Post by: Don'tHate742 on April 20, 2003, 09:07:16 AM
hopefully they show us something at SP(if they are having it this year) or E3 04'
Post by: rpglover on April 20, 2003, 09:11:38 AM
i do believe they are now trying to cut down the time it usually takes them to release games
the big name games will come back on the gamecube probably but not for a little while
i would say another 2 years and we should see another zelda
i believe that it was 2 years after ocarina came out that majora'a mask was shipped
but i dont think we will see anything this year at e3
i would bet nintendo is probably going to highlight alot of 3rd party games along with some of their own (mario kart, mario tennis and golf, game zero, silicon knights games, fzero)
Post by: Don'tHate742 on April 20, 2003, 09:16:56 AM
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on April 20, 2003, 09:53:39 AM
I personally would like them to hold off on a Zelfda title for Gamecube, and have it for launch on that next console.
Post by: Squall on April 20, 2003, 10:03:17 AM
Something a little more innovative than WW was too. Of course, I'd rather see a brand new game than another Zelda. 1 game in each major franchise each gen I say.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 20, 2003, 10:24:41 AM
Post by: Michael8983 on April 20, 2003, 11:29:42 AM
It will probably end up being one of the very last games released on the console.
I don't think it will be a traditional Zelda game though. Miyamoto seems to be getting bored with the same old formulas in his games. I think that's one of the key reasons he liked the cel-shadeing. It made Wind Waker into more than just some graphically updated Oot.
So my guess is the next Zelda game on the GCN will be a huge departure from the norm.
Post by: Caterkiller on April 20, 2003, 12:10:48 PM
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Post by: Caterkiller on April 20, 2003, 12:28:05 PM
Does anyone remember when he said he didn't like where Zelda was going with the realistic graphics and that earing? But in that interview I was just talking about he said that they still love the realistic Link. Maybe they just love Link and hate the realistic world he was in.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 20, 2003, 12:46:24 PM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 20, 2003, 02:59:15 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on April 20, 2003, 04:53:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Im guessing Miyamoto doesn't want Zelda to go as realistic as Sonic did in Sonic Adventure 1 &2.
How was Sonic realistic in Sonic Adventure 1 & 2? Sonic's levels played like 3D versions of the old 2D Sonic games. The problem with Sonic Adventure were the non Sonic levels...which sucked hard in Sonic Adventure 2. Anyway to the topic at hand. Miyamoto did state there would be another Zelda on GC, and if goes with the realistic look they already have the basic engine for that. I don't think the next Zelda will go with that look, I'd like to see an epic Zelda game done with the more realistic look but that doesn't seem to be Miyamoto's vision so I wouldn't bet on it.
Darc Requiem
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on April 20, 2003, 08:56:18 PM
They have problems getting things 'properly' realistic, so try to solve those problems!
You know how when a character goes up to a wall, and you noticably see them partially go through it? Then create a better collision detection system.
IS all I need to say.
Post by: Lao-tzu on April 20, 2003, 09:01:06 PM
Cell- shaded WW looked a WHOLE OT like OoT. It was clearer, and more defigned, but it was OoT. (And MM)
I don't think cell shading was enough to make WW innovative in the Zelda series. It will be remembered as the game that came after OoT..and that's fine - it is, after all, a sequel.
But I garentee that the next zelda game will not be such a similar game to OoT and MM.
Nintendo is putting the emphisis on innovation this coming year, and I think they are going to have to redefine Zelda.
That means a complete gameplay style change. It could be more dungons, less exploration, no more z-targeting, all talking and towns, or something else totally unexpected.
You won't be seeing an other Wind Waker, or a game that goes .. "And THEN Link goes somewhere else, and saves it."
Think different Link, Different world, Different style.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 21, 2003, 12:56:53 AM
BTW, why does everyone think it wouldnt be possible to display emotions well enough with realistic faces? Some emotion were even very evident in OOT, and add a couple thousand more polys to a face and you should be able to do it well. Remember the SW2K demo, I thought that displayed emotions quite well.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on April 21, 2003, 04:56:42 AM
Star Fox Adventures does facial emotions really, really well.
Post by: Ninja X on April 21, 2003, 08:29:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Lao-tzu
Nintendo is putting the emphisis on innovation this coming year, and I think they are going to have to redefine Zelda.
That means a complete gameplay style change. It could be more dungons, less exploration, no more z-targeting, all talking and towns, or something else totally unexpected.
You won't be seeing an other Wind Waker, or a game that goes .. "And THEN Link goes somewhere else, and saves it."
Think different Link, Different world, Different style.
How is that innovation? That's still the same style of gameplay. Link would still be going into dungeons and towns. Not to mention exploration has always been the main theme of the game. And all Link can do is save worlds. That is what Link does every Zelda game. He saves the world and stops the evil villian, which is Ganon in most cases. I do not think we'll be seeing Link do something else than saving the world.
Nintendo's trying hard to innovate Zelda every time. With Majora was the time system. With the Wind Waker was sailing on the ocean. I think what would be cool (perhaps innovative) for the next Zelda is to make the game truly non-linear. Let the gamer tackle any dungeon he wants. Do not make the game a collecting quest (The gods' pearls, medallions, etc.) but make it a quest for something else besides a quest to collect a certain amount of something like medallions in order to gain something to defeat evil with.
Post by: Locke Cole on April 21, 2003, 10:42:39 AM
I'll let the link explain everything.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 21, 2003, 12:09:05 PM
I think Wind Waker was revolutionary. The combat is spectacular, and all the miniquests and characters are very good. Cel-shading did not revolutionize it (though it is a revolutionary style and is very cool and effective), it only helped. The game is innovative, and I of all people should know.
Post by: Locke Cole on April 21, 2003, 12:14:24 PM
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Post by: Don'tHate742 on April 21, 2003, 09:37:31 PM
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if realistic graphics make Link look stupid when he does his flashing A moves then I would be angry.
I don't think they would have the same moves, becuase that would look stupid on a realistic Link. It would be cool if some evil guy with a sword, vertical swiped at you and the flashing A move was: Link would dodge right, grab the guys arm and put it into a hold where it could break his arm (with Links left arm) and at the same time makes him drop his sword, then Link kicks him in the back of the head assuming that the evil guy swiped with his left arm.
Would the kick be out of place though?
Anyways, there is definitely going to be two zeldas (at least) on the GC. If you look in the past there has always been at least two zeldas per Nintendo system (handheld also). Also, it would be interesting if it was in realistic graphics to see how it would sell compared to the other.
I don't know a new way Link could travel around, maybe they could bring the horse back or he could sail, or maybe he could ride some fish (the latter one is stupid as hell).
1 more thing:
It would be cool if there was a light side/dark side overworld, kinda like OOT adult/child. The light side could be cel-shaded while the dark side could be realistic. AH?
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