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Title: NBA JAM - BOOOOOOM-SHAKA-LAKA - He's... stopped, dropped and rolled!!!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 04:24:47 AM
Official Thread for EVERYTHING NBA JAM (Wii exclusive) (http://i47.tinypic.com/2uysu8k.jpg) Official Website: http://www.nba-jam.easports.com/ (http://www.nba-jam.easports.com/)
Who: EA Sports What: NBA JAM Where: Wii (it's exclusive) When: Q3 FY 2011 (Oct. - Dec. 2010) Why: Because it needed to be done!!
The Announcement: On NWR (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30332.msg576992#msg576992)
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BOOOOOOM-SHAKA-LAKA! EA ANNOUNCES NBA JAM New Take on Classic Game to Appear on the Wii in 2010 GUILDFORD, UK,. – 11th Jan, 2010 – Electronic Arts Inc. (Nasdaq: ERTS) announced today that EA SPORTS™ is developing one of the most popular and culturally influential arcade basketball games ever made -- NBA JAM -- for the Nintendo Wii™. EA SPORTS NBA JAM revives the classic franchise with vintage NBA JAM gameplay, and all-new features that deliver a fresh new take on the game. Featuring the sights and sounds that fans of the franchise will instantly recognize, EA SPORTS NBA JAM mixes the old school with the new, to deliver a one-of-a-kind sports presentation on the Wii.
“NBA JAM is one of the most recognizable franchises in videogame history,” said Peter Moore, President, EA SPORTS. “Diehard fans of the original game have been asking for a remake for more than a decade. We’re very excited to give them their wish this year with the return of this iconic franchise.”
Featuring gameplay that is true to the original, NBA JAM will have players spinning with ankle breaking moves to the basket and on the way to high-flying, backboard-smashing dunks. In addition to the classic experience, EA SPORTS NBA JAM will also introduce new game modes, characters and gameplay depth.
NBA JAM brought an all-new visual style to the sports videogame genre when it debuted in 1993. Now, the new EA SPORTS NBA JAM re-defines the visuals for a sports game yet again by bringing true-to-life body types, updated physics, and visible player emotion to the over- the - top experience.
EA SPORTS NBA JAM is currently in development at EA Canada in Vancouver, BC and will be available for the Nintendo Wii videogame system in 2010. The game has not yet been rated by the ESRB or PEGI.
For more information, visit www.nba-jam.easports.com (http://www.nba-jam.easports.com/), or join the EA SPORTS NBA JAM Facebook group at: www.facebook.com/NBAJAM/ (http://www.facebook.com/NBAJAM/)
Nintendo Power: http://nintendopower.com/ (http://nintendopower.com/) (http://i49.tinypic.com/2pzbdxz.jpg)
Possible Screen Shot (removed from the Nintendo Power link) (http://i48.tinypic.com/2zp4n7t.jpg)
Now Discuss.....
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Post by: broodwars on January 12, 2010, 04:28:59 AM
I hope they plan on going with the 3 players per team design of the later NBA Showtime and work on adding some amount of gameplay depth, because even though Jam was fun in its day it was really simple. Most of the game just consisted on hammering on the steal or jump button on defense and dunk after dunk on offense. Also, for this kind of game online play is really a must, especially if it's going to be a retail title. I'm also hoping they're using the current NBA roster, much as I'd like to see Stockton and Malone back "on the court."
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 04:37:15 AM
I'm hoping for lots and lots of secret player.
Stockton, Malone, Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Barack, Biden, H. Clinton, B. Clinton, Lil Wayne, Eminem, Sarah Palin, John McCain, Michael Jackson, a freakin monkey, team mascots, Miis, Mario, Luigi & Princess Peach, your mom, my mom, everybody.
all accessible (for free) with secret codes.
All the secrets of the past need to work in the game of tomorrow. All Fire mode, super steal, unlimited turbo, BIG HEAD, everything needs to be there and more.
EA needs to go all out on this and it's a guaranteed seller as long as they don't mess with the formula and fun factor of the game itself.
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Post by: Stogi on January 12, 2010, 04:50:52 AM
I hope they plan on going with the 3 players per team design of the later NBA Showtime and work on adding some amount of gameplay depth, because even though Jam was fun in its day it was really simple. Most of the game just consisted on hammering on the steal or jump button on defense and dunk after dunk on offense. Also, for this kind of game online play is really a must, especially if it's going to be a retail title. I'm also hoping they're using the current NBA roster, much as I'd like to see Stockton and Malone back "on the court."
Everything you said makes me want to punch you.
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Post by: broodwars on January 12, 2010, 05:03:09 AM
Oh my, someone on an internet forum doesn't like something I've said. Oh whatever shall I do? ::)
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 05:39:31 AM
Possible Screen Shot (removed from the Nintendo Power link) (http://i48.tinypic.com/2zp4n7t.jpg)
^added to OP If that is an actual screenshot of in-game gameplay, then this is a DAY -1 Purchase yes, I will be getting it before its release date somehow.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 12, 2010, 06:28:13 AM
I'm glad this is a Wii exclusive. But then again, there remains a strong possibility it will be ported to other platforms at some point. The original was multiplatform so it would make sense.
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Post by: GK on January 12, 2010, 08:18:10 AM
Eh. When NBA Jam was around, the basketball game for me was Tecmo Super NBA Basketball. But I've told a co-worker or two about this & they were psyched about it.
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Post by: Morari on January 12, 2010, 09:48:31 AM
Possible Screen Shot (removed from the Nintendo Power link) (http://i48.tinypic.com/2zp4n7t.jpg)
^added to OP If that is an actual screenshot of in-game gameplay, then this is a DAY -1 Purchase yes, I will be getting it before its release date somehow.
The screenshot looks like it's from South Park. All of these NBA players must be Canadian.
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Post by: Dasmos on January 12, 2010, 10:12:37 AM
I hope this turns out better than the 2004 remake. That one basically ruined all of my memories from back in the day.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 12, 2010, 10:16:51 AM
On the offical site you can vote on which 3 players you want on a team in the game. This week it is the Kings,Clippers, and the Thunder.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 12, 2010, 02:24:41 PM
Sigh.. I can't seem to get excited because of how awfull the n64 nba jam was. The only basketball franchise I ever owned was ruined then..
Worst fire effect ever..
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 12, 2010, 04:37:22 PM
Honestly all I would want from an NBA Jam would be the exact same classic game complete with digitalized sprites and everything only with an expanded roster that includes all the all-time greats. So I want to play as the Celtics with Bird and Russell. And the Bulls with Jordan. And put Wilt and Shaq on the same Lakers team! That would be cool! This is how I would like it with most sports games actually. I usually find a "engine" I like and want to just be able to use whatever players I want with it.
The real appeal of NBA Jam was that it was just the bare essentials of basketball. That's the appeal of any arcade-style sports game. As a result these sort of games don't lend themselves well to sequels. With sequels you build on what was there before but in this case addition would be subtraction.
NBA Jam was always just a name anyway. The real franchise was Midway's arcade sports games. They also made NFL Blitz and NHL Hitz. Midway lost the NBA Jam name to Acclaim and thus made NBA Hangtime instead which is very obviously a direct sequel. EA just putting the name on the box doesn't make this NBA Jam. The name itself is worthless.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 04:43:40 PM
Mark Trumell, the creator of NBA Jam, is working with EA on this version. It's not just a name, it a recreation of a classic.
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Post by: Mop it up on January 12, 2010, 05:57:17 PM
Since a different developer is working on this game, I hope they go and play the original if they haven't already. Hopefully, they can analyze the game, and hopefully figure out exactly what it was about it which made it such a beloved classic.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 06:02:59 PM
THE CREATOR OF NBA JAM IS WORKING ON THIS GAME WITH EA SPORTS!!!!
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Post by: Mop it up on January 12, 2010, 06:05:18 PM
I see that, but that's one person. One person cannot create a game, and it can turn out entirely differently than previous efforts. See: Super Smash Brothers Brawl.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 06:07:33 PM
They tried to do too much with SSBB.
NBA Street is not much different from NBA JAM. With Mark Trumell on board, they can make NBA JAM what NBA STREET was trying to be.... NBA JAM.
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Post by: Mop it up on January 12, 2010, 06:18:59 PM
I haven't played NBA Street so I can't really comment on that.
Like I said, I have hope, but can you really blame me for having some skepticism of a third-party Wii game?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 06:31:04 PM
No. not really.
But I refuse to let go of hope on this one. If the pic up above is any indication of what the game looks like then they are already on the right track. If they can take the NBA Street and boil it down to NBA JAM complete with all the secret characters, codes, and arcade style play with he help of the original creator then add in some online competitive play, they should have a guaranteed winner on their hands.
& with buying the name to the game, I'm hoping they bought the code and all the previous version of the game to go with it.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 12, 2010, 08:14:09 PM
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Mark Trumell, the creator of NBA Jam, is working with EA on this version.
That gives it potential then. Unless he's one of those dellusion creators that's all "this is what I REALLY wanted to make" and NBA Jam was just a happy accident because he lacked the money or technology to implement shitty ideas. You know, the George Lucas scenario.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 12, 2010, 08:17:01 PM
Still can't get excited...
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Post by: D_Average on January 12, 2010, 08:38:10 PM
Can't wait for this game! Hopefully they have a classic player roster, or a way to unlock the original roster. Can't go wrong with Skiles and O'Neil.
Little known fact about me. I used to scream "boomshakalaka" during the Bulls first championship run back in '91. Then NBA Jam started doing it. I guess I'm cool with it.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 13, 2010, 04:51:12 AM
Mark Trumell, the creator of NBA Jam, is working with EA on this version.
That gives it potential then. Unless he's one of those dellusion creators that's all "this is what I REALLY wanted to make" and NBA Jam was just a happy accident because he lacked the money or technology to implement ****ty ideas. You know, the George Lucas scenario.
Ian, this is a 3rd party Wii exclusive. So shouldn't you be busy ignoring it as you play your PS3? :P
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 13, 2010, 04:54:14 AM
You mean Ed O'Neil (Easy Cure's avatar)? If you mean Shaq, his name is actually spelled O'Neal I think.
But seriously, it would be funny as hell if Ed O'Neil were a secret character, lol.
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Post by: Pale on January 13, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
That _screenshot_ has cut out heads. It looks cool in a still, but I have to think it would be kind of distracting and gross in motion. Quick cuts from profile to side view, that sort of thing. I hope that isn't the case.
Honestly, I know they won't do this, but the game would have potential in a Mii style. Make every player using the Mii engine. Allow for some "cheating" here and there and I think it could look really cool.
If it is 3-on-3, here's hoping for full six player online play.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 13, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Disagreed. 3D rendered uncanny heads don't look as interesting as the cutouts.
Look at EA's Wii track record, look at Tiger Woods 2010, and you know they likely won't achieve anything nice by going the standard 3D route. Going cartoony-kiddeh Mii style would just hurt what's already wounded.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 13, 2010, 12:37:02 PM
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Little known fact about me. I used to scream "boomshakalaka" during the Bulls first championship run back in '91. Then NBA Jam started doing it. I guess I'm cool with it.
Basketball isn't on at my house too often but if it is it can't last three seconds before my brothers and I will start doing NBA Jam commentary to it. "THE STEAL!" "TERRIBLE SHOT!" "HE'S ON FIRE!"
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2010, 01:59:08 PM
Pale: Horrible idea. Quick Cut Expressions Heads would look great in motion and would be really funny especially for the first few times you played it.
Get the ball stolen: Surprised face Steal the ball: Cocky face Sink a 3 pointer: The Smug "In Yo Face" face Going in for a super dunk: Wide eyed mouth open face Slam the ball thru the hoop: Googly eyed tongue out face Get shoved down: Mad face
Of course I'd expect everyone to have slightly different faces and more than one expression per trigger, but I think it would look great if it looks anything like the screen shot.
As far as Mii heads. secret code or create a player career mode.
And I also want a 2 on 2 game, but an unlockable 3 on 3 mode could also be an option.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 13, 2010, 02:47:14 PM
You mean Ed O'Neil (Easy Cure's avatar)? If you mean Shaq, his name is actually spelled O'Neal I think.
But seriously, it would be funny as hell if Ed O'Neil were a secret character, lol.
First of all; for anyone that doesn't know whoever Ed O'Neil is on this forum.. please speak up because i will never talk to you ever again. Ever.
Secondly, remember those codes for Goldeneye 007 that let you play as the Rare staff in multi? There's a character that looks JUST like Ed, or at least i always thought so. I only ever had one person agree with me, so i'm throwing it out there to see if anyone else remembers seeing his face in Goldeneye. Anyone? Ok what about a character that looked like David Duchovny??
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Post by: Pale on January 13, 2010, 03:44:53 PM
I guess I just don't see them getting 120 NBA players to allow them to photograph them in 6 different goofy poses....
So yeah, I envision like two stock players association images that look like ass.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
I think it would be more like filming them make various faces for 10 -15 sec and then splicing it together to make the faces that they want.
It would be like stop motion picture swap and could look very good if handled exactly like I imagine it in my head.
I'm gonna see if I can find an example somewhere online.
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Post by: Pale on January 13, 2010, 04:32:01 PM
Still doing this to 120 players is a ton more work than EA has ever done for any sports games I can remember. I mean, in NBA 10 they didn't even bother bringing rookies in for head shots.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2010, 04:49:01 PM
I'm sure they have tons of footage that can be used if they didn't want in-studio shots taken. They could take stills from Live game footage or press conferences. There are ways to do it without calling in everybody for some 1 on 1 camera time.
But you are right, that seem like alot of effort over current 3D modeling techniques, but if it pays off, it will have all been worth it. I just really hoping that EA does not let us down on this one.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 14, 2010, 09:52:16 PM
First of all; for anyone that doesn't know whoever Ed O'Neil is on this forum.. please speak up because i will never talk to you ever again. Ever.
I know who he is; he was the guy who played the Governor of Pennsylvania on The West Wing.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 14, 2010, 09:58:30 PM
i'm not sure if thats true cuz i never watched the west wing, but i'll take your word for it and say;
we can be friends.
You're welcome ;)
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 14, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
It's definitely true; I checked IMDB before I posted it. He was only in a few episodes, but he very nearly stole the nomination for president and I'm pretty sure he ended up as Santos' VP at the end of the series.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 14, 2010, 10:10:07 PM
thus, he should be in NBA JAM WII!
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 14, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
Why the hell not? People want politicians in the game; why not some fictional politicians as well?
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Post by: EasyCure on January 14, 2010, 10:28:59 PM
We should have Christina Applegate as a cheerleader while we're at it! David Faustino can be an announcer, or a ref! ref would be better since his voice is annoying
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 14, 2010, 10:39:06 PM
They could also get Katey Segal in there and poke out one of her eyes.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 15, 2010, 02:14:29 AM
Joking aside, Ed O'Neil really deserves to be given bigger and better roles. He's been almost unheard of since Married with Children ended. Dutch was an awesome movie. We need more like that.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 15, 2010, 02:38:32 AM
Modern Family....?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 15, 2010, 04:28:06 AM
So yeah trying to get back on topic. Here is a few details. When the player pulls of a good play they smile or have a goofy look to them. If they do a bad play they are sad. Substitute at Halftime. Unlockable Mascots Old School Legends(Larry Bird and More)
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Post by: Dasmos on January 15, 2010, 06:25:21 AM
So I was playing NBA Hangtime today. Man, what a great game. Make the game like this with updated rosters and a visual upgrade and you have me sold.
**** online, this game is best played with a few friends and a couple of beers.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 17, 2010, 06:12:28 AM
A few more details. There is going to be Motion Controls.Here is how it is going to work. A button Passes B button is Turbo Swipe controller side to side for crossover and steal on offense and defense respectivly. Shooting and blocking is like in Wii Sports Resort. Pull up Wiimote to jump than flick your wrist to shoot.Same motion to block on defense. To do a dunk you hold turbo and then you do the motion of shooting the ball. To shove someone you hold turbo and do the side to side motion as if you are trying to steal the ball. To do a spin move that counters the shove you do the side to side motion while holding turbo.
Oh before anybody complains about the motion controls there will be NES style controls.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 17, 2010, 03:44:13 PM
I hope there is also CC support.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 18, 2010, 06:34:36 PM
A few more details. There is going to be Motion Controls.Here is how it is going to work. A button Passes B button is Turbo Swipe controller side to side for crossover and steal on offense and defense respectivly. Shooting and blocking is like in Wii Sports Resort. Pull up Wiimote to jump than flick your wrist to shoot.Same motion to block on defense. To do a dunk you hold turbo and then you do the motion of shooting the ball. To shove someone you hold turbo and do the side to side motion as if you are trying to steal the ball. To do a spin move that counters the shove you do the side to side motion while holding turbo.
Oh before Ian complains about the motion controls there will be NES style controls.
Remember folks:
add ;) :P to my post!!
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 19, 2010, 02:32:01 AM
This weeks teams are up. Pick 3 players for the Timberwolves,Grizzleys, and Warriors.Check the main site.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 19, 2010, 08:25:12 PM
I was just thinking, would people care if The Harlem Globetrotters were an lockable team?
I keep seeing commercials for them during this ep of House that I'm watching and I don't think they've been in a video game for a really long time.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 19, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
they were only ever good on scooby doo
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 19, 2010, 09:17:01 PM
They had a game on the NES but would people care if it was oldschool GlobeTrotters or the Current Trotters?
I have seen the GlobeTrotters in person back in 2002. It was fun to watch.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 20, 2010, 12:06:27 AM
The globetrotters are more about theatrics than athletics, if you know what I mean.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 20, 2010, 12:24:41 AM
Which makes them a perfect fit for this game. Have them do unorthodox things during the game like rollovers instead of cross overs and crazy trick passes while using a special red white and blue ball.
Why not go all out with them and just have them be the ultimate unlockable team after you beat everything and they can do things that other teams can't do. like teleport invisible passes and bouncing balls off your face. 3pt dunks (take off from the 3pt line) and whatever other crazy things you can think of that don't actually break the game.
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Post by: Pale on January 20, 2010, 08:58:27 AM
It's odd that they are voting for who to be included based on teams. It should be players at this point and work out what teams they play for later. With the trade deadline looming and the biggest free agent summer in the history of the league coming up, the big name players probably won't be on the same team by the time the game comes out.
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Post by: broodwars on January 20, 2010, 09:28:45 AM
It's odd that they are voting for who to be included based on teams. It should be players at this point and work out what teams they play for later. With the trade deadline looming and the biggest free agent summer in the history of the league coming up, the big name players probably won't be on the same team by the time the game comes out.
Fair point on the trade deadline issue. I know it's a big question mark with my Jazz if Boozer (or some of our other big name players like Kirilenko) will still be with us after February. At the moment, though, I'll take what they're doing now over having everyone basically voting in the entire rosters for the Magic, Celtics, and Lakers (probably the most popular rosters in the NBA, followed by the Suns; Nuggets; and Rockets).
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Post by: Pale on January 20, 2010, 09:43:54 AM
Good point. We already know fan voting doesn't work for the all star game. They should just trash this idea and hire experts to set the line-ups at the last possible moment.
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Post by: broodwars on January 20, 2010, 09:52:17 AM
Good point. We already know fan voting doesn't work for the all star game.
Ugh...don't remind me. Probably largely because of China, we're (as of last official count) getting Tracy McGrady in the All-Star game this year, a guy who's barely played this year (if he's played at all). We're also getting Allen Iverson because...he's Allen Iverson, despite him having an abysmal year.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 20, 2010, 01:03:29 PM
I was just thinking, would people care if The Harlem Globetrotters were an lockable team?
This is the sort of game that should have all kinds of crazy unlockable players and teams. The Globetrotters, retired players, team mascots, dead presidents, the Three Stooges, Darth Vader, Muppets... and my stream of consciousness already broke down, but you get the idea.
It won't happen, by the way.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 31, 2010, 01:05:38 AM
So yeah this weeks teams are Knicks,Hornets and Nets. There is 2 days left to vote on teams.
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Post by: Adrock on January 31, 2010, 10:07:55 AM
This game needs Team Coco.
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Post by: ThePerm on January 31, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
mario was in NBA street a couple of years ago...
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 08, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
Looks like NBA Jam is scheduled for release Q3 FY 2011 (Oct. - Dec. 2010) according to EA FY 2011 release list.
http://i45.tinypic.com/344fwo9.png
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Post by: broodwars on February 24, 2010, 02:17:06 PM
I certainly couldn't let this week go by without letting you folks know that there's a new player voting poll on the NBA Jam site for the Mavericks, the Jazz, and the Raptors. The correct choices for the Jazz are Deron Williams, Carlos Boozer/Paul Millsap (depending whether you think Boozer will still be with the Jazz by the time this game comes out), and Andrei Kirilenko. To choose otherwise would make you a foolish fool who foolishly votes for foolishly foolish fools playing on foolish teams. Ignorance is to be whipped. ;)
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Post by: Adrock on February 24, 2010, 05:17:45 PM
I wish I could vote the Utah Jazz out of the game. No offense.
Here, check this out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdPQ3QxDZ1s)
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Post by: broodwars on February 24, 2010, 05:19:54 PM
I wish I could vote the Utah Jazz out of the game. No offense.
No offense taken if you can explain why. ;) Otherwise, them's fighting words. :P:
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Post by: Adrock on February 24, 2010, 05:32:00 PM
I've never been a fan of the Jazz. I could site specific occasions when they've beaten teams I've liked, but I think it all boils down specifically to my dislike of Karl Malone, as a player not, you know, as a person. I'm sure he's a gentleman when he's not playing dirty. Why don't you throw a couple more elbows, Karl? I know he's long retired, but now, it's just a lifelong vendetta against the Jazz.
/shakes fist at the Utah Jazz.
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Post by: broodwars on February 24, 2010, 05:36:39 PM
I've never been a fan of the Jazz. I could site specific occasions when they've beaten teams I've liked, but I think it all boils down specifically to my dislike of Karl Malone, as a player not, you know, as a person. I'm sure he's a gentleman when he's not playing dirty. Why don't you throw a couple more elbows, Karl? I know he's long retired, but now, it's just a lifelong vendetta against the Jazz.
/shakes fist at the Utah Jazz.
If it makes you feel better, my favorite NBA player has always been John Stockton and he was always the one I watched Jazz games for (similarly, Deron Williams is the guy I watch this Jazz team for). It's been too long since I've seen Malone play to tell you if I thought his play was dirty, but from my recollections I just remember a lot of hard physical play from a guy who could probably bench press a truck. Frankly, in this wussified league I wish we'd see more physical play like the older days. No intentional harming of players, of course, but none of this business about stopping a guy on a fast break by sticking your hand out and slapping him on the wrist. If you're going to foul, make it one that makes the other guy think twice about going up against you in the paint.
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Post by: Adrock on February 24, 2010, 05:59:13 PM
John Stockton was a great player who was sullied by his association with Karl Malone. Unfortunately, can't have Stockton without Malone. It's like when you see a really hot girl and you want to talk to her then her stupid, annoying friend walks up beside her and you need one of your friends to take the fall and wingman the annoying one out of the way, except there was no way to wingman Karl Malone away because he was too busy throwing elbows and taking cheapshots.
In fact, I hate Karl Malone so much that I nicknamed the big bald majini in RE5 Karl Malone just so I could live out my life long dream of tossing grenade at Karl Malone.
Anyway, it would be nice if they had a legends roster in NBA Jam, just as long as there was no Karl Malone. Okay, I'll stop.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 12, 2010, 05:29:48 PM
NBA Jam Teaser Trailer: Boom Shakalaka!! (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/teaser-trailer-nba-jam/63071?type=flv)
GameTrailers TV has a world premier of gameplay footage tonight.
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Post by: Nemo on March 12, 2010, 08:17:28 PM
Is that the whole video? Or is that just a teaser for the real video they're going show of the game?
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Post by: Halbred on March 12, 2010, 08:22:43 PM
Ha! A teaser for the teaser.
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Post by: Dasmos on March 12, 2010, 09:32:50 PM
I dunno what's going on above the scoreboard in that video, it seems to always have the Cavaliers logo even when it's clear that none of the teams are Cleveland.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 12, 2010, 09:53:05 PM
Faithful to the original & look real good. Day 1! **** is on FIRE!!!
Also I like the added touch of the flexible hoop and backboard.
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Post by: Stogi on March 13, 2010, 06:55:37 AM
*speechless*
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Post by: Adrock on March 13, 2010, 09:44:21 AM
Amazing!
I think I might have to start with Kobe and Pau.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 13, 2010, 10:04:28 AM
Did you guys noticed how after the dunks the backboard and rim shook? That was pretty nice. Lakers are my team so Kobe and Pau are going to be my team. Artest likely will be my sub.
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Post by: Adrock on March 13, 2010, 10:11:05 AM
Have you played the original NBA Jam to get inspiration for this game?
The original creator of NBA Jam is working with EA on making this happen.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 23, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
Is that the person who will be interviewed?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 23, 2010, 11:24:40 PM
Questions to ask:
About how many secret characters do you expect to have in the game? Can we count on a Team Obama (Obama/Biden/Hilary)?
Any classic players? Like Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, etc. etc.?
Are motion controls used in the game? and if yes, how are they used? Is there classic control support, wiichuck support and single wiimote support?
Do you feel that motion controls enhance the immersion into the game? Do you often find your self jumping out of your seat with wiimote held high in the air during a critical shot or standing in my opponents face having just slammed the wiimote and nunchuck to down towards my lap because I didn't want to "fake the funk on a nasty dunk" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-vPBqLplg)?
Is it true that the breaking of the backboard is out in this game? Is it also true that it's because of the backboard manufacturers not wanting to make their product look flawed?
The videos make it seem like you've recaptured the look and feel of the Original NBA JAM and the T.E., will my skills from the old school version translate into instant familiarity with the new version too?
how is the online component going to add to this experience? Is there WiiSpeak support?
The videos of this game makes the front of my pants swell(with nostalgia). Can I have a free copy!? please!?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
I guess Megabyte isn't going to answer my question.
Is there going to be 2 teams for each team?
I mean a Classic Team and a modern team?
If this is true can you select which players you have on each team? Like for the Lakers can you select players from different eras of that team and place them in one team?
Is Tag mode in the game?
Is there going to be an all star team in the game and a Rookies team? In NBA Jam TE there was like 20 combinations of players for the Rookie team.
How many combonations of players can be in the modern team and Classic team?
Any secret characters in the game?
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Post by: vudu on March 24, 2010, 01:42:05 PM
What's the targeted price point? I don't see this game doing very well if it's a full $50 game, but if it's $20 or $30 it could be pretty huge.
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Post by: Shaymin on March 24, 2010, 09:56:34 PM
Is it possible to announce who will be providing the play-by-play?
Or to put it another way: Gus Johnson (http://www.gusjohnsongetsbuckets.com/): Yay or nay?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2010, 10:04:02 PM
I don't know about play by play, but the guy who voiced the original is voicing this one too.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 31, 2010, 11:26:58 PM
So when is the interview going to be done and is it to late submit questions Megabyte?
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Post by: Adrock on April 01, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Apparently, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird are the "final boss" team in the game and this is not an April Fools joke.
Magic Johnson and Larry Bird Confirmed for NBA Jam (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178603)
Was Michael Jordan too expensive to get into the game? I'm still hoping for more Hall of Famers like Charles Barkley. Yes, he needs to shut up most of the time, but I was a Sixers fan back in the day. Celebrity teams would be sweet too...
Also, lulz @ Gilbert Arenas. That'll teach you to be an asshole....
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Hate to break it to you, but this was posted in talkback yesterday afternoon. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30974.0
NWR has been on top of it lately.
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Post by: Adrock on April 01, 2010, 05:22:10 PM
I don't go to the talkback forum.....
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Post by: TJ Spyke on April 01, 2010, 06:23:22 PM
It's also on the frontpage of the site.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2010, 06:52:56 PM
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 13, 2010, 08:30:10 PM
I think I mentioned that at least Bird was in the game in this thread.
Anyway do you have a "Jamism" A catch phrase to put in NBA JAM? EA will put your phrase in the game. You got to go to the Facebook page linked to in the below video and post your Catch phrase. Well here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7ARObC7cU1s) you can see all the details.
Did we ever have that interview?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2010, 08:42:06 PM
"Don't Fake the Funk on a Nasty Dunk!!"
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 13, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
I think I mentioned that at least Bird was in the game in this thread.
Anyway do you have a "Jamism" A catch phrase to put in NBA JAM? EA will put your phrase in the game. You got to go to the Facebook page linked to in the below video and post your Catch phrase. Well here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7ARObC7cU1s) you can see all the details.
Did we ever have that interview?
I guess I wasn't clear.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
No I got what you were saying. it's a facebook thing, get your phrase in the game contest. it just made me remember an old phrase, so I posted it.
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Post by: Adrock on May 19, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
Unlockable Celebs Will Return to NBA Jam (http://kotaku.com/5543053/unlockable-celebs-will-return-to-nba-jam)
Yay! Okay, instant buy now.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 19, 2010, 09:31:14 PM
Whoohooo
I call team Heidi & Spencer
no no no no
team Snookie & Situation!!!!
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 19, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
They need a Steve Jobs/Steve Wozniak team. Physically they'd be awful, but Woz could dunk because he'd be standing on his Segway, and Jobs would use his Reality Distortion Field to make himself seem better.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 19, 2010, 09:58:56 PM
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When it hits the Wii, NBA Jam will pack more than 100 unlockables - including playable celebrities, this time with their permission. "If you've thought about it, chances are we have too and it's going in," says a developer
You know they showed a picture of B. Clinton on purpose. That is a personal wink wink to me that President Obama will be in the game.
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Post by: Shaymin on May 19, 2010, 11:43:31 PM
What are the odds that they get the First Baller?
(plz be 100%)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 10, 2010, 05:38:54 PM
So we have a release time frame October 2010. If I recall correctly that is when the NBA season starts. So the date makes sense.
I will ask again but whatever happened with that interview Megabyte?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 10, 2010, 05:39:53 PM
I hope the advertise this game during the Finals to build awareness for when they advertise it again in the fall for release.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 10, 2010, 05:54:27 PM
I haven't been able to watch the finals so I haven't been able to check ads on things. I have been keeping track of scores online though.
Anyway its nice to have a date for the games release. Oh someone mentioned a page back about Jordan in the game and he is being the cover athlete for NBA 2K11.So that might be a reason for Jordan possibly not being in NBA Jam.I don't know if Jordan is going to be in NBA Jam or not though.
A little piece of trivia Jordan was in the arcade version of NBA Jam back in the day but it was like the early version of NBA Jam.
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Post by: Mop it up on June 10, 2010, 06:28:51 PM
The NBA season is in the fall? I thought it was in spring...
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 10, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
October is when training camp happens then a few exibition games.Regular season starts in November it typically goes till I want to say May. Then the playoffs start and go till Mid to late June.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on June 10, 2010, 06:57:45 PM
And most people feel the season is way too long. The season is 7 months, then the playoffs are over a month (since they decided to make EVERY round a best of 7 series, the first round used to be best of 3). The only sports season that I think is longer is NASCAR (which is like 10 months).
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 10, 2010, 07:00:53 PM
When was the first round a best of 3?
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Post by: Adrock on June 10, 2010, 07:19:45 PM
I think they changed it in 2003. It was a bad move. The playoffs don't really get interesting until the Conference Finals.
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Post by: Ian Sane on June 10, 2010, 07:42:33 PM
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only sports season that I think is longer is NASCAR (which is like 10 months).
NHL is pretty long. Starts in October and just ended last night. Probably about a month longer on average. I would say the amount of games is more important than the amount of days. MLB has 162 regular season games which seems like huge overkill to me.
I've never had a problem with the length of the NHL season and in fact the off-season feels like an eternity each year. But here in Vancouver the NHL is it. It isn't like being in one of these multi-league cities where some local team is always playing. I imagine in places like Portland or Salt Lake City the fans are glad to have such a long NBA season since that's the only game in town.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 16, 2010, 05:43:13 PM
New video from the E3 floor! Talk about what Legends are in the game and some of the secret characters.
If you don't want to be spoiled don't watch.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zSd-Os0iGSs
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 21, 2010, 05:45:37 PM
Hey here is 1 quarter of NBA Jam. Cavs and Magic.
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=127644
Looks like everything is in the original that we love.
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Post by: Shaymin on July 07, 2010, 11:34:29 PM
Germany has ratings for a PS3 and 360 version (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/07/nba-jam-is-heating-up-for-xbox-360/).
If this gets the Dead Space Extraction treatment (released as a download on the HD systems) I'm dropping this game altogether.
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Post by: Adrock on July 07, 2010, 11:36:02 PM
No, you're not.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on July 07, 2010, 11:56:16 PM
Thankfully just being rated doesn't mean a game will actually be released. And EA is officially saying it is still Wii exclusive.
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Post by: broodwars on July 07, 2010, 11:59:14 PM
Well, if the rumor's true and we are going to see PS3/360 versions, I'm probably going to get the PS3 version if I get it at all. Of course, with my team getting significantly weaker today with the loss of Boozer (good riddance, though I'll miss his talent) to the Bulls in Free Agency, I don't know if I'd want JAM at all. Nothing against JAM, just that it's looking like it's going to be a bad season to be a Jazz fan and I don't think I'll be in the mood to buy a basketball game to commemorate it.
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Post by: that Baby guy on July 08, 2010, 02:51:10 AM
Wait, why is the game being boycotted if it isn't a Nintendo exclusive? How does it being ported later to other platforms lower the quality of the game? Ok, if EA announces bonus content in the other platforms, that's one thing, and I can see holding out for the best version.
I'm tempted to buy it no matter what, because I remember having fun with its predecessors. I just don't know if I'd spend enough time with it. I couldn't care less if it showed up on a different platform.
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Post by: King of Twitch on July 08, 2010, 02:57:15 AM
Knowing that other people can't enjoy it because they own another console is a central part of a game's enjoyment.
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Post by: Shaymin on July 08, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
It's a financial decision - if it does go to the HD systems as a retail release, I'll be OK. It's just that I don't want to spend $50 on a game that would be $15/1200 Allards on another system.
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Post by: Ian Sane on July 08, 2010, 12:27:40 PM
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It's a financial decision - if it does go to the HD systems as a retail release, I'll be OK. It's just that I don't want to spend $50 on a game that would be $15/1200 Allards on another system.
And if it turned out like that then I'm buying the PS3 version, no questions asked. I would be a complete sucker not to.
Third party relations on the Wii are not so hot. Acting as if a game is a Wii exclusive, only to make it available on the other consoles for LESS money would be taking advantage of Wii owners. No third party treats the Wii with any respect, we're treated as gullable marks meant for exploitation. This sort of treatment also makes it so that it is never surprising when a third party does this sort of thing. I think we almost expect it now and that's why these rumours regarding NBA Jam even exist.
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Post by: Mop it up on July 08, 2010, 05:12:03 PM
Did anyone consider it could be the original NBA Jam being released on the other systems? Or would it not be possible to re-release that?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 08, 2010, 05:16:33 PM
Did anyone consider it could be the original NBA Jam being released on the other systems? Or would it not be possible to re-release that?
I was actually thinking that last night. Maybe it is the arcade verson of NBA Jam.
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Post by: Adrock on July 08, 2010, 05:19:08 PM
Wouldn't they have to license all those players to re-release the game?
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Post by: Mop it up on July 08, 2010, 05:22:07 PM
Hm, true, I'm not sure about that. I guess having the NBA licence isn't enough?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 08, 2010, 05:29:13 PM
I'm pretty sure they would only have to re-license the players that have retired. All other players (unless they opted out by having their own personal contracts) are part of the NBA Players Licensing.
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Post by: Morari on July 08, 2010, 08:05:58 PM
As long as I finally get to see that awesome Mortal Kombat court...
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3175219
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Post by: Adrock on July 08, 2010, 08:50:19 PM
I'm pretty sure they would only have to re-license the players that have retired. All other players (unless they opted out by having their own personal contracts) are part of the NBA Players Licensing.
The original NBA Jam came out in like 1993. Shaq might be the only active player from any version of the original.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on July 08, 2010, 09:41:17 PM
Take-Two Interactive was willing to pay hundreds of retired NFL players for All-Pro Football 2K8, so I think Electronic Arts (who have more money than T2) could do the same.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 08, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
Take-Two Interactive was willing to pay hundreds of retired NFL players for All-Pro Football 2K8, so I think Electronic Arts (who have more money than T2) could do the same.
They could do that, and they may, but I think it'd be much more likely that they'd go in and modify the original to give it current rosters. EA's done that before when they included classic versions of Madden as part of Collector's Edition packages.
EDIT: Also, we have to remember that EA didn't make the original. They bought the rights to the name, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have the rights to re-release the original game.
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Post by: Adrock on July 09, 2010, 05:22:53 PM
I'm not sure it'd be worth it to pay someone like Tom Gugliotta to be in a re-release. How many people even remember who that is? Additionally, Take Two had a reason to sign all those players. EA locked up the NFL license for roughly the next 77 years. I think insanolord's suggestion that they just upgrade the rosters is far more likely though I'm curious as to who owns the rights to the original's game's code. The NBA owned the rights to the NBA Jam IP so it's possible they own the code as well.
On a completely unrelated note, the first thing that came to mind when I heard Lebron James was signing with Miami was "Dammit, the Heat are going to be assholes in NBA Jam." Too bad, that's the best scenario they have at being unstoppable. You're not winning championships when you sign 3 max players who all thrive with the ball in their hands and literally no one else. That's like having 3 Michael Jordan's on the same team. Someone is going to have to be Scottie Pippen. This isn't like Boston in 2008.
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Post by: Ian Sane on July 09, 2010, 05:49:31 PM
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On a completely unrelated note, the first thing that came to mind when I heard Lebron James was signing with Miami was "Dammit, the Heat are going to be assholes in NBA Jam."
Yeah, they are a perfect videogame team. But with NBA Jam you can only play as two guys at once so you won't be able to play as all three of them. So in theory any team with two stars should be able to compete with them.
It actually would be fun to play videogames based on the major sports with the best "videogame teams" where it's all about who is awesome on paper. In the old NBA Jam teams like Utah and Houston were awesome because they were Stockon-Malone and Hakeem-Drexler. Who cares who's on the bench? When you're only using those two guys you've got a perfect videogame team.
The Heat, Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Magic, Rockets and Mavericks all have perfect NBA Jam teams because you can exclusively use name players.
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Post by: Adrock on July 09, 2010, 05:57:12 PM
Yeah, they are a perfect videogame team. But with NBA Jam you can only play as two guys at once so you won't be able to play as all three of them. So in theory any team with two stars should be able to compete with them.
Isn't there at least 1 sub? Let's say Chris Bosh is the "worst" of the 3, that's still Chris Bosh as your substitution. No team in the NBA has a 3rd option that good.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 03, 2010, 05:55:09 AM
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NBA Jam included as a FREE 1 time download with NBA Elite 2011 for PS360 (http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/videogames/blog/_/name/thegamer/id/5433064/nba-elite-11-include-free-downloadable-version-nba-jam?readmore=fullstory)
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"NBA Jam" will be coming to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 after all, but not in the way anyone was expecting. In an unprecedented move, EA Sports is packing a free, one-time only download code for "Jam" in every copy of "NBA Elite 11", giving basketball fans two games for just $59.99 when the titles launch October 5.
Included in the downloadable version of "NBA Jam" will be three game modes -- Play Now, Classic Campaign, and Online (up to four players) -- meaning that the new Remix Tour featuring boss battles against legends like Magic Johnson is now exclusive to the Wii version of the game.
"We're still holding back the Remix Tour for the Wii consumer, and that's about 20 hours of gameplay," explains Jordan Edelstein, Vice President of Marketing for EA Sports. "But for the PS3 and 360, we want people to try 'Elite'. We feel like 'NBA Elite 11' is a great product and we want people to give it a chance and see all the changes we're making. So as a way to say thanks to these people, we are going to let them experience 'Jam'. It's not the full product, but it's a good portion of it.
"And the only way to play 'Jam' on the 360 and PS3 is by picking up 'Elite'. There's a one-time use code that will be in every copy of 'Elite', so you just go online and redeem it. We're not selling 'Jam' on PSN or Xbox Live. If you still want the full product, the full experience is on the Wii, but if you pick up 'Elite', you're still getting a good taste of it, especially with the inclusion of online play."
It's a "gimped" version that doesn't include a Wii Exclusive mode, and they aren't selling it separately, but am I really expected to pay full price for some thing that you are mostly giving away to purchasers of a different game on the HD system just because it has one extra mode?
This better be a $29.99 game, and there better be more than just 1 extra "Wii Exclusive" mode.
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Post by: broodwars on August 03, 2010, 07:54:03 AM
NBA Jam included as a FREE 1 time download with NBA Elite 2011 for PS360 (http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/videogames/blog/_/name/thegamer/id/5433064/nba-elite-11-include-free-downloadable-version-nba-jam?readmore=fullstory)
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"NBA Jam" will be coming to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 after all, but not in the way anyone was expecting. In an unprecedented move, EA Sports is packing a free, one-time only download code for "Jam" in every copy of "NBA Elite 11", giving basketball fans two games for just $59.99 when the titles launch October 5.
Included in the downloadable version of "NBA Jam" will be three game modes -- Play Now, Classic Campaign, and Online (up to four players) -- meaning that the new Remix Tour featuring boss battles against legends like Magic Johnson is now exclusive to the Wii version of the game.
"We're still holding back the Remix Tour for the Wii consumer, and that's about 20 hours of gameplay," explains Jordan Edelstein, Vice President of Marketing for EA Sports. "But for the PS3 and 360, we want people to try 'Elite'. We feel like 'NBA Elite 11' is a great product and we want people to give it a chance and see all the changes we're making. So as a way to say thanks to these people, we are going to let them experience 'Jam'. It's not the full product, but it's a good portion of it.
"And the only way to play 'Jam' on the 360 and PS3 is by picking up 'Elite'. There's a one-time use code that will be in every copy of 'Elite', so you just go online and redeem it. We're not selling 'Jam' on PSN or Xbox Live. If you still want the full product, the full experience is on the Wii, but if you pick up 'Elite', you're still getting a good taste of it, especially with the inclusion of online play."
It's a "gimped" version that doesn't include a Wii Exclusive mode, and they aren't selling it separately, but am I really expected to pay full price for some thing that you are mostly giving away to purchasers of a different game on the HD system just because it has one extra mode?
This better be a $29.99 game, and there better be more than just 1 extra "Wii Exclusive" mode.
Well, as I was already going to get NBA Elite 11 and at a pretty fair discount due to my employer, I'll probably just stick with the PS3 version of JAM and get the Wii version when I can find it severely discounted. Interesting move on EA's part, though I have to wonder:
A.) Just how little faith do they have in their rebranding of NBA Live if they're using a whole other product to help sell it? B.) Don't they realize that this is probably going to cannibalize the Wii version's sales rather severely without giving them any profit in return (since they're literally giving away copies of the HD JAM)?
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Post by: SixthAngel on August 03, 2010, 09:10:02 AM
What!!?
Am I supposed to pay full price for a game they are giving away?
This game better be super cheap.
This makes me think, previews aside, there has to be something seriously wrong with the game. A release across every console for $40 I think would have been great but there has to be something missing/wrong with the game for them to choose the FREE option.
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Post by: Sarail on August 03, 2010, 11:04:58 AM
Hmmm... decisions, decisions. I'm not really a fan of simulation basketball games anymore (my last favorite sim game was NBA Live '96)... so I think I'll go for the Wii version of Jam. Although, I'm really hoping the price of this game is either $29.99 or $39.99. Anymore than that and I think Wii owners will be getting truly gipped of a game -- Remix Tour or none at all.
I do plan to play the crap outta Classic mode, though. Can't wait for this game... BOOMSHAKALAKA! :P
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Post by: Ian Sane on August 03, 2010, 03:35:26 PM
Well I am definitely going to be waiting for reviews on this one. What if NBA Elite turns out to be good and there's only a $10 difference between getting both games?
Isn't it rather frustrating that with Wii third party support there is always a catch? Anything that could be considered good news is always somehow soiled later on. EA has been involved in this before. Dead Space's reveal initially created a lot of optimism and then it was revealed that it was to be a spin-off and then later an on-rails shooter. It was like if one specifically wanted to cause the maximum disappointment to hopeful Wii owners.
The Wii's "exclusive" is more or less a feature of the PS3/X360 game. How do we know if NBA Jam was ever truly planned as a standalone title? Perhaps "Jam mode" was an idea for NBA Elite to begin with and someone came up with the clever idea of adding an extra feature or two, stripping it out and using it as a standalone Wii release to get some NBA product on the system. And they were clever enough to announce it as a Wii title first so that it looked like the HD consoles got it as a bonus, instead of Wii owners being given only part of a game.
This is realistically only part of a game unless they give it a discounted price. $60 gets you this and NBA Elite if you don't buy it for the Wii. In terms of dollar value NBA Jam is worth about $30 tops.
No matter what though I don't see how Wii owners can't be insulted by this. The Wii is constantly treated as a joke by third parties and then they're not only making one of our exclusives multiplatform but they're giving it away for "free"? To me it's like they're saying that a Wii exclusive is worth nothing.
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Post by: Caterkiller on August 04, 2010, 04:09:05 PM
How dissapointing... The one non-Mario sports game I was going to get. I hope to go to E3 again next year, I just want to talk to any old rep in person. To be a Wii owner is to have everything and nothing! Mostly nothing...
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Post by: nickmitch on August 04, 2010, 09:52:44 PM
I gotta admit, I'm really upset about this. It would've been a great exclusive, even if it was just a timed exclusive. But FREE? I dunno if I'm gonna get this at all. I'll wait on the price.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 04, 2010, 10:02:18 PM
I was thinking about getting this, and I was also thinking about buying a basketball game for my 360 this year. I'd have gone with the Wii version of NBA Jam and the 2K NBA game, but getting both in one game is tempting.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 04, 2010, 10:39:08 PM
I was thinking about getting this, and I was also thinking about buying a basketball game for my 360 this year. I'd have gone with the Wii version of NBA Jam and the 2K NBA game, but getting both in one game is tempting.
And now EA's plan is working....
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Post by: Sarail on August 04, 2010, 10:46:27 PM
I was thinking about getting this, and I was also thinking about buying a basketball game for my 360 this year. I'd have gone with the Wii version of NBA Jam and the 2K NBA game, but getting both in one game is tempting.
And now EA's plan is working....
Evil, EVIL EA. :P
I think I've decided... I'm gonna get the Wii version after all. I'm hoping there's gonna be online, but if not... oh well. As a Wii owner, I've been shafted majorly when it comes to online features anyway (exceptions being The Conduit and Monster Hunter Tri). I just really hope the price justifies the amount of content in the game. I don't see myself paying over $39.99 for this...
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 04, 2010, 10:53:42 PM
I was thinking about getting this, and I was also thinking about buying a basketball game for my 360 this year. I'd have gone with the Wii version of NBA Jam and the 2K NBA game, but getting both in one game is tempting.
And now EA's plan is working....
For me to do it, Elite would have to get pretty good reviews, and that's if I decide to get an NBA basketball sim game at all. I'm not an NBA fan, and if I were I'd be a Cavs fan, and it's really not a good year for them. If I decide I don't want a sim and just want NBA Jam, I'd go with the Wii version, unless I find a good deal on a download code on eBay.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 07, 2010, 02:42:36 PM
@rubberducky00 not on the Wii. It will on XBOX 360 and PS3
NBA Jam Wii no longer on fire, the problem has been contained and the threat of spreading over the internet is no longer imminent.
Thanx EA for smothering that before you could have an out of control success on your hands.
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Post by: Halbred on September 07, 2010, 03:10:47 PM
I just stopped caring about NBA Jam for the Wii.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 07, 2010, 03:29:15 PM
I'll still get it if it's $30 new @ release.
If they try to charge full price, I'll just go plug in my SNES and forget all about the new one until it hits $20 in the bargain bins a few months down the road.
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Post by: broodwars on September 07, 2010, 03:32:37 PM
If they try to charge full price, I'll just go plug in my SNES and forget all about the new one until it hits $20 in the bargain bins a few months down the road.
I don't think it's going to take even that long. From the sounds of it, I don't see how this game doesn't become another Dead Space Extraction and hit the bargain bins just as quickly.
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Post by: UncleBob on September 07, 2010, 03:38:45 PM
If they try to charge full price, I'll just go plug in my SNES and forget all about the new one until it hits $20 in the bargain bins a few months down the road.
I don't think it's going to take even that long. From the sounds of it, I don't see how this game doesn't become another Dead Space Extraction and hit the bargain bins just as quickly.
And then 3rd party games don't sell on the Wii so everyone should just stop trying to make them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 07, 2010, 04:32:30 PM
If it gets good reviews I'll buy it some time in the future... USED. HA HA HA HA!! Seriously though I don't think anything would offend EA more.
I don't get why EA doesn't get it. Dead Space Extraction could have got perfect 10 review scores and given out free blowjobs and the game would have bombed because of a key design choice that absolutely pissed off the target demographic. They made in an on-rails shooter. That's just a big middle finger to Wii owners. That's the big joke - that any decent game on the other consoles gets turned into an on-rails spinoff on the Wii. It's like we cracked jokes about what the Wii Dead Space would be like when it was announced and then they actually made that exact game.
With NBA Jam is has been the same thing. From day one we assumed that getting this Wii exclusive game was too good to be true. There HAS to be a catch, right? And eventually we find out it's getting ported to the other consoles as a bonus with another game. ****, that is like the sort of worst-case-scenario joke assumption we would have come up with. But, no, this is really what EA is doing. Same with no online. We all assumed that something had to be cut from the Wii version to make it that much more useless and here it is.
It's going to cost $50. Why? Because that's fucking stupid and it's the worst-case-scenario we can speculate on. So it will happen. EA will do specifically what will turn off Wii owners the most.
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Post by: Halbred on September 07, 2010, 04:36:15 PM
I dunno if it has a price point yet. If it does, and it's $50, that's bullshit. Releasing it at $40 would be better, but I think that if they want sales, it has to be $30.
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Post by: nickmitch on September 07, 2010, 06:18:19 PM
I think I might just get NBA Elite 2011, download Jam, sell Elite back to Gamestop and then use the credit towards preordering a 3DS.
I'll probably net the same amount as the Wii Version.
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Post by: Mop it up on September 07, 2010, 06:37:39 PM
It's amazing that EA still doesn't get it. It's like they aren't even observing the sales of their own games on the Wii. EA is sabotaging themselves to fulfill their own prophecy, that third-party titles don't sell well on Wii. Well of course they don't when they are more expensive and lack key features. I know, I know, that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but when this kind of thing happens I can't help but wonder what's going on.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 07, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
You will only get about $25 from GameStop for it (even on release day), so you would end up paying $35 (plus tax) for the XBLA/PSN version of the games. Unless you really want achievements and online play (and don't mind missing out on the Wii-exclusive modes), then you would be better off getting the Wii version if EA is smart and charges $30. You will only save money if EA charges $40 or $50 for the Wii version.
At least EA is not doing that crap Online Pass in their other online Wii games. I refuse to buy any game that has such a system (which seems to be widespread as all games that use it are down in sales compared to previous entries).
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Post by: broodwars on September 07, 2010, 07:00:46 PM
At least EA is not doing that crap Online Pass in their other online Wii games. I refuse to buy any game that has such a system (which seems to be widespread as all games that use it are down in sales compared to previous entries).
I'm not so sure that's due to the Online Pass system so much as the fact that it's only really appeared in yearly online sports titles so far, titles that are probably hit the hardest in a bad economy since the user can just hold onto last year's version and just swap in the roster updates they need without really missing anything. I'd like to see something like a Call of Duty game (granted, yearly iteration as well, but still differentiated a bit more than with something like Madden) that has an Online Pass system for comparison before we start blaming lower sales on the Online Pass.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 07, 2010, 07:08:13 PM
Since Activision's moronic CEO has said he wants to make COD a subscription service, I wouldn't be surprised if next years game does have it.
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Post by: nickmitch on September 07, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
You will only get about $25 from GameStop for it (even on release day), so you would end up paying $35 (plus tax) for the XBLA/PSN version of the games. Unless you really want achievements and online play (and don't mind missing out on the Wii-exclusive modes), then you would be better off getting the Wii version if EA is smart and charges $30. You will only save money if EA charges $40 or $50 for the Wii version.
Right. I'd still have to weigh options if the game is $40, but at $50, I'll more likely than not carry out that plan.
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Post by: Adrock on September 07, 2010, 09:14:03 PM
Since I currently know ZERO people who actually care about NBA Jam, I was really hoping EA could get online multiplayer to work on the Wii. Online Multiplayer > Remix Tour
Everyone is placing the blame solely on EA, but I doubt it's from a lack of trying. This is from June:
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Trey Smith: Online is … well OK, we started at thirty frames per second. Everyone’s playing, everyone’s loving it, and that was about six months ago. Then Turmell came up and said, “It’s great! Everything is just like Jam… except for one thing” and we were all like, “What?” and he said, “Jam runs at sixty frames per second.” We were all like, “oh…” So it’s a complicated thing you know, it’s all about pushing it all down that tube just as fast except now we have to do it twice. We did it and that was a monumental success for the team because it now runs at a silky smooth sixty frames per second and it absolutely did make a big difference on the gameplay front.
Once we made that jump, online all of the sudden became that much more difficult. We haven’t given up yet. We still have a few months to tie some things together. I’m not closing that door yet, but I’m gonna tell ya right now we are not there. We are not there, and we are not going to do it half-assed. We aren’t going to put it up, and it’s chunky, and it’s not Jam.
The thing about the Wii is it’s really about four people hanging out in a living room. Especially with the gestures and the taunting that goes on, it’s just like the old arcades with four players standing at a cabinet. There’s that social multiplayer goodness that the Wii and NBA Jam do so well. That was one of the questions we asked ourselves, “Sixty frames or online? Which one will we really bet on?” and sixty frames absolutely improved the gameplay so that’s what we chose and that’s where we are at. I’m not giving up yet, but we are not there yet.
On top of Nintendo's horribly gimped online structure, seems like the Wii just doesn't have the hardware for to handle online multiplayer. Normally, I'd call shenanigans. However, Nintendo couldn't get Super Smash Bros. Brawl to play consistently well online. Additionally, the Wii doesn't have enough RAM to fully support voice chat. It's hard not to fault Nintendo for this in some capacity. Some horrible oversights on Nintendo's part, or perhaps a complete lack of foresight. Trey Smith admitted that they got it working..... just not at 60 fps. That's on the so-called "Turmell Hit List." While I'm disappointed, I appreciate Smith and EA Canada's decision to go all-out or not at all. How easily could EA have just cashed in on the Jam name? They didn't. They tried to make the most authentic Jam experience. If that meant cutting online multiplayer from the Wii version, so be it. I respect that... I'd rather they not curbstomp my fond memories of the series. I remember when Fox tried to bring back Ghostbusters as Extreme Ghostbusters in the 1997. WTF, man?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 07, 2010, 09:18:02 PM
would a solid 30fps online have ruined the online experience?
how about a solid 45fps? why does it have to be 60fps or nothing at all? sounds more like a reason to fail than a goal to succeed.
I remain skeptical until it's proven otherwise.
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Post by: Adrock on September 07, 2010, 09:40:28 PM
would a solid 30fps online have ruined the online experience?
According to Mark Turmell, yes. NBA Jam must run at 60 fps and it does.... just not online on the Wii. Apparently, it did make a difference. Smith flat-out explained where they were on the online front and that they were trying. I guess I just don't understand what further proof you need. All along Smith and EA Canada talked about making an authentic NBA Jam game, like the original. If they're going to follow the "Turmell Hit List," then they can't just pick and choose from the list. That defeats the purpose of having the list. If they're going to go out of their way to ask Turmell for guidance and pointers and he flat-out says, "60 fps or GTFO!" then the game better run at 60 fps. Otherwise, what was the point?
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Post by: Morari on September 07, 2010, 09:53:11 PM
No game should run under 60FPS. Console gamers only accept lower frame rates due to old fashion television refresh rates. ;)
I don't understand why a game like this is posing such demands on them. It's a single court that is in view all of the time. It has a limited number of characters running around.
I've never noticed any issues with Brawl's online play except for when one of the players have terrible ping. They drag everything else down.
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Post by: nickmitch on September 07, 2010, 09:57:35 PM
The point is not having a feature in the retail version of a game missing, when it's there in a version of the same game you're giving out for free.
If it runs from 60 down to 45, I'm not gonna care. It's not gonna kill the online experience.
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Post by: Mop it up on September 07, 2010, 09:59:26 PM
Mario Kart Wii can have up to twelve players/systems connected at once, and somehow that game manages to run at 60FPS (unless you're playing the 2-player mode, in which case it is reduced to 30). I don't know if I buy that a game which connects only two systems can't handle a 60FPS game. And really, a little lag here and there won't ruin a game. It's something you learn to deal with and compensate for.
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Post by: Adrock on September 08, 2010, 12:29:29 AM
I'm giving EA Canada a pass because at least they tried. I won't fault them for cutting something because it wasn't up to their standards. That's the same principle every Nintendo fan praises the company for. Clearly, they tried. Smith admitted that they were working on online multiplayer when, if they weren't, he would have just said that there were no plans for online multiplayer. He made no promises. Nothing devious happened here. This is lose/lose for them. If they reduce the frames per second, it's not in the spirit of the original and fans are upset. 60 fps was their vision of NBA Jam and might mean the difference between a block or a steal or a crossover or an alley-oop. That makes all the difference in a game like this. If they stay as true to the original but have to nix online multiplayer, fans are upset. Given the choices, I think they made the right decision. If reducing the frame rate damaged the integrity of the gameplay (i.e. made it a worse game), then no, I don't advocate that option. That's what wrong with gaming. Companies make concessions that compromise gameplay and ultimately release sh*ttier games. No, thank you. Do not want.
The point is not having a feature in the retail version of a game missing, when it's there in a version of the same game you're giving out for free.
The point is that EA took a game built for the Wii and put it on much more powerful hardware. While the Wii can't handle 60 fps online, 360/PS3 can and does so very easily.
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Post by: nickmitch on September 08, 2010, 01:15:54 AM
I still don't think not having 60fps online is a big deal or "not in the spirit of the original." Having it at 30fps is better than not having it at all.
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Post by: Mop it up on September 08, 2010, 01:18:14 AM
I still don't think not having 60fps online is a big deal or "not in the spirit of the original." Having it at 30fps is better than not having it at all.
Fair enough but you're not designing the game. Mark Turmell, creator, designer and lead programmer for the original NBA Jam, says otherwise and EA Canada was adamant about checking off everything on the "Turmell Hit List." The guys at EA Canada a pretty passionate about the franchise (which is mainly why I'm defending their decision since obviously, they care about the game and preserving Jam's legacy). The list was a priority for them and apparently, it made the game better. I would love online multiplayer in the Wii version, but I'd rather they prioritize that list if it means making a better core game.
Yes it can, but I have no idea what kind of work it takes to get it there.
Yes, I know. You quoted a sentence fragment and took it out of context. To clarify, "While the Wii can't handle NBA Jam in 60 fps online, 360/PS3 can and does so very easily." I'd be inclined to join you guys on this if not for the fact that they put the effort in and it just didn't work out. We know why it got cut. People are quick to point the finger squarely at EA, but Nintendo built the console and the online infrastructure. Could EA Canada have done more? Possibly and I'd prefer they delay the game if it meant they could definitely get it to work, the operative word here being "definitely." Online multiplayer getting the ax is a victim of circumstances. Nintendo can't go back and add more RAM or faster processors and EA Canada has to work with what's available.
I'm currently undecided on which version to buy. $50 is pretty steep though that price is bound to drop and I was banking on online multiplayer since I doubt I can convince anyone I know to play NBA Jam (basketball is definitely the least popular sport in my area). I do prefer owning physical media for games too. Conundrum....
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Post by: SixthAngel on September 08, 2010, 04:05:43 AM
I'm sorry but, to me, this is obviously not some studio "staying true to NBA jam." They will say whatever they can to put a good spin on them not having online in the game. 60fps is the biggest cop-out ever and a bullet point nowhere near as important as online.
It seems far more likely that they can't due to budget or contraints from up above. Their bosses came in and essentailly screwed every single one of the developers by sending the game as a freebie to the other consoles. They obviously don't give a **** about the Wii version so it probably has a budget that barely allows the non-online to be finished.
If I was developing NBA Jam I wouldnt' give a **** either. Their resumes just got changed to "Revived the classic franchise NBAJam!" to "Created free give-away game to be sold with a bigger, more important NBA game."
The truth about games now is that the companies throw in online modes just to have something on the box as another selling point. If EA cared about the game doing well they would have put in online. All they have to do is say the word since they already showed their power by moving the game to a new console.
The Wii version has been sunk from above and I don't think anyone really has the desire to spend any more time or money on an obviously doomed project.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2010, 04:13:34 AM
Oct. 2011 - NBA Jam Tournament Edition Wii 4 player online co-op and EA hosted tournaments with exclusive DLC prizes.
(p.s. It's the same game you just bought only with the online mode we gave away for free in the PS360 versions)
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 08, 2010, 12:19:30 PM
Is there a reason they can't just have 60 fps in the offline mode and then it's only 30 online? Tons of N64 games for example had better framerates in single player than in four player splitscreen. The whole thing sounds like a lame excuse. Though if Nintendo didn't completely gimp their hardware this wouldn't be a problem either. Third parties cut corners and are lazy but Sony and MS gives them the freedom to do so and Nintendo doesn't. Nintendo's "we tell you how things should be" method works in hypothetical fantasy lands but not in the real world. Third parties have excuses but Nintendo gives them ample reason to have those excuses so they share the blame.
They're still sticking to a $50 price. It's going to cost that much... and no one is going to buy it. If I get I'm going to get it used so that I don't reward EA no matter what version I get. They don't deserve a new NBA Elite sale for this bullshit.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 08, 2010, 12:34:47 PM
Mario Kart Wii does 30 FPS online.
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Post by: broodwars on September 08, 2010, 01:37:42 PM
I know you guys are looking for even more reasons to own the Wii version of NBA JAM, but 1up just got a look (http://www.1up.com/news/nba-jam-eastern-conference-rosters) at the Eastern Conference rosters and noted that (along with certainly legendary characters like Jordan and Reggie Miller not being in the game due to contractual reasons. :'( ) it looks like any player who was traded from their 2010 team after around July 1st or so (like Al Harrington, who was traded from the Knicks to the Nuggets) will not be on their new team in the Wii version of the game. This will be fixed for the PS3 and 360 version due to the ability to patch that version, but apparently "cannot" be fixed on the Wii version due to the need to lock down the rosters. Uhh...I could be wrong, but factoring in 2 months to get the game through Nintendo Certification and manufacture the discs, they still had at least a month to make those roster changes so why not fix the Wii version before it even goes into certification or delay it to fix the issue? :confused;
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Post by: SixthAngel on September 08, 2010, 03:02:52 PM
Uhh...I could be wrong, but factoring in 2 months to get the game through Nintendo Certification and manufacture the discs, they still had at least a month to make those roster changes so why not fix the Wii version before it even goes into certification or delay it to fix the issue? :confused;
They don't care about it. The guys up top obviously don't and they have screwed the Wii version so badly that the guys down bottom won't want to put in any extra effort. Inevitable roster changes should be something that they prepared for from the very start but they just didn't.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
The Wii version of Madden has (or at least had last time I bought it) roster updates. Not only is an update possible, but EA themselves have done it in the past.
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Post by: broodwars on September 08, 2010, 03:10:55 PM
The Wii version of Madden has (or at least had last time I bought it) roster updates. Not only is an update possible, but EA themselves have done it in the past.
In all fairness to EA, changing a roster in Madden means swapping out a nametag on the back of a jersey and some stats because for the most part you can't tell who the players are supposed to be in those outfits. In NBA JAM, you have some model/sprite and animation changes that have to be put into effect because the players are clearly identifiable. It's a lot more time-consuming, though I still think they could have done it. I wonder if one of the players traded was on their respective JAM team, so they would have had to create a new character model for a replacement character to fill in the missing slot,
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 08, 2010, 03:51:38 PM
Well here is the roster for the Eastern Conference.I am going to spoiler the legends and Mascots of the teams.Normal rosters will not be spoilered.
Atlanta Hawks:Joe Johnson,Josh Smith,Mike Bibby. Dominique Wilkins and Spud Webb
Boston Celtics:Kevin Garnett,Paul Pierce,Ray Allen,Rajon Rondo. Larry Bird and Kevin Mchale.
New Jersey Nets:Devin Harris,Brook Lopez and Courtney Lee. Kenny Anderson and Drazen Petrovic
New York Knicks:Al Harrinton,Danilo Gallinari,Amari Stodamire. Patrick Ewing,Larry Johnson,John Starks
Orlando Magic:Dwight Howard,Vince Carter,Rashard Lewis. Nick Anderson and Scott Skiles
Philidelphia 76's:Andre Igluodala,Elton Brand, and Even Turner. Julius Erving and Allen Iverson Toronto Raptors:Demar DeRozen,Jarret Jack, and Andrea Bargnina. The Raptor
Washington Wizards:Yi Jianlian,Andray Blatche,Gilbert Arenas,John Wall. Manute Bol and the mascot G-Wiz
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Post by: Adrock on September 08, 2010, 06:15:08 PM
I'm sorry but, to me, this is obviously not some studio "staying true to NBA jam." They will say whatever they can to put a good spin on them not having online in the game. 60fps is the biggest cop-out ever and a bullet point nowhere near as important as online.
Then, why would Trey Smith go out of his way to say they were trying? If he said something EA top brass didn't want him to say, you can bet their PR assault squad would descend upon larger gaming media outlets immediately and retract them. Nothing of the sort happened here. We've seen 3rd parties give Nintendo the cold shoulder for years and there has never been any real attempt at putting a good spin on it. Why start now?
60 fps vs 30 fps is NOT a bullet point. If it didn't matter, then ALL versions of the game would run at 30 fps and they'd call it a day. However, all indications suggest that the 360/PS3 version runs at 60 fps offline and online. If it doesn't, you have a valid point and I'll be right there with you cursing EA. The feature was cut not not planned. Smith went on record to say it was something they wanted in the game and were working on. It just didn't work out. I have no qualms calling shenanigans; I just don't see it here. If there were no plans for online multiplayer on the Wii, I have no doubt EA, of all companies, would have bluntly said so and not even given any reason for it. Having to announce the cut so late is hardly an ideal scenario. All of these theories that EA is sabotaging the game is ridiculous. EA, like every company, wants our money. Online multiplayer is a major selling point and without it, some won't buy.
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The Wii version has been sunk from above and I don't think anyone really has the desire to spend any more time or money on an obviously doomed project.
This is just faulty thinking and there's nothing to support this at all. Why even have a Wii version at all then? More importantly, why have it be the lead platform? The Wii version could have easily been canned if EA didn't give a damn about it.
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Post by: Shaymin on September 08, 2010, 07:28:50 PM
Hey some people consider hidden characters spoilers.
I'll be sure to remember that the next time I see the Jazz Bear or Magic Stuff on TV. EA puts team mascots in their games all the time, often not as secret characters. Eh, whatever.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 09, 2010, 12:33:39 AM
Gosh the point being is that not all of the NBA teams in NBA Jam have mascots as hidden characters. In addition to that in the original games they had mascots as secret characters. So putting in mascots in this game is a way to pay homage to the original games which I might add EA didn't have any part of.
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Post by: SixthAngel on September 09, 2010, 02:58:53 AM
This is just faulty thinking and there's nothing to support this at all. Why even have a Wii version at all then? More importantly, why have it be the lead platform? The Wii version could have easily been canned if EA didn't give a damn about it.
There is a Wii version because that what it was planned to be from the beginning. There is no way it was planned to be a free give-away game at the start but that was most likely decided far into the games development(although I imagine some people always had a port in their mind). By the time this decision was made the Wii version was probably too far to can, actually had some hype for it, and it is the only version that has a chance of making some of the money back.
The situation reaks of upper management cannibalizing one game to make their "new" franchise successful. NBA Elite is replacing Live this year and they really want to get a new yearly cash cow and set up Elite to be the big new bball game. Finding another game that is currently under development, that isn't important to the big guys at the company, doing a quick port and packing it in is their way to try to make Elite a run away success and give them a new Madden to milk. EA cares about yearly franchises and will sacrifice a game like Jam and take the loss if they think it can help a yearly game.
Reading Larry Bird in Maxi's list tempts me, but I just don't have friends who would want to play this game at my house.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on September 09, 2010, 07:10:50 PM
Simply put, the lack of online play is disappointing. I was hyped for this game. EA made it sound like it was going to have everything and the kitchen sink.
It's just hard to believe that they couldn't find some online multiplayer solution for the $50 version of the game. Either way, I'll now probably wait for a price drop before I pick this up.
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Post by: broodwars on September 15, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
The Western Conference rosters have now been announced (http://www.1up.com/news/nba-jam-western-conference-rosters-revealed), and I'm extremely underwhelmed. There's a distinct lack of mascots this time, and even though my team (take a guess) has the Legends you would expect, the main roster is just weird. We don't have Boozer, and we don't have Al Jefferson (two trades that happened very close to one another). We don't have Paul Millsap as Deron Williams' partner, but we do have Kirilenko and Okur (who is currently out with injuries).
Yeah, I'll probably be going for the free version with Elite. The rosters will at least be closer to being right.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 15, 2010, 04:41:17 PM
Can you post the list Broodwars. The page isn't loading properly for me.
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Post by: broodwars on September 15, 2010, 04:44:13 PM
Sounds like there's a distinct lack of Western teams that don't have legendary players.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 15, 2010, 07:31:42 PM
Big Country is a legend? As much as a bummer it is to lose a sports franchise the fact that the Grizzlies are so pathetic and irrelevant makes it all better. Losing the Sonics? That blows because the Sonics had historical relevance and left just before they became good again. No one wants a situation like the Quebec Nordiques or the Cleveland Browns where the team leaves and then immediately proceeds to win titles in the new location. But Vancouver has never really missed the Grizzlies because what is there to miss? Oh no, Memphis got to see Pau Gasol giftwrapped for the Lakers instead of us!
Though back when the Grizzlies first were founded there was Big Country stuff everywhere. He was the face of the franchise and was hyped to all hell. I distinctly remember lifesize cardboard cutouts so people could compare their height to his.
Do you know what does suck? After a typical expansion team first season the Grizz picked third in the 1996 draft where they could have drafted STEVE NASH. Not only a future hall-of-famer but also a Canadian from BRITISH COLUMBIA! Nash is huge here. We get Phoenix Suns coverage like it's the local team entirely because of him. He is the face of basketball in Vancouver. You wonder how things would have been if they picked him. He was the absolute perfect choice to be the face of the franchise. But hindsight is 20/20 and all that.
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Post by: broodwars on September 27, 2010, 06:55:33 PM
Well, EA's delayed (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/112/1123764p1.html)NBA Elite 11 into next year and removed the free version of JAM from it, so now we'll be able to get JAM on the HD consoles for a price via their respective download services or on the Wii in October.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 27, 2010, 07:03:24 PM
When I first saw that Elite was being pushed back I thought it might be good news for the Wii version of NBA Jam, but if they're switching it from a bonus to something people can buy independently on XBLA and PSN that makes things even worse for the Wii version.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 27, 2010, 07:10:47 PM
Wait it says in the article that Broodwars linked to that they don't know if it will be a PSN and XBLA game or a retail game.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 27, 2010, 07:14:16 PM
response to NBA Elite 11 was so bad that they delayed it huh?
and NBA Jam HD to be released "in time for the holidays"....
I guess that is sorta good news for the Wii version since that will be the only way to play the game next month and probably most of next month too. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if NBA Jam HD was a full featured disc release before Xmas now that they aren't giving it away for free as a bonus.
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Post by: nickmitch on September 27, 2010, 07:49:39 PM
I don't think they'll put the HD version on a disc unless they add features from the Wii version. If it's download size, then the disc is just added costs.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on September 27, 2010, 07:55:02 PM
Wow, what mismanagement.
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Post by: broodwars on September 27, 2010, 08:02:10 PM
One thing's for sure: if I'm supposed to pay for the HD version of JAM rather than just getting a glorified demo with NBA Elite, I fully expect to get all the content now. That's all the features from the Wii version + online content. They can reprice the Wii version accordingly.
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Post by: Adrock on September 27, 2010, 08:25:59 PM
PS3 version here I come. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow comes out next week. NBA Jam was getting bumped for that reason alone anyway. I just don't have time to devote to more than one game at a time. It might even have gotten bumped past Epic Mickey and Donkey Kong Country Returns. I expect December will likely be when I purchase NBA Jam and it'll probably be out for PS3 by then. Everything is coming up Milhouse.
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Post by: Sarail on September 27, 2010, 11:12:25 PM
Yep. I'm sold on the PS3 version now. If it's gonna be a standalone game, AND I'm going to have to pay for it, you can be pretty sure that the extra content is going to get added in and sold as a retail game.
EA's not dumb enough to put a weaker version of the game out on the HD consoles in comparison to the Wii effort. That's business. I expect the HD version to be sold for $49.99, while the Wii gets its Jam on for $39.99.
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Post by: Nemo on September 28, 2010, 05:45:30 PM
I pre-ordered NBA Jam for Wii today. (Had a $20 credit at amazon.com, so it was only $29.95 for me.)
I don't have a 360 or a PS3, so this is literally my only option. I loved NBA Jam T.E. for Super Nintendo back in the day and I'm happy that they're even making the game for Wii. It looks like it'll be a fun game, even if the rosters can't be updated and there's no online. I'm glad that I even have the option of getting it. I wish I had that option for Resident Evil 5... and many other games.
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Post by: Adrock on September 28, 2010, 06:00:36 PM
I pre-ordered NBA Jam for Wii today... I don't have a 360 or a PS3, so this is literally my only option.
It's not like we could play against each other online anyway. Lulz.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 28, 2010, 06:35:49 PM
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I'm glad that I even have the option of getting it. I wish I had that option for Resident Evil 5... and many other games.
That's kind of sad. Originally this was going to be a Wii exclusive and now the bright side of the situation is that at least Wii owners have the option of getting it. There's just this melancholy defeatism in the whole thing. Being treated like dirt by third parties is expected.
If they expand this to a retail release for the PS3 why would I bother getting the Wii version? We went from having the only version to potentially having the WORST version. I'm still interested but I don't want to give EA my business either way. If I buy the Wii version I'm supporting half-baked Wii versions with missing features. If I buy the PS3 version I'm giving EA the impression that the Wii is not worth supporting. If you wanted to rig the situation to provide "evidence" to not support the Wii this is what you would do. The whole thing just looks like a rigged game.
Buy it used. **** 'em.
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Post by: Adrock on September 28, 2010, 06:45:11 PM
As a Wii owner, it's a bummer. As a gamer, I still win because I own a PS3 as well. It's hard for me to be upset about this. I was planning on getting the Wii version despite the lack of online multiplayer since I like owning physical media (I'm making ONE exception next week for Shantae: Risky's Revenge on DSiWare; I've slowly become a big Wayforward fan), but if the PS3 version is just the Wii version with HD and online multiplayer, consumerism ultimately wins out. I'm a fan of value.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 28, 2010, 07:41:41 PM
I'm glad that I even have the option of getting it. I wish I had that option for Resident Evil 5... and many other games.
That's kind of sad. Originally this was going to be a Wii exclusive and now the bright side of the situation is that at least Wii owners have the option of getting it. There's just this melancholy defeatism in the whole thing. Being treated like dirt by third parties is expected.
If they expand this to a retail release for the PS3 why would I bother getting the Wii version? We went from having the only version to potentially having the WORST version. I'm still interested but I don't want to give EA my business either way. If I buy the Wii version I'm supporting half-baked Wii versions with missing features. If I buy the PS3 version I'm giving EA the impression that the Wii is not worth supporting. If you wanted to rig the situation to provide "evidence" to not support the Wii this is what you would do. The whole thing just looks like a rigged game.
Buy it used. **** 'em.
The PS3 and 360 versions will be missing big features, the only thing the Wii version might be missing is online (which isn't a big deal). Besides, EA will probably try and put in that idiotic Online Pass system.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 28, 2010, 08:07:26 PM
If EA is releasing this as a stand alone HD retail product, I'm sure they will put in all the missing features that were once Wii exclusive before.
Online pass or no Online pass, the HD version will likely be the best, but late version of the game.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 28, 2010, 08:13:47 PM
I think until we get some real info about the 360 and PS3 anything else is idle speculation.
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Post by: UncleBob on September 28, 2010, 10:23:48 PM
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Pachter doesn't think the separate availability of NBA Jam on other consoles will seriously harm its overall sales - though it could do damage to the Wii-only figures for those keeping score there. "We expected Jam to do only 500,000 units on the Wii, and the impact from release on other platforms will impact only those households who have multiple consoles, and then only to the extent that they weren't going to buy NBA Elite for PS3 or 360, but intended to buy Jam on the Wii." Pachter told Kotaku, "In short, maybe 100,000 units on the Wii, but more than offset by sales on the other consoles."
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 29, 2010, 09:27:04 AM
Does anyone care what Pachter says anymore? He is almost never right.
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Post by: vudu on September 29, 2010, 02:36:33 PM
I don't think they'll put the HD version on a disc unless they add features from the Wii version. If it's download size, then the disc is just added costs.
Report - Only 6% of Gamers Download Content (http://wii.ign.com/articles/112/1124024p1.html)
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According to a new report by market research firm NPD Group, only six percent of total gamers in the U.S. have downloaded content through home gaming consoles.
How's that for a reason to put the game on a disc?
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Post by: broodwars on September 29, 2010, 02:43:40 PM
I don't think they'll put the HD version on a disc unless they add features from the Wii version. If it's download size, then the disc is just added costs.
Report - Only 6% of Gamers Download Content (http://wii.ign.com/articles/112/1124024p1.html)
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According to a new report by market research firm NPD Group, only six percent of total gamers in the U.S. have downloaded content through home gaming consoles.
How's that for a reason to put the game on a disc?
Personally, I find that survey a little suspect. Where did they survey? What was their survey size and their age range? What consoles did those surveyed own? Does "downloaded content" cover both DLC and digitally-distributed games or just DLC?
I'm sure the numbers are low, but I find it unlikely that we would keep seeing all these digitally-distributed games and DLC if those purchasing them really were that low. I'd also point out that you can make statistics say whatever you want to say, and it's in NPD's best interests to skew a survey against digitally-distributed content because they don't keep sales numbers for digital content. No one would purchase NPD's services if games were drifting towards digital distribution.
As for JAM, PS3 and 360 owners are far more likely to purchase a game digitally than Wii owners and there's no brick & mortar to go through, so I don't see how this "study" would prove that it's not worthwhile to go-digitally only for those versions.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 29, 2010, 02:47:34 PM
Yeah, but that number includes people who only own a Wii. Several DLC content packs have sold more than 1 million on Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 For example, both Battlefield 1943 and Trials HD sold over 1 million on Xbox Live Arcade.Let's say EA Sports did the same with NBA Jam and charged $20, that is $20 million. Assuming Microsoft and Sony take 30%, that is still $14 million for EA. Somehow I doubt it cost EA that much to port the game, I bet even 100K copies would make a profit for them.
Maybe they will sell more at retail, but it is more than possible to make a lot of money through digital sales.
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Post by: vudu on September 29, 2010, 02:50:24 PM
No doubt that it's a little suspect. Later in the article is the following quote:
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"Today's gamer might be a hard-core teen-ager playing games online with his friends, a 40-something female playing Farmville on Facebook, or everything on either side of that spectrum," said NPD analyst Anita Frazier.
A 40-something female playing Farmville on Facebook is considered a gamer but there's a pretty good chance she doesn't own a gaming console.
I just posted the link because it shows that the download market isn't as large as the retail market. Even if you triple or quadruple the 6% figure, it's still a small fraction of the market you'd be able to sell to if the game were on a disc.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
I think the decision to release it as a download or a retail release depends on EA's goals here. Cancelling NBA Elite is going to affect their bottom line. Maybe the plan is to just salvage something by putting the originally planned NBA Jam download as a standalone download title. Putting it on a disc involves extra costs and they would have to put those Wii features in the game. If the plan is to turn this into a multiplatform retail title then that's the ideal way to go. But if they're just trying to turn lemons into lemonade then just getting the download title out there without spending any more money makes sense.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 29, 2010, 04:12:37 PM
Just wait for Mario Sports Mix? It might be better than Jam. Though its not NBA Jam...
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
Eh, part of NBA Jam's appeal was the style. The crazy dunks, the announcer yelling "FROM DOWNTOWN", the ball going on fire, wacky secret characters like the President - this was all part of the package. It isn't just the gameplay. Mario Sports Mix will not have the style of NBA Jam so it wouldn't be the same.
When I was 12 NBA Jam was super cool. Nothing seemed goofy or ironic about it at all. Everything about it was awesome. As much as I love Mario, Mario has NEVER been cool.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 29, 2010, 04:32:07 PM
As much as I love Mario, Mario has NEVER been cool.
When I was a kid, Mario was universally accepted as the coolest character in video games.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 29, 2010, 06:46:34 PM
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When I was a kid, Mario was universally accepted as the coolest character in video games.
When I was a kid Mario was popular in that his games were considered really good but he wasn't cool. Sonic was cool. Ryu was cool. The Doom guy was cool. Scorpion was cool. Donkey Kong was cool because of the pre-rendered graphics. :D Mega Man and Samus had freakin' GUN ARMS which along with being a ninja was a universal sign of coolness back in 1990. That and being a cyborg.
I think one can be popular and well liked but still not be cool if that makes sense.
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Post by: broodwars on September 29, 2010, 06:49:51 PM
When I was a kid, Mario was universally accepted as the coolest character in video games.
When I was a kid Mario was popular in that his games were considered really good but he wasn't cool. Sonic was cool. Ryu was cool. The Doom guy was cool. Scorpion was cool. Donkey Kong was cool because of the pre-rendered graphics. :D Mega Man and Samus had freakin' GUN ARMS which along with being a ninja was a universal sign of coolness back in 1990. That and being a cyborg.
In other words, everything that 90s Kid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=054aUUx9ut4&feature=related) adores. ;)
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Post by: Nemo on September 29, 2010, 11:09:51 PM
That's kind of sad. Originally this was going to be a Wii exclusive and now the bright side of the situation is that at least Wii owners have the option of getting it. There's just this melancholy defeatism in the whole thing. Being treated like dirt by third parties is expected.
I totally agree with what you're saying.
Even if the situation were reversed, if a PS3/360 version was announced first with online and HD, followed by the Wii version lacking features... even in that situation, it'd still be an improvement over the "normal" treatment. What do I mean by "normal" treatment? I mean getting side games that are crap, like Soul Calibur Legends (instead of Soul Calibur 3) or more often than not, simply not getting a popular series at all.
So, I'm glad to be getting a premier game from a quality series for Wii, one that's not a side-game or dumbed down to be family-friendly or anything like that.
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Post by: nickmitch on September 30, 2010, 12:34:31 AM
No doubt that it's a little suspect. Later in the article is the following quote:
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"Today's gamer might be a hard-core teen-ager playing games online with his friends, a 40-something female playing Farmville on Facebook, or everything on either side of that spectrum," said NPD analyst Anita Frazier.
A 40-something female playing Farmville on Facebook is considered a gamer but there's a pretty good chance she doesn't own a gaming console.
I just posted the link because it shows that the download market isn't as large as the retail market. Even if you triple or quadruple the 6% figure, it's still a small fraction of the market you'd be able to sell to if the game were on a disc.
I dunno. Nintendo has said time and again that a large portion of Wiis are online, and I couldn't imagine that less than 50% of console owning gamers have never downloaded a game. Furthermore, I doubt it cuts the market for the HD consoles because the game appeals more towards the crowd who would be in online forums talking about the game (like us) and more likely than not have their console(s) online and have downloaded a game.
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Post by: Mop it up on September 30, 2010, 01:44:33 AM
Mario Sports Mix has a Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection logo on the box. If it turns out the game has online play, will that turn anyone away from this game to it?
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Post by: SixthAngel on September 30, 2010, 02:51:55 AM
I'm glad to see Jam isn't getting pushed into the wood chipper anymore.
That's kind of sad. Originally this was going to be a Wii exclusive and now the bright side of the situation is that at least Wii owners have the option of getting it. There's just this melancholy defeatism in the whole thing. Being treated like dirt by third parties is expected.
They should have just announced it as a multiplat from the beginning. I don't care that its not exclusive but I don't like it when they pretend something is so awesome for the Wii and then slowly announce other versions with extra features or sometimes even a better price. Just stop the act and release it for all the consoles right away. Wii only owners like myself will pick it up if I like it, just don't tell me its something special when its obviously not.
How messed up must EA be right now? They announce a game for Wii with huge hype, they then say its a free downloadable title and then they change their minds a few weeks later and make it retail. If this game didn't have the Jam license it would be dead in the water. There aren't many reboots(much less new games) that people would still have faith in after this stuff happened. They even apparently canceled Elite. There has to be a lot of fighting, blaming and scapegoating in that company right now.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 30, 2010, 03:14:43 AM
Mario Sports Mix has a Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection logo on the box. If it turns out the game has online play, will that turn anyone away from this game to it?
I would get both. They are different enough.
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Post by: broodwars on September 30, 2010, 03:42:22 AM
They even apparently canceled Elite. There has to be a lot of fighting, blaming and scapegoating in that company right now.
As far as I can tell searching the internet, they haven't officially canceled Elite yet, though at this point I have to wonder what the benefit of releasing Elite will be if the delay's more than a month. They've essentially handed the 2010-2011 basketball gamer market over to Take-Two with this delay.
As for retail vs. download for the HD JAM, meh...whatever. The price really isn't an issue either way, so whatever happens...happens. I just want all the content from the Wii version on the HD version if this is going to be a paid release now. If anything, I'd hope for EA to add more content to the HD JAM to try and garner sales to make up for the loss of Elite.
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Post by: UncleBob on September 30, 2010, 08:35:51 AM
From Kotaku:
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Asked for a crystal ball projection, Pachter thinks it will be a disc release.
"A $50 Wii game will likely not command a $60 price point on PS3 or 360 if it's a port," Pachter told Kotaku. "Because they intend to sell the game for $50 on the Wii, they can't really cut price below $50 on the PS3 or 360. And if they offer it as a download, it will be tough to command a $50 price point, even if the file is small enough to download."
"My educated opinion is $50 on all platforms, disc only, with a download offered whenever NBA Elite ships," he concluded.
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Post by: broodwars on September 30, 2010, 09:19:41 AM
Asked for a crystal ball projection, Pachter thinks it will be a disc release.
"A $50 Wii game will likely not command a $60 price point on PS3 or 360 if it's a port," Pachter told Kotaku. "Because they intend to sell the game for $50 on the Wii, they can't really cut price below $50 on the PS3 or 360. And if they offer it as a download, it will be tough to command a $50 price point, even if the file is small enough to download."
"My educated opinion is $50 on all platforms, disc only, with a download offered whenever NBA Elite ships," he concluded.
You don't say... :cool;
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 30, 2010, 09:38:12 AM
It's Michael Pachter, that is reason enough to ignore it. The guy is rarely ever right, but people still seem to care about his predictions.
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Post by: nickmitch on September 30, 2010, 10:34:47 PM
EA would still have to add the modes from the Wii version to justfy such similar pricing. Unless they think the online mode is a fair trade-off.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 03, 2010, 01:54:57 AM
The HD version is the superior version CONFIRMED (most likely for $60 though)
I'll tell you, we're doing everything in our power to get as much on there as possible. I mean, we had online up. It was a really basic online feature set. We're trying to blow that out. And then you get Remix. We're trying to throw it all in there. Right now, I mean, we got this bomb dropped on us just a couple of days ago as well. So, we're shuffling to get everything together, but we got a great team. We got a lot of stuff up and working. We're going to polish it up, and we're gonna get it out there before holidays. And its really up to you. If you want to hang out with your friends and use gesture controls, you got it on the Wii. If you want to go online and you want that HD experience, you go on the PS3/360.
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Post by: nickmitch on October 03, 2010, 02:02:00 AM
Well ain't that a kick in the pants.
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Post by: Sarail on October 03, 2010, 10:33:05 AM
There ya go. PS3 version it is for me. I don't care about waggle for Jam, and I'd rather the game look as sharp as can possibly be on my LCD tv.
Way to eff over Wii owners EA. Way to go, indeed.
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Post by: Mop it up on October 03, 2010, 03:13:45 PM
EA have done a pretty poor job of handling this game. How have they become such a large company?
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 03, 2010, 04:40:47 PM
Just gonna wait for my 360 & PS3 friends to buy it, this is fail.
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Post by: broodwars on October 03, 2010, 04:43:04 PM
Suffice to say, from what EA has announced, we have trophies/achievements; online play; HD visuals; and updated rosters. That's pretty significant to me.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on October 03, 2010, 04:49:36 PM
You say there are many problems with the Wii version, but the only problem we know of is that it won't have online play. If you think there are others, I would like to hear them.
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Post by: broodwars on October 03, 2010, 04:54:26 PM
You say there are many problems with the Wii version, but the only problem we know of is that it won't have online play. If you think there are others, I would like to hear them.
The lack of online play and the out-of-date rosters are pretty significant problems with the Wii version, IMO. Also, while not an issue that can be helped, the visuals are in SD and won't look very good on my TV (a problem most Wii games have on my setup). I'm also curious what kind of longevity this game will have with just the classic and Remix modes. JAM wasn't exactly the most in-depth game to begin with.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 03, 2010, 05:35:14 PM
I'm hoping for a 3DS version with online. That will be the definitive version. Jam on the go FTW. Too bad that won't be a possibility until sometime next year.
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Post by: Adrock on October 03, 2010, 06:31:07 PM
You say there are many problems with the Wii version, but the only problem we know of is that it won't have online play. If you think there are others, I would like to hear them.
We have a 55" Samsung LED TV. I'm getting the HD version. Period.
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Post by: Mop it up on October 03, 2010, 09:46:29 PM
Just wait for the 2011 edition, we all know there's going to be one.
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Post by: nickmitch on October 03, 2010, 11:53:40 PM
Why bother? I can get it for my 360 now and just update the roster next summer.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 05, 2010, 10:20:45 AM
Well I figure that most people don't really care much about the Wii version coming out today but I thought I would mention that there was some hidden characters leaked so I'm going to post them.
Beastie Boys, President Obama,Joe Biden,Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al Gore. George W Bush,Sarah Palin,John McCain,Dick Cheney
I'm just going to say that Black N Mild will be happy with one of the choices.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 05, 2010, 12:07:46 PM
With 1 choice!?
I was hoping for 8 of those 10.
I've already decided to buy this, but now maybe I'll get it closer to day 1.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 05, 2010, 12:17:21 PM
Oh well I thought I only saw you mention you wanting one of those.
In anycase I have been reading on some forums that the game was released last night and many people have picked it up today as well.So check around.
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Post by: broodwars on October 05, 2010, 12:20:03 PM
Oh well I thought I only saw you mention you wanting one of those.
In anycase I have been reading on some forums that the game was released last night and many people have picked it up today as well.So check around.
I've seen a few people around work with a copy of the Wii version, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was in stores today.
And btw, if for whatever reason people are still interested in the Wii version, 1up just gave it (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3181718) an A-.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on October 05, 2010, 03:07:23 PM
I'm still interested in the Wii version, primarily due to the fact that I own neither a 360 or PS3.
I dropped by the local Future Shop in my area this morning, but it turns out not a single one of their stores received any copies of the game, and they are a pretty big retailer.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 05, 2010, 03:37:41 PM
Well I just thought I would mention that if you want to pick up Jam the best place would be is a Kmart since they give out a $15 coupon towards a future purchase.Have to pick up Jam before the 9th though as that is when the offer will be over. Might want to call ahead to your local Kmart to make sure it is offering it though.
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Post by: Nemo on October 06, 2010, 02:02:57 PM
I got two e-mails from amazon today. One said the game has shipped and should arrive on Saturday. Good to know. The other e-mail was a surprise, informing me that I get a $10 credit that can be applied to my next video game order. NOT TOO SHABBY, guys.
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Post by: UncleBob on October 11, 2010, 12:12:49 AM
Guy bought NBA Elite '10 for PS3 from some dude on eBay. Came with everything except the case.
EVERYTHING. Including the NBA Jam download code.
Which worked.
Which, apparently, also includes an ad for downloading "the Remix pack, coming to you soon."
There was never any plans to offer Wii owners anything special.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 11, 2010, 12:28:51 AM
I believe I posted about that in NBA Jam HD topic back when the Wii version came out.
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Post by: gojira on October 11, 2010, 10:17:01 AM
Eh, not like Remix Tour is all that great anyway. I've been renting the game and I've pretty just played it all weekend. Classic mode is just like the NBA Jam I remember from my youth. But Remix Tour is basically a playground for the game's cheap AI.
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Post by: Nemo on October 17, 2010, 10:14:44 PM
So, I got NBA Jam. I played a few games by myself and a bunch more with a friend. I really enjoyed it. Then, I nearly cut off the tip of my thumb at work and got 4 stitches... so I can't play too many video games for a while. (I can still play Dragon Quest 9... with a stylus and I could do a few motion games, I'm sure.) Nevertheless, this was bad timing, not like there's a good time to slice your thumb.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 18, 2010, 02:37:18 AM
Sorry to hear about you thumb Nemo.
From what you played what did you think of it?
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Post by: Nemo on October 19, 2010, 06:39:08 PM
I enjoyed it. I really liked the old simple formula and it's still here [the last version I'd played was Tounement Edition for SNES]. They've added a few things, like being able to spin or do a cross-over while on offense; I didn't quite figure out the best way to utilize these, but I assume they are to dodge the defender's swiping arms or shoves. Also, you can do allez-oop dunks, which is pretty sweet. My friend and I were laughing a lot at what the announcer had to say, and at the over-the-top dunks. There's also a menu somewhere that tells you how to unlock all (or most of?) the retro NBA characters such as Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. It didn't list any other hidden characters, like (I don't know how to black out spoilers... but, politicians and actors, etc.) so I'm not sure how that works out, but I liked having that list. The unlocks are things like "make 10 blocks in one game" or "beat all 30 NBA teams with a team from the Eastern Conference".
Negative things: I played with the classic controller... clearly, the developer assumed few people would want to play with the classic controller and didn't put much effort into making it feel like the right choice. The controls are NOT customizable, which would have been nice. (For some reason, the L trigger does turbo and the R trigger does... nothing?) The classic controller controls work fine once you know what does what, but here's what really makes me mad: Menu controls. When you select a team/teammates, it says "PRESS A TO SELECT" or something like that. Except, A on the classic controller cancels and B on the classic controller selects. Once again, not a problem once you know... but shouldn't they have realized that's VERY non-intuitive. Also, the loading screens will say things like "Press C to [perform function]" and the classic controller has no C button. Not a very helpful tip...
There's a tutorial mode that teaches how to play with a nunchuck/wiimote (which unlocks something, perhaps Big Head Mode). Once my thumb heals up more, I'm going to try it out and see how the "motion controls" work. Despite my complaints, I'm betting that classic controls will remain the best option.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on October 21, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
So NBA Jam for the PS3 and 360 will be sold on a retail disc and be shipping on Nov. 17th. It will cost $49.99.
Apparently, a "free, downloadable update will be released for both versions in December that adds additional modes and features, including Backboard Smash, Domination Free-for-All, Elimination, 21, Online Progression, and Jam Party." - IGN
There is also this lovely little quote from Trey Smith: "We have listened to our NBA JAM fans and appreciate their desire to play this game online, so we are going to deliver the online feature set they expect and deserve".
That leaves me wondering which NBA JAM fans they are listening to? The ones who bought the offline Wii version, which should have had online features?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 21, 2010, 04:38:30 PM
There is also this lovely little quote from Trey Smith: "We have listened to our NBA JAM fans and appreciate their desire to play this game online, so we are going to deliver the online feature set they expect and deserve".
That leaves me wondering which NBA JAM fans they are listening to? The ones who were expecting a FULL FEATURED Wii Exclusive, or the PS360 fans that originally weren't expecting anything, than were kinda upset for having to buy NBA Elite 11 to get the download code, but now get the FULL FEATURED HD release including online play for the same price as Wii owners?
fixed.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on October 27, 2010, 10:07:56 AM
So basically now there isn't any thing the Wii version has that the others won't? At least before Wii owners could point to these exclusive modes. If the game bombs (at least the Wii version), I will blame EA Sports for it. The game was originally a Wii-exclusive until they forced EA Canada to suddenly make Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions.
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Post by: Adrock on October 27, 2010, 05:51:06 PM
I've always defended Trey Smith's team at EA Canada when it came to NBA Jam. They were just super passionate about the project itself and less concerned over what console it was on and the development team is at the mercy of EA. While undeniably crummy (feel free to use a stronger word here), it makes sense to release a PS3/360 version even at the expense of the Wii. I'm not saying it was right or fair; however, it does make sense from a business perspective. Using Jam as a trojan horse for Elite was shortsighted at best. The game was a buggy mess. Sure, they would probably sell tons on Jam alone, but a bad game is a bad game and you can bet those who actually popped the Elite disc in to play the game would think twice and three times before even thinking about getting Elite '12. Releasing NBA Jam offsets the loss of Elite/Live. EA sure does look mighty evil right now, more so than usual.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 27, 2010, 06:36:09 PM
I can't help but think that since NBA Jam was a retro revival and they didn't want to spend too much on it, they made it a Wii Exclusive. Gave it a decent budget and a team that wanted to do it, set it on cruise control and just let them drive.
Once they checked back in and seen that the game was actually good, there was a lot of buzz around it and the HD fanboys were trying to figure out the best way to get their hands on it, they decided to pull resources to get an HD version up and running ASAP. Of course those resources were pulled during the beginning of the online portion of the Wii game which left the Wii team with no networking expertise as the entire dev staff was now tripping over themselves to get the HD version ready in time for the PS360 release.
I have no idea if that's how things went down, but it just feels like that may be what happened here, or something really similar to that.
I mean it did go from a HD downloadable bare basics title to a full featured online HD retail release in a matter of months.It's quite obvious that the Wii version had to of suffered at the benefit of the speedy HD version.
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Post by: Peachylala on October 29, 2010, 04:10:27 PM
And with that, EA has gone bottom barrel when it comes to it's popularity with Nintendo fans.
Though I would lawl if Mario Sports Mix outsold this game.
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Post by: Adrock on October 29, 2010, 05:12:22 PM
Though I would lawl if Mario Sports Mix outsold this game.
That's silly. If there was no PS3/360 version and the Wii version had online multiplayer like we all wanted, Mario Sports Mix would still outsell NBA Jam. It's a casual sports game with Mario characters on the Wii. That's the gaming industry equivalent to finding a leprechaun's pot of gold with your best friend's hot sister double fisting beer sitting on top and your best friend not caring that you're oogling his sister and will probably bang her later... on the pot of gold which is also yours.
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Post by: Mop it up on October 29, 2010, 05:34:46 PM
Mario Sports Mix also has the luxury of being published by Nintendo, and Nintendo is a name consumers trust to deliver quality games.
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Post by: Nemo on October 29, 2010, 09:46:57 PM
And with that, EA has gone bottom barrel when it comes to it's popularity with Nintendo fans.
I didn't think highly of them before all this "controversy" started. In fact, I've never really thought highly of them, ever. (I'm still enjoying the game, though.)
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Post by: Peachylala on October 30, 2010, 01:52:45 AM
Me neither, but I'm looking at a more broader range. Hell, never had interest in NBA JAM to begin with, but this sorta **** EA is pulling is kind of hilarious... in a "WHY DOESN'T THIS SURPRISE ME?" sort of way.
And people wonder why third party games don't sell on Wii. HMM...
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Post by: Ian Sane on November 01, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
Yeah, I never really thought much of EA to begin with. This whole thing has felt like some sort of intentional satire of Wii third party support. If someone made up such a fictional story last year we would all felt that it was too over-the-top to be believable.
Yet what is funny (or depressing, depending on my mood) is that it never seemed unbelievable as it happened. It's like I am so conditioned to third parties treating the Wii like crap that I almost expected it in a weird way. It started off so promising so it HAD to **** up somehow, right? I've had a real defeatist attitude towards the Wii for a while now anyway. There's got to be a catch. It has to all fall apart somehow, right? So when it started to derail it wasn't surprising. And then we all started getting pessimistic and coming up with (perhaps jokingly) predictions of where it would go and they all came true! The only thing missing here was the Wii version being outright cancelled or being turned into some spin-off. That would have been the cherry on top. We still got a more-or-less functional version of NBA Jam that is just missing online play. But maybe that's worse? Like we know it COULD have been fine.
If one were to ever make the argument that the Wii is cursed this would be a good example.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 01, 2010, 05:53:36 PM
Its exactly the same as what Capcom did to the Gamecube with RE4 by announcing it for the PS2 when it was supposed to have been a GC exclusive.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on November 03, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
Capcom got a lot of flack because they announced that like 2 weeks before the GCN release. They could at least have waited until a few weeks after the GCN version released before announcing the PS2 port.
For those interested, EA Sports officially canceled NBA Elite 11 and said that EA Tiburon will be taking over the franchise (after the shake-up at EA Canada): http://www.industrygamers.com/news/nba-elite-11-is-doa/
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Post by: Mop it up on November 03, 2010, 06:09:29 PM
It's the best thing to do for NBA Elite 11 really. That isn't the type of game they can delay since it needs to be out for the sports season, and considering how bad the game sounds, it needs a lot of work. They're doing what they should with it, take the loss and work on making NBA Elite 12 a worthwhile game... or at least a playable game.
Title: Re: NBA JAM - BOOOOOOM-SHAKA-LAKA - He's... stopped, dropped and rolled!!!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2010, 07:07:25 PM
I just got my copy of NBA Jam in the mail today (Amazon B2G1) I played 1 game to get used to the controls (nunchuck mode was awkward, went for wiimote style instead) then played 1 campaign game so far using the Lakers.
2 Words..... BOOM SHAKALAKA
I whooped ass. It's a damn shame this game has no online.
edit: 2 games later I can say one thing about this that differs from the last games in the series. The shove. Shoves are not affecting people in this game. if someone was about to shoot and you shoved them, then that would interrupt that shot. or if they were about to receive a pass and you shove them way before the ball gets to them, they would fall, and miss the pass. That is not happening here. They will just pretend you never shoved them and take the pass or continue on with their shot. it's a little frustrating especially when the computer can somehow push you while we are both in mid-air.
Title: Re: NBA JAM - BOOOOOOM-SHAKA-LAKA - He's... stopped, dropped and rolled!!!!!
Post by: Adrock on December 12, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
I went to Best Buy to purchase Super Mario All-Stars with a $25 gift card.... and ended up getting NBA Jam for PS3 as well since it was on sale. And so much for saving money....
I'll just talk about it here since it's the same game and there's no point in creating a new Jam topic in the General Gaming forum.
It's a bit slower than I remember Jam being. Dunks are harder to pull off because blocked shots went up 4000%. Shoving got nerfed. You actually have to play defense in this game. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it's certainly different. Being on fire seems to only give unlimited Turbo because I was still missing shots. That's a fail. I need to put more time into the game. I'm not great with timing though Easy is very forgiving as expected.
I don't like that there's no button configuration. I would have wanted to make R1/R2 Turbo as well. Also, I remember in single player mode controlling whoever had the ball. I don't think you can switch players in the new Jam. Ehh... don't like that either. I haven't played online yet but consider how much I suck, I'll stay offline for the time being.
