Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: broodwars on April 25, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
Title: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
With all the stuff that's coming out lately on VC and WiiWare (and the fact that I can actually play it all comfortably now with my new Classic Controller Pro), it looks like it's finally time for me to upgrade to a new SD card. My current one's only 1 GB, and I've had to do some clever rearranging to keep the stuff I absolutely want on my SD card or System Memory. I've held back on getting a new one until the prices started to come down, and it looks like they have. Amazon has a pretty good price right now for an 8 GB model, but can anyone tell me for sure if the Wii will accept this card?
With 8x the storage capacity, I should be able to redownload all the old stuff I had to delete and will probably be set for the rest of the Wii's lifecycle.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: ShyGuy on April 25, 2010, 12:15:03 AM
The Wii likes my 8gb card. I'm pretty sure it can read any standard SDHC card up to 32gb.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2010, 12:17:22 AM
The Wii likes my 8gb card. I'm pretty sure it can read any standard SDHC card up to 32gb.
Alright, good to know. 32 gb is a tad excessive for the amount of stuff I download, but 8 gb should be just fine. I was just wary since reading the comments some people noted that some devices can't read the SDHC cards.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 25, 2010, 12:19:57 AM
Yeah there was a update that happened at GDC I think a year ago that makes it so that 32 GB SDHC cards are accepted. At the time of the update 32 GB cards were I think $100. They likely came down in price a little bit.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
$2 more than the amazon one but much faster data transfer(class 2 vs class 4)
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Kytim89 on April 25, 2010, 01:04:23 AM
If the 3DS uses SD cards and it has a movie player it will need biiger SD cards with more storage to hold the video file because they are huge. I used wii video 9 to put some movies on my wii(converted them .avi) and they took up about three and a half gigabytes on my wii's 8 GB card. After all of the downloads, I have about 57,000 blocks of memory on my card. I have used about 5,000 blocks of memory for all my VC games.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2010, 01:31:12 AM
that should solve your problems for a decent price, and it's even quicker than the last card I liked to.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: UncleBob on April 25, 2010, 02:09:02 AM
You know, flash memory isn't something that I'd worry about buying "bigger" for possible future needs.
You could buy the 8GB card for under $20 now or the $16GB card for more than $40 Now.
By the time you actually need more than 8GB, you'll likely be able to get the 16GB card for under $20. And then you'll have the back-up 8GB card and have spent about the same amount of money.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2010, 02:20:16 AM
You know, flash memory isn't something that I'd worry about buying "bigger" for possible future needs.
You could buy the 8GB card for under $20 now or the $16GB card for more than $40 Now.
By the time you actually need more than 8GB, you'll likely be able to get the 16GB card for under $20. And then you'll have the back-up 8GB card and have spent about the same amount of money.
That's pretty much the theory I'm working with. I only need 8 GB (and that's probably still way more than I'll ever need, judging by how infrequently great WiiWare and VC titles trickle out), so I'm only buying 8 GB. With the way that these things drop in price over time, by the time I need anything bigger (if ever), the cards will be pretty cheap to replace.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2010, 02:24:04 AM
Just so you know, my second post was directed at Kytim since he was worried about using up his 8GB too quickly.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 25, 2010, 03:58:57 AM
8 GB is all you need, and probably much more than you need. My massive library of VC and WiiWare games isn't even that close to taking up half of my 8 GB card.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 25, 2010, 04:30:01 AM
Ask yourself if you really need an 8gb card. Wouldn't a 4gb or even 2gb fill your needs? You could also go with multiple cards. If you need 8gb of space it may make more sense to have two 4gb or four 2gb cards instead of one 8gb. I might be wrong, but I think you can get the same capacity spread out over multiple small cards for cheaper than on one single huge card. If nothing else, having multiple cards means you aren't putting all your eggs in a single basket, which means if something happens to that 2gb or 4gb card (lost, stolen, broke, etc.) then its not as huge a loss as if it were an 8gb one.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: KDR_11k on April 25, 2010, 08:59:42 AM
My 2GB is full, I also use it as the fridge for my DSi.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 25, 2010, 05:16:08 PM
My fridge lacks Smirnoff Ice.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 25, 2010, 05:42:40 PM
back in my emulation days, i used to have 816 nes games on a cd, and 400 snes games on another cd...no way you'll run out of space on VC games.
VC games take up more space. I'm pretty sure each VC game comes packed in with the emulator. It makes the game's file size larger, but makes sure each game will emulate properly. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Mop it up on April 25, 2010, 10:37:00 PM
I've heard that certain SD cards over 2GB might not be recognized by games released before the update. For example, Animal Crossing City Folk might not be able to save photos to larger SD cards.
I haven't heard of people having an issue with Shop Channel downloads, though.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 25, 2010, 11:16:02 PM
Additional example,
Guitar Hero: World Tour does not recognize SDHC cards, either.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 26, 2010, 11:38:22 AM
back in my emulation days, i used to have 816 nes games on a cd, and 400 snes games on another cd...no way you'll run out of space on VC games.
Isn't this line of conversation against the forum rules?
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Kytim89 on April 26, 2010, 11:45:25 AM
I have about 1,000 swim suit model pictures on my photo channel stored on my SD card. I plan to stuff as many on there as possible and I also have several music tracks that I like to have on the wii.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 26, 2010, 01:25:09 PM
I have about 1,000 swim suit model pictures on my photo channel stored on my SD card. I plan to stuff as many on there as possible and I also have several music tracks that I like to have on the wii.
Does anyone know where I can get pictures of Princess Peach in a swimsuit? I need it for my Wii. :P
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2010, 01:32:35 PM
I have about 1,000 swim suit model pictures on my photo channel stored on my SD card. I plan to stuff as many on there as possible and I also have several music tracks that I like to have on the wii.
Does anyone know where I can get pictures of Princess Peach in a swimsuit? I need it for my Wii. :P
Paging stevey.... paging stevey
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 26, 2010, 01:50:26 PM
I just looked and there are some disturbing images of that.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: ThePerm on April 26, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
back in my emulation days, i used to have 816 nes games on a cd, and 400 snes games on another cd...no way you'll run out of space on VC games.
Isn't this line of conversation against the forum rules?
it implies a past tense, and whose to say they weren't all legal homebrew games ;) i much prefer virtual console to play games, there are usually problems with non-official emulation. Punchout for instance has been documented to not work well for most emulators because it included an extra processing chip for larger sprites, plus the Wii controller makes an ideal nes controller replacement. When I used to emulate it was before the video game companies had a reasonable solution to play old style games, there was an unavailability. People really wanted to play the classic style but couldn't. It seemed like Nintendo and other companies would never re-release old titles and had turned their back. However, Virtual Console fixed this and you should buy the games. Still aint nothing like the real thing. Take your cartridge, put it under your shirt, blow on it(i don't give a **** if they say it doesn't work, it does..ritual bitches, I refurbished my NES anyhow) stick it in your machine just right, i bought a dogbone nes controller for my ol' intenda. Although since i refurbished my nes, none of my Tengen games work, ****.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Mop it up on April 26, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
back in my emulation days, i used to have 816 nes games on a cd, and 400 snes games on another cd...no way you'll run out of space on VC games.
Isn't this line of conversation against the forum rules?
No, discussion of emulators and ROMs is not against the rules (but is not encouraged). Only providing or asking for ROMs is against the rules.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Stratos on April 27, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
I have a non-HDSC 4-gig card that works with both Rock Band 2 and World Tour. It only becomes an issue when I then run WW/VC games off of it because it 'forgets' that the music games can read it. I usually just have to boot the music games without the card in and then hot swap if that is the case but outside of that I have no problems. With AC I just have to pull it out and reinsert it into my Wii during play and it works just fine if it ever has an issue with it.
I figure once I need more room I'll just get a true SDHC card and store all of my WW/VC/other files on that and use the 4gig exclusively for my music games.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: KDR_11k on April 28, 2010, 01:30:15 AM
Wait, isn't non-HC SD limited to 2GB?
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2010, 02:09:45 AM
In the official spec, yes. Didn't stop some manufacturers from sidestepping it, creating unofficial "high capacity" cards.
Recognition of the extra 2GB is then a crap shoot among the devices you use it on.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Stratos on April 28, 2010, 02:45:19 AM
It sneaks by because it is actually something like 3.98 gigs or something so it is not quite 4.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 28, 2010, 03:31:29 AM
It sneaks by because it is actually something like 3.98 gigs or something so it is not quite 4.
The filesystem takes up some space. When you have a "blank" media its never completely blank because it always has some sort of filesystem on it. So that's why a media will show less free space than what you expect.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: KDR_11k on April 28, 2010, 01:40:32 PM
No, that's because manufacturers love using base 10 prefixes (k is 1000) while the size displays in most software use base 2 prefixes (k is 1024).
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Mop it up on April 28, 2010, 04:53:08 PM
Aren't both true? Isn't that the reason that the blocks of GameCube memory cards are all weird numbers? 59 instead of 64, 251 instead of 256, 1019 instead of 1024... there's a format file on there that uses 5 blocks, I believe. I've also heard that sometimes the file shows up in the memory card management screen. If you delete it, the memory card is unusable.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: KDR_11k on April 28, 2010, 05:16:02 PM
The FS takes some space but usually it's not much and the reason you see values like 3.98GB is because of the different prefix interpretations.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 29, 2010, 10:37:33 AM
KDR, we're both right. Filesystems do matter, because you will notice a difference in the space a more advanced FS like NTFS will take up as opposed to a more simplistic one like FAT32.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 29, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
My fridge has Smirnoff.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: broodwars on May 04, 2010, 08:15:15 PM
My 8 GB Class 2 SD Card finally arrived today (a week late with no tracking info on 1st Class Shipping. Thanks, ever-incompetent US Postal Service), so I'm just going through the Wii Shop Channel stocking up on everything I've previously purchased. Damn, I hadn't realized till now just how many VC/WiiWare titles I've bought since the service started. Transfer times are dramatically better on this card than on my previous 1 gb (which is now a secondary storage device for my PS3).
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 04, 2010, 09:00:25 PM
You should have gotten a class 4 for a and extra $2, much faster transfer rate.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: broodwars on May 04, 2010, 09:04:48 PM
You should have gotten a class 4 for a and extra $2, much faster transfer rate.
I'm actually pretty satisfied with what I got. It takes around 30-45 seconds to copy the larger N64/WiiWare titles, and I can live with that. I wanted a lot more space and a little faster transfer rate, and I got it.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Louieturkey on May 05, 2010, 03:26:59 PM
You should have gotten a class 4 for a and extra $2, much faster transfer rate.
I'm actually pretty satisfied with what I got. It takes around 30-45 seconds to copy the larger N64/WiiWare titles, and I can live with that. I wanted a lot more space and a little faster transfer rate, and I got it.
For the extra $2, it probably would have been around 20-25 seconds for larger files.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Mop it up on May 05, 2010, 04:14:48 PM
If having those extra 20 seconds are worth the $2 for then go for it, but copying files is a one-time deal so it doesn't really matter if it takes a bit longer.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 05, 2010, 04:26:05 PM
My 8 GB Class 2 SD Card finally arrived today (a week late with no tracking info on 1st Class Shipping. Thanks, ever-incompetent US Postal Service), so I'm just going through the Wii Shop Channel stocking up on everything I've previously purchased. Damn, I hadn't realized till now just how many VC/WiiWare titles I've bought since the service started. Transfer times are dramatically better on this card than on my previous 1 gb (which is now a secondary storage device for my PS3).
I'm not saying it wasn't the post office's fault it was late, but how do you know it wasn't the seller's fault? If there was no tracking it may be because the seller didn't provide it and he/she may have shipped it late. Just saying. Of course, I wouldn't put problems like that beyond the post office either, they are the government after all.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: broodwars on May 05, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
My 8 GB Class 2 SD Card finally arrived today (a week late with no tracking info on 1st Class Shipping. Thanks, ever-incompetent US Postal Service), so I'm just going through the Wii Shop Channel stocking up on everything I've previously purchased. Damn, I hadn't realized till now just how many VC/WiiWare titles I've bought since the service started. Transfer times are dramatically better on this card than on my previous 1 gb (which is now a secondary storage device for my PS3).
I'm not saying it wasn't the post office's fault it was late, but how do you know it wasn't the seller's fault? If there was no tracking it may be because the seller didn't provide it and he/she may have shipped it late. Just saying. Of course, I wouldn't put problems like that beyond the post office either, they are the government after all.
The seller did provide a tracking number only a day after I ordered it, but although the USPS acknowledged that it was a valid number they never added any tracking info for it. This is far from the first time where this has happened, where the USPS will add the tracking info after the package is delivered.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 05, 2010, 04:38:40 PM
Ahh, I get what you're saying. I think that's happened to me before too. I think the point of the tracking is mainly to CONFIRM an item has been delivered moreso than to offer real time tracking on it. I guess if you need that you're better off going through a private shipper like UPS or FedEX. They seem to do a better job with that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2010, 05:19:15 PM
They're all a crap shoot.
Title: Re: Upgrading the fridge
Post by: vudu on May 06, 2010, 01:48:18 PM
The seller did provide a tracking number only a day after I ordered it, but although the USPS acknowledged that it was a valid number they never added any tracking info for it. This is far from the first time where this has happened, where the USPS will add the tracking info after the package is delivered.
I'm pretty sure USPS doesn't offer real-time delivery tracking like UPS and FedEx do. Tracking for them basically means no-signature-required delivery confirmation.
