Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Kytim89 on March 08, 2010, 12:08:30 AM
Title: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Kytim89 on March 08, 2010, 12:08:30 AM
I was just playing my copy of Star Fox 64 on my VC service and thought about whether this series needs a reboot. Judging by the last couple of titles(Command), the series may be in limbo. I have heared rumors that Nintendo is considering revivng the series, but they do not know what to do with it.
The game should be brought back on the wii with motion controls. However, with all the first party titles comin this year, Nintendo might have a lot on their plate. Well the game could be released in 2011. Imagine the graphics of SSBB for the game.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 08, 2010, 01:05:23 AM
I think Nintendo should make a Star Fox/Piltowings crossover where Goose battles Meca Hawk in space.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Caterkiller on March 08, 2010, 01:08:56 AM
I forgot what Miyamoto said in the last interview regarding Star Fox, but it was nothing good. He seemed to be confused as to why it wasn't doing well. Really?! Nintendo just needs to do another Star Fox themselves! I enjoyed Command Mission but would not want another game like that. Give me some fast paced SF 64 like action and multiplayer along with some Wii Sports Resort flying controlles and I would be sold.
I understand that Nintendo was trying to rebuild its relations last generation with developers, by loaning out their franchises and it gave them a chance to work on new things. But good god no more please! Adventures and Assault were the worst pieces of crap last generation!
Star Fox will be revived one way or another thats for sure. And it could be Nintendo's big multiplayer game. Some of my fondest multiplayer memories came from SF64. Imagine 16+ people flying around dog fighting like crazy? With tanks on the ground blasting away as well? If there has to be on foot shooting I would trust Nintendo to do it right. As long as the speed of the vehicles returns and there arent any vehicles that truely shine over others it would make for a fantastic experience.
There was a beautiful stage set in the clouds of assualt for multiplayer, but it was sooo big and the arwings themeselves moved soooo slow it was nearly unplayable.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Ian Sane on March 08, 2010, 12:14:31 PM
When playing Star Fox 64 one thing that I felt would really add to the experience was if my wingmen were controlled by actually people instead of AI. The whole thing seems designed specifically for four players! So give me that classic Star Fox gameplay but where I can play the whole story mode with four players. Star Wars: Rebel Strike came really close with the 2-player co-op version of Rogue Leader.
To get good again Star Fox needs to take a cue from Mega Man and go back to the basics. Star Fox turned to crap once they lost focus of the core gameplay of a 3D shmup. That's it. That's Star Fox. It's a concept that has to remain streamlined. You can't add all sorts of stuff like you can to other genres. It has to just be a shmup. Can you imagine playing Gradius where you get out of the Vic Viper and walk around? No, that would be stupid. The same attitude has to be applied to Star Fox.
How would Star Fox 64 gameplay, with all new levels and a new story naturally, with 4-player co-op be a disappointing sequel? If they had released that for the Gamecube it would have been a classic.
And I agree that Nintendo themselves should handle it.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Caterkiller on March 08, 2010, 12:53:41 PM
Co-op in Nintendo games is the wave of the future! Does anyone else remember those interviews about Assualt possibly being 4 player co-op? I sure do.
I personaly hate being on foot in Star Fox, but if Nintendo insisted on it, I would trust they would make it alright. But man, co-op land masters, all range mode, blue marines, and most of all linear stages would be a blast. I think the co-op alone would be anough to merit a sequal.
Seems like we havn't heard anything about anything in forever. I'd love for one of the NWR staff to ask whats up with Star Fox next time they get another interview with whoever Star Fox could concern.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: broodwars on March 08, 2010, 02:45:56 PM
There's no reason why Star Fox couldn't be revived, just that Nintendo is apparently too lazy to do it themselves. The series just needs to return to its roots of space opera and fancy jets taking down an evil dictator, getting rid of all the "vehicle variety"; increasingly lousy "voice acting"; and everything having to do with "furries" the series has picked up over the years. Just stick to what has ever made the series work, which is all-out aerial action.
And, please, no motion controls. I don't need to be worrying about motion controls in a my epic space opera aerial shooter.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 08, 2010, 04:14:39 PM
Nintendo has never been that hands on with the series. The only one they did fully by themselves was Star Fox 64 (the original Star Fox was co-developed by Argonaut Software, Star Fox Adventures was done by Rare, Star Fox Assault was done by Namco, Star Fox Command was done by Q-Games).
The only one I ever played was Star Fox 64 when I rented it from Blockbuster Video, and that was 13 years ago (I do remember actually getting the Rumble Pak with the rental, which surprised me). I would like to see them do another one, either internally or maybe get someone like BioWare to do it.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: that Baby guy on March 08, 2010, 04:27:29 PM
Co-op in Nintendo games is the wave of the future! Does anyone else remember those interviews about Assualt possibly being 4 player co-op? I sure do.
I personaly hate being on foot in Star Fox, but if Nintendo insisted on it, I would trust they would make it alright. But man, co-op land masters, all range mode, blue marines, and most of all linear stages would be a blast. I think the co-op alone would be anough to merit a sequal.
Seems like we havn't heard anything about anything in forever. I'd love for one of the NWR staff to ask whats up with Star Fox next time they get another interview with whoever Star Fox could concern.
I could see co-op missions where one person is on land while another provides air-support, I suppose. Really? Assault had some very strong multiplayer ideas. It could have been as "revolutionary" as Halo, had Namco and Nintendo tightened up a few things, added in LAN play, and pushed it as a multiplayer experience, rather than a single-player outing. That's an interesting idea, I suppose. I don't recall how the multiplayer was received at the time, but I remember having some fun with it, at least.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Luigi Dude on March 08, 2010, 04:29:29 PM
If you all want something like Star Fox 64, then be sure to buy Sin and Punishment 2:Star Successor when it's released in a few months. Unlike the first Sin and Punishment where you were on the ground only able to move right and left, in the second one you spend most of your time flying now and are able to move all over the screen, kind of like Star Fox 64. Which has allowed Sin and Punishment 2 to have even more action then the first one.
Unless Nintendo finally has one of their EAD studio's make a Star Fox game again, Sin and Punishment 2 is the closest thing to a Star Fox 64 sequel as we're every going to get.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Caterkiller on March 08, 2010, 04:38:04 PM
Remember some years ago Miyamoto's list of all time favorite games? It may have changed by now but it went 1 - Super Mario World. 2 - Zelda a Link to the Past. 3 Star Fox 64. I think many were very surprised by that.
Being one of is all time favorites i'm sure there is an urge to make an even better one. Come on make it happen Miyamoto.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 08, 2010, 04:53:06 PM
Nintendo should revive the Pilot Wings franchise as well.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2010, 05:03:37 PM
Nintendo should revive the Pilot Wings franchise as well.
Supposedly Factor 5 is working on it, or was working on it at some point.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Ian Sane on March 08, 2010, 06:16:34 PM
I think Luigi Dude has just provided the ideal solution: give the Star Fox franchise to Treasure.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Stratos on March 08, 2010, 06:44:08 PM
I've been saying the same thing. Treasure could make the perfect new Star Fox game.
I'd like to see them use the M+ for controls. I loved the controls for WS Resort Airplane and adapting those controls for Star Fox could work out pretty well.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 08, 2010, 08:26:22 PM
I remember Miyamoto saying recently that if Sin & Punishment 2 is successful Nintendo may make a new Star Fox, which means Nintendo's not going to make a new Star Fox.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Where did he say that?
I really don't think Nintendo would pull a lazy 3rd party on us and use an unknown game as a test for a game that we all know.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Kytim89 on March 08, 2010, 09:29:36 PM
I think Treasure has the credibility to make a Star Fox game. I was just playing Star Fox 64 last night and I noticed some things that need improvement. First, a better lock-on ability for your missles. It was incredibly hard to target moving enemies(Star Wolf). If a new game is made, the lock-on should mimic that of an actual fighter plane.
How about an inventory system where you can buy extra missles, blasters, shields, bombs, etc for your ship. How about co-op play. I would love to have all of you as my wing men against Andross. However, some kind of gambit system would be nice for when co-op play is not in use for single player.
As for being on the ground, I do not mind if they do it right. If treasur does the game, they could just have the controls of Sin and Punishment married to Star Fox characters. I would not mind a third person shooter for the series.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 08, 2010, 10:13:20 PM
I really don't think Nintendo would pull a lazy 3rd party on us and use an unknown game as a test for a game that we all know.
I'm not sure where he said that, you didn't post a link to a source when you told me about it. (https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29721.50) :P
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Stogi on March 08, 2010, 10:19:48 PM
S&P isn't much like Star Fox other than forwarding-viewing rail shooting. Star Fox (especially the original) also had a lot of maneuvering around obstacles.
*Brought from the thread Insano linked to*
You know, that was always my favorite part. It wasn't shooting people down in those wide-open levels, but rather flying through asteroid fields and debris.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: MegaByte on March 08, 2010, 10:43:00 PM
Me too. I got excited about the tunnel gameplay at the beginning of X-Scape, but then it dumped me into an open field, and I was saddened.
BTW, I've heard the Cowboy Bebop PS1 game is like classic Star Fox. Has anybody played it?
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 09, 2010, 12:14:47 AM
I really don't think Nintendo would pull a lazy 3rd party on us and use an unknown game as a test for a game that we all know.
I'm not sure where he said that, you didn't post a link to a source when you told me about it. (https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29721.50) :P:
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Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Caterkiller on March 09, 2010, 01:08:15 AM
I really don't think Nintendo would pull a lazy 3rd party on us and use an unknown game as a test for a game that we all know.
I'm not sure where he said that, you didn't post a link to a source when you told me about it. (https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29721.50) :P: :
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HAHAHAHA! So did Miyamoto really say that? I'm sure I would have remembered something like that had I saw the actual source. He's no dummy, he should know what people want and don't want out of a new Star Fox.
And Kytim, thats how the lock on works on Star Wolf, your not intended to bomb them away like that and shoot them with charged blasts.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Stratos on March 09, 2010, 04:17:38 AM
I really don't think Nintendo would pull a lazy 3rd party on us and use an unknown game as a test for a game that we all know.
I'm not sure where he said that, you didn't post a link to a source when you told me about it. (https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29721.50) :P:
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In hindsight, it does read like a joke, and you're usually thorough enough to post a link when you quote something. You should probably take it as a compliment that I respect you enough to not doubt what you say, and I should learn to never, ever believe anything anyone says on the internet without sources to back it up.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 09, 2010, 10:54:22 AM
I'm glad you said almost exactly what the first response I typed out said before I changed it to No Comment.
Title: Re: Can the Star Fox series be revived?
Post by: Peachylala on March 09, 2010, 01:24:01 PM
Maybe... Sin & Punishment 2 is our Star Fox replacement for this console generation since Nintendo may be planning a reboot?
