy an "AOL compatible" router to share an AOL Broadband connection, and such a connection isn't “always on” or compatible with any console gaming network.
Nintendo has already "embraced" standard technology since the broadband adapter(which you can already buy) is nothing more than an ethernet adapter.
What I was talking about in my post was the software the GC would use to communicate with another GC.
Post by: yrrab436 on April 29, 2003, 10:54:20 AM
Post by: JB on April 29, 2003, 01:44:02 PM
If the broadband adapter didn't use standard ethernet nobody would be able to use it to play PSO.
