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Title: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 14, 2009, 04:07:41 PM
Retailer's Black Friday ad confirms a little something extra in the box.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20320

 As part of its upcoming Black Friday sale, U.S. electronics retailer Best Buy plans to have two special Nintendo DSi bundles that include the system and several games.  However, these bundles will be a little different this time around: the games will be DSiWare titles, and they will come pre-installed on the system.    


The first bundle includes a white DSi with Brain Age Express: Arts & Letters, Brain Age Express: Sudoku, Brain Age Express: Math, Clubhouse Games Express: Card Classics, and Photo Clock already installed.    


The second bundle features a metallic blue DSi with Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again!, WarioWare Snapped!, Dr. Mario Express, Mario Calculator, and Mario Clock.    


The "Brain Age" bundle is the slightly better deal of the two; it includes software currently worth 2800 DSiWare points ($28.00), while the "Mario" bundle includes software currently worth 2200 DSiWare points ($22.00).    


Both bundles will retail for $169.99 USD, with a limit of 1 per customer.

Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 15, 2009, 12:20:57 AM
So you get a DSi for $10 less than normal PLUS about $20 worth of games DSiWare games (I am ignoring the clock/calculator Apps since they aren't games)? Damn good deal. Every one of these bundles will be gone within 30 minutes of a store opening though (unless you live in a hick town where the Best Buy is so far out of the way that very few people will actually go to it).
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: stevey on November 15, 2009, 12:43:46 AM
Alright, time for me to get a DSi.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: broodwars on November 15, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
About time Nintendo started experimenting with stuff like this.  If you want people to use your download service, give them a taste and show them where to go for more.  I'm kind of surprised they're actually manufacturing a separate SKU for this, though.  You'd think they'd just manufacture an install DSi cartridge and pack it in with the system to save on having to program a whole line of DSi units just for this one company on this one day.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: Mop it up on November 15, 2009, 01:12:13 AM
You'd think they'd just manufacture an install DSi cartridge and pack it in with the system to save on having to program a whole line of DSi units just for this one company on this one day.
Nintendo rejects your logic and substitutes its own.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: UncleBob on November 15, 2009, 01:16:31 AM
You'll be seeing these bundles at more than BB.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: stevey on November 15, 2009, 01:25:31 AM
About time Nintendo started experimenting with stuff like this.  If you want people to use your download service, give them a taste and show them where to go for more.  I'm kind of surprised they're actually manufacturing a separate SKU for this, though.  You'd think they'd just manufacture an install DSi cartridge and pack it in with the system to save on having to program a whole line of DSi units just for this one company on this one day.

I don't think it much more difficult or different than what Nintendo does when it regularly upgrade firmware on new systems. All the systems have to be program anyway so Nintendo just added some extra code in when they do it. The main difference is mainly the art on box it comes in...
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: broodwars on November 15, 2009, 01:38:32 AM
About time Nintendo started experimenting with stuff like this.  If you want people to use your download service, give them a taste and show them where to go for more.  I'm kind of surprised they're actually manufacturing a separate SKU for this, though.  You'd think they'd just manufacture an install DSi cartridge and pack it in with the system to save on having to program a whole line of DSi units just for this one company on this one day.

I don't think it much more difficult or different than what Nintendo does when it regularly upgrade firmware on new systems. All the systems have to be program anyway so Nintendo just added some extra code in when they do it. The main difference is mainly the art on box it comes in...

True enough, I suppose.  I am a little curious about the longterm logistics of this.  For instance, are these programs hard-coded on the DSi so they can't be removed, thus cutting down on the overall storage capacity of the DSi?  If not, once deleted can these programs be redownloaded for free considering the user never paid for them and thus never had it tied to an account?  Knowing Nintendo, the answers are probably "No" and "Yes", respectively, but you never know.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: Mop it up on November 15, 2009, 01:41:49 AM
If not, once deleted can these programs be redownloaded for free considering the user never paid for them and thus never had it tied to an account?
I didn't think they are tied to an online account but rather to the system itself. At least, that's how the Wii works I believe...
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: broodwars on November 15, 2009, 01:47:10 AM
If not, once deleted can these programs be redownloaded for free considering the user never paid for them and thus never had it tied to an account?
I didn't think they are tied to an online account but rather to the system itself. At least, that's how the Wii works I believe...

That's what I meant.  With the Wii, you "account" is your system itself.  I'm just curious if the DSi's online service will recognize the pre-loaded content on the DSi as "already downloaded" software so you can redownload it later if you wish.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: KDR_11k on November 15, 2009, 02:25:27 AM
They probably initialize the accounts for those systems with the right software.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: pyrokamileon on November 15, 2009, 02:29:18 AM
the DSi is already $169 so how are these bundles any cheaper?! gosh if only they selling a DSi for even $20 cheaper than normal then I might as well say it's time to get a DSi... how many years after the initial DS released and they're not bringing down the price at all but they're actually raising it!!  new DSi=$169! new DSi XL=$220!!!
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 15, 2009, 09:45:08 AM
the DSi is already $169 so how are these bundles any cheaper?! gosh if only they selling a DSi for even $20 cheaper than normal then I might as well say it's time to get a DSi... how many years after the initial DS released and they're not bringing down the price at all but they're actually raising it!!  new DSi=$169! new DSi XL=$220!!!

The included software is basically an added value solution. While yes it doesn't have a price drop it includes free software, sort of how Microsoft always releases holiday bundles. Free software will always entice people even if no price drop is present. Even if you buy a video game system you will always buy a game to play on your system, with included software you don't need to buy games for it since you already have some on the system.

I'm getting the metallic blue DSi since that shade of blue is one of my favorite colors and it has 2 games that I really want and I always wanted to try out WarioWare to see if it's as bad as people made it out to be.

Quote from: NWRLindy
The "Brain Age" bundle is the slightly better deal of the two; it includes software currently worth 2800 DSiWare points ($28.00), while the "Mario" bundle includes software currently worth 2200 DSiWare points ($22.00).   

I really think that's subjective Lindy. Just because the total software that's available on the Brain Age bundle costs more than the software that's included in the Mario bundle, doesn't mean that it's the better deal. Take for instance I don't really like the Brain Age games (except Big Brain Academy for some reason I think that one is really fun) so I think that most of the stuff in that bundle is junk, while the Mario bundle has games that I would of actually bought on the DSi Shop which at the end of the day saves me some money on DSiWare games.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 15, 2009, 11:01:46 AM
the DSi is already $169 so how are these bundles any cheaper?! gosh if only they selling a DSi for even $20 cheaper than normal then I might as well say it's time to get a DSi... how many years after the initial DS released and they're not bringing down the price at all but they're actually raising it!!  new DSi=$169! new DSi XL=$220!!!

The DSi is $179, not $169 (unless Nintendo dropped the price in the last 8 hours).
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 15, 2009, 11:45:16 AM
TJ, the DSi has always been 169.99.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: EasyCure on November 15, 2009, 11:50:14 AM
I probably won't be taking up this offer... unless i get a close look at the blue DSI. I'd rather purchase a system i find cosmetically appealing and get my own ds-ware for it than settle for something i don't like just because its a bit better value.
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on November 15, 2009, 12:26:10 PM
According to the NeoGAF Black Friday thread (I don't know their source), Best Buy is also giving away a $20 gift card with every DSi system purchase. That makes it quite an enticing deal!
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: EasyCure on November 15, 2009, 12:36:13 PM
There we go, now that is something I can get behind!
Title: Re: Best Buy's Black Friday DSi Systems Pre-Loaded with DSiWare
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2009, 01:18:40 PM
According to the NeoGAF Black Friday thread (I don't know their source), Best Buy is also giving away a $20 gift card with every DSi system purchase. That makes it quite an enticing deal!
Why would you go to NeoGAFs black friday thread?
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=13136.msg564475#msg564475

I've posted everything they probably have and maybe more.
Maybe I should consolidate it all into one thread though.

and you supposedly get the same deal at Target too.