Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: ShyGuy on November 22, 2009, 04:21:50 AM
Title: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: ShyGuy on November 22, 2009, 04:21:50 AM
I didn't find a topic, so I am making one.
Great game. Fantastic Game. Sequel? Naw, it's an expansion pack. Still, the first game was fantastic and this game improves on it. New enemies that work well, new weapons, new items.
This group of survivors is good, if not better than the first. Ellis is the standout, his stories are awesome.
Anyone else play it yet?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 22, 2009, 04:30:16 AM
Found L4D a fun but vastly overrated game, so I'm passing on this expansion pack/sequel.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: ShyGuy on November 22, 2009, 05:42:31 AM
I've played them both in local coop so that adds to the enjoyment.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on November 22, 2009, 08:06:48 PM
The "sequel" definitely should have been a $30 expansion pack. Really though, so long as we eventually see the original campaigns remixed and ported over (officially or not), I won't mind too much.
Overall however, the game is definitely fun. It takes what made the first game great and bumps it up a notch. I do feel as if the environments and playable characters lost a lot of their charm however. It feels much more action-oriented than survival-oriented now.
I definitely wouldn't play the game with strangers. Unless you know three other people to join in on LAN or Steam, the game might not be as fun as it should be.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: GearBoxClock on November 22, 2009, 08:12:46 PM
The original plays like an unfinished product after playing L4D2. The matchmaking is of good quality, the improvements are awesome. I love the new campaigns as well. Great game.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: ShyGuy on November 23, 2009, 01:28:55 AM
The first game seemed to have more lulls in the gameplay, parts where you were just wandering around deserted areas. I think they added to the tension. I felt less tension in the sequel, but that just be I was better at the game and knew what to expect. The sequel feels more wacky and light hearted, really.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: D_Average on November 23, 2009, 01:31:08 AM
The game definately looks fun, but Christopher Grant said it was just too hard. So hard, it completely ruined the game. http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/20/review-left-4-dead-2/
Or.....maybe he just sucks at video games
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: ShyGuy on November 23, 2009, 01:34:02 AM
It didn't seem harder to me, but I've only played the first three campaigns.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on November 23, 2009, 11:52:13 AM
I think that it feels pretty on par with the difficulty of the first game. Of course, playing a FPS with a gamepad instead of a mouse and keyboard is always going to make it much harder. :P
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on November 23, 2009, 09:46:22 PM
I am going to play tomorrow. My friend just bought the 4-pack and gave me one. My steam name is kraken613.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Enner on November 24, 2009, 05:21:04 PM
I've been hearing great things about the game and the demo has me appreciating the new stuff Valve/Turtle Rock has added. However, $49.99 is a bit too much for me so I'll wait for a sale or discount. Shouldn't be too long since L4D got down in price pretty quick.
Lately, I've been thinking that it's not that L4D2 is an expansion pack but that L4D had such little content from the get go that it wasn't much of a game for its asking price.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on November 24, 2009, 11:10:57 PM
Lately, I've been thinking that it's not that L4D2 is an expansion pack but that L4D had such little content from the get go that it wasn't much of a game for its asking price.
The campaigns from the original game will be re-released as an expansion pack for the sequel! :P
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Enner on November 25, 2009, 02:17:30 AM
Lately, I've been thinking that it's not that L4D2 is an expansion pack but that L4D had such little content from the get go that it wasn't much of a game for its asking price.
The campaigns from the original game will be re-released as an expansion pack for the sequel! :P
Yay! Do I get the expansion pack for free if I already bought Left 4 Dead? :D
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on December 05, 2009, 11:05:07 AM
So anyone get the game?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 05, 2009, 04:14:17 PM
That game is reason for much grief here in Australia. The classification board didn't allow the game to due no R rating for video games. Valve made a very tame cut down version with most of the blood and gore removed.
The new AVP was also just knocked back, but this time the devs have said tough luck. No cut down version for you.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on December 05, 2009, 06:41:48 PM
That's retarted, the game is not that bad. Its FREAKING ZOMBIES NOT PEOPLE!
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on December 05, 2009, 06:47:58 PM
I wonder, does Steam actually differentiate between regions? I mean, what's stopping someone from simply buying a North American retail copy on Amazon and then activating it within the Steam client?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on December 05, 2009, 07:52:01 PM
Yes, Steam goes by region. If you try to install a different region it will give you an error.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 05, 2009, 09:20:07 PM
I wonder, does Steam actually differentiate between regions? I mean, what's stopping someone from simply buying a North American retail copy on Amazon and then activating it within the Steam client?
It can be done. I'm not sure how, but there are ways to make it work. It can also be gifted. I've never done it.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on December 05, 2009, 11:18:07 PM
Yes, Steam goes by region. If you try to install a different region it will give you an error.
I guess then that my question is: how does Steam decide what country you're in? Is it just by IP, or does it detect your country settings in Windows itself? Both of those things could be easily circumnavigated. Likewise, would it really stop you from installing a disc-based copy of the game if it's from, say, America?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BruceSmith on December 12, 2009, 05:01:42 AM
HI!! I have not played any Left 4 Dead game and planning to purchase on this Christmas. Any suggestion regarding the game or the patches available? I really appreciate your time and effort. Thanks
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on December 14, 2009, 09:20:12 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/news/3237/
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Dirk Temporo on December 22, 2009, 05:31:54 PM
Anybody who's got this on 360, you can add me as Shralla. My friend negotiated it for me for Christmas from another friend for just $10!
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on March 26, 2010, 02:27:48 AM
BUMP!
This game is harder than L4D. Where advanced in L4D2 is almost expert in the original. It's not that the zombies are any harder, but the level design has been kicked up a notch. There are a lot more rush events. Subtle additions like water or more in your face effects like smoke from fire and Hard Rain. One definitive thing that has been made harder is reduced ammo for shotguns and accuracy commands a much greater influence. Addition of melee weapons does make the game a little easier if you are skilled. Additional items is both a blessing and a curse as you have greater tactical flexibility as to how you deal with a problem at a greater opportunity cost.
Graphically, not much has change except that the dark feels darker because there are now bright places and it generates a feeling of foreboding that wasn't in the first since everything was dark. The zombies now gib in a detailed and spectacular fashion with parts going everywhere compared to the red mist of the first. It has a detailed damage system which makes the infamous Soldier of Fortune games looks like a cartoon. It is most definately a more violent game.
In the end, it's not really an expansion pack, but how the first game should have been. L4D does feel unfinished after playing L4D2. L4D was ruled by firepower, L4D2 places greater emphasis on teamwork.
If there are any PC players in AUS and NZ, I can be found under the name oohhboy on steam if you want for hit me up for a game.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on March 26, 2010, 04:29:19 AM
I have L4D1 on PC and L4D2 on 360. I'd like to get into them more but I have nobody to play with other than pubbies which is eye-clawingly awful
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on March 26, 2010, 07:29:26 AM
Yeah, I ran in to some bad pubbies today.They weren't the worse thing ever, but one of them was an achievement whore. While mildly annoying, they still played better than the bots.
It really helps if most of the players have voice. It was a big bonus playing yesterday with most of the group having voice. So far I haven't run into the Xbox style crowd playing on a PC, so I count that as a bonus.
I haven't dared to play it on expert without friends or the one up on that, realism mode. So I will just hold off on that until I can gather enough people to play that mode.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on March 26, 2010, 07:39:01 AM
Beating expert is all I need to do and I can carry my weight and then some. I can never get hooked up with like-minded players though, ever... it's pretty frustrating.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on April 27, 2010, 05:40:26 AM
The passing DLC campaign is short, but the amount of detail in some sections is pretty high. I was expecting a more intense campaign, like Parish, but it's a pretty soft level unless your playing verses with it's environment more suited for ambushes than any other level.
The Realism Mutation is absolutely brutal. It's more than possible to waste groups a bare 50 meters away from the last Safe room.
I have found enough like minded players to have some fairly regular games of high quality. Even then, random people who join tend to hold themselves up to a pretty high standard with the number of arses much lower than expected (achievement whores, 13yr sailors, arsebergers). I guess the extra investment in hardware draw a higher denominator crowd than the 360. Still has it's fair share of rage quitters.
Still wait on the Mac port, April is a bout to run out.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2010, 09:54:22 PM
OMG, I just fired up this game for the 1st time (never played L4D1) and I'm loving it already.
It runs silky smooth at 1080p with no screen tearing like some other games I was playing and the zombie animations have me crackin up every once in a while.
I can see this getting beat before I get back to Bioshock or HL2.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2010, 12:16:11 PM
How do you save your game? I got to the 3rd safe room in the single player and wanted to quit, but I couldn't figure out how to save the game. Now I have to start all over again.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on June 28, 2010, 12:28:29 PM
You don't get to save. If I remember right you can just select which chapter you want to start from.. The real question is why are you playing single player? I would be more than happy to get you up to speed over some multi.
I have accepted your request, I assume to live within sort of playable distances, so hit me up next time you see me on steam for some newbie friendly play. Some of the players can be real dicks if your not on the ball the moment you show up.
Just don't go verses until you have a couple of multi campaign runs through with some friendlies. It can be brutal.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on June 28, 2010, 01:13:40 PM
How do you save your game? I got to the 3rd safe room in the single player and wanted to quit, but I couldn't figure out how to save the game. Now I have to start all over again.
L4D in singleplayer SUCKS!
I didn't realize you were playing by yourself!
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2010, 01:56:51 PM
I just wanted to get a feel for the game.
The only other FPS games I've played on the computer over the last decade have been HL2, Portal, Bioshock & L4D2. Wanted to get the controls down and know what the items do before I burdened anyone by being the no0b in an online multi match.
I'm actually having fun playing by myself. I'll get into the multi soon enough though. SUPER wanted to get a match going on Wednesday, this is my practice time so that I atleast appear competent.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Dirk Temporo on June 28, 2010, 03:13:09 PM
1. Stick together 2. Move fast 3. Shoot zombies
That order, you'll win.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2010, 05:01:14 PM
I can't shut off the 3rd floor alarm with the help of the computer. They are crack shots every other time but that massive horde invasion.
Anyone wanna get down on some L4D2 at some point today? maybe for just an hour or 2?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on June 28, 2010, 05:12:58 PM
Yeah I will later tonight. I will shoot you a message on Steam later.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2010, 05:13:44 PM
sounds good.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on June 28, 2010, 06:24:11 PM
OMG, I just fired up this game for the 1st time (never played L4D1) and I'm loving it already.
You're in a for a treat. I like the general atmosphere of the first L4D personally, but enough extra were added and things tweaked to make the sequel unquestionably good. You may want to install the Add-On Support through Steam and download the conversions of the first game's campaigns. You can find them in both their original and modified formats. The modified formats add L4D2 goodies while not trying to stay 100% accurate. There are plenty of other good custom campaigns floating around as well for once you get bored with the few Valve-made ones. ;)
Link: http://nekoarcnetwork.com/l4donl4d2/
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 06, 2010, 02:28:44 PM
I just beat the final campaign, the Parish, and my stupid teammates kept robbing me of my "Kill a Tank with a Melee weapon" achievement.
I guess I made up for it by not going back to help them once I made it to the Helicopter, it was only fair with the amount of help they didn't provide me while crossing the bridge.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on July 06, 2010, 03:15:19 PM
I just beat the final campaign, the Parish, and my stupid teammates kept robbing me of my "Kill a Tank with a Melee weapon" achievement.
I guess I made up for it by not going back to help them once I made it to the Helicopter, it was only fair with the amount of help they didn't provide me while crossing the bridge.
You try that in single player? You will never get that acquirement in single player.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 06, 2010, 08:37:51 PM
I just beat the final campaign, the Parish, and my stupid teammates kept robbing me of my "Kill a Tank with a Melee weapon" achievement.
I guess I made up for it by not going back to help them once I made it to the Helicopter, it was only fair with the amount of help they didn't provide me while crossing the bridge.
You try that in single player? You will never get that acquirement in single player.
Then we shall have to multi sometime later tonite or tomorrow afternoon.
Because I'm tired of the Tank running past everyone else and not harming a single hair on their body but coming straight after me. I can only slash with a Katana or machete so many times between getting bitch slapped by a tank before they steal the kill using a bullet.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on July 06, 2010, 09:09:36 PM
I just beat the final campaign, the Parish, and my stupid teammates kept robbing me of my "Kill a Tank with a Melee weapon" achievement.
I guess I made up for it by not going back to help them once I made it to the Helicopter, it was only fair with the amount of help they didn't provide me while crossing the bridge.
You try that in single player? You will never get that acquirement in single player.
Then we shall have to multi sometime later tonite or tomorrow afternoon.
Because I'm tired of the Tank running past everyone else and not harming a single hair on their body but coming straight after me. I can only slash with a Katana or machete so many times between getting bitch slapped by a tank before they steal the kill using a bullet.
Yeah I got a few friends who might play with us. Just tell us what achievements you want to go after.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2010, 03:57:24 AM
I just kicked ass 2 games in a row.
Kraken won during my first game, but I admit that I had no idea what I was doing. The 2nd and 3rd game were off the hook though.so much teamwork and strategy and chaos and mayhem. Luv'n it 100%.
We gotta get a NWR group vs match going real soon.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on July 07, 2010, 08:25:26 AM
Kraken won during my first game, but I admit that I had no idea what I was doing. The 2nd and 3rd game were off the hook though.so much teamwork and strategy and chaos and mayhem. Luv'n it 100%.
We gotta get a NWR group vs match going real soon.
If you find people you like playing with you should add them. First game was friends of mine and friends of friends.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 12, 2010, 01:07:14 AM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2cncff5.jpg)
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: broodwars on July 13, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
I played the demo for this a couple weeks ago when I first got my 360. I had a decent amount of fun, though it's so multiplayer focused that I can't see myself ever buying it considering I prefer SP games.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 13, 2010, 08:17:15 PM
SP is fun too but it really shines in MP.
specifically versus, as that is the only multi I have done so far
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on July 14, 2010, 10:04:47 AM
Realism Versus is where we separate the men from the boys. ;)
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on July 14, 2010, 10:24:33 AM
It's more separate the headset wearers from the non-head set wears.
Although it takes a lot more effort to nail those SI since I can't turn around and nail them in the head with a single shot from a sniper rifle from the other side of the mall, while your team mate is pinned and getting pounded on by commons without those auras.
With a team of headset users or people who work well together with one or two mics, tightening up the group a little works wonders. The key is to make sure everyone can maintain visual contact at all times. It's also important in normal verses, but with the example above, it's a lot more forgiving if someone fall behind.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on July 14, 2010, 12:13:17 PM
The guys I play with and who Blacks played with are just guys who like to have fun playing. They are all good but they want to have a fun team with fun conversations. That is when I have the most fun in L4D.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 14, 2010, 03:36:31 PM
I don't know what happened to you last nite, but we kicked ass on our last game. Me, Gee, BJ (I think) & someone else almost had a perfect run.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on July 14, 2010, 08:15:50 PM
I had my game crash but as I went back on I had the GF call.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2010, 07:21:23 PM
Is anyone else having a problem with the game saying "Server is forcing consistency with file update/pak01_div.vtk" when trying to play online?
There are people on the Steam forums with the same problem, and I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix it.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on July 16, 2010, 07:47:24 PM
That would, to me, indicate an inconsistency in your files and the files that Steam/L4D are expecting to find. Have you installed any mods, sound packs, skins, etc? Have you played on any public servers that may have had mods installed? You may want to have Steam verify your files. It can take a little while, but it might just solve the issue. If not, I'd outright delete the file in question (pak01_div.vtk) and then verify your files.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2010, 08:53:12 PM
everyone tried that and it didn't work, but Steam Add-On support updated and everything is good again.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2010, 03:07:35 PM
Check out this teamwork
(http://i26.tinypic.com/10r69uv.jpg)
If the hunter had jumped on him at the end that would have been too perfect
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 31, 2010, 04:21:04 PM
Versus is like crack in this game
But here is some issues I've been having with this game lately.
1.) Boomer vomit not hitting the people I'm spitting on even though they are standing right next to me (but I get vomited on from 30 ft away) 2.) Boomer getting Boomed and not hitting the people standing right next to me (but I get get boomed from the next room) 3.) Charger charging straight through people, specifically when they are not facing you. 4.) People being able to melee the smoker tongue around their neck (even a second or 2 after getting pulled)but I never can, same goes for shooting the smoker in the face while getting pulled(facing the wrong direction and still getting a headshot).
Those are the main issues I'm having. Anyone else having similar issues or wanna add to the list? I would also like to know what kind of hacks you've seen happen so I know when someone is cheating.
I've had a team that always seemed to have health packs, pills & adrenaline and when it was our turn, all of our health packs, pills & adrenaline would disappear.
I've seen people that were down get up on their own with no one around them.
I've seen someone get smoked through a wall.
Boomers vomiting form really far away and getting poeple
I'm sure some of those are glitches, but I would really like to be able to identify a hack when I see one.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 03, 2010, 09:53:47 PM
So who on this bard plays this game still?
Anyone want to get a game going?
Campaign (Expert) Versus Survivor
I need atleast 3 other people.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on August 03, 2010, 10:51:23 PM
I am probably one of the most active. But I play because I have the group I play with.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Barrett on August 17, 2010, 07:03:47 AM
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Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2010, 02:31:41 AM
new campaigns incoming
Quote from: L4D forums
Valve is creating a new add-on campaign called The Sacrifice. The campaign is being released for both Left 4 Dead 1 and Left 4 Dead 2. Whether or not the actual maps will be identical or not is unknown at the moment.
The Sacrifice in Left 4 Dead 1 will feature the new campaign, but none of the features of Left 4 Dead 2. Melee weapons, new guns, new infected, etc. will NOT be added to the L4D1 version of the campaign. It's simply a new set of maps to play through.
The Left 4 Dead 2 version will still feature the same Left 4 Dead 1 survivors (Bill, Zoey, Francis, Louis), but will have all the features of Left 4 Dead 2 as well, including the new weapons and infected. It will basically be like a new set of maps for Left 4 Dead 2, as well as the L4D1 survivors being ported.
In both versions of The Sacrifice, players will be able to choose which of the four survivors sacrifices him/herself at the end of the campaign. The canon choice is ------, but players will be able to choose any of the four when they play through the campaign.
In addition, the No Mercy campaign is also being ported to Left 4 Dead 2. L4D2's No Mercy will have the original Left 4 Dead 1 survivors, as well as all the new weapons and new infected of L4D2.
Valve is also making a 150-page digital comic to be released with The Sacrifice giving background on the L4D1 survivor's lives before and during the infection, as well as the final canon sacrifice by __Bill before The Passing.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on August 21, 2010, 03:15:31 AM
Well, F me sideways. Good to see more attention being paid to this game. I wonder if this coincides with the Mac port I have been waiting for.
Ohh, you forgot to spoiler the last sentence.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on August 21, 2010, 10:32:26 AM
Well, F me sideways. Good to see more attention being paid to this game. I wonder if this coincides with the Mac port I have been waiting for.
Ohh, you forgot to spoiler the last sentence.
The Mac version is coming out the same day.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on August 21, 2010, 11:16:13 AM
All of the original L4D maps should have been ported Day 1. As fun as the he sequel is, it's a glorified expansion pack. Fans have already ported everything over... this is just lip service from Valve.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2010, 12:23:07 PM
I also saw it on Gametrailers TV (SpikeTV) and they mentioned it several times. and supposedly if you've played The Passing(L4D2 expansion), you would already know this outcome, but since I've never played the first game, I wasn't really aware of an actual story.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on August 21, 2010, 01:37:43 PM
I figure it was more for the folks who haven't played both. It's probably one of the few surprises left so better to be safe and spoiler it.
Where did you hear about the Mac port karken?
In any case, I hope it is a better port than TF2. TF2 is the only game ever to cause hard crashes in OSX. Portal runs flawlessly, so it isn't directly to do with the source engine. But I should be updating to 10.6...
Besides, TF2 is a soft game.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2010, 01:41:33 PM
they mention it in the video.
This releases alongside the Mac port & it's not the last campaign they are making.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on August 21, 2010, 01:50:56 PM
ohh, right... I didn't watch the video since the server was giving me grief.
Well, one less reason for me to reboot soon.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: DAaaMan64 on August 21, 2010, 04:22:05 PM
All of the original L4D maps should have been ported Day 1. As fun as the he sequel is, it's a glorified expansion pack. Fans have already ported everything over... this is just lip service from Valve.
Thats why I paid 7 dollars for the first one, and 10 for the second. The highest I've paid for a Valve game was TF2 for 20 bucks.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on August 21, 2010, 06:28:59 PM
I play the game frequently enough that I won't complain. I do think that it was only released as a stand-alone title because of the console versions though. It's the same reason we have weekly Mutations, chosen by the developers, instead of a more robust modding system. It'd be great if we had Mutators like Unreal Tournament does, that could be mixed at matched at will. Again though, this is probably due to console limitations holding back all versions. Maybe we'll see less of that as Steamworks is integrated into the PS3 version of Portal 2?
I hope that Valve's port of No Mercy is upgraded. The current fan made ports are pretty impressive, as they utilize the Hard Rain weather effects and such.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 29, 2010, 01:06:15 AM
Since I don't see Kraken online anymore, I'm gonna post this here in hopes that he see my new L4D2 spray.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/14m6wy8.jpg)
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on August 29, 2010, 02:31:31 AM
ROFL
Finally figured out why it's so bloody hard to get a game. Since I am in New Zealand, my country server wise is unlisted or not grouped. So when I use the terrible match maker, it only looks very locally and not over the ditch where the ping is only a 100 at most.
I also found the half ass server browser with f'ed up fonts and with the very first game come upon the formerly mythical asshat I hear so much about. Chat spam, voice spam, meme usage, TKing, the works. Thank the RNG I already have enough friends listed so I never really have to suffer wankers too much.
Seriously, Valve games are cheap as chips. Even if you don't buy their big pack, just wait for a sale and bam! you barely have to pay double digits for one of their games.
I wish that the servers pushed the map to you opposed to the current system now of having to go out and get the bloody map yourself. Or at least holding those developers choice maps on their steam server so it's painless.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on September 01, 2010, 10:44:15 PM
^^
Yeah I am not on anymore because I have school...
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 02, 2010, 03:13:37 AM
Dropping by to post that I got the all-expert-campaigns achievement. This is my smug face
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 02, 2010, 12:03:09 PM
I have yet to complete any campaign on Expert or really even try. It takes patience and I would have alot more of that with 3 other players that weren't computers.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on September 02, 2010, 04:22:31 PM
I have yet to complete any campaign on Expert or really even try. It takes patience and I would have alot more of that with 3 other players that weren't computers.
Play with 3 other real players then....
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 02, 2010, 04:53:18 PM
everyone only wants to play versus or doesn't have the patience to restart on a failed expert attempt.
didn't really want to play it with randoms. when you gonna get back in the game?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on September 02, 2010, 05:23:58 PM
I got school and work now so....
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 02, 2010, 09:53:05 PM
everyone only wants to play versus or doesn't have the patience to restart on a failed expert attempt.
didn't really want to play it with randoms. when you gonna get back in the game?
It's a long shot to do it with pubbies, you need to get a "crew" together. Make friends with the best players you play with and pubbie stomp a lot and then work on those experts.
Also getting expert is (arguably) easier on some mutations (weekly gametypes), such as last man on earth, chainsaw massacre, etc. Maybe the four swordsmen one? I never tried that one.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: MoronSonOfBoron on September 02, 2010, 10:40:22 PM
BlackNMild2k1, I run with a fairly awesome crew. If you catch me lurking on Steam, ask me for a run and I'll see if I can't get a couple buddies to back us up.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 02, 2010, 11:12:02 PM
cool. I'll do that.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on September 03, 2010, 03:17:50 AM
Hehe. Mind you, I am waiting for my chance to run realism expert.
Running expert on some mutations comes pretty close to cheating as it destroys the thought that goes in to the maps. Since then it has lost a lot of it's meaning.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Morari on September 03, 2010, 11:00:19 AM
Also getting expert is (arguably) easier on some mutations (weekly gametypes), such as last man on earth, chainsaw massacre, etc. Maybe the four swordsmen one? I never tried that one.
Gib Fest is going on right now. It'd probably be pretty easy with that. I've had the achievement for a while and didn't find it too difficult. Surprisingly, Dark Carnival gave us the most trouble back then.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Stratos on October 06, 2010, 12:40:15 AM
I caved in and bought the game for only $7 on Steam. So who wants to roll out with me on my virgin run tomorrow (gonna take half the night to D/L)?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 06, 2010, 12:44:40 AM
I bought it because of the sale too. I'm a bit busy this week because of midterms, though, so I don't know if I'll have time tomorrow.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Stratos on October 06, 2010, 12:46:03 AM
Hey, we never play Modern Warfare anymore so maybe we'll have better luck here?
Am I friends with you on steam?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 06, 2010, 12:47:14 AM
I don't think so. I don't have many friends on Steam since I don't play many multiplayer PC games.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Stratos on October 06, 2010, 12:49:41 AM
Same here. I'm friends with Kraken, Vudu, BnM and one non-NWR 'Real Life' Friend.
I don't see you in the NWR Steam group so you'll have to add me.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2010, 01:15:46 AM
I caved in and bought the game for only $7 on Steam. So who wants to roll out with me on my virgin run tomorrow (gonna take half the night to D/L)?
hit me up on steam, I might join you. I haven't played for about a month since I've been kinda busy with other stuff, but I should have some time.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: vudu on October 06, 2010, 02:01:30 PM
Morari & Kraken (or anyone else): Is there any reason to buy the original L4D these days? I'm under the impression that you can get all the original maps on L4D2. I ask because both games are currently on sale for ~$7 each or ~$10 for both. I want to pick up L4D2 but is there any reason for me to get bundle?
Note: "It's only three dollars!" is not a reason. :)
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on October 06, 2010, 05:58:05 PM
It's worth getting it just for a quick romp. After playing it you can see the improvements made to L4D2 and understand some of the generally overblown bitching regarding L4D1/L4D2. Get some story, have some change of scenery. It is a less intense game than L4D2 though. Final campaign for L4D2 it is not unusual to see 3000+ zombie kills. L4D1 tend to have kill counts less than half that.
Just get the bundle, at that price they are almost giving it away (Which they did for some 50k of people with L4D2).
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: kraken613 on October 09, 2010, 04:45:10 AM
Um, just played an intense L4D1 session with some friends. Man do I love that game a much darker tone that the second, its actually tons of fun to just play campaign in it. L4D2 is much brighter and went for the lighter B-Movie style compared to L4D1. Found some awesome easter-eggs while playing today. (One a mini model city under the map, the other very, very creepy noises in a certain room.)
After playing so much L4D1 today I really want to play more of it, the maps are just brilliant.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Stratos on October 10, 2010, 06:13:07 AM
Um, just played an intense L4D1 session with some friends. Man do I love that game a much darker tone that the second, its actually tons of fun to just play campaign in it. L4D2 is much brighter and went for the lighter B-Movie style compared to L4D1. Found some awesome easter-eggs while playing today. (One a mini model city under the map, the other very, very creepy noises in a certain room.)
After playing so much L4D1 today I really want to play more of it, the maps are just brilliant.
I'll play either game with you since I've not beaten all of the missions in the first one yet.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on October 10, 2010, 09:50:26 AM
I'm up for some co-op on both L4D1 and L4D2 (PC version, of course). I'm not very familiar with the sequel yet, as I only just finished installing it, but that shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Stratos on October 11, 2010, 04:12:26 AM
Well, I got a three day weekend coming up now. Anybody looking to go hunt zombies?
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: oohhboy on October 11, 2010, 07:33:07 AM
<=== Steam name
I am up for a game, but be warned that I am in New Zealand, so to the West coast of the US is about 250ms. Not good enough for verses, but If you want to roll for some campaign fun, I am good to go.
Here is a quick mini review of the Mac version.
Functional identical in every way to the PC with one cavet. Graphical performance is a little behind. Visually it is nearly identical. The flash light cones from other players are a little more noticeable and the circle of light is softer. There are periodic random pauses that last about 1/4 of a second not found in the PC version. I am playing with maxed out settings.
The expected patch or two should really clean thing up, but unless you are really OCD for performance, there is no reason not to play this on a Mac.
Title: Re: Left 4 Dead 2
Post by: Stratos on October 12, 2010, 12:17:29 AM
I'm going to play now with a friend. Come join us if you'd like.
