Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 17, 2010, 11:11:11 AM
Title: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 17, 2010, 11:11:11 AM
Looks like Xbox360 is getting a new slimmer model to coincide with that Natal release.
The whole new motherboard w/ CPU/GPU combined(code named Valhalla) (http://i44.tinypic.com/35d9o9l.jpg)
A peek under the heatsink & fan (http://i.imgur.com/C9EOW.jpg)
This looks like a much more compact 360 (about 25% smaller motherboard) and is rumored to have a combined CPU/GPU chip(Valhalla), which could mean that SlimBox will be getting another price drop (making it cheaper than a Wii again) or could be re-branded and paired with Natal this fall with a brand new casing and overall appearance. Put all that up next to Halo: Reach this fall and Xbox could be having a pretty good Xmas
Remember that China did leak the PS3 Slim well ahead of it's official reveal and E3 is less than 90 days away. So now we play the waiting and speculation game.
edit: Here is where the Valhalla 360 was "confirmed" to be in the making 1 month ago (Feb. 15, 2010) http://blog.seattlepi.com/digitaljoystick/archives/132014.asp (http://blog.seattlepi.com/digitaljoystick/archives/132014.asp)
But this has been rumored for quite a while now.
I'm just hoping that RRoD is now dead, Wifi is built in and HDD become reasonably priced or built in to lower the cost and a price drop for the non Natal version.
*If ATi & IBM can work together to combine the Xbox360 chips, then that means good things for the future of a price reduced (budget gamer edition) Wii in the not so distant future.*
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 17, 2010, 11:56:18 AM
I doubt the system will be smaller, the motherboard on the system has been shrunk more than once before.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Ian Sane on March 17, 2010, 11:58:40 AM
For MS eliminating the RRoD should be their absolute TOP priority. Otherwise there is no point in redesigning the hardware. I specifically bought a PS3 instead of an Xbox 360 entirely because of the RRoD. It was the deal breaker.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 17, 2010, 12:05:38 PM
The Wii will get so small, 20 GameCubes will fit inside.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 17, 2010, 12:27:20 PM
Here is a nice write up on the motherboard pics by Digital Foundry http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-360-slim-blog-entry
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 17, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
Nice to see they've beefed it up with a huge ass fan to keep it from over heating.
Seriously, MS could market their 360 console in infomercials as a way to heat up your home. Just like those Amish fireplaces.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 17, 2010, 05:06:24 PM
The power supply still needs a fan.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: KDR_11k on March 18, 2010, 04:29:28 AM
Wasn't the problem that the fan fell off, not that it was inadequate?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: SixthAngel on March 18, 2010, 07:21:06 AM
So the xbox will be squished and thin.
The red oval of death?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
Looks like the Xbox is also getting a USB storage update too. 16GB cap though, but that means no more wallet raping "proprietary" HDDs, now if they would only include Wifi out of the box, then I might actually get a 360 (after the redesign releases).
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 18, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
Slimmer and hotter, cook your eggs in seconds with the compact RROD Xbox 360 coming to a store near you.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: broodwars on March 18, 2010, 02:22:24 PM
This model interests me, but only if it's especially cheap and the RRoD issue has been completely fixed.
*really wants to play Tales of Vesperia, and possibly the 2 Mass Effect games and Lost Odyssey.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 18, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
EVERY piece of electronics has some failure, so you will never get any system that has a 0% failure rate (including the Xbox 360). The RRoD problem has been fixed. While some people will still get it, the percentage now falls well within the normal rate for electronics.
I don't care if this speculation (it's not even a rumor yet) is true or not, I think the current size of the Xbox 360 is fine. Does that mean I don't want systems to be as compact as possible? No, but the physical design of it is fine (unless the PlayStation 3, which was huge before the slim model).
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2010, 03:40:37 PM
That is an actual motherboard and it's been known that MS was working on a new one for about 2 years now. They have even put our job postings for that type of work (hardware revision). MS is not very good with keeping secrets so this board is a little past the stage of speculating "if" and more towards the area of speculating "when".
What is being speculated is if it will move away from the tray drive and go with a Slot drive and use the slightly smaller motherboard to make a new casing and re-launch this version of Xbox360 with Natal.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 18, 2010, 03:54:49 PM
They have shrunk the motherboard of the Xbox 360 several times before. It is still nothing but idle speculation that thy will release a small Xbox 360. Let's keep that clear.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2010, 04:06:23 PM
I thought you were referring to the smaller MB being speculation, not if MS was going to revise the system size. This is actually the 4th MB revision for Xbox360, so I thought you were doubting that it was real.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 18, 2010, 07:16:34 PM
Sorry, I thought I had been clear on that. I have no doubt that this smaller motherboard is real since they have shrunk it before, it's just the speculation that this could lead to a Xbox 360 Slim that I disagree with (as these rumors happened each previous time Microsoft decreased the size of the motherboard).
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: KDR_11k on March 19, 2010, 03:23:41 AM
They have shrunk the motherboard of the Xbox 360 several times before. It is still nothing but idle speculation that thy will release a small Xbox 360. Let's keep that clear.
Read the Eurogamer article, the board design makes it impossible to fit this into a regular 360 case.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2010, 12:55:00 PM
If these pictures from Dutch website GameKings (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamekings.tv%2Findex%2Fnieuws%2Fprimeur-x360-slim-gespot%2F&sl=nl&tl=en) are any proof, what you are seeing is the much talked about slim version of Xbox 360, literally straight out of the box by the looks of it. The hardware, apparently codenamed “Napoleon,” is compared to the present model, and is noticeably smaller and slimmer than the fat 360. Currently, only two shots are on the site, but if they are both real, LA is going to be rock to the core come June. But as always with rumour, do take with a pinch of salt [A massive one - Ed].
Follow the gamekings link for the 2 unboxed pics.
Hopefully these pics aren't fake(could be the HDDVD drive), but even if they are, E3 should be a good one this year.
Microsoft: 360slim (rumored) Natal
Sony: Move PSP2 (rumored)
Nintendo: 3DS Vitality Sensor Zelda Retro Studios game (rumor)
I don't know which games are being anticipated for Sony & MS, but that is 2 pieces of hardware from each of the BIG 3, so big things are gonna be happening this year at E3.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Arbok on March 30, 2010, 01:43:33 PM
Looks like the HD-DVD drive to me, as everyone in that article is pointing out as well. Right size for the drive, and the same "vent" pattern.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 30, 2010, 01:50:38 PM
I missed this thread somehow - the first pic is completely fake, as is the latest one.
They have shrunk the motherboard of the Xbox 360 several times before. It is still nothing but idle speculation that thy will release a small Xbox 360. Let's keep that clear.
No they haven't. The motherboard is the exact same size inside every Xbox 360. Some capacitors and inductors have been removed over time, The GPU and CPU have both gone from 90nm to 65nm (but are still the same physical size) and the ANA chip was replaced by HANA (with the addition of HDMI), but the motherboard itself is the exact dimensions it has been since launch. I have a Xenon, a Zephyr, a Falcon, and a Jasper all on hand right now if anyone wants to see pictures.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2010, 01:53:13 PM
If you want to post pics, then lets see them.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 30, 2010, 03:14:18 PM
I don't feel like taking apart all 4, but I'll post a Xenon (first revision) and a Jasper (latest revision) so you can see they're the same. The mfr dates are 4 years apart. If you really want I can take apart the other two after work. Gimme a few minutes.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2010, 03:28:46 PM
It's up to you if you want to. It would settle the dispute once and for all and we would have all 4 boards to compare against should a slim model actually be released.
Can you put a ruler next to board so that we have something to measure each board against.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 30, 2010, 03:37:37 PM
No need, they're side by side. Here you go. BTW, you can find images of any 360 motherboard online...all over the place. The images are pretty big (10MP camera), so if they take a while to load, it's because your connection sucks. Also you'll notice the extended GPU heatsink (GPU is on the left, the heatsink extends to the front of the CPU now) - they've been doing that since early 2007, and they also put them in all refurbished consoles.
Here's the two side-by-side - Xenon is on the left, Jasper is on the right. Both have had the DVD-ROM removed, since it would take up nearly half the picture. (http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7295/dscn1579.th.jpg) (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/dscn1579.jpg/) Here is a closer image of the Xenon (http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/1782/dscn1580.th.jpg) (http://img532.imageshack.us/i/dscn1580.jpg/) Here is the Jasper - the green wire going across the NAND is in place because this console is JTAG hacked (plays homebrew, 500GB HDD, etc) (http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6334/dscn1581a.th.jpg) (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/dscn1581a.jpg/) And here's a shot of them turned around, so you can see the Xenon (no HDMI) and Jasper (HDMI - under the regular A/V port) dissimilarities. (http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6083/dscn1583.th.jpg) (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/dscn1583.jpg/)
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
Is the power supply any slimmer?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2010, 04:02:33 PM
Why does it look like there is an industrial air conditioning unit or some sort of fancy vacuum in there?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 30, 2010, 05:02:09 PM
The power supply is the same dimensions but uses 150 watts (Jasper) instead of 175 (Falcon) or 203 (Xenon/Zephyr) now, and the "vaccum" is an air duct, the fans are in the back. So anyway, same size motherboard in every console. Screws are in the same place, same exact case (only differfence is the HDMI port). Also, you can use a 203 watt PSU on any revision, but the 175 watt only on Falcon/Jasper, and 175 watt only on Jasper.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Ymeegod on March 31, 2010, 01:13:45 AM
The Jasper is stated to fix alot of issues with RoRD too, my newest 360 is one and hopefully I get 5 years out of it (bought the extended warranty anyhow). Going for 90 to 65nm seemed to fix the heating issues.
You can tell what system is a Jasper because it has built in memory (512/256MB) where the older versions don't. Picked up mine when walmart did that $100 deal :).
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 31, 2010, 09:38:58 AM
The switch to 65nm made a *huge* difference in temperatures within the console. Now the system doesn't get hot enough to cause the board to flex like it used to. It also draws about 26% less power than before. Other ways to tell which motherboard you have is by looking at the power ratings on the back (it's visible through the hole in the retail box of the console). Xenon and Zephyr (which have been out of production for nearly 3 years) will have 16.5A for the 12V, Falcon (which they stopped making about a year and a half ago, though it's still possible to fine one somewhere I suppose) has 14.2A for 12V, and Jasper has 12.1A for 12V. There is one other motherboard, called Opus, which is essentially a Jasper, but does not have HDMI, and they are only in refurbished (though not all of them) units that replace older non-HDMI consoles that get sent in.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2010, 03:38:39 AM
Looks like Surfer girl has caught another wave.
Slim 360 to be unveiled at e3... 360 rebrand inbound (http://newsoftrockhallelujah.blogspot.com/2010/04/slim-360-to-be-unveiled-at-e3-360.html)
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MS will reveal a slim 360 natal bundle at one of their two (yes, two) press conferences at this year's e3.
What's more the 360 will be getting a subtle rebrand, with a new logo and black as the new primary colour of the console. They feel that the new system needs to be black because a white Natal wouldn't sit well next to the typical gloss black tv.
The new system design is pretty neat.
And Natal? Let's just say you'll probably be both very surprised and very pleased by one of the games revealed... what is it? Might Get Shot if I were to tell.
You'll see.
So now I get to update the list of things we expect to see at E3
That is 1 piece of hardware and 1 piece of accessory for each of the Big 3. E3 should be really good this year. Wish I was going.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 26, 2010, 03:26:51 PM
If the Slimbox will address the RROD issues then it may be something worth considering. I'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: nickmitch on April 26, 2010, 03:51:25 PM
They've had other (minor) hardware revisions to deal with the RROD in the past, cooler chipsets and what not. I think the main focus should be on the size and built in Wi-Fi.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 26, 2010, 03:55:34 PM
Slimmer size makes it easier to ship after your RROD.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 26, 2010, 03:59:54 PM
Slimmer size makes it easier to ship after your RROD.
LOL
Well, that's one way of looking at it.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2010, 01:17:12 PM
I don't know if these 2 things are related, but since these pics most likely came from an Asian source and this news involves an Asian update, I'll post this here.
Microsoft Upgrades 360 to support 3D Gaming (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/microsoft-takes-gaming-battle-3d-with-upgrade-to-xbox-360-1971324.html) New hardware or just a firmware update? nobody knows...
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The US technology giant revealed yesterday that it had signed a strategic partnership with the electronics company LG, as it prepares to bring 3D gaming to the Xbox 360.
The memorandum of understanding seems to involve a marketing deal to sell the South Korean group's 3D televisions alongside Xbox 360s that have been upgraded to support 3D gaming. Gamers in the UK will have to control their excitement for now, as plans seem to be limited to the Asian market at the moment. Yet experts believe the rise of 3D in other formats makes the format's expansion more likely. The move follows recent announcements by Sony, which has upgraded its PlayStation 3 console to support 3D, and Nintendo, which is planning to release a 3D version of its popular DS handheld.
Piers Harding-Rolls, an analyst at Screen Digest, said: "Microsoft had been concentrating on its motion-control releases this year, but they are aware Sony has gone into 3D not just in games, but across the whole group. This is its competitive response."
Sony announced in April that it had released an upgrade of the machine's "firmware" which users could download via the internet to tweak its operating system so it can support 3D games when they become available.
It was unclear from yesterday's statement whether gamers would have to buy a new Xbox or whether they would be able to follow PlayStation users and simply download additional firmware.
"The big question is what technology is needed to deliver 3D in the home, and whether consumers are ready to spend on new television sets and glasses," Mr Harding-Rolls continued.
Sony said that the move towards 3D had been driven by cinema and television's move into the area, "and the Avatar effect cannot be underestimated". James Cameron's special-effects blockbuster smashed box office records when it was released last year, prompting a rise in 3D cinema releases and plans to bring the technology into the home.
Gaming in 3D is in its infancy. Sony has several games in development and testing, ready for launch when customers begin buying 3D televisions. The company said: "We're excited about it, but we are treading quite carefully."
Super Stardust in 3D is "demoing internally", Sony said, adding: "The gameplay really benefits. You can see it in racing games. Petrolheads want to be behind the wheel. In D you don't get that sense of depth; 3D brings the experience to life."
He added: "Many games are designed with 3D landscapes; [it's] just [that] so far, they haven't been designed to be watched in 3D." Other games set to be released include Wipeout and MotorStorm.
Nintendo said in March it was to launch the 3DS before the end of March next year. The 3D version of its top-selling handheld device will not need glasses, the company said. Details, however, remain sketchy. Nintendo has remained quiet over whether the Wii will be updated to become 3D-capable. Mr Harding-Rolls said: "Gaming will be one of the key drivers for getting 3D into the home. It is just not there yet."
Microsoft is preparing to release the Natal motion-sensing kit in the UK in October. The gear will be officially launched at the E3 Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles next month. Sony also has a rival motion-sensor product in the pipeline.
"There will be lots of news at E3," Mr Harding-Rolls said. "I don't think 3D is as important to Natal. That's the big hope as it gets into areas currently dominated by the Wii."
The race for 3D gaming
* Microsoft has been concentrating heavily on taking the fight to Nintendo's extraordinarily successful Wii console, whose motion-sensor-based games have encouraged a whole new group of players into the market. This culminates in the launch of Project Natal at the E3 expo next month. Yet the group clearly believes it needs to offer an alternative to Sony, and yesterday news from South Korea emerged that the Xbox 360 will support 3D games.
* Nintendo surprised the gaming market in March by revealing that it was developing a hand-held device that could support 3D gaming. Even better, it said, the new technology will not need the silly glasses. "The hand-held needed to be energised," Screen Digest analyst Piers Harding-Rolls said, and Nintendo believes taking it 3D is the way forward. More details are expected at E3.
* Sony stole a march on its rivals last month. It released firmware that allowed PlayStation3 owners to upgrade their machines to support 3D gaming. While there is little content and few consumers have 3D televisions, the company is betting on the popularity of gaming in the format to soar. It is also preparing to release motion-sensor gaming.
Now take that NEW (?) 360 and pair it with this
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16.2 - Backlight for View-Sequential Autostereoscopic 3-D (4:00 PM - 4:20 PM) Adrian Travis, Neil Emerton, Timothy Large, Steve Bathiche, Bernie Rihn Microsoft Corporation, Redmond, WA, USA
Conceptually, a simple concept to display a 3-D image will be described. A backlight, which emits collimated light whose direction can be scanned through 16°, has been demonstrated. Combined with a high-frame-rate LCD, stereo 3-D can be viewed without the need for glasses.
And you have a new 360 and a MS branded Autostereoscopic Glasses-less 3D TV likely to be made by LG
What everyone seems to be forgetting though, is that Nintendo has been ready and waiting for 3D since the Gamecube. 3D support has built into the GPU from day 1 which means that all the Wii needs is a game to take advantage of it.... and Nintendo has plenty of developers already working on just that (3DS at GC/Wii level graphics anyone)!
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: broodwars on May 12, 2010, 01:29:40 PM
Thanks a lot for buying into the 3D fad, Nintendo. Now even Microsoft's diving into it, rather than just letting us all laugh at Sony's sad attempt to cash in on the gimmick.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2010, 01:30:31 PM
I updated that post just incase you missed it.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
I DON'T WANT YER STINKIN' 3DTV
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 12, 2010, 01:42:06 PM
I take back what I said about the motherboard pics in the first thread - apparently they are actual prototype pictures (according to xbox-hacker BBS), but everything else I said about the size of the motherboards, etc, stays the same.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2010, 02:27:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/7srDh.gif)
Looks like the Slimbox360 has 250GB and WiFi built in according to this ad
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 14, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Will this cost the same as the arcade model?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: broodwars on June 14, 2010, 03:22:58 PM
If Sony could drop the price of the PS3 from $600 to $300 with their slim model, why the hell can't Microsoft atleast lower the price of the 360 slim atleast $50, or $100 to compete with the wii?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2010, 05:05:20 PM
They have lowered the price.
They just keep adding more and more tot their $299 model while the basic Arcade keeps dropping lower in price. you can get an Arcade right now for $199 and if you took advantage of certain sales, you could've gotten one for $99.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Spinnzilla on June 14, 2010, 05:06:59 PM
Oh wow, that thing is ugly. But, built in wifi would betotally worth it.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: ShyGuy on June 14, 2010, 06:30:22 PM
Just a bad design on the case. multiple angles makes it look off kilter.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2010, 06:32:19 PM
I think it looks much better than the regular case they have now.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Mop it up on June 14, 2010, 06:46:03 PM
Funny how both of these slim systems are still noticeably larger than Wii.
Still, Nintendo should release a slim model to fit in, although they probably couldn't make it any smaller without sacrificing durability. So they should go the opposite route and announce Wii XL, complete with the advertising campaign "Don't you want your Wii to be 93% bigger?"
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Caliban on June 14, 2010, 06:49:49 PM
So I know how to transfer my saves (USB Drive), and then all I have to do is use the licence transfer tool so I can download all the content I have on my 120GB drive, and then I will be all set on using this 360. Well actually I could just buy it and play games I haven't touched yet. I hope we're getting some of these here in Canada so I can buy one within the next week or 2.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: broodwars on June 15, 2010, 01:26:56 AM
Well, I finally broke down and did it. I'm finally buying an Xbox 360, if only for a handful of games. One of the regulars on another site I frequent is buying one of the new Black models, and so I in turn am purchasing his model (a 2009 120 GB Elite) for pretty much exactly what I wanted to pay for it. Hell, I'm even getting Lego Batman and Pure out of it, which aren't bad games.
So yeah, today was a good day. ;D
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 15, 2010, 01:28:48 AM
I'm shocked that they announced it, and you'll be able to buy it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Ymeegod on June 15, 2010, 01:49:45 AM
Right now there's just the Slim Black Elite Unit at $299 but MS did state it's going to release the Black Arcade Unit later this year at $199. Starting today the white Jasper units (both the elite and the arcades get slashed by $50).
I know a few people who were waiting for this--250gb and Wi-FI built in (it was $80 adapter before).
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 15, 2010, 01:53:17 AM
How come the Wii had built in Wifi at launch, but the 360 is only now getting it? That seems odd.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 15, 2010, 01:54:01 AM
No one's bothered by this? "We have as many iterations as the Nintendo DS whoopity-doo!" ??
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: broodwars on June 15, 2010, 01:55:48 AM
No one's bothered by this? "We have as many iterations as the Nintendo DS whoopity-doo!" ??
Considering I've been biding my time for the 360 to drop into a decent price range for the handful of games I actually want, no not really. Anything that drives the price down on one of the more reliable units is fine by me.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Kytim89 on July 02, 2010, 01:43:08 PM
Does the original Xbox 360 attachable hard drive use a USB connecter to hook into the console?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Caliban on July 02, 2010, 01:54:32 PM
No. It's a proprietary connector.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Kytim89 on July 02, 2010, 04:31:55 PM
I had a speciel project that I was going to use it for later in the future. Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Caliban on July 02, 2010, 06:24:04 PM
But if you have an X-Box 360 Data Transfer Cable (http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Data-Transfer-Cable-English/dp/B003S9WJ9A/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1278109387&sr=8-6) you can connect the attachable hard drive to anything with a USB input.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: Kytim89 on July 02, 2010, 06:31:31 PM
But if you have an X-Box 360 Data Transfer Cable (http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Data-Transfer-Cable-English/dp/B003S9WJ9A/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1278109387&sr=8-6) you can connect the attachable hard drive to anything with a USB input.
What i need is a regular cable that can bypass the data transfer cable.
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 02, 2010, 08:25:38 PM
No one's bothered by this? "We have as many iterations as the Nintendo DS whoopity-doo!" ??
The slim Xbox 360 will be the third, DS has four (unless you want to stretch it and consider the Xbox 360 Arcade with 256MB internal memory to be a different iteration). Besides, what does it matter?
Title: Re: Slimbox 360 on the horizon?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 02, 2010, 11:59:36 PM
You can just open the shell to the hard drive (any of them) and it's just a standard 2.5" SATA drive inside.
