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Title: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on June 30, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
With the recent talk of "mature" games on Wii I was just curious how many games owned by people here are rated "M".
I own just one, The House of the Dead 2 and 3 Return. I have five games rated "T" and three rated "E10", the rest are all "E".
"M" rated titles are rarely the type of games I like to play.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 30, 2009, 11:34:10 PM
I own No More Heroes and maybe one or two other M-rated games at the moment. I owned Godfather and some others but sold them, so I'm not sure where to begin...
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: kraken613 on June 30, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
I own two but I bought them off a friend for $5 each. I actually just bought 12 games off my friend for $5 each.... I kinda ripped him off but he was just going to give them away when he sold his Wii! Doubled my collection for $60!
Those two are COD:WaW and RE4: Wii Edition. Then 9 "T" games and 3 "E10" and 16 "E" games.
Wow, that list is drastically different on my 360.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 30, 2009, 11:49:35 PM
7
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 30, 2009, 11:50:27 PM
Hmm let me see...
These are my E rated games. Mario Kart Wii,Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games,Elibits,Zack and Wiki,Samba De Amigo,ACCF,Wii Fit,Wii Music,Super Mario Galaxy.Excitebots:Trick racing,Mario Super Sluggers,Boom Blox.
E10:Sonic and The Black Knight and Punch Out!!
Teen:Trauma Center:Second Opinion,Red Steel,Castle of Shikigami 3,Tales of Symphonia:Dawn of the New World,Okami,SNK Arcade Classics Vol 1,Metroid Prime 3,The Conduit,SSBB,Zelda:TP.
M rated:Madworld,RE4:Wii Edition,Mortal Kombat Armageddon,No More Heroes,Resident Evil:Umbrella Chronicles.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 30, 2009, 11:52:50 PM
Manhunt 2 (only bought to support a GTA on Wii.... that turned out well) RE4 Wii (haven't played yet, but I beat the GC version... I'll get around to it eventually) HoTD: O (This one was worth the price of admission on the great "B" movie grindhouse story alone) MadWorld (didn't get into it... seemed very arcadey though, so I'm sure I'll pick it up again) No More Heroes (about 1/4 the way into the game, been meaning to get back to this, but got busy) RE: UC (I'm at about 85% done, but I just lost interest... moves too slow & its hard)
& I have about 21 other games
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 30, 2009, 11:53:41 PM
Wait, make that 8.
I'm such a casual gore gamer.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: kraken613 on June 30, 2009, 11:57:32 PM
Man I need to pick up No More Heroes. Wonder how cheap it is now. Would get RE:UC but I am not much into light gun shooters....
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 01, 2009, 12:05:41 AM
6 of my 44 Wii games (13.636%) are M rated. Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles, No More Heroes, Call of Duty: World at War, MadWorld, and Tenchu: Shadow Assassins.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: kraken613 on July 01, 2009, 12:13:49 AM
^ 44 Wii games!!!! Well not that many more than me I own 30...
6.66% of mine are "M".
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: RABicle on July 01, 2009, 01:09:03 AM
Wow are you guys ready for this? Prepare yourself.
HALF (14/28) of my Wii collection is rated M, MA or 16+ by PEGI for my couple of Euro games. Wiiware and VC not included.
Let's break it down and briefly discuss the Australian ratings system. MA15+ These games are restricted by law from sale to people under the age of 15 due to their content. That said I bought several MA15+ games as a 12 year as because shop keepers are clowns.
Resident Evil 4
- Medium level animated violence
House of the Dead Overkill
- Strong horror violence (no mention is made of it's frequent coarse language)
Madworld
- Strong bloody violence, strong course language
Technu
- Strong violence
M These games are recommended for mature audiences. It is not illegal to supply minors with M related material.
Okami
- Moderate sexual references, moderate fantasy (seriously)
Trauma Center Second Opinion
- Surgical procedures
Trauma Center New Blood
- Surgical procedures
Disaster: Day of Crisis
- Violence, themes and infrequent course language
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
- Moderate science fiction violence
Deadly Creature
- Violence
Zelda: Twilight Princess
- Moderate fantasy violence (First Zelda game to be rated M, all previous ones were G, PG or the now defunct G8+)
Battalion Wars II
- Moderate themes, moderate violence
No More Heroes
- Moderate violence, sexual references and coarse language
Tomb Raider Anniversary
- Moderate violence (Quick trivia, every single console Tomb Raider game had been rated M previously, which until recently was a rarely classified grey area except Tomb Raider Legend which was reclassified as PG 5 months after release. Tomb Raider Legend is of course the one that had an official downloadable costume which put Lara in a translucent bikini. Welcome to Australia)
Anyway so eitehr my ratings baord is soft or I'm just a true hardcore mature gamer while you guys are kiddies.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 01:31:28 AM
RABicle, it sounds like your "M" rating is the same as the ESRB's "T" (13+) rating. All of the games you mentioned except No More Heroes are rated "T" by the ESRB.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 01, 2009, 01:39:10 AM
RABicle comes in to unleash his Fist List.
It basically makes the distinction that in Australia, teens are mature. In Amerika, they're not.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: UncleBob on July 01, 2009, 02:06:40 AM
I'm the Nintendo Fan everyone hates. I own three third party games. Two of those I haven't even broken the seal on yet. But, of course, that wasn't the question... (although, since Nintendo hasn't made any M rated games, that really hurts the chances of me having any....) E - 16 E 10+ - 2 T - 4 (Obviously not including WiiWare/VC)
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 01, 2009, 02:33:34 AM
We have no M rating so I'll go for games rated 16 which is a number close enough to the 17 of the M rating.
5 out of 24: No More Heroes, Batallion Wars ii, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Metroid Prime 3, Red Steel (rated 18).
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 03:36:04 AM
Of the "M" rated games mentioned the only one which I'm interested in is Resident Evil 4, the reason being that I've never played a Resident Evil game. I've heard many people claim it is the best in the series so it seems like the one to get if I wanted to try one.
I'm the Nintendo Fan everyone hates. I own three third party games.
You mean because you rarely buy third-party games? I'm the same way. I don't see what's so wrong with that, I can't help it if Nintendo are the ones who create the types of games I like.
I can't say anything about that because those games were so excessively violent they weren't released here.
Mop bless America.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 03:53:29 AM
I currently own The Godfather, No More Heroes and Tenchu: Shadow Assassin.
I believe that is out of about 20 games. Is Force Unleashed T or M?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: stevey on July 01, 2009, 08:10:06 AM
0%
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: AV on July 01, 2009, 09:37:46 AM
Link's Crossbow Training T Metroid Prime 3 Corruption T The Conduit : Special Edition T Wii Sports E Super Mario Galaxy E Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition M New Play Control: Pikmin E Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles M Super Smash Bros Brawl T
So 22% mature 44% Teen
I did own Madworld and No More Heroes but they got traded in a whiles ago.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: EasyCure on July 01, 2009, 12:04:45 PM
RABicle, it sounds like your "M" rating is the same as the ESRB's "T" (13+) rating. All of the games you mentioned except No More Heroes are rated "T" by the ESRB.
Yeah I noticed that although we have games here rated PG (formerly G8+) that you guys have rated T. Smash Bros, Links Crossbow Training and many more of your T games are PG here. A lot of it has to do with different values our societies hold, for example any gambling instantly gets a game a PG here, hence why Pokémon and often, Mario games are rated PG alongside the likes of Tomb Raider Legend. If Disaster Day of Fist was released in America it would probably get an M, Americans seem more offended by swearing. Here, Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy) has it's sex scene fall under MA15+ while Fallout 3 was initially refused classification (banned) because real drugs were seen to give positive in game effects. You guys got a censored version of Fahrenheit but even games like Mark Ecco's Getting Up aren't banned.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 03:16:37 PM
So it was Australia that refussed classification of Fallout 3. I was thinking it was the UK in a different thread.
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No More Heroes - Moderate violence, sexual references and coarse language
Moderate violence?
Or did that region's version also have no blood, only money flowing out of defeated enemies? I could understand it then.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2009, 03:22:05 PM
50%, but that's mainly because I only still own 4 Wii games: Fire Emblem - Radiant Dawn; Resident Evil 4 Wii; Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles; and Legend of Zelda - Twilight Princess. I've owned other games in the past (Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, No More Heroes, HotD: O, Madworld, Zack & Wiki, Metroid Prime 3, etc.), but they've never managed to prove themselves worthy of being kept whenever I've needed trade-in credit for some other game (or they're getting new releases very soon).
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 03:31:33 PM
Yay! A fellow Fire Emblem fan! I love that game even if I've yet to beat it.
Looks like 5 if you include the ones you used to have. 5/11 so close to half unless there are a whole lot you didn't list.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
Yay! A fellow Fire Emblem fan! I love that game even if I've yet to beat it.
Looks like 5 if you include the ones you used to have. 5/11 so close to half unless there are a whole lot you didn't list.
Well, I did very briefly own Alone in the Dark (Wii) and Oopona before I traded both in due to them being utter garbage, but I think those are the only 2 I left out.
EDIT: Damn, how could I forget I still own Smash Bros Brawl? Man, having my Wii loaned out to my best friend for the last 5 months really did a number on my memory.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 04:13:31 PM
No wonder you don't join us in the Wi-Fi nights.
I was beginning to think you hated us ;)
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2009, 04:41:37 PM
Nah, my Wii just hadn't been seeing any use since I got my PS2 (and later upgraded to PS3), so I've had it loaned out to someone who will actually play it. Besides, even when I had it I was always working on the Wi-Fi nights. Well, that and my not playing these games in so long means I'm pretty rusty.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 05:55:51 PM
And selling the best online games kind of puts a damper on things too.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2009, 07:46:19 PM
And selling the best online games kind of puts a damper on things too.
I still own Smash Bros., but I really don't care about online in general. Leaderboards, online guilds, and all that jazz (yeah, you see what I did there) are for people who care way more about their size of their internet ****s than I do. But yeah, Smash Bros. aside I don't really have a game in my collection that can spawn the almost-party atmosphere that Goldeneye or Perfect Dark could in their days. So when I finish a game, I tend to be done with it permanently unless it truly is that memorable. That's tended to make my Wii library rather expendable.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 07:48:28 PM
Like I said, you sold the good online games.
ZING!
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2009, 07:49:56 PM
I only had one game in that list who had a good online component (Mario Kart). Metroid Prime 3's was more of a needlesly-complex unlock code, and I'll be buying that one again later with the Collection.
ZING! ;)
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 07:53:01 PM
Well you said "etc" so I thought maybe you had others.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2009, 08:05:06 PM
Well you said "etc" so I thought maybe you had others.
The 3 I hadn't mentioned were Opoona, Alone in the Dark, and Smash Bros. Brawl. I mentioned them a few posts after my initial. The first two were so insubstantial and outright bad that I didn't consider them worth mentioning. I just plain forgot the latter.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 09:27:06 PM
Hey, Broodwars, I heard Opoona was a decent RPG for a younger person. I have a little sister who is 10 going on 11 that I've been thinking about getting that for. She likes the Pokemon RPGs, the Paper Marios and Super Mario RPG. Would you say this is a good RPG for someone like that?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 01, 2009, 09:53:13 PM
Hey, Broodwars, I heard Opoona was a decent RPG for a younger person. I have a little sister who is 10 going on 11 that I've been thinking about getting that for. She likes the Pokemon RPGs, the Paper Marios and Super Mario RPG. Would you say this is a good RPG for someone like that?
Here's the wierd thing about Opoona: the aesthetics and controls are clearly designed for a younger audience, but parodoxically is probably too convoluted and old-fashioned for them to enjoy. I think she could play it, and maybe enjoy it. The things is, the environments are very poorly designed (I got lost frequently in the first "town", which is designed like a shopping mall with multiple levels and multiple passages and elevators to get to each level) and the combat requires a fair amount of tedious grinding. I also have a lot of issues with the game's story, which is practically extolling the virtues of being a child slave to an overlord state. The game's crap. Too simple for adults and too badly-designed for kids. You'd be better off getting her to play something like Skies of Arcadia Legends or better yet Chrono Trigger. If you're feeling particularly adventurous, try her out on one of the Baten Kaitos games (particularly Origins) or Tales of Symphonia (the first one, not the Wii sequel). She'll get a lot more enjoyment out of it.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 01, 2009, 10:14:36 PM
The only M rated game I have is Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition. To be fair though, I don't have a job and thus can't buy many video games anyways.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: BwrJim! on July 02, 2009, 11:44:21 AM
How about this for an answer.. I enjoy all genres of games and so they are all rated M, becuase they are all mine...
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 02, 2009, 12:38:24 PM
I don't have any M rated Wii games. But that's not an indication of the types of games I like to play but merely the types of games on the Wii. The best Wii games are first party titles and I think ALL of those are not M.
But I wouldn't classify a game as "mature" based on the rating. "Mature" isn't really the ideal word anyway but I would consider that type of game as the kind that doesn't appear to intentionally cater towards children. Doesn't make a game that does bad but you can tell. Metroid Prime 3 is suitable for children but clearly isn't intentionally trying to appeal to them. Super Mario Galaxy is very enjoyable for adults but the style is clearly intentionally trying to appeal to children.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 02, 2009, 12:46:17 PM
RE4 is one of the best Wii games. Why don't you have it?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 02, 2009, 12:48:19 PM
I think I'll trade in Super Paper Mario cuz it's too boring to continue after all these years. Then I'll have credit to buy another M-rated Wii game, if there's any good ones left.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: BwrJim! on July 02, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
ohhh nega-daisy... I have a lot, but you know what game really brought me into the sandbox games, The Godfather on Wii. That was fun. almost, too much fun.. uh oh, do i need to see a shrink now?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 02, 2009, 01:34:43 PM
I traded in The Godfather after I realized the setting/atmosphere looked awful in a choppy PS2-port low-definition Wii game. I can only absorb that time period thru Indiana Jones and The Rocketeer.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 02, 2009, 01:49:39 PM
RE4 is one of the best Wii games. Why don't you have it?
No, RE4 is one of the best GAMECUBE games. My friend has it and I've been meaning to borrow it but keep forgetting to ask him.
It's also on the PS2. The problem with the GC version is its missing content that was later added to the PS2 version. The Wii version is the one to have, because it includes this content, plus it has the better gamecube quality graphics plus an improved control method which makes the game a lot more fun.
You can play it on the PS2 or GC, but the Wii version is the best and ultimate version of all. If you don't mind missing out on the extra content, better graphics, and improved control method then by all means go and play your GC version, but you will be missing out.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 02, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
RE4 is one of the best Wii games. Why don't you have it?
No, RE4 is one of the best GAMECUBE games. My friend has it and I've been meaning to borrow it but keep forgetting to ask him.
It's also on the PS2. The problem with the GC version is its missing content that was later added to the PS2 version. The Wii version is the one to have, because it includes this content, plus it has the better gamecube quality graphics plus an improved control method which makes the game a lot more fun.
You can play it on the PS2 or GC, but the Wii version is the best and ultimate version of all. If you don't mind missing out on the extra content, better graphics, and improved control method then by all means go and play your GC version, but you will be missing out.
Yeah, my only problem with the Wii version of RE4 is that the graphics take a lot of getting used to on my HD TV. Oddly enough, the game looked fine when it was hooked up on the GameCube with composite cables, but on the Wii with component cables the game looks awful until you get used to it.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 02, 2009, 10:47:23 PM
Then why not try your Wii Composite cables?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: broodwars on July 02, 2009, 10:52:35 PM
Because I don't want my general Wii graphics looking even more like **** than they already do. (j/k)
Seriously, it's a royal hassle to swap out cables with my current setup, and RE4's graphics are only really an issue for like the first 30 minutes - 1 hour of playing the game on Wii. After that, I've found my eyes just adjust and everyone looks fine again. I've seen similar things playing old PS1 games lately on my PS3. You just get used to it and move on, but it is a bit of a surprise when you first boot the game up to see some surprisingly noticeable aliasing.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Caliban on July 02, 2009, 10:55:35 PM
RE4 for Wii is well known to be a shoddy port, graphically speaking of course. Component? Composite? Irrelevant.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 03, 2009, 12:32:16 AM
RE4 for Wii is well known to be a shoddy port, graphically speaking of course. Component? Composite? Irrelevant.
This is honestly the first time I have heard this. What's so bad about it? Are you saying it is a ported PS2 version and not the GC version?
Also, while on the matter, I've seen some pretty cheap composite cables in some places for Wii, but are they good quality? Is quality an issue? I want to get some. Also, will I have to switch them out to play certain games?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 03, 2009, 12:41:11 AM
I need to look into getting first party Wii component cables. I got third party ones once, but they sucked ass and actually did make my Wii games look worse than they had with composite. My games suddenly had tons of jaggies and were blurry.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 03, 2009, 12:41:55 AM
How much are the Nintendo brand ones? I'm almost afraid to ask.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 03, 2009, 01:24:28 AM
The Nintendo-branded component cable is $30 but I'm sure you could find a deal if you looked around. It isn't something that you need to buy new either so that is a plus. I got mine from eBay for $15, they were actually new but without the box.
I don't have a progressive scan-compatible television so I can't say whether or not using 480p makes some games look worse. But switching between 480i and 480p is an option in the Wii menu so you can just turn it off if it does happen to make some games look worse. Even without it though, it definitely makes a difference, I was surprised I was able to see it. The picture is sharper and the colours are more bold with less bleeding.
It is definitely worth getting some.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 03, 2009, 02:25:56 AM
I recommend Nyko.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Caliban on July 03, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
RE4 for Wii is well known to be a shoddy port, graphically speaking of course. Component? Composite? Irrelevant.
This is honestly the first time I have heard this. What's so bad about it? Are you saying it is a ported PS2 version and not the GC version?
We had a small discussion about this in one of the RE4 Wii threads. What I still think is that the original resolution of RE4 GC is stretched for RE4 Wii, instead of having the Wii rendering a bigger viewing frame to accommodate for a higher pixel count.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: EasyCure on July 03, 2009, 11:56:13 AM
ohhh nega-daisy... I have a lot, but you know what game really brought me into the sandbox games, The Godfather on Wii. That was fun. almost, too much fun.. uh oh, do i need to see a shrink now?
Same thing happened for me during my time with the game, and even after finishing it. It happened all over again once i completed Scarface Wii, which i actually enjoyed more than Godfather. Then again i have a bias towards Scarface cuz of the soundtrack; there nothing like avoiding the police thru miami streets with happy go lucky 80s music on my custom playlists :)
The scary part is, since i already had a lot of that music on my ipod and listen to it in the car, if one of the songs from the games soundtrack came on, i'd wanna do all the little things i found fun in Scarface like speed in and out thru traffic, pull off jacknife turns and shout obsceneties to strangers lol
Every now and again i tell myself "man, i gotta get another tiger"
Oh, and to get back on topic these are the M rated games i have in my collection (off the top of my head, so i might be missing a few)
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles Godfather Scarface Manhunt 2 (same reason as someone on the first page, to try and get rockstar support on Wii. Oh well)
I feel like theres one more but i can't think of it..
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Morari on July 03, 2009, 12:13:40 PM
ohhh nega-daisy... I have a lot, but you know what game really brought me into the sandbox games, The Godfather on Wii. That was fun. almost, too much fun.. uh oh, do i need to see a shrink now?
Same thing happened for me during my time with the game, and even after finishing it. It happened all over again once i completed Scarface Wii, which i actually enjoyed more than Godfather. Then again i have a bias towards Scarface cuz of the soundtrack; there nothing like avoiding the police thru miami streets with happy go lucky 80s music on my custom playlists :)
I loved Godfather. I think it is technically my first sandbox game unless you count No More Heroes. I really want to grab Scarface. And I'm pouty that Godfather 2 is not getting a Wii version. What happened to EA supporting Wii "With 50% of their games"? It sold close to enough to break even and better than some versions did. Plust all the Wii specific controls were perfect.
RE4 for Wii is well known to be a shoddy port, graphically speaking of course. Component? Composite? Irrelevant.
This is honestly the first time I have heard this. What's so bad about it? Are you saying it is a ported PS2 version and not the GC version?
We had a small discussion about this in one of the RE4 Wii threads. What I still think is that the original resolution of RE4 GC is stretched for RE4 Wii, instead of having the Wii rendering a bigger viewing frame to accommodate for a higher pixel count.
I proved that a long time ago.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 06, 2009, 01:15:35 AM
I just hope they don't give a game aspects which cause it to get an M-rating just for the sake of it. An example of this is TimeSplitters Future Perfect. Unlike the first two games it has blood in it, which earned it an M-rating instead of a T-rating. The blood doesn't make the game any better, and all the M-rating does is limit its appeal.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 06, 2009, 12:36:56 PM
More blood than Conduit?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: GK on July 06, 2009, 12:48:05 PM
M rated Wii games? Hmm only one I still have is Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles. I used to have Call of Duty: WaW but ditched it.
Oh yeah & OneChanbara: Bikini Zombie Slayers. Forgot about that one since I got tired of it within a week.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Peachylala on July 06, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
I have:
RE: Umbrella Rails Sin City MadWorld Tenchu 4
Quote from: Mop it up
An example of this is TimeSplitters Future Perfect. Unlike the first two games it has blood in it, which earned it an M-rating instead of a T-rating. The blood doesn't make the game any better, and all the M-rating does is limit its appeal.
Did Perfect Dark for the N64 sell enough copies to be considered a success in the same vein as Goldeneye? It was more violent then Goldeneye in terms of blood.
On TimeSplitters: FP. The M rating didn't really limit it's appeal. EA didn't market it worth ****, ruining the game's chances of success.
An ERSB rating means jack to me. If the game is well made and FUN, then it deserves my spending dollars.
Gamers who only buy M rated games to look "cool" are deluding themselves. Playing a video game of ANY kind still makes you a nerd (of sorts).
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Ghisy on July 06, 2009, 06:07:20 PM
I have 6 M rated-games (out of 32 games) so that's about 19%:
- Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition - Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles - MadWorld - The House of The Dead: Overkill - OneChanbara: Bikini Zombie Slayers - No More Heroes
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 06, 2009, 06:14:48 PM
Looks like I'm still winning.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 06, 2009, 07:04:00 PM
Did Perfect Dark for the N64 sell enough copies to be considered a success in the same vein as Goldeneye? It was more violent then Goldeneye in terms of blood.
Perfect Dark wasn't a sequel so it doesn't really apply to the example I gave.
On TimeSplitters: FP. The M rating didn't really limit it's appeal.
Yes it did. Since the first two games have a "T" rating then there could be a portion of its fans who were still too young to purchase "M" rated games.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Stratos on July 06, 2009, 09:12:55 PM
Perfect Dark was a spiritual sequel. It used the same engine and had similar controls and features. It may not have been a canonical sequel, but it was a sequel gameplay wise.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 06, 2009, 09:50:40 PM
It doesn't matter though because that isn't my point. Perfect Dark has a reason to be violent other than for the sake of just being violent: it was striving for realism. The TimeSplitters games are more fantastical and the first two worked just fine without blood, there was no reason to add it to Future Perfect other than to give it an "M" rating and make it seem "cool" or some such nonsense.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Peachylala on July 06, 2009, 11:49:12 PM
GTA was sold to kiddies below that age, so to me the arguement that TimeSpliters 3 lost out due to it's rating is kind of mute.
Maybe the fanbase no longer cared?
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Mop it up on July 07, 2009, 12:39:48 AM
It didn't make the game better. I didn't like the change.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: ThePerm on July 07, 2009, 01:35:32 AM
when i was working at an elementary school all the kids would talk about how they played gta...i used to play doom as a kid, but in comparison i still think gta is messed up at times..not for the kiddies IMO. I didn't get to beat up hookers back in my day, but i did make the strippers flash me in duke nukem.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: EasyCure on July 07, 2009, 10:47:37 AM
when i was working at an elementary school all the kids would talk about how they played gta...i used to play doom as a kid, but in comparison i still think gta is messed up at times..not for the kiddies IMO. I didn't get to beat up hookers back in my day, but i did make the strippers flash me in duke nukem.
It's a hard point to argue, IMO. When we were growing up we had our 'mature' games like Mortal Kombat and Doom but because of the limits to graphical power, things weren't don't appear to be as violent as compared to GTA NOW. Back then, though, that stuff was pretty extreme and yet we still had to use our imagination to fill in the blanks. Today kids are growing up playing more realistic, and thus more realisticaly violent games. There's not much to imagine, its all put there in front of you.
Sorry that was a random thought.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2009, 04:12:24 PM
Yeah, I could certainly live without the graphic cutting of people in Prototype...
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: EasyCure on July 07, 2009, 04:16:34 PM
Yeah, I could certainly live without the graphic cutting of people in Prototype...
In Personal experience... Most of my friends feel they need the graphic violence. I find that it is over the top, and makes a game less appealing..
They need the violence? Are they getting a high off of it or something? I think those arguments are odd :/
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 07, 2009, 07:15:21 PM
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i used to play doom as a kid, but in comparison i still think gta is messed up at times
As a kid I used to argue that Doom was not only not immoral but actually morally good and just with strong Christian values. You're in hell fighting against demons! Come on! If someone did that in real life they would be a candidate for sainthood! This arguement didn't go over well with those that associate the mere presence of demonic imagery as satanic. The fact that Satan is the ENEMY in the game is never noticed. I used a similar arguement for Wolfenstein as fighting against Nazis is heroic when Indiana Jones does it but put it a swastika in a videogame and everyone thinks it's pro-Nazi.
But something like GTA depicts criminal activity. It goes beyond just violence and actually provides a situation where to succeed in the game the player must perform immoral acts. I can and will defend it as freedom of expression and don't think there's enough proof to suggest that a game like that causes any crimes. But I can't defend the content itself as morally sound. The game rewards evil behaviour. Complaining about THAT makes a whole lot more sense than complaining about blood or nudity, neither of which can logically be considered good or bad without context. If you're going to call for a ban on any videogame content the only one that would make any sense would be content that rewards or is neutral towards the abuse of innocent victims. So GTA would be no good but Resident Evil would be fine since, despite it's gorey content, everyone you kill is very obviously trying to kill you. Murder vs. lethal self-defence.
Title: Re: Percentage of your Wii collection that's rated M.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2009, 04:08:22 AM
Heh, now how would we judge Prototype in that context... You aren't encouraged to kill innocents at random (no EP reward, anything evil gives EP rewards) but your character can gain health by absorbing them. You can decide not to do that and only eat the zombies and soldiers who are after you (and both plotting genocide) but that leaves you with fewer food sources if **** hits the fan. Your attacks tend to have AOE so you have to aim carefully if you want to avoid civilian casualties but again the game doesn't care what you do to civilians, it keeps track of how many you kill but that's it. On the other hand you can decide to be reckless and activate massive AOE attacks in the middle of crowds to pick out the few soldiers that are mixed in, you can decide to plow across the sidewalk in a tank, running people over by the dozen, you can decide to eat them for health (though that sets your disguise to civilian which is less helpful than a military disguise) or you can even decide to pull random **** like hurling yourself off a skyscraper into an elbow smash onto some bystander for absolutely no reason except lulz or aiming thermobaric missiles at crowds.
IIRC none of the missions in Prototype require you to attack civilians so your treatment of them is purely a mirror of your own personality... Is this game immoral?
