Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Kairon on December 12, 2009, 06:57:18 PM
Title: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Kairon on December 12, 2009, 06:57:18 PM
My Mom's taken to stealing my younger bro's DS every night so she can play Sudoku on both our Brain Age games. She's actually been doing this for months now, but now she tells me that she's already completed the Sudoku puzzles in Brain Age 1 and she's almost exhausted Brain Age 2. We were shopping and she asked me point black when I'd buy her a new Sudoku game!
So... Does anyone here have any suggestions? Has anyone here played quality Sudoku DS titles? Alternatively I could see if she warms up to our copy of Professor Layton. I could always offer Neves or NYTimes Crosswords as holdovers, or I could take a chance on a Picross game... or just give her a new Sudoku title like she asked for!
Can anyone make recommendations?
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Stratos on December 12, 2009, 07:45:43 PM
There was one on DSiWare I heard was pretty good, and Nintendo did publish a retail Sudoku game but I heard it paled in comparison to the Brain Age Sudoku.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2009, 02:43:28 AM
Definitely give her Layton and the Phoenix Wright games.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Kairon on December 13, 2009, 04:05:27 AM
Definitely give her Layton and the Phoenix Wright games.
Sure, I'll give those a shot. But I'm looking for a single dedicated Sudoku DS game as a fallback.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Mop it up on December 13, 2009, 03:28:57 PM
I have heard nothing but good things about Picross DS, so maybe try that?
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: vudu on December 13, 2009, 05:00:39 PM
There are several Sudoku games on DSiWare. I own them all. :)
Unfortunately, none are as good as the ones in Brain Age 1 & 2. The interface isn't as nice and they all seem to have their own little quirks--one doesn't let you use the stylus, one only has room for 4 temp/note numbers and one doesn't even support temp/note numbers! Even the nice gimmicks--for example, one will highlight all the cells with the same number making it easy to spot what you're missing--don't really feel any better than the Brain Age games.
I don't have any experience with retail Sudoku games, but I'd be willing to bet they're all very similar to the DSiWare ones--they all pale in comparison to Brain Age. (How sad is that?)
Honestly, I'd recommend your mom just got back and play Brain Age 1 again. Unless she's able to memorize the puzzles she should be able to replay the games just fine.
Also, like everyone else said, Picross DS and Crosswords DS are fine choices if your mom is looking to branch out from Sudoku. I've sunk close to 200 hours into Picross and I still haven't finished all the downloadable puzzles. The interface is fantastic. This game is an unbelievable value at $20. The core game play is a lot like Sudoku--logic-based, tile puzzles.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: that Baby guy on December 13, 2009, 09:03:37 PM
My mom plays the one Nintendo published, but it doesn't have as good of a number reader than the one in Brain Age. If she likes putting in the numbers digitally, touching the number on the screen, rather than writing it, then it'll be great.
I don't know about any other ones, though.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: UncleBob on December 14, 2009, 12:56:48 AM
I'm going to put another vote down for Nintendo's CrossworDS. I suck at Crossword puzzles and I found it enjoyable.
For Sudoku fallbacks, I, again, am going to agree with the previous posters - there really hasn't been anything released yet that's quite up-to-par with the interface included with the two Brain Age games. It's beyond me why Nintendo hasn't released their own Sudoku game (beyond the Hudson-developed, Nintendo-published Gridmaster, which is *okay*....)
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Stratos on December 14, 2009, 05:47:04 PM
It's beyond me why Nintendo hasn't released their own Sudoku game (beyond the Hudson-developed, Nintendo-published Gridmaster, which is *okay*....)
Because it guarantees sales of Brain Age 3 by all of the Sudoku lovers who know every other Sudoku game is crap.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Kairon on December 17, 2009, 01:25:30 AM
Hmm... thanks for the feedback guys. I'll definitely see if I can trick my Mom into going to Layton or Phoenix Wright, and I had a Crosswords game as a fallback, but this also sounds like a good excuse for me to pick up Picross, which I've wanted for quite a while now.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: noname2200 on December 19, 2009, 01:13:35 PM
Thanks for making the topic: I actually just encountered the same problem, but for my dad. I wound up getting some game that has Sodoku, crosswords, and other newspaper games. "Puzzler Collection." Can anyone tell me if I f***ed up now, before I give it to him for Christmas? Thanks!
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Stratos on December 19, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
Thanks for making the topic: I actually just encountered the same problem, but for my dad. I wound up getting some game that has Sodoku, crosswords, and other newspaper games. "Puzzler Collection." Can anyone tell me if I f***ed up now, before I give it to him for Christmas? Thanks!
IGN gave it a 7.3
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There are plenty of crossword and Sudoku games already available forthe DS, but Puzzler Collection is another respectable offering. It'sgot a clean interface, thousands of puzzles, and the touch screencontrols have been implemented well (for the most part). The lack ofwireless multiplayer is disappointing, but there is enough content hereto keep you occupied for a while. This is a no-frills, perfectlycompetent casual game.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Kairon on December 19, 2009, 04:41:14 PM
Hey noname, that IGN review makes it sound like sortof the thing that could be suitable for my Mom too!
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Stratos on December 19, 2009, 07:19:15 PM
I might get it for my sister since she loves the sudoku in Grain Age as well. We might have a winner.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Halbred on December 20, 2009, 06:18:11 PM
I loved CrossworDS.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: noname2200 on December 26, 2009, 12:44:56 AM
Thanks for making the topic: I actually just encountered the same problem, but for my dad. I wound up getting some game that has Sodoku, crosswords, and other newspaper games. "Puzzler Collection." Can anyone tell me if I f***ed up now, before I give it to him for Christmas? Thanks!
IGN gave it a 7.3
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There are plenty of crossword and Sudoku games already available forthe DS, but Puzzler Collection is another respectable offering. It'sgot a clean interface, thousands of puzzles, and the touch screencontrols have been implemented well (for the most part). The lack ofwireless multiplayer is disappointing, but there is enough content hereto keep you occupied for a while. This is a no-frills, perfectlycompetent casual game.
Just writing to (belatedly) thank you for the response: it set my mind at ease, and it looks like the game's paid off. Thanks, and hope you enjoyed your Christmas!
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: noname2200 on December 29, 2009, 12:23:32 AM
A quick update: he's really, really, REALLY taken to the game. I'm pleased: this is the first real videogame he's ever tried, and the results are quite encouraging.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Stratos on December 29, 2009, 05:52:57 AM
Thanks for the update there. I think I may get this as well for sure now that I hear others are enjoying it. My family really loves those puzzle games.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: bosshogx on December 30, 2009, 12:29:23 PM
I've been looking at the DSiWare Sudoku games and don't know which one to download. Based on what Vudu wrote, it looks like I should skip on them all but I really want to carry less game carts with me when I'm out.
So Vudu, if you had to recommend one, which one would it be, even if it's the best of the worst.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Kairon on December 31, 2009, 01:02:26 AM
Actually, while shopping I took a left turn and instead picked up Ultimate Puzzle Games: Sudoku for the DS. I don't think it uses hand-writing recognition and it seems to have the DS held non-book style, but on the other hand it has garnered solid reviews, has a random puzzle generator, lets you input custom puzzles number by number from external sources (so I'm told), has an automatic puzzle solver, and a bunch of other features (like multiplayer? Wut?).
We just got it in the mail today, I'll let you guys know what my Mom thinks.
I also ordered Picross DS, but haven't received that yet.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 31, 2009, 03:30:10 AM
I've been looking at the DSiWare Sudoku games and don't know which one to download. Based on what Vudu wrote, it looks like I should skip on them all but I really want to carry less game carts with me when I'm out.
So Vudu, if you had to recommend one, which one would it be, even if it's the best of the worst.
I'm not vudu, but I have the Brain Age DSi Sudoku game and I love it, I'd definitely recommend it.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: bosshogx on December 31, 2009, 10:08:23 AM
I've been looking at the DSiWare Sudoku games and don't know which one to download. Based on what Vudu wrote, it looks like I should skip on them all but I really want to carry less game carts with me when I'm out.
So Vudu, if you had to recommend one, which one would it be, even if it's the best of the worst.
I'm not vudu, but I have the Brain Age DSi Sudoku game and I love it, I'd definitely recommend it.
Oh really? I loved the Brain Age version of Sudoku so this will be perfect. Thanks!
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: vudu on December 31, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
What insanolord said--the Brain Age Sudoku for DSiWare is the best version. However, I haven't actually checked to see if they're the exact same puzzles as in the Brain Age cartridge. I wouldn't be surprised if they were.
Sudoku Master is pretty good, too. It's a clean interface. However, since you hold the DSi upright--instead of on its side--it's easiest to play using the control pad and buttons. The biggest problem with the game is that there's an awesome feature that highlights all of the matching numbers in a puzzle (for example if you highlight a 2 all of the 2s in the puzzle turn green). It makes it very simple to determine if there are any numbers you can fill easily fill in but it almost changes the way I play Sodoku a bit too much.
Sudoku Master is 500 points. There's also a 200 point version called Sodoku Student. I believe it's the first half of the Sodoku Master; if you only want to play the easy puzzles it's probably a good choice. I think they just released a new version called Sodoku Sensei (or something like that) but I don't know much about it because I've been on vacation for the past 10 days. I imagine it's an even harder version of Sudoku Master.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Stratos on January 15, 2010, 06:17:50 AM
What about 'Sudoku' on DSi? Has anyone tried that?
Review here says it's pretty good and has 'thousands' of puzzles to solve. You can even enter your own. The best part is it is only 200 points as opposed to 500 like the Brain Age Sudoku or Sudoku Student/Master/Sensei. I find it hard to spend $5 on only ~100 puzzles when I can get more in a cheap paper book at the store for less.
But it doesn't let you write in the numbers at all, sadly.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 15, 2010, 08:52:04 PM
It's sad that Brain Age has been out for nearly 5 years now, and still no one else has managed to approach the interface excellence of its Sudoku.
Title: Re: Advise me on a new Sudoku/Puzzle DS Game for my Mom?
Post by: Stratos on January 16, 2010, 04:15:17 AM
It's sad that Nintendo has failed to actually make a new Brain Age-engine Sudoku game in that time too. I don't count the DSiWare app because it's supposedly just a mixture of puzzles from the two retail games (that is also the one thing keeping me from D/Ling it right away).
