"This cannot be defined as healthy," said Nintendo President Satoru Iwata.
Despite a few sales spikes with the release of titles like Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus, and the recent price drop, Nintendo has been unable to maintain solid sales each week. The slow Wii sales are one of the reasons Nintendo has warned of possible profit declines. According to Iwata the Wii's recent price cut "seems to have the least impact here than other parts of the world." "It is our urgent mission to recover the momentum of Wii during the holidays, utilizing Nintendo's strength," Iwata said.
The DS, on the other hand, has seen great legs in sales thanks to anticipated releases like Dragon Quest IX and Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver.
Somebody has to say it...
NINTENDO IS TEH DOOMED
Somebody has to say it...
NINTENDO IS TEH DOOMED
Nintendo gets worried about DS sales slowing down when the fact is they've sold so many damn units that the market is almost saturated. That's not bad news it's GOOD since games are supposed to be where the money is and if you have a decent business model you'll benefit from the large userbase. Maybe the Wii is similar to that in that it just has sold so well that most of the target market has it already.
If you can keep them busy upgrading to the new model they won't have the time or money to check out the competition.
The problem is and has always been the lack of games. What the hell has Nintendo been doing this last year? I don't see new IPs... just the same old franchises plus some parlor game crap and non-games. This won't cut it. If Nintendo doesn't start releasing good games then they will lose their 1st place position, and this is a fact.
The problem is and has always been the lack of games. What the hell has Nintendo been doing this last year? I don't see new IPs... just the same old franchises plus some parlor game crap and non-games. This won't cut it. If Nintendo doesn't start releasing good games then they will lose their 1st place position, and this is a fact.
I'd like to see that, do you even realize how big of a lead they have? No probably not.
I just figured that I'd save everybody the trouble, since I'm going to wind up locking this thread eventually anyways.
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The problem is and has always been the lack of games. What the hell has Nintendo been doing this last year? I don't see new IPs... just the same old franchises plus some parlor game crap and non-games. This won't cut it. If Nintendo doesn't start releasing good games then they will lose their 1st place position, and this is a fact.
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
No I understand it just fine. I think it's you that doesn't realize the Wii has a 5million console lead and to only make it up 10-15k consoles at a time is gonna take a very long time. If the PS3 were to actually catch up anytime soon, it would require Nintendo to stop selling the Wii now while the PS3 keeps selling whatever it's selling now.
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
No I understand it just fine. I think it's you that doesn't realize the Wii has a 5million console lead and to only make it up 10-15k consoles at a time is gonna take a very long time. If the PS3 were to actually catch up anytime soon, it would require Nintendo to stop selling the Wii now while the PS3 keeps selling whatever it's selling now.
PS3 won't catch up with the Wii. Ever really.
I would think the bigger concern would be that the current trend of PS3 outselling the Wii would be troubling from a developer standpoint, as the last thing Nintendo needs is another excuse for developers to use to support another console.
NSMB Wii will hopefully rectify the situation, but if this keeps up Sony has a small victory on their hand with a YTD win.
That is all the excuse the Japanese 3rd party developers need to justify their shunning of the Wii.
Nintendooooooooooooooomed!!!
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
No I understand it just fine. I think it's you that doesn't realize the Wii has a 5million console lead and to only make it up 10-15k consoles at a time is gonna take a very long time. If the PS3 were to actually catch up anytime soon, it would require Nintendo to stop selling the Wii now while the PS3 keeps selling whatever it's selling now.
The concern is that the lead will increase from 10k - 15k to something more substantial. There's an argument that once FF XIII releases a lot of hold outs will purchase PS3s. Then again, the same can be said for DQX, so it's a moot point at this time.
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
No I understand it just fine. I think it's you that doesn't realize the Wii has a 5million console lead and to only make it up 10-15k consoles at a time is gonna take a very long time. If the PS3 were to actually catch up anytime soon, it would require Nintendo to stop selling the Wii now while the PS3 keeps selling whatever it's selling now.
The concern is that the lead will increase from 10k - 15k to something more substantial. There's an argument that once FF XIII releases a lot of hold outs will purchase PS3s. Then again, the same can be said for DQX, so it's a moot point at this time.
Given Square-Enix's usual development time for a Dragon Quest game, I wouldn't expect DQ X till at the earliest the end of the Wii's lifecycle. I see it more becoming a killer-ap launch title (in Japan, anyway) for the Wii's successor. FF XIII we at least know is coming out in Japan in a month and in North America sometime early next year, so if the PS3 gets a bounce the closest I see from the Wii matching that is the next Legend of Zelda.
PS3 won't catch up with the Wii. Ever really.
I would think the bigger concern would be that the current trend of PS3 outselling the Wii would be troubling from a developer standpoint, as the last thing Nintendo needs is another excuse for developers to use to support another console.
weird. I pretty much said the same thing in the sales threadNSMB Wii will hopefully rectify the situation, but if this keeps up Sony has a small victory on their hand with a YTD win.
That is all the excuse the Japanese 3rd party developers need to justify their shunning of the Wii.
Nintendooooooooooooooomed!!!
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
No I understand it just fine. I think it's you that doesn't realize the Wii has a 5million console lead and to only make it up 10-15k consoles at a time is gonna take a very long time. If the PS3 were to actually catch up anytime soon, it would require Nintendo to stop selling the Wii now while the PS3 keeps selling whatever it's selling now.
The concern is that the lead will increase from 10k - 15k to something more substantial. There's an argument that once FF XIII releases a lot of hold outs will purchase PS3s. Then again, the same can be said for DQX, so it's a moot point at this time.
Given Square-Enix's usual development time for a Dragon Quest game, I wouldn't expect DQ X till at the earliest the end of the Wii's lifecycle. I see it more becoming a killer-ap launch title (in Japan, anyway) for the Wii's successor. FF XIII we at least know is coming out in Japan in a month and in North America sometime early next year, so if the PS3 gets a bounce the closest I see from the Wii matching that is the next Legend of Zelda.
The Japanese market is so radically different now though, if Nintendo releases some great casual killer app it could sustain the system far longer then FF13 would PS3.
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
No I understand it just fine. I think it's you that doesn't realize the Wii has a 5million console lead and to only make it up 10-15k consoles at a time is gonna take a very long time. If the PS3 were to actually catch up anytime soon, it would require Nintendo to stop selling the Wii now while the PS3 keeps selling whatever it's selling now.
The concern is that the lead will increase from 10k - 15k to something more substantial. There's an argument that once FF XIII releases a lot of hold outs will purchase PS3s. Then again, the same can be said for DQX, so it's a moot point at this time.
Given Square-Enix's usual development time for a Dragon Quest game, I wouldn't expect DQ X till at the earliest the end of the Wii's lifecycle. I see it more becoming a killer-ap launch title (in Japan, anyway) for the Wii's successor. FF XIII we at least know is coming out in Japan in a month and in North America sometime early next year, so if the PS3 gets a bounce the closest I see from the Wii matching that is the next Legend of Zelda.
The Japanese market is so radically different now though, if Nintendo releases some great casual killer app it could sustain the system far longer then FF13 would PS3.
True enough. I'm sure Wii Sports Winter Getaway and Wii Fit ++ (or something of that nature) will do just that sometime in the next few years.
ShyGuy: Water is wet.
BnM I think you fail to understand that the PS3's sales are increasing, so it may not take that long for it to catch up.
No I understand it just fine. I think it's you that doesn't realize the Wii has a 5million console lead and to only make it up 10-15k consoles at a time is gonna take a very long time. If the PS3 were to actually catch up anytime soon, it would require Nintendo to stop selling the Wii now while the PS3 keeps selling whatever it's selling now.
Nintendo is in no danger of being driven out of the console wars or even becoming unprofitable, but there is a very real danger they will lose their current 1st place status and if they don't start getting serious that is something that will happen sooner or later. I don't want it to happen, but I can see how it could.
Yes, that is a good point about the 3rd parties.
