Post by: Yoshidious on April 26, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
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Episode 143: Standard Deviation
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Jonny couldn't join us for this episode, so Greg sits in as host and Nick DiMola joins the rest of the RFN crew to share his early thoughts on Excitebots: Trick Racing ahead of his review. Also in New Business: James ventures deeper into red-and-black virtual reality with Wario Land, Greg discovers how many more VC Arcade games the Japanese market already has than everywhere else, and Jon re-enters the workforce with his backlog of unfinished game reviews still intact.
Listener mail gives everyone a chance to express their disbelief at both the omission of SD card music support for Excitebots and the very existence of Billy Mitchell before heading into the news. Following some musing on sales numbers, the Wii MotionPlus/Sports Resort launch schedule and new Punch-Out!! details, we close things out by indulging in what we do best (or at least most): baseless speculation about future Nintendo titles!
Don't forget, the fifth RetroActive feature title is the (in)famously uncompromising Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts, but don't be afraid to join in with the discussion on our forums because your comments could appear among our war stories in Episode 144.
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Post by: AV on April 26, 2009, 04:12:29 PM
Angry Video Game Nerd Virtual Boy (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30755.html)
;D :D :P :P
Space harrier video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOH68OsvOEI)
and
Starblade video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPCOX5j6cgc)
Post by: Plugabugz on April 26, 2009, 05:03:06 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 26, 2009, 05:34:25 PM
Post by: Crimm on April 26, 2009, 11:34:25 PM
It's always exciting to download an RFN that I haven't heard yet.
PREPARE TO BE LETDOWN
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 27, 2009, 07:43:10 AM
Post by: Plugabugz on April 27, 2009, 09:40:10 AM
It's always exciting to download an RFN that I haven't heard yet.
PREPARE TO BE LETDOWN
*patiently waits for Kid Icarus Party*
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 27, 2009, 07:15:00 PM
Post by: yoshi1001 on April 27, 2009, 08:55:40 PM
One other possibility for the "mystery game"-I don't know if they could improve the controls enough from the WiiMote scheme, but a DS Smash Bros. game would certainly shake things up for the holiday season. Hey, I can dream, can't I?
By the way, it took 17 years for Nintendo to fix the Power Glove with the WiiMote, so we should have a working Virtual Boy successor in 2012.
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 27, 2009, 09:37:38 PM
Regarding the game Nintendo wants GameStop to hold space for. I pretty much agree that the only thing I can really see it being (if Nintendo really did tell them it's a core game) is the new Mario or Zelda Wii games. These two teams have been working for quite some time.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 28, 2009, 02:18:51 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 28, 2009, 07:58:41 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2009, 03:05:20 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 28, 2009, 06:25:30 PM
Post by: Yoshidious on April 28, 2009, 06:35:05 PM
So did you not get my listener mail or was it just too awful to read?
Could you tell us what your email was about? I'm not sure whether we would have received it or not just from looking through old messages.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 28, 2009, 07:28:08 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2009, 08:54:50 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 28, 2009, 08:59:35 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2009, 09:03:28 PM
Yeah, if New Super Mario Bros. hasn't gotten a sequel because it continues to sell I don't see why they'd make a new Wii Fit when the original has been in the NPD top 10 every month since its launch.
Also Nintendo has set kind of a precedent of releasing two or three titles in the Wii series. Right now we only know of one, Wii Sports Resort. Last year it was Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Music. They space them out to be about 4 months apart.
Post by: Mop it up on April 28, 2009, 09:23:20 PM
Last year it was Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Music.I'm not sure if you're talking about a different region, but in North America Wii Play was released in February of 2007, over a year before Wii Fit.
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 28, 2009, 09:28:35 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2009, 09:36:22 PM
Last year it was Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Music.I'm not sure if you're talking about a different region, but in North America Wii Play was released in February of 2007, over a year before Wii Fit.
Oops my bad! Lol guess I'm still in shock over Wii Play still being in the top 10. ;)
Also if that comment about saving shelf space is true, who says it is necessarily a 1st party game? It could be a massive 3rd party franchise that will be announced for the holidays at E3. Nintendo gets a lot of flak for holding this stuff close to their chest but it seems to be a growing trned for companies to keep games close to their chest until 4-6 months before release. We hardly know of anything truly exciting coming out this winter for any console.
Post by: Mop it up on April 28, 2009, 09:43:58 PM
I wonder if North America will ever get Wii Chess? Europe got it as a retail game, then it came out in Japan as a WiiWare game. I hope Nintendo releases it here either as a retail game or WiiWare game (the reviews made it seem like a pretty decent game).I actually do think this will hit North America eventually, perhaps late this year. My guess would be that it will be WiiWare since it likely won't be all that popular, but I guess you never know.
Oops my bad! Lol guess I'm still in shock over Wii Play still being in the top 10. ;)That is pretty crazy, though we all know it sells because of the Wiimote. I'm sure some people who bought it didn't want the game, but had no choice because there were times when stores had no Wiimotes in stock but plenty of Wii Play.
Post by: Crimm on April 28, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
Even if Billy is made out to be more of a bad guy than he is, he's still a cartoon character.
Coming from James "Wormhead" Jones that is a devastating statement. ;) j/k
Post by: Yoshidious on April 29, 2009, 03:51:53 AM
I sent it a couple weeks ago so it might have gotten lost. It was about whether the storage solution had made any of you go back and pick up any VC or WiiWare games you may have passed on to avoid cleaning the fridge.
Thanks, I think we did get that and it just got lost in the shuffle a bit, it's a good question so I expect we shall use it soon.
Regarding the speculation on Nintendo's holiday game, the actual quote from the Gamestop executive was:
"We think there will be a Nintendo key property coming out by the end of the year," said DeMatteo in an interview with CNBC, "They haven't given us any insight, but they have told us to reserve [shelf] space."
This suggested to me a pre-existing first party franchise that's more of a commercial power house than say Pikmin or certainly Star Fox, F-Zero and the like, but of course it's open to a so many interpretations, hence the frivolous nature of how we discussed it on the show.
It does seem early for a Wii Fit follow-up given its continuing success, but there are reasons to suspect that's more likely than a New Super Mario Bros. sequel. Firstly, we've seen Nintendo release more titles in their successful non-traditional brands before - More Brain Training, Nintendogs Best Friends - pretty quickly (Nintendogs Wii is something we didn't talk about, but that is a possibility as well I guess). Also, I think with some sort of add-on disc for Wii Fit, the development costs would be pretty slim considering most of the development on the original game would have been designing and learning to use the Balance Board. Now they can get straight into designing more exercises, workouts, mini-games etc. with a minimum of fuss, and have something like 15million consumers worldwide to sell that to.
With something like a New Super Mario Bros., the level of creative resources involved (even if the graphics engine remained identical) in designing a Mario game that's up to par makes it much more of a significant undertaking, and so they may be more content to watch the original continue to fly off the shelves.
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 29, 2009, 03:48:00 PM
Post by: Yoshidious on April 29, 2009, 04:23:37 PM
Obviously in the case of some sort of expansion disc for Wii Fit for instance, you're talking about much more significant development resources being required than a simple re-labelling job. Nevertheless, I would still venture it would be much less of an undertaking than making a whole new 2D Mario game, and so is a more likely prospect than a New SMB sequel in the face of enduringly robust sales of the original game--to answer Insanolord's earlier point.
Also, a Wii Fit expansion pack would be a complimentary purchase for Wii Fit owners in a way that a straight sequel or alternate version of a game simply cannot manage, and so there would not be any particular basis for concern that it would cannibalise sales of the original--everyone will still need a Balance Board after all.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 29, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
Yes, Wii Fit 2 is considerably easier to make than New Super Mario Bros. 2, but the original is a year old instead of 3 like NSMB, and is consistently in the top 5 of the NPD instead of the top 20; there's a lot more potential sales of the original at risk than in NSMB's case.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 30, 2009, 08:31:50 PM
Post by: Crimm on April 30, 2009, 11:13:04 PM
I think there should be a podcast where James can't say anything negative. If he did, he'd be forced to play the last Mystery Dungeon game from beginning to end three times.
If I did that it would be boring.
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on May 01, 2009, 07:37:32 AM
Don't remember what the other one was.
Oh, and the "Billy Mitchell is a character from the Office" quote made me laugh, so I tweeted it. That's right, Tweet.
Post by: TJ Spyke on May 01, 2009, 03:41:29 PM
Post by: D_Average on May 01, 2009, 06:31:25 PM
The difference is that Billy Mitchell is entertaining, The Office (both the US and UK versions) are not funny and are crap. That's why it didn't surprise me that Ricky Gervais (creator of the UK version) also wrote and guest starred in the WORST episode of The Simpsons ever ("Homer Simpson, This is Your Wife")
To be fair, The UK Office is the shiznit
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 01, 2009, 07:52:12 PM
The difference is that Billy Mitchell is entertaining, The Office (both the US and UK versions) are not funny and are crap. That's why it didn't surprise me that Ricky Gervais (creator of the UK version) also wrote and guest starred in the WORST episode of The Simpsons ever ("Homer Simpson, This is Your Wife")
To be fair, The UK Office is the shiznit
Also, the US Office is pretty good and that isn't the worst episode of The Simpsons.
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on May 01, 2009, 10:21:32 PM
The Office (both the US and UK versions) are not funny and are crap.
Also, you are wrong.
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 01, 2009, 10:44:02 PM
The Office (both the US and UK versions) are not funny and are crap.
Also, you are wrong.
Post by: vudu on May 07, 2009, 08:16:32 PM
Also, (and this is none of my damn business, but I'm surprised it hasn't been asked yet) what happened to Jonny that prevented him from being on the show? Greg made it seem like something serious had happened. I hope everything's okay with his nephew.
(Maybe I'm the only one who didn't have the good sense to mind my own business.)
Post by: NovaQ on May 07, 2009, 08:49:10 PM
Also, (and this is none of my damn business, but I'm surprised it hasn't been asked yet) what happened to Jonny that prevented him from being on the show? Greg made it seem like something serious had happened. I hope everything's okay with his nephew.
(Maybe I'm the only one who didn't have the good sense to mind my own business.)
No, I was wondering about that, too. It may be none of our business, and I'm fine with a response from Jonny or Greg stating just that. But Jonny, know that we wish whatever is going on smooths itself out soon! (And that's not because I think Greg is a bad host, which he isn't.)
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on May 08, 2009, 06:01:01 AM
Post by: Sundoulos on May 08, 2009, 11:05:33 AM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 08, 2009, 05:24:07 PM
My guess for the big holiday game that Nintendo "warned" GameStop about is whatever Retro Studios is working on (hopefully an original IP). It'll be well over 2 years since Metroid Prime 3 came out and a quality FPS for Wii made by Nintendo will definitely be something that your average GameStop customer will be excited about.
At this point I hope what Retro's doing isn't a FPS. We've already got The Conduit and Red Steel 2 coming this year, as well as maybe Modern Warfare 2 and anything else that may come out of E3 (I'm still holding out for TimeSplitters 4). While I'm sure Retro would do an excellent job, the FPS genre is covered this year on the Wii.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 08, 2009, 05:28:05 PM
My guess for the big holiday game that Nintendo "warned" GameStop about is whatever Retro Studios is working on (hopefully an original IP). It'll be well over 2 years since Metroid Prime 3 came out and a quality FPS for Wii made by Nintendo will definitely be something that your average GameStop customer will be excited about.
At this point I hope what Retro's doing isn't a FPS. We've already got The Conduit and Red Steel 2 coming this year, as well as maybe Modern Warfare 2 and anything else that may come out of E3 (I'm still holding out for TimeSplitters 4). While I'm sure Retro would do an excellent job, the FPS genre is covered this year on the Wii.
Yeah Retro needs to finish their Car Combat game.
Post by: Stratos on May 08, 2009, 05:34:24 PM
My guess for the big holiday game that Nintendo "warned" GameStop about is whatever Retro Studios is working on (hopefully an original IP). It'll be well over 2 years since Metroid Prime 3 came out and a quality FPS for Wii made by Nintendo will definitely be something that your average GameStop customer will be excited about.
At this point I hope what Retro's doing isn't a FPS. We've already got The Conduit and Red Steel 2 coming this year, as well as maybe Modern Warfare 2 and anything else that may come out of E3 (I'm still holding out for TimeSplitters 4). While I'm sure Retro would do an excellent job, the FPS genre is covered this year on the Wii.
Yeah Retro needs to finish their Car Combat game.
And Raven Blade. That was the most interesting of their other work to me.
Sorry to hear about the death, Jonny. It's a tough thing to go through and I hope it didn't cast an overbearing shadow on the wedding.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 08, 2009, 05:56:26 PM
I want Retro to do something brand-new. Maybe an action game that's like Bionic Commando.
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 08, 2009, 07:02:33 PM
The Office just isn't that funny.
How can I follow a leader who doesn't appreciate The Office? I might have to quit the site :'(
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 08, 2009, 07:09:10 PM
The Office just isn't that funny.
How can I follow a leader who doesn't appreciate The Office? I might have to quit the site :'(
I agree with Lindy the Office is dum so I can take your position. I am actually enjoying Better off Ted though which will probably be cancelled after 6 episodes or so. :(
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 09, 2009, 01:00:43 AM
How can I follow a leader who doesn't appreciate The Office? I might have to quit the site :'(
hahaha. I want to like it, it's just that every time I watch it I wind up disappointed. Like it should be funnier than it is.
Post by: ShyGuy on May 09, 2009, 04:24:36 AM
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 09, 2009, 11:23:15 AM
How can I follow a leader who doesn't appreciate The Office? I might have to quit the site :'(
hahaha. I want to like it, it's just that every time I watch it I wind up disappointed. Like it should be funnier than it is.
It's one of those shows you really need to see from the first episode onward. Lots of repeating inside jokes, and lots of character/story development that you'll miss if you haven't seen them all.
I didn't like the show at first and then one day decided to borrow a friend's DVDs and start watching them from the beginning. Total 180 on how I felt about the show. It has become Chessa and I's Thursday night ritual.
The Office is amazing. Remember when Pam and Jim got together?
Yes.
Remember when Dwight pepper sprayed Andy?
Wait a second, didn't he pepper spray Roy?
Remember when Meredith caught her hair on fire?
lol, yes. How about casual Friday?
Post by: ShyGuy on May 09, 2009, 02:32:27 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 09, 2009, 02:37:11 PM
Post by: Stratos on May 10, 2009, 07:46:47 PM
DERAILING A RFN THREAD IS A BANNABLE OFFENSE! >:(
Except your not a mod anymore so you can't say that. You could be banned now, too. HA! ;)
I say let it go. It's an older thread and I think most people have gotten their use out of it. I like to think of it like when the big kids leave the play ground so the little ones get to run out and do whatever they want there before dinner.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 11, 2009, 05:05:13 PM
I formed my opinion of The Office after watching all of Season 1 on DVD. Nothing I've seen since has changed my mind. By the end of Season 1 I was pretty bored. Not saying it didn't have some LOL moments, but man do they ride Carrell's character into the ground.
Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 05:30:54 PM
I endorse this derailing. ;-)
And this is why I like you as the director of the site :)
I find the office is more enjoyable in a group setting because you tend to loosen up when a lot of other people are laughing too. It has high moments and low moments for me, no in between room.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 11, 2009, 05:32:31 PM
Quote
I endorse this derailing. ;-)
Rule breaking has been OKed by Lindy Luthor.
Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 05:38:13 PM
QuoteI endorse this derailing. ;-)
Rule breaking has been OKed by Lindy Luthor.
And the student hall monitor has been reprimanded for being too harsh and needlessly tattling :P ;)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 12, 2009, 10:28:17 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 12, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
Well, I don't see anyone trying to rerail the thread, so what the heck.
Greg is the greatest temporary host in the UNIVERSE.
RERAILED
Post by: Yoshidious on May 12, 2009, 01:55:39 PM
Post by: Stratos on May 12, 2009, 02:23:10 PM
Tune in next 'cast to find out! Same bat time, same bat place, same bat channel!
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 13, 2009, 01:49:23 AM
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on May 13, 2009, 07:32:17 AM
Post by: Stratos on May 13, 2009, 02:22:39 PM
I always knew Greg was part of the British resistance. My men are looking for you, filthy partisan!
To arms! Rally under Lindy's banner! Route the enemy! Peace through Power!
Post by: Nick DiMola on June 09, 2009, 07:53:11 AM
Post by: Stratos on June 09, 2009, 09:55:03 PM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on June 15, 2009, 10:48:49 PM
Post by: Stratos on June 16, 2009, 03:54:59 PM
This thread is worth bumping for the simple fact that I called Greg a filthy partisan.
I got the torches and pitchforks.
Someone find us some tar and feathers, quicklike so we can tar and feather him too.
