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Title: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Khushrenada on August 13, 2009, 12:48:47 AM
Story Post. Ha ha. Made you look.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Khushrenada on August 13, 2009, 12:49:01 AM
Announcement Post:

The following people have died:

Kashogi Y. Stogi - Townie (Death by Vote) Whyyyyyyyyy? DK just wanted to party. Cool avatar FTL!
Stratos - Townie (Death by Mafia)

Townie bloodbath continues. 100% killed. Yay. You are winners. If your mafia!


Voting ends as usual. Mindnight EST. Night actions due 30 minutes. Be there or be square!
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: that Baby guy on August 13, 2009, 12:51:50 AM
Day 1's rundown
--Thatguy: un-vote Vudu (Doesn't like Vudu)
--Mop_it_up: un-vote Stratos (Traditional Day 1 vote)
GP: Vote Stratos (Following Mop_it_up's vote)
Dasmos: Vote DAaaMan (Posted first in the thread out of him and Pap)
DAaaMan: Vote Dasmos (Retalliation vote)
--thatguy: un-vote Stogi (Stogi's claim of ignorance to PM'ed roles.)
Spak: Vote Insanolord (hunch
Pale: Vote Insanolord (Likes Spak's hunch)
Pap: Vote Dasmos (No reason cited)
--Maxi: un-vote Pale (Just to see what happens)
--thatguy: un-vote Vudu (It was possible Stogi made a mistake)
Stratos: Vote Dasmos (Break the tie between he and Dasmos)
Thatguy: Vote Stogi (Stogi asked people not to vote)
Maxi: Vote Insanolord (No reason cited at the time, lack of participation stated later)
--Stogi: Un-vote someone. (Not sure who or why, it turned to un-vote Bubba Khush)
Stogi: Vote Pap (No reason cited)
Mop_it_up: Vote Insanolord (No reason cited)
Vudu: Vote Insanolord (To prevent possibility of a tie)

End tally:

Stratos: 1
DAaaMan: 1
Pap: 1
Stogi: 1
Dasmos: 3
Insanolord: 5

Day 2's rundown

--thatguy: un-vote Stogi (Believes post about not having a PM to be a charade)
Dasmos: Vote Pap64 (Has a '64' in his name)
Spak: Vote Pale (Followed Spak's hunch about Insanolord yesterday, effectively beginning a bandwagon)
--DrewMG: un-vote Stogi (Likes thatguy's logic)
--vudu: un-vote Nickmitch (Nickmitch is experienced, but hiding)
--thatguy: un-vote Vudu (Vote to eliminate chance of Day 1 tie, taking things out of nullifier's hands)
stevey: vote Pale (Kills off stevey for always outing Khush)
Pale: vote Vudu (guaranteed Insanolord's death on Day 1)
Vudu: vote Pale (Pale's logic is poor; I wasn't around last night to prevent a tie, so a tie could have been worse)
Stogi: vote Kracken (no reason cited)
DAaaMan: vote Dasmos (no reason cited; "DAAAASSSMMMOOOSSSS")
Mop_it_up: vote Pale (Pale's previous post, "I like bandwagons," reminds her of how he played as mafia before)
thatguy: vote Pale (Pale latched on to Spak's vote)
Pap: vote Pale (Joined the bandwagon, no idea who else to vote for)
kraken: vote Pale (likes to follow, not sure what else to do)

Day 2's end tally:
Pap: 1
Vudu: 1
Kracken: 1
Dasmos: 1
Pale: 7

Day 3's Rundown
Stratos: vote Mop_it_up(evasive)
--thatguy: un-vote Mop_it_up(Believe Stratos wouldn't vote her if he's not convinced)
Stogi: vote thatguy (several reasons, primarily for calling him out about the PM post on Day 1)
Kraken: vote Mop_it_up (she likes Wii Music)
Spak: vote Vudu (Believes thatguy is on to somebody)
Dasmos: vote Kashogi (squirmed)
DAaaMan: vote thatguy (guiding everyone)
--nickmitch: un-vote Vudu (got Pale bandwagon rolling)
Vudu: vote Stogi (Stogi and Dasmos vote for thatguy, despite his role claim)
Pap64: vote Stogi (most suspiscious unless he proves otherwise, or someone is more suspicious)
stevey: vote thatguy (Khush's number two)
GoldenPhoenix: vote thatguy (jumping on a bandwagon)
nickmitch: vote Mop_it_up (going along with thatguy's verification plan)
--Mop_it_up: un-vote thatguy (saving herself)
Mop_it_up: vote Stogi (Thinks Stogi is more likely mafia than thatguy)
thatguy: vote Stogi (The whole PM message ordeal that Stogi and thatguy discussed)

Day 3's end tally:
Vudu: 1
Mop_it_up:3
thatguy: 4
Stogi: 5


Once again, let me know if any errors are apparent.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Dasmos on August 13, 2009, 01:05:34 AM
I'm gonna VOTE PAP64, despite his beautiful avatar.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 13, 2009, 01:17:19 AM
I'm gonna VOTE PAP64, despite his beautiful avatar.

I forgive your vote for the sole reason that you complimented my avatar :) . I have to give credit to thatguy, though, for my beauitful icon.

Once again, I am going to see how events run, though I was thinking of voting for Mop since a bandwagon was started against her in the last day.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: that Baby guy on August 13, 2009, 01:26:25 AM
After talking with Mop_it_up last game, I don't think she'd kill Stratos as a mafia member, this convinces me she's not member of the mafia, or at least not the godfather, if she is.  She felt terrible she was involved with getting Stratos killed in Mario Kart Mafia.  Seriously, genuinely terrible.

Which moves me on to Vudu.  I'm not ready to convict anyone at this point in the day, but I do expect to see a lot of discussion.

Edit:  What did I do to give you your icon, Pap?

And an editfessional:
I'm not the nullifier.  That might shock some of you.  It might not shock others.  I'm not the nullifier one bit, nor am I the doctor.  I'm just a townie.  A normal every day townie.  Why did I claim to be the nullifier?  A few reasons:  For one, to see if the mafia had guts to go after the nullifer if he was announced, for one.  To try to unite the townies, for another.  Had they gone after me, after my announcement, it would be clear that if the nullifier came out, the doctor would HAVE TO protect him.  I did not make contact with either townie roled player, as far as I know, no one has claimed to actually be the nullifier, aside from me, and I have absolutely no idea if the doctor actually did protect me.  I'm pretty sure he did not, though, or else he might have said something to me.

With this all said, in the end, I didn't unite very much.  I was working with Stratos, that's true, and he asked me to target Mop_it_up.  I did, until it became clear that I was going to be at a very large risk for doing so, without the certainty of something to protect me from the vote.  I was bluffing all the way, and honestly, I really wanted to see if the nullifier was going to do as I said I would do as the nullifier.  We never found out, but it was nice to see at least he or she didn't do the opposite.

The only idea I can present to you about my other innocence is this:  A mafia member would have to be crazy to pretend to have a townie role.  In almost every case, the end result would be the loss of a mafia member for little or no gain.  As a townie, I had little to lose, and had this plan been successful, the townies would have gained much, much more.

But it wasn't, so that's where we are now, and that's my confession.  I told or hinted this to a few players, just because, and to see a reaction.  Spak knew, nickmitch knew yesterday, and I mentioned it to stevey and GP briefly.  I think that covers it.  Vudu claimed to believe me in a charmingly manner, despite naming about six scenarios where I could be lying, which is a major reason why I'm suspicious of him, since he always takes a jab at me, and never trusts me, whenever it's possible and there's compelling evidence to believe.  That's the bulk of my suspicion of Vudu, and literally, I believe this puts just about everything I've done and said this game out in the open and on the table.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Dasmos on August 13, 2009, 04:53:37 AM
Yeah I didn't think you were the nullifier, but I at least thought you knew who he/she was. What was your plan if we had gone ahead with your plan to "prove" your role?
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: that Baby guy on August 13, 2009, 05:17:35 AM
My plan?  Well, depending on the situation, several things could have happened.  The nullifier, for instance, could have been angry I took his/her name, and from there, might have blocked my vote... Which fell in line with what I said I would do later.
Honestly, I figured someone would pop in, say it's dangerously close to death, and etc.

The truth, though, is this:  I wanted to be put in the situation, then I wanted to change my vote at the last minute to the other person.  I hoped that the nullifier would do nothing to alter this, and that the doctor had protected me.  At that point, the mafia would see that I was probably lying, and from there, they'd put a hit on me.  The hope was that if the doctor put the protection earlier in the day, then wasn't around at night, I'd be protected, the mafia would have hit me, and in the end, they wouldn't have killed anyone.  I chickened out, though, but I do wonder "What if..."
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: nickmitch on August 13, 2009, 01:06:39 PM
So, we need to get it together, guys.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: stevey on August 13, 2009, 02:20:32 PM
I told you so!

Vote mafia
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: vudu on August 13, 2009, 02:28:47 PM
Vudu claimed to believe me in a charmingly manner, despite naming about six scenarios where I could be lying, which is a major reason why I'm suspicious of him, since he always takes a jab at me, and never trusts me, whenever it's possible and there's compelling evidence to believe.

Since nobody came forward to refute your claim I had no choice but to believe you--that or at least believe you were in touch with the nullifer (which is just as good in this case).  Regardless, it doesn't really matter--the nullifer is a pretty useless role.

Here's the current player list.

Athena Asamiya
DAaaMan64
Dasmos
Golden Phoenix
kraken613
Mop_it_up
Nickmitch
Pap64
Plugabugz
Spak-Spang
Stevey
Thatguy
Vudu

Athena and Plugabugz haven't voted yet--Athena's been MIA since day 1 and we haven't even seen Plugabugz yet--so I think we can safely assume neither of them are the Godfather (although it doesn't rule either out as potential mafia goons).  There's also a strong likelihood that one of them is the nullifer.

Kraken wasn't around on day 1, so he's probably not Godfather either.

Everyone else is participating.  I don't really have any strong suspicions.

I'm going to VOTE DAAAMAN because he voted for thatguy yesterday when we all thought he was the nullifer (or at least some of us did).  And even though he's voted everyday, he hasn't really been participating in the witch-hunt.  It could be that he's just a boring townie (and thus not very involved in the game) or it could be that he's laying low.  I'd like to find out which it is.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on August 13, 2009, 04:36:12 PM
lol >.> kill me. watch what happens then ass face.  Don't you think my votes have been a bit erratic to be some organized mafia?
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Plugabugz on August 13, 2009, 04:48:15 PM
I am still about, but i really haven't been paying attention because i started working this week and have really put my time into that and trying to get sufficient rest.

Yes vudu, i saw what you did. Thanks for telling me.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Mop it up on August 13, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
Vote Thatguy

You are so full of crap. I knew I shouldn't have listened to you yesterday.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: nickmitch on August 13, 2009, 05:07:04 PM
I don't even know who to vote for, but I do have some ideas.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: vudu on August 13, 2009, 05:13:31 PM
lol >.> kill me. watch what happens then ass face. 

LOL.  This cracks me up.  ;D

Give me someone else to vote for and I'll change my vote.  Right now you're as good as anyone.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Athena Asamiya on August 13, 2009, 06:58:18 PM
I don't mean to be MIA, I have had the most crazy awful week at work :(

I'm also hesitant to play, I'm just watching and observing as people go. I'm sorry, I still don't really understand it.

Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 13, 2009, 07:03:32 PM
Let's try this again. Thatguy is hard to pin down because he is so crafty but I'm going to:

vote thatguy
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on August 13, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
lol >.> kill me. watch what happens then ass face.

LOL.  This cracks me up.  ;D

Give me someone else to vote for and I'll change my vote.  Right now you're as good as anyone.

Fine vudu. Then vote that guy. I'm doing it.
vote thatguy
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 13, 2009, 07:16:10 PM
I don't mean to be MIA, I have had the most crazy awful week at work :(

I'm also hesitant to play, I'm just watching and observing as people go. I'm sorry, I still don't really understand it.



Mafia is mainly a game of chance.  There are the good guys (townies) and the bad guys (mafia). When you sign up the host assign you one of those roles. The goal of the game is to eliminate the opposition before they eliminate you. The thing is that once the game starts no one knows who is who. The only way to find out is to read into what people are saying on the threads or if someone has done some investigating. And even then that sometimes doesn't work since people might be pulling your leg.

So once again, it all becomes a guessing game where everyone is a suspect even if you have sources that tell you otherwise.

It might sound confusing at first, but once you figure it out it becomes easy to play. Just have fun regardless of what people are saying in the threads.

As for my vote I am going to have to join the bandwagon and vote thatguy.

Things just get so confusing around here!
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: kraken613 on August 13, 2009, 08:03:43 PM
From everything I have read I think I have to vote thatguy.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: nickmitch on August 13, 2009, 08:43:22 PM
If thatguy's a townie, then we should all vote GP tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: vudu on August 13, 2009, 09:30:29 PM
Fine vudu. Then vote that guy. I'm doing it.

I'm not voting for thatguy.  He may be a dirty liar, but I don't see why he would pull such a pointless trick if he were mafia.  I think he's just a townie with delusions of grandeur.

Not that it really matters at this point.  Sorry thatguy!  Looks like you're history.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Mop it up on August 13, 2009, 10:33:44 PM
I'm also hesitant to play, I'm just watching and observing as people go. I'm sorry, I still don't really understand it.
Just vote for somebody and see what happens.

If thatguy's a townie, then we should all vote GP tomorrow.
And why is that exactly?
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Dasmos on August 13, 2009, 10:38:08 PM
I don't think thatguy is mafia, it's easy to pin **** on him cause he's so outspoken and the mafia weasels can get rid of a townie easily.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Mop it up on August 13, 2009, 10:41:57 PM
Who would you suggest then?
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: vudu on August 13, 2009, 10:42:56 PM
Who would you suggest then?

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaman siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiixty foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooour
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: that Baby guy on August 13, 2009, 10:46:20 PM
Why DAaaMan, though?  The erratic votes?

I'd be an idiot if I were mafia then just outed that lie for no reason.  The worst part of this?  The only person supporting me is the person I believe is in the mafia then most :/
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Mop it up on August 13, 2009, 10:47:33 PM
Thatguy currently has six votes. I don't know if there'd be enough time to change to somebody else.
Besides, I still don't trust Thatguy. Being stupid could just all be a part of his plan.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: nickmitch on August 13, 2009, 10:49:35 PM
Vudu and Mop make good suspects.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: that Baby guy on August 13, 2009, 10:54:01 PM
I wouldn't say I was being stupid, Mop_it_up.  You can't say I've been stupid when no one has found a mafia member yet. I had reason to believe Stogi was in the mafia.  The problem was that I ignored his reaction, and often, townies give up the fight when the vote turns against them, like he did, when he stopped posting halfway through the day.

What I ask is that the hawks watching to kill me give me one more chance.  Let me do some thinking, and if I don't find the right target tonight, you can ignore/kill me tomorrow.  Give me time to think, I've been out of town all day, and I'll pull up someone else to go with.  I'm not in the mafia.  What I did was a sure-fire way to get killed had I been in the mafia.  I had no way of knowing what the nullifier would do, but I hoped to encourage him/her to come out and call me out, so the doctor could keep him protected, and he could be a townie voice.  That's not what happened, and when I realized it wouldn't, and that nothing else good came from my bluff, I told the truth.

So give me a chance, and we'll see what we find.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: vudu on August 13, 2009, 10:56:24 PM
Why DAaaMan, though?  The erratic votes?

For the simple reason that he voted for you when you claimed to be the nullifer.  No experienced player would vote for a "verified" townie unless he was playing for other team.

Daaaman is gay.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Mop it up on August 13, 2009, 10:58:27 PM
I'm not giving you anything Thatguy. You've already made it clear you're a liar so I have no reason to believe anything you say.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Dasmos on August 13, 2009, 10:58:54 PM
Maybe he's the nullfier and didn't want to come forward outing thatguy for fear of being taken out by the mafia?

e: it's too late for thatguy, half of the people voting for him are mafia. even if he turns out to be mafia, they're probably still mafia and he told them to vote for him.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: that Baby guy on August 13, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
Actually, I have to agree with Dasmos, almost.  I've been trying to figure out who would target the people we've seen targeted, who's been in games, or seen games, where these players stood out enough to be hit, but also enough that it wouldn't be connected to them.  Someone who's seen the players killed perform excellently, but wasn't around for most of the games I was, where me, Vudu, and Spak often were key players.

The person who's seen Maxi, Stratos, and Pale perform well, I believe is Pap.  He's won on their team, and lost against them.  I don't have much other compelling evidence.  Barely any, at all.  All I can say is that Pap's taken a safe road this game, which is why this suggestion seems so far out there.  I could be completely wrong.  All I can go by is my gut.  That's what I've got, that's where I'm going, and that's how it is.  Sorry Pap, but that's what happens when I get desperate to find someone.

vote Pap64

And Mop_it_up, I went against you yesterday because of what Stratos believed.  Even though I can be deceptive, I know how hard it is to vote out a friend, oftentimes, Spak and I team up before a game starts, and agree not to vote each other until it comes down to it.  So for Stratos to say he thought you were guilty, that took a big step, so at first, I ran with him, and with that.  Can you blame me?

Edit:  I'm going to go now, since there's company over dying to play some Brawl, but once again, I'll post my "lists" since they might be helpful, even if I'm wrong, so everyone better understands my point of view.  Everyone but me on it is stated as "possible," and stevey is the only player where I always have trouble telling which side he's on, so he's not grouped with any guess.  The changes I made to it were this morning, and not taking into effect everything in the game.  Additionally, I didn't hold votes against me against the voter yesterday, since, well, there's someone out there who definitely had reason to mistrust me then.

Townie
thatguy

Stevey -

Possible Mafia
Vudu
Dasmos
Pap
Athena Asamiya
Kraken
Plugabugz -

Possible townie
DAaaMan
Spak
NickMitch
Mop_it_up
Golden Phoenix - Dixie Kong
Nickmitch - Funky Kong


Funny, again, that the people supporting me are people on the list as possible mafia members.  Just funny :D
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Mop it up on August 13, 2009, 11:23:25 PM
I blame you for Kashogi Y. Stogi. You used him to distract me from voting you out.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: nickmitch on August 13, 2009, 11:24:30 PM
The fact that I'm on the possible townie list twice cements the fact that I'm a townie.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: vudu on August 13, 2009, 11:38:20 PM
I've been trying to figure out who would target the people we've seen targeted, who's been in games, or seen games, where these players stood out enough to be hit, but also enough that it wouldn't be connected to them.  Someone who's seen the players killed perform excellently, but wasn't around for most of the games I was, where me, Vudu, and Spak often were key players.

Alternative theory:  If (please note the 'if') I was Godfather, I would avoid key players for the simple reason that they're the ones most likely to be protected by the doctor.  The mafia could just be targeting those who are least likely to be protected in order to avoid a possible failed night action.
Title: Re: Mafia XXXVI: Donkey Kong. Day 4. Frozen Frenzy.
Post by: Khushrenada on August 13, 2009, 11:58:06 PM
Guess I'll do a time check since no one is doing it for me in the Dead Thread.

And it's under two minutes. Will we see the greatest mafia vote switch in history?

EDIT: I guess not.

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