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Title: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on December 16, 2009, 07:30:17 AM
New sales figures show that Nintendo's flagship console and game are both selling incredibly well.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20566

 New sales figures reported by Famitsu show that Wii has sold over nine million units in Japan.      


The site, whose data comes from Enterbrain, says that the total number of Wii consoles sold between launch and December 13 is 9,048,012.  For comparison, the closest competitor is the Playstation 3 with 4,020,563 units sold.      


The report also contains sales figures for New Super Mario Bros. Wii, which has sold 1,401,558 copies through the 13th.  As its first week sales were over 900,000, this means that the game sold over half a million copies in its second week on the shelf.

Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2009, 03:43:26 PM
I remember taking bets a while back in the sales thread.

Who was gonna cross the next million mark first, PS3 or Wii.
Looks like they both did it at the same time.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Caterkiller on December 16, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
9 Million already, very good Nintendo. The better Nintendo does, the more enraged the industry becomes... I like it!
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: ThomasO on December 16, 2009, 04:13:15 PM
I think NSMBWii sales for both Japan and North America total to 3.4 million. Any word on how it's doing in Europe and Australasia?
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2009, 04:14:58 PM
Time for a new bet.

Nintendo has a pretty piss poor Q1 coming up in Japan and
Sony has a pretty decent one.

Who will reach the next million first?
Will Nintendo reach 10mill before Sony reaches 5 mill?

Step right up and place your bets people.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 16, 2009, 04:16:21 PM
Mario was holding strong in Aussieland, then it flopped as Wii Sports Resort took its throne.  Additionally, Wii Cricket is outselling Call of What: Modern WHAT 2 there.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on December 16, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Caterkiller on December 16, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
9 Million already, very good Nintendo. The better Nintendo does, the more enraged the industry becomes... I like it!

I still don't understand this schadenfreude that some Nintendo fans have for the rest of the industry. 
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: broodwars on December 16, 2009, 04:20:19 PM
Gee, the Wii and the latest Mario game are selling well.  In related news, reliable sources in the scientific community have confirmed that the Earth is indeed round.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2009, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: ThomasO on December 16, 2009, 04:13:15 PM
I think NSMBWii sales for both Japan and North America total to 3.4 million. Any word on how it's doing in Europe and Australasia?

No actual #'s but this will give you an idea of how it's selling
Salesbot - Euro/Aus Sales (Week 50, 2009) (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=18481.msg571846#msg571846)
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Ian Sane on December 16, 2009, 04:44:20 PM
New Super Mario Bros. Wii is a fantastic game and well deserving of its sales.  How's Moden Warfare 2 doing?  Reggie made a bet that NSMB Wii could beat it.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 16, 2009, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: broodwars on December 16, 2009, 04:20:19 PM
Gee, the Wii and the latest Mario game are selling well.  In related news, reliable sources in the scientific community have confirmed that the Earth is indeed round.

The thing is, the Wii was doing terribly in Japan, with sales dropping each week while the PS3 kept going up and up. In an earlier story Iwata said that this was a bad situation and that Nintendo needed very strong holiday sales in order to regain sales in Japan.

So the fact that the Wii and NSMB Wii are doing extremely well in Japan is indeed good news for them and thus worth mentioning it.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Ian Sane on December 16, 2009, 06:00:03 PM
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The thing is, the Wii was doing terribly in Japan, with sales dropping each week while the PS3 kept going up and up. In an earlier story Iwata said that this was a bad situation and that Nintendo needed very strong holiday sales in order to regain sales in Japan.

So the fact that the Wii and NSMB Wii are doing extremely well in Japan is indeed good news for them and thus worth mentioning it.

Funny how things turn around for them after releasing a good game.  I hope Nintendo noticed that.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2009, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: Ian Sane on December 16, 2009, 06:00:03 PM
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The thing is, the Wii was doing terribly in Japan, with sales dropping each week while the PS3 kept going up and up. In an earlier story Iwata said that this was a bad situation and that Nintendo needed very strong holiday sales in order to regain sales in Japan.

So the fact that the Wii and NSMB Wii are doing extremely well in Japan is indeed good news for them and thus worth mentioning it.

Funny how things turn around for them after releasing a good game.  I hope Nintendo noticed that.

Purely coincidental. There is nothing to be learned from this.
Sales go up in December, always has, always will.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 16, 2009, 09:32:57 PM
Quote from: NWR_DrewMG on December 16, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Caterkiller on December 16, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
9 Million already, very good Nintendo. The better Nintendo does, the more enraged the industry becomes... I like it!

I still don't understand this schadenfreude that some Nintendo fans have for the rest of the industry. 

It is because the rest of the industry are posers who are encroaching on Nintendo's rightful turf.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: D_Average on December 16, 2009, 10:36:14 PM
Quote from: NWR_DrewMG on December 16, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Caterkiller on December 16, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
9 Million already, very good Nintendo. The better Nintendo does, the more enraged the industry becomes... I like it!

I still don't understand this schadenfreude that some Nintendo fans have for the rest of the industry. 

Simple.  As Reggie has said, "you shall have no other gods before me." 
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Kairon on December 17, 2009, 12:42:54 AM
Quote from: NWR_DrewMG on December 16, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Caterkiller on December 16, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
9 Million already, very good Nintendo. The better Nintendo does, the more enraged the industry becomes... I like it!

I still don't understand this schadenfreude that some Nintendo fans have for the rest of the industry. 

*whiny*Hey! The industry started it! They're the ones who said that Nintendo would go outta business in the first place!*whiny*

Quote from: Ian Sane on December 16, 2009, 04:44:20 PM
New Super Mario Bros. Wii is a fantastic game and well deserving of its sales.  How's Moden Warfare 2 doing?  Reggie made a bet that NSMB Wii could beat it.

Actually, that bet only applied to NPD numbers through january 2010, hence these Japan numbers don't factor into it. I have no doubt that NSMBWii will perform spectacularly, but I don't expect NSMBWii to perform THAT good THAT quickly.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Mop it up on December 17, 2009, 12:48:51 AM
Not to take away from the impressive numbers posted by New Super Mario Brothers, but does anyone else feel a bit saddened that in one week the game matched the lifetime sales of Super Mario Galaxy?
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2009, 12:57:22 AM
It's ok. SMG2 only has about ~60k to go to reach the Million sellers club, and Giftmas and the eventual release of SMG2 might help it make it there.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Kairon on December 17, 2009, 01:12:54 AM
Quote from: Mop_it_up on December 17, 2009, 12:48:51 AM
Not to take away from the impressive numbers posted by New Super Mario Brothers, but does anyone else feel a bit saddened that in one week the game matched the lifetime sales of Super Mario Galaxy?

Sorta, but I guess it just goes to show that 2D gameplay will never go out of fashion. And honestly, I'm not surprised that there are more people who are willing to jump into NSMBWii than SMG. Mario's forays into 3D have been astounding landmarks in gaming ever since the N64, but that progress also seems to have left a lot of people behind, a lot of people Nintendo realized deserved better than being left behind in this generation of gaming.

Also, NSMBWii is multiplayer Co-op. IN A TRADITIONAL MARIO GAME!!! That alone makes for omg-play-it-now awesomeness.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Mop it up on December 17, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
I'm not surprised the game is more popular either, but selling in one week what its 3D companion has sold in two years is just mind-boggling. Of course, I'm not saying the game shouldn't be selling so well; it's a great game and I love it. I'm saying the opposite: I'd have liked to see Super Mario Galaxy sell better! I guess when looking at the worldwide sales then it has achieved a good number, but I'm just worried that this doesn't bode well for future 3D Mario games. Yes, I know that Super Mario Galaxy 2 is just around the corner, but that game was announced before NSMBWii was released and Nintendo knew that 2D Mario can still sell on a home system. So I hope to see a continuation of both types, if Nintendo can handle it.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Stratos on December 17, 2009, 04:52:44 AM
The question is not if, but will they even bother handling it?

We probably won't see another NSMB title until the next system if it goes evergreen.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2009, 05:30:13 AM
We're still waiting on NSMB2 for the DS, it not coming anytime soon.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: KDR_11k on December 17, 2009, 05:35:31 AM
Quote from: NWR_DrewMG on December 16, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Caterkiller on December 16, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
9 Million already, very good Nintendo. The better Nintendo does, the more enraged the industry becomes... I like it!

I still don't understand this schadenfreude that some Nintendo fans have for the rest of the industry.  
I'll sum it up in three points: DLC, 70€, browngray.

Quote from: broodwars on December 16, 2009, 04:20:19 PM
Gee, the Wii and the latest Mario game are selling well.  In related news, reliable sources in the scientific community have confirmed that the Earth is indeed round.
Many people believed that NSMBW wouldn't sell well because it's a 2D game on a home console and the conventional wisdom is that home consoles need 3D. Additionally NSMBW sold significantly better than Galaxy.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2009, 05:41:42 AM
Quote from: KDR_11k on December 17, 2009, 05:35:31 AM
Quote from: NWR_DrewMG on December 16, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Caterkiller on December 16, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
9 Million already, very good Nintendo. The better Nintendo does, the more enraged the industry becomes... I like it!

I still don't understand this schadenfreude that some Nintendo fans have for the rest of the industry. 

I'll sum it up in three points: DLC, 70€, browngray.

you forgot one, Nintendoomed/3rd party
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on December 17, 2009, 08:17:08 AM
"They are selling a product I am not interested in buying, so I root for their failure."
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: KDR_11k on December 17, 2009, 10:06:13 AM
Quote from: NWR_DrewMG on December 17, 2009, 08:17:08 AM
"They are selling a product I am not interested in buying, so I root for their failure."

"They are trying to steer gaming into a direction I do not agree with (that of genre monoculture, higher prices and tons of hidden costs) and the longer they live the more will follow their direction."
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on December 17, 2009, 10:32:04 AM
As long as Nintendo doesn't follow suit, then why do you care?  Once again, you're not their customer. 

Also, if you think a gaming industry where all of Nintendo's competition has gone out of business is a good thing, well then clearly we're far far far apart.  We don't need one company who is resistant to change as the only one putting out product.   Video games serve a wide variety of consumers.  I'm perfectly happy with simply not buying that which doesn't interest me.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: KDR_11k on December 17, 2009, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: NWR_DrewMG on December 17, 2009, 10:32:04 AM
As long as Nintendo doesn't follow suit, then why do you care?

Because newly created companies will follow the lead they see. If all they see is higher prices, more exploitation and genre monoculture they will perpetuate it, if they see diverse, creative titles that are actually made to be games instead of "cinematic experiences" and don't try to nickel and dime you to death then that's what they will do. There will never be a Nintendo monopoly, dying third parties will make room for new third parties that follow the new philosophy.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on December 17, 2009, 11:23:29 AM
Your statement implies that video games cannot be designed to be games and also be satisfying cinematic experiences.  Likewise, you suggest that the industry is better off without that type of experience.  Personally, I don't want a gaming industry that follows your lead, and I know I'm not alone.  You take away my Ico, my Shadow of the Colossus and you replace them with Pokemon and I'm out.

Do you think Nintendo is not trying to nickel-and-dime you?  Maybe they're not trying to do that via DLC, but the Wii is certainly priced higher than it needs to be considering what is actually inside the box.  Is removing a GBA slot and adding two incredibly low quality cameras really worth an extra $40 on the DS price-tag?  If you compare downloadable game prices on Wii vs. Xbox and PS3, the Wii pricing is far less consumer friendly. 

Nintendo has no interest in saving you money unless it makes them money.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on December 17, 2009, 11:27:47 AM
Once again, I'm not suggesting that you should buy games that don't appeal to you, but this whole "rooting against the evil of the industry" is really silly.  I'm not interested in Wii Music, but I'm not rooting against Nintendo.  If they can sell a jillion copies of a game I don't care about, well good for them!  It gives them more money to make games that I might like afterall. 

At the end of the day though, they're a company, just like Microsoft and Sony.  They look out for THEIR interests first.  Nintendo is not some non-profit organization dedicated to improving video games.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 17, 2009, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: KDR_11k on December 17, 2009, 05:35:31 AM
Many people believed that NSMBW wouldn't sell well because it's a 2D game on a home console and the conventional wisdom is that home consoles need 3D.

I don't think console games need to be 2D, but if the game is 2D then perhaps it could just as easily have been done on the DS. But from Nintendo's perspective putting it on the Wii makes sense because 1) the DS already has NSMB and 2) the Wii needs more games, and especially A+ games such as this.

So I don't think it needed to be on the Wii, but it is better that it is for the sake of the Wii's sales and its future.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Peachylala on December 17, 2009, 12:46:41 PM
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So I don't think it needed to be on the Wii, but it is better that it is for the sake of the Wii's sales and its future.
NSMBW has given me an excuse to play console games nowadays when I'm busy with other stuff.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Ian Sane on December 17, 2009, 03:12:23 PM
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Not to take away from the impressive numbers posted by New Super Mario Brothers, but does anyone else feel a bit saddened that in one week the game matched the lifetime sales of Super Mario Galaxy?

While Galaxy is undoubtably the more creative and innovative title I'm happy NSMB Wii outsold it.  For years we've been told that 2D belongs on portables.  I hate that.  I hate how today's consoles are capable of beautiful 2D games and yet we're stuck playing on a tiny screen with sound coming out of tiny speakers.  The whole thing never made any sense.  2D is not out-dated, it's just different.  2D and 3D should be able to co-exist.  So this is a victory for those that want 2D to be treated equally with 3D.  NSMB may not be as innovative as SMG but it may end up being more influencial.  If it starts a trend of 2D games being common again on consoles then gaming as a whole will benefit.
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 17, 2009, 04:25:09 PM
So far, Nintendo benefits.

WHERE IS MAH CASSLEBANIA: REBURF?
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: King of Twitch on December 17, 2009, 08:35:08 PM
Nintendo clearly went all-out for Galaxy but NSMBW deserves to sell better? That's dimensional bias.

What is happening to this gen?
Title: Re: Wii, Mario Pass Sales Milestones in Japan
Post by: Peachylala on December 17, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Galaxy is great, but in terms of game design, NSMBWii shows why 2-D Mario gaming set the standard for great Mario gameplay. Some of Galaxy's challenges you could easily sleepwalk through. NSMBWii requires an ability to adapt to the challenges in each stage and skill.

NSMBWii will not only beat Galaxy in terms of sales, but in great game design. Hows that for a 2-D Mario game?