Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: ShyGuy on April 10, 2009, 04:18:30 PM
Title: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on April 10, 2009, 04:18:30 PM
This is the state of the wii survival horror union, and we report the state of the union to be strong!
Survival Horror is a genre that first rose to popularity in the mid 90's, primarily on the PS1. Hallmark gameplay attributes of the survival horror genre include: overwhelming enemies, limited weaponry/ammunition, resource managment, isolation, puzzle solving, and fixed camera angles. Some attributes have fallen by the wayside as the genre has evolved.
There are many survival horror game series; let's see how they are doing on the Wii.
Alone in the Dark Starting on the PC in 1992, this series is considered by many to be the first survival horror game. Alone in the Dark (2008) is an ambitious series reboot from Atari. It came to all major platforms and is generally considered BAD.
On Wii The 360/PS3 version of Alone in the dark is bad, but the Wii version is TERRIBLE. Muddy graphics, clunky controls, inconsistent environment.
Resident Evil The franchise that coined the term "survival horror" It is considered the biggest series in the genre. In the current generation, the series has largely abandoned the its survival horror roots to become more action oriented. Resident Evil 5 has more in common with gears of War than other titles in the series.
On Wii RE4 Was ported to the Wii and most call it the definitive version. A new sub series has also originated on the Wii, a rail shooter that goes by the name Chronicles. The first game, Umbrella Chronicles was a retelling of RE0 RE1 RE3 and a new chapter. A sequel has been announced called The Dark Chronicles which will be a retelling of RE2 (some say it will also include RE:Code Veronica and RE4 in its retelling) Resident Evil 5 currently has no announced Wii version, but many hold out hope of a port.
Fatal Frame Starting on the PS2 in 2001, this is a critically acclaimed Tecmo series focusing on Japanese folklore. The latest game is Fatal Frame 4 developed by Tecmo, Grasshopper Studios (home of Suda51) and Nintendo
On Wii This game has been out for several months in Japan but currently has no plans to come to the US or Europe. There is much confusion and nerd rage over this. Will we ever get to play the game? Nobody seems to know.
Obscure A small franchise by Dreamcatcher, the first Obscure game was released for the PS2 and Xbox in 2004.
On Wii The second title, Obscure: The Aftermath was released on Wii. It's definitely a B-grade game, and although it has its share of problems the game is still fun.
Dead Space The new kid on the survival horror block, Dead Space debuted on the 360 in 2008. It boasts RE4 style gameplay and a sci-fi twist on survival horror.
On Wii EA announced that Dead Space was coming to the Wii and everyone was happy. Then EA said it was a rail shooter and everyone was mad. Dead Space: Extraction is a prequel, a "guided first person experience" and promises to be more than just a rail shooter. We will see.
Silent Hill The second most notable survival horror series, it is known for having a psychological edge. It has recently suffered from weak spinoff titles. Fan favorite Pyramid Head first shows up in the second game.
On Wii A "reimagination" of the first game is on its way to the Wii (plus the PSP and PS2). The first details have just emerged and we are hyped. It looks pretty and the game sounds intriguing.
So there we have the established survival horror games on the Wii. Check back for part two with details of new horror titles launching on the Wii like Cursed Mountain and Winter.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 10, 2009, 04:24:33 PM
Quote
everyone was mad
Speak for yourself. :P
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2009, 04:29:52 PM
I thought NOE was publishing Fatal Frame in Europe? Did I hear wrong or make up a false memory?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 10, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
BNM there is lots of confusion regarding that. NOE says that they were then recently they said that they were not.On top of that lots of European retailers have the game listed for release.It is a confusing mess.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 10, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
Good poast.
Last-second wisdom: "Below the navel there is neither religion nor truth." -- Italian proverb
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on April 10, 2009, 06:58:44 PM
The only major franchise the Wii is missing is Clock Tower.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on April 10, 2009, 07:41:29 PM
The only major franchise the Wii is missing is Clock Tower.
I was just thinking of that game. Didn't one of those games include the use of a camera as well or did I mix that up with Fatal Frame? I remember one game had two sisters trying to stay alive.
I do have an interesting prediction/thought, the new section from Umbrella Chronicles could possibly be turned into a new RE game on Wii. I would like to see that.
Good summaries, ShyGuy. You should also include rumored/desired games in the next one you do. I know IGN has listed a rumored Wii game from Silicone Knights that is a "Psychological Thriller" game (I really hope it is Eternal Darkness 2). Plus there is the EA/Suda51 horror game that is planned.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 10, 2009, 07:43:54 PM
Looks like Sillent Hill: SM is what a new Clock Tower would be like with the no fighting element, with its focus being on escaping and evading enemies.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ThePerm on April 10, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
its good to see such a move to wii
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2009, 10:27:55 PM
I know IGN has listed a rumored Wii game from Silicone Knights that is a "Psychological Thriller" game (I really hope it is Eternal Darkness 2). Plus there is the EA/Suda51 horror game that is planned.
Did you update the rumor thread with that game?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Mop it up on April 10, 2009, 10:37:36 PM
I didn't know so many survival horror games had come to Wii. I'm not really interested in that type of game myself but it can never hurt to have such diversity available if I ever decide to branch out.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
ShyGuy, you think you can do one of these for other genres too?
maybe with links to official reviews & gameplay videos too?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: IceCold on April 11, 2009, 12:49:27 AM
I think ShyGuy did it for first-person games and adventure games on the DS.
By the way, what about Cursed Mountain?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 11, 2009, 12:59:04 AM
ShyGuy, you think you can do one of these for other genres too?
maybe with links to official reviews & gameplay videos too?
Thanks BnM here, are the links to my DS adventure games post https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=21889.0
and my Wii FPS post (with Karion's help) https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=22197.0
I will be making my post about the four new survival horror Wii games soon.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on April 12, 2009, 02:21:10 AM
I thought there were more than four.
Cursed Mountain, Winter, 'Feel', Silicone Knight's 'Psychological Thriller' and the EA/Suda 51/Kojima title.
Also what of the episodic WiiWare game where you are on an airplane with zombies called Last Flight?
Or are you not dealing with the mystery/rumor titles? I'm excited to see what you write.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 12, 2009, 02:28:14 AM
Stratos there are a few more. The Calling. We have a topic on it but it hasn't been updated in a while.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on April 13, 2009, 03:30:05 AM
Part Two: Original IP
Escape from Bug Island The first survival horror came on the Wii. Giants bugs are trying to eat characters from the Dreamcast. I've always been scared to play this game, but I hear Golden Phoenix is a big fan.
When It's been out since near launch. You can find it in bargain bins everywhere.
Cursed Mountain An interesting new twist on Survival Horror, Cursed Mountain has new place for a game, scaling a mountain in the Himalayas. This title boasts a new game engine and is being developed by Sproing Interactive and Deep Silver/
Winter Remember Geist? It was an underrated FPS game from N-space last generation on the Gamecube. N-space has kept busy with a new survival horror game called Winter. Problem is, the don't have a publisher and it is effectly canceled. However, they recently finished demo 2.0 (with motion plus) and are shopping it around. Cross your fingers!
Feel This one kind of came out of nowhere. The director of Ju-on aka The Grudge is working on a horror title based on his films. Remember that kid who made cat sounds? that was creepy.
When Summer 2009 in Japan, don't know if/when anywhere else
The Calling Little is known about this survival horror game. It was first made public by a leak a t a PR firm. It's Japanese, you can interact with the enviroment quite a bit, and it's scary. What else do we need to know?
Now, there are other potential survival horror games coming to the Wii, but I stuck with the ones that are far enough along that we have seen media for them.
As Stratos mentioned, Silicon Knights has been rumored to have a possible survival horror game for the Wii (Eternal Darkness 2?)
And who can forget Sadness, one of the first games announced for the Wii, but at this point it is largely considered vaporware.
There are other "survival horror" titles on the Wii, but I disqualified them from the main list
Capcom has re-released Resident Evil 4, plus Resident Evil Remake and Resident Evil Zero all for the Wii. We have seen these all in the previous generation.
Some May call Manhunt 2 a survival horror game, but I classify the first Manhunt as a stealth game more than anything. Anyone disagree?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on April 13, 2009, 04:08:45 AM
Don't forget our one and only WiiWare survival horror type game! I'll post about that one for you.
Last Flight
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww295/SuperStratos/lastflight2.jpg) Last Flight is being called a 'slasher' game similar to Devil May Cry's gameplay according to the developer, BlooberTeam (http://blooberteam.com). The premise begins with your character, Larry, a well rounded man with a tacky yellow shirt on a flight to Europe with plans to write a book. A woman named Anna who is sitting next to him is returning to her homeland to bury her 'deceased' father. During the flight some air turbulence disturbs the coffin her father rests in and he turns out to be a vampire that has been awakened. He starts attacking the passengers and turning them into vampires. You must try and survive the flight.
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww295/SuperStratos/lastflight3.jpg) The game is planned as an episodic gaming experience broken up into four episodes over the WiiWare service. It will be cel-shaded and include a rather large amount of gore compared to your typical WiiWare fare. The story will be conveyed through comic strip like panels containing a good deal of black humor. The combat system will be gesture based and include an intuitive combo system. The game will also call up elements of classic point and click adventure games using the Wiimote. You can play as either Larry or the whip wielding Anna as you try to put down all the vampires. There will also be an alliance system where you can convince other passengers to work together with you.
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww295/SuperStratos/lastflight4.jpg) The game will be a single player endeavor and is planned for release later this year with subsequent episodes coming 3-4 months apart from each other. I'm intrigued by it and wonder how they intend to get this on WiiWare. They sound willing to make it a disc based game if Nintendo balks at the idea of a bloody game appearing on their service so it is nice to know they intend to see it released one way or another.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 13, 2009, 04:28:05 AM
Wii looks to be king of Survival Horror and 2D gaming.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: KDR_11k on April 13, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Yeah, I've noticed the mass of survival horror games before, even before SH and Feel were announced.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 12:49:11 PM
I'm confused why Umbrella Chronicles was included in the list without The House of the Dead: Overkill (the only real mechanism for survival in both games is pressing B).
I think we're also missing ESCAPE FROM BUG ISLAND. There is no authorization to exclude this.
Someone should investigate if Feel and The Calling are actually the same game.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on April 14, 2009, 02:42:04 PM
HOLY CRAP I FORGOT BUG ISLAND
Also, REUC was grandfathered in under Resident Evil's standing in the survival horror community
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 03:21:51 PM
ok
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 15, 2009, 01:42:05 AM
food for the thredd
>> Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/redc.html) March 2009 teaser trailer
>> Cursed Mountain (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/cm.html) September 2008 teaser trailer December 2008 trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on April 15, 2009, 02:05:08 AM
Thanks for the vids, Pro. If you have any others, feel free to add them to your post.
I added bug Island to the listing.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 15, 2009, 12:41:03 PM
I've got tons of neat old stuff to show in the next weeks. A good chunk is relevant simply because Capcom decided to bring REmakeWiimake and R-Wii-Zero to Yankee shores.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2009, 01:23:36 AM
Fresh fleshy feed brain
>> Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/reuc.html) July 2007 gameplay trailer TGS 2007 trailer
>> Resident Evil Zero (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/gcn/rezero.html) TGS 2002 trailer
>> Resident Evil Remake (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/gcn/remake.html) RE4 Preview Disc trailer 15sec JPN TV ad w/ Jill Sandwich
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 07, 2009, 06:29:19 PM
>> RE4: Wii Edition (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/re4wii.html) 15sec JPN TV ad w/ REAL LIFE PEOPLES
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on May 07, 2009, 09:30:13 PM
Manhunt 2 is a stealth game? What with the raucous outcry it generated, I assumed it was a gory Doom 3-esque FPS.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 07, 2009, 09:37:57 PM
Hardly FPS'q. It's more Metal Gear Meat Grinder.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 11:46:13 PM
Girl On Zombie... stuff....lololololololol SURVIVAL HORROR lolololoollol
>> Onechanbara: Bikini Zombie Slayers (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/oneechanbzs.html) Official trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 11:46:54 PM
Not sure if "LET'S HITCHHIKE" (Let's Fap Horror?) was mentioned in this thread.
what ever happened with the game where there was a flashlight and it was going to be a really neat take on the survival horror genre.
You talking about LIT, The Calling, or Silent Hill: Shattered Memories? Yeah, your description is more than a little vague.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2009, 07:41:21 PM
Wasn't Sadness supposed to do that as well?
I think we will need another Survival Horror update. Haven't there been a few more announced since update number 2, ShyGuy?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 19, 2009, 09:04:32 PM
Also, Ju-On.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 19, 2009, 09:06:28 PM
I also have a bunch of "SurvHorr" videos to add, but being away for a couple weeks plus the dauting amount of E3 media one person has to get thru plus actually spending free time to play video games held me back.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2009, 09:14:06 PM
You should train an apprentice, Pro.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 19, 2009, 09:20:05 PM
To play my games? **** that
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BwrJim! on July 19, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
Sorry about the lack of description. I went off searching for what I could. The game was featured in Nintendo Power back in the revolution days.
From what I rememebr, they used promo shots that looked like real actors and it had something to do with one girl searching for another. I dont rememebr the connection between them but it is a title that dissapeared off of all radars. In my searches, I looked for Revolution Flashlight, Rev.. midnight, and so on. I do remember a cave system or at least a cavern.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: broodwars on July 19, 2009, 09:34:11 PM
Sorry about the lack of description. I went off searching for what I could. The game was featured in Nintendo Power back in the revolution days.
From what I rememebr, they used promo shots that looked like real actors and it had something to do with one girl searching for another. I dont rememebr the connection between them but it is a title that dissapeared off of all radars. In my searches, I looked for Revolution Flashlight, Rev.. midnight, and so on. I do remember a cave system or at least a cavern.
Ypu don't mean Fragile, do you? Actually, I think Stratos was on the right track: were you perhaps talking about Sadness, a supposedly-Wii horror game that apparently used pictures of real women in its teaser advertising?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2009, 09:36:06 PM
Sorry about the lack of description. I went off searching for what I could. The game was featured in Nintendo Power back in the revolution days.
From what I rememebr, they used promo shots that looked like real actors and it had something to do with one girl searching for another. I dont rememebr the connection between them but it is a title that dissapeared off of all radars. In my searches, I looked for Revolution Flashlight, Rev.. midnight, and so on. I do remember a cave system or at least a cavern.
Ypu don't mean Fragile, do you? Actually, I think Stratos was on the right track: were you perhaps talking about Sadness, a supposedly-Wii horror game that apparently used pictures of real women in its teaser advertising?
Saddness is probably what it is. That's the only one I know of that used a real actor in a teaser and was known of that early in the Wii's life.
Fatal Frame 4 featured a female lead, though.
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Post by: BwrJim! on July 19, 2009, 10:43:59 PM
Schweet.. Thanks thats it!
http://nibris.net/
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2009, 10:50:31 PM
"Our game...iz reel" ;)
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: broodwars on July 19, 2009, 11:22:11 PM
Speaking of Fatal Frame, though, anyone play Fatal Frame 2? It seems now that Fatal Frame 4 is not coming to North America, the prevous installments have finally dropped back down to reasonable prices on Amazon and whatnot and you can find them again. I was thinking about picking up Crimson Butterfly since it looks the most interesting of the 3 previous games.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BwrJim! on July 19, 2009, 11:32:17 PM
I was actually just dabbling around in release list and fatal frame four is still TBD.. not cancelled. lets hope. I wonder if the Japanese version has any english in it?
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 20, 2009, 01:24:06 AM
I'm pretty sure IGN reported that FF4 is not heading to the US, at all. I doubt the Japanese version has any English, if it did, then they'd probably release it here. Anyway...where the Hell is Sadness?!!
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 20, 2009, 01:29:54 AM
Moved to 360
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 20, 2009, 01:54:48 AM
I'm pretty sure IGN reported that FF4 is not heading to the US, at all. I doubt the Japanese version has any English, if it did, then they'd probably release it here.
Not necessarily, Tecmo only said it was Nintendo's decision. Nintendo and Tecmo may yet come to an agreement on it.
Someone should write a letter to RFN and ask them to badger the dev team about an update. Either the project (and possibly the company) are dead or they have gotten a lot done on it.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 20, 2009, 11:56:45 AM
And Nintendo decided the game should have some bugs fixed, but Tecomomomo refused.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BwrJim! on July 20, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
actually, I submitted a letter of intent to work for them.. If they are still in business I will post the response here.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: EasyCure on July 20, 2009, 01:53:07 PM
I'm pretty sure IGN reported that FF4 is not heading to the US, at all. I doubt the Japanese version has any English, if it did, then they'd probably release it here.
Not necessarily, Tecmo only said it was Nintendo's decision. Nintendo and Tecmo may yet come to an agreement on it.
Someone should write a letter to RFN and ask them to badger the dev team about an update. Either the project (and possibly the company) are dead or they have gotten a lot done on it.
They'll do it AFTER metroid: other m... but probably not ;)
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 21, 2009, 06:44:29 PM
The forgotten updates, old stuff but should've been in this thread the first time around.
>> Ju-On: The Grudge (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/juon.html) E3 2009 teaser trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on July 21, 2009, 07:06:25 PM
Is there a DivX plug-in for Firefox? I D/Ld the DivX installer but I'm not sure if I can use that to play them in my browser.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 21, 2009, 07:24:59 PM
The fatty DivX install package should include the Web Player plugin. Run the install and it should be listed, regardless of browser.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on July 21, 2009, 07:37:54 PM
I see, I needed to shut off and restart Firefox. Works now!
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 21, 2009, 09:18:11 PM
GENESIS DOES
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: King of Twitch on July 21, 2009, 09:50:13 PM
There should be a Wii Survival Horror Franchise in the OP about being a Hardcore Gamer.
Wii Hardcore Gamer Starting on the NES in 1990 and reemerging 16 years later, this series is considered by many to be the worst survival horror game, as it does not actually play. Wii Hardcore Gamer (2006) is an unambitious series reboot from the couch though it loathes to do anything resembling motility. It complains about not being ported from all other major platforms and novelty waggle controls. Its many, many crushed dreams (Pilotwings, Kid Icarus, Wii Speak, Mario-Sonic crossover platformer, Nintendo-Square RPG crossover, 3D Pokemon RPG, FLUDD, Brownie Brown announcement, Silicon Knights, Rare, massive and unrelenting Wii Fit sales) has left it chronically prone to fear of imminent death. A robust horror experience that will no doubt be resurrected every five years.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 22, 2009, 01:04:58 PM
>> Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/redc.html) E3 2009 trailer June 2009 gameplay video 1 June 2009 gameplay video 2 Japan Expo 2009 trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 25, 2009, 01:22:28 AM
>> Dead Space: Extraction (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/dse.html) E3 2009 Nintendo Media Briefing trailer * 480p Wii controls developer commentary trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 25, 2009, 01:25:11 AM
>> Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/redc.html) July 2009 gameplay video 1: RE2 July 2009 gameplay video 2: RE Code Veronica
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BwrJim! on July 26, 2009, 10:44:07 AM
For a second I thought that was a new video...2006. :P
Our video iz real. ;)
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 10, 2009, 03:01:45 PM
>> Cursed Mountain (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/cm.html) September 2008 teaser trailer December 2008 trailer March 2009 gameplay video 1 - Run for your life March 2009 gameplay video 2 - In the snow E3 2009 trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: broodwars on August 10, 2009, 06:28:47 PM
By the way, all, I got Fatal Frame 2 in a few weeks back and played through it. All I have to say is this: a pox on both the houses of Nintendo and Tecmo for not working out a compromise to get Fatal Frame 4 over here, because if FF2 is any indication we are missing out on a pretty incredible (if heavy in backtracking) experience.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on August 11, 2009, 05:48:39 AM
I agree. I'm still holding my breath for a compromise of some type.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on August 11, 2009, 06:37:43 AM
Stratos is going to pass out... :(
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on August 11, 2009, 06:42:14 AM
:-X
...turning...blue...
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 24, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 12, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Time to bring some life back into GENERAL HORROR GAMING, SOME INVOLVING GENERAL SURVIVAL, CUZ IF YOU FAIL, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GET THE "GOOD ENDING" WHERE THEY SURVIVE. Ju-On: The Grudge should be out this Tuesday/Wednesday, marking the revival of FLASHLIGHT GAMING IN GAMES THAT MATTER THAT AREN'T WORTHLESS LIKE DOOM3.
Let's not forget the other creepy-kid flashlight game for Wii: "Calling." Since July it's been officially named "Calling" rather than "The Calling," probably cuz there's too many "The ____" names lately in entertainment. I suppose the sequels, to complete the Trilogy, will be aptly named, "Texting," and "Tweeting."
Calling thread topic is here http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=27239.0
>> Calling (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/calling.html) September 2009 teaser trailer
>> Cursed Mountain (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/cm.html) August 2009 launch trailer
>> Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/redc.html) PAX 2009 gameplay video 1: RE2 PAX 2009 gameplay video 2: RE: Code Veronica
>> Dead Space Extraction (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/dse.html) Dev Diary 2: the experience * 480p
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 03, 2009, 03:05:36 AM
About freaking time they showed something new.
>> Silent Hill: Shattered Memories (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/shsm.html) December 2009 launch trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 03, 2009, 12:38:41 PM
>> Dead Space: Extraction (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/dse.html) Dev Diary 1: Wii controls Dev Diary 2: the Dead Space experience Dev Diary 3: story Dev Diary 4: characters Dev Diary 5: horror
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 03, 2009, 01:03:39 PM
>> Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/redc.html) TGS 2009 trailer TGS 2009 gameplay video: South America November 2009 launch trailer November 2009 Bonus Costumes video November 2009 Tofu Mode video
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 28, 2010, 02:28:24 PM
Survival horror? Maybe, maybe not?
>> Calling (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/calling.html) November 2009 trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 25, 2010, 04:04:30 PM
There are TWO flashlight games out this March, but only this one is Horror.
>> Calling (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/calling.html) Dev Diary video 1
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 04, 2010, 12:57:21 AM
>> Ju-On: The Grudge (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/juon.html) August 2009 launch trailer
I still need to finish the scary game, all 2 hours of it!
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 11, 2010, 01:25:26 AM
I'm considering the purchase of ESCAPE FROM BUG ISLAND. It's cheap, and would suit my DIVERSE line-up of Wii horror games.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 11, 2010, 01:55:16 AM
it would never be complete without it.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on March 11, 2010, 04:07:54 AM
Is that game actually good? I keep hearing people mention it on here and saying it's good but I can't tell if people are serious or just joking around about it.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 11, 2010, 04:49:30 AM
The game is quite terrible, worse than ObsCure II, but even ObsCure II has some obvious positives.
Escape From Bug Island happens to be the first Wii horror game to feature a flashlight in its graphic presentation (not so much in actual utility), so it deserves to be experienced, archived, and remembered.
It's not just survival horror, it's survival horrible.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: Stratos on March 11, 2010, 04:52:56 AM
The game is quite terrible, worse than ObsCure II, but even ObsCure II has some obvious positives.
Escape From Bug Island happens to be the first Wii horror game to feature a flashlight in its graphic presentation (not so much in actual utility), so it deserves to be experienced, archived, and remembered.
It's not just survival horror, it's survival horrible.
The Wii is inventing new genres!
Title: Survival Horror is Dead
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 11, 2010, 06:10:51 PM
The Wii Survival Horror libary expands this month, introducing ``Calling,`` the FIFTH Flashlight Horror Adventure title to hit Wii.
But in fairness to reality, Survival Horror, as we used to know it, is dead. It's been long dead, made apparent by the volume of "survival horror" titles that've made their home on Wii this generation. It feels like Wii has the largest and most diverse (haha?) line-up of horror titles among all current platforms, but the climate feels... different... from previous eras of video games.
Here's the definition provided by internet nerds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_horror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_horror)
Here's what I see in "classic" Survival Horror: - odd Japanese adventure gaming, wacko puzzles/locks/gates, nonsense barriers/obstacles - limited firepower, scarcity of resources, "flight" over "fight" leads to greater success - **** controls, awful combat, but not absolutely "broken"; mechanics otherwise worked well enough that progression appeared straightforward - laffable presentation, acting/script so bad it's legendary - despite the above innovations, the experience of these dark scary adventures manages to be engaging on some level - sometimes unexpectedly likable, like bad horror or sci-fi you happen to catch on TV while flipping channels
Now let's see how see how our view of the genre has changed, using the Wii library perspective. A brief look at each game, pointing out things of significance. *Guided shooters left out for obvious reasons.
==THE OLD GENERATION==
1. Escape from Bug Island (Necro-Nesia) -- An ambitious "true" survival horror game cashing in on the Wii craze. Terrible on every front, just as survival horror dictates, but the empty forests and giant insects don't prove to be as charming as the undead. Includes necessary and broken waggle combat, and the innovative feature to move around a flashlight, whose light can attract hostile bugs to attack the player. A real trailblazer for the Wii. 2. Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition -- The apparent pinnacle and standard of "modern" survival horror. Is it really survival horror? It might feel like it at first, with some ammo running scarce and being chased/cornered a few times. But the controls are fantastic, the presentation and game system are solid, the acting is DECENT, and progression isn't setup as a puzzle-filled map with circular paths of locked doors. Since the controls are fantastic, your comfort level rises over time, and you soon accumulate so much firepower that you unleash yourself like some John Rambo, putting your enemies in the position of trying to survive YOU instead. This is so UN-survival horror! 3. ObsCure II: The Aftermath -- A surprise gem that's not worth wearing, yet acknowledged. It one-ups RE Zero's buddy system by allowing 2-Player local co-op for the entire adventure, and shows a surprising amount of polish while still retaining key survival horrible qualities. Given the worse AI of the buddy character, completing a solo game is practically unpossible! Graphics are surprising, sporting solid 60fps performance with environments and characters more detailed than those in Eternal Darkness. The camera reminds you of Eternal Darkness, trying to independently flow with your travel. But the camera is ****. It follows your characters, sure, but doesn't reliably position itself for important stuff, like interaction with enemies. Melee combat is handled decently via waggle gestures, any friendly damage incurs a small health penalty, and the IR pointer aims firewarms anywhere on the screen, tho the camera tries to follow the cursor in a frustratingly wacky way. When things get dangerous, fleeing is a viable, strategic option. Puzzles and backtracking are true to the genre. The MTV-ish midwest teen-horror-movie celeb-inspired characters, acting, and presentation are sickening. An inexpensive trainwreck that should be witnessed with a brave, open-minded friend. 4. Alone in the Dark -- Ugly Wii multiplatform biproduct that's unfortunately broken beyond repair and playability. The product seemed obsessed with presenting "immersive" movie-like suspense-action situations while forgetting to include lasting core gameplay underlying the adventure. By being a bad game, it had the makings of a classic surival horror title, but turned out too horrible to survive its key flaws. 5. Fatal Frame 4: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse -- Hawt chicks, ghosts, naughty photography, nice visuals, and no violent combat; one of the "alternative" survival horror properties leftover from the previous video game era. It's the second flashlight horror adventure on Wii; Hell Yes. But Tecmo's apparently poor handling of the control scheme and their refusal to fix it in any way led Nintendo to not embarrass themselves letting this game outside Japan; aw Hell Naw. Bad controls intact, this was the last "survival horror" title released on Wii. All "horror games" that followed would further illustrate the extinction of the genre.
==THE NEW GENERATION==
6. Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop -- ahahahahahaha so much control, so little to actually kill. There isn't much to threaten you, so there isn't much to survive from, you just coexist with other un-lifeforms in this strange, sad, empty mall. More Horrible than actual Horror, a product that doesn't know what it's trying to be. 7. Deadly Creatures -- The honorable mention. An action-platformer in a natural setting without the intention to be survival horror, yet is presented thru a unique atmosphere that provides noticeable horror traits. Monstrous BUGS like to show up in various survival horror titles, with a particular "island" title not faring as well as others, while here the "monsters" are life-size according to the perspective, including the ones you control yourself. Oddly, bugs versus bugs reminds us there's SURVIVAL in NATURE being illustrated in this game. The desert setting is hostile and sometimes haunting, and the "character" animations provide the creepy-crawly personality some phobia sufferers would prefer not to witness. Does the bugs justice. 8. Cursed Mountain -- Surprisingly, and unfortunately, the only RE4 Wii Edition derivative to arrive so far. An action-adventure horror title that plays reasonably well, taking inspirations from RE4 Wii's movement and aiming controls. The high-altitude, cold-weather, Himalayan setting sets it apart from many "urban" horror titles, using the elements to create survival situations as well as a threatening, unforgiving atmosphere. Unhappy ghosts and demons get in your way to the top of the mountain, with combat centered on weapons with supernatural properties. Victory over the ghosts relies more on mastery of your various spiritual arts (motion control rituals have key benefits over 100% shooting), rather than an arsenel of bullets and boompowder; there's no ammo to collect, and infinite spiritual lasers aren't exactly rapid-fire. It's nowhere near the National Lampoon's Ass Kicking provided in Resident Evil 4, but it plays too well (relatively) for typical survival horror outings. 9. Ju-On: The Grudge -- 10. Silent Hill: Shattered Memories -- 11. Calling --
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: broodwars on March 11, 2010, 06:15:08 PM
Ugh, don't remind me of my foolhardy purchase of the Wii version of Alone in the Dark, back when I was much less cynical of developers' capabilities on Wii. The Wii version is nearly as godawful as the PS3 version (which was the final version of the game released, and the one that got all the bug fixes) is good.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ThePerm on March 11, 2010, 11:10:07 PM
yeah....you can't have a mature survival horror game and have the word "bug" in it...
If it was called "The Crawling" it would have sold like gangbusters
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on March 12, 2010, 12:35:23 AM
Quick thought:
RE4 Wii is the best survival horror GAME on the Wii
Cursed Mountain may be the best SURVIVAL HORROR game on the Wii.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 12, 2010, 01:25:47 AM
Your bucket does hold water.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on March 12, 2010, 01:28:32 AM
I sit at the feet of the master. Teach me how to plug the holes in my bucket.
(I haven't bought Silent Hill yet because I'm a bad person on the inside)
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 26, 2010, 03:33:07 PM
>> Calling (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/calling.html) March 2010 launch trailer
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ThePerm on March 26, 2010, 04:00:22 PM
so, i got the re4 wii edition and here are my thoughts
the controls could be better. In the last version there was a pretty good camera sytem, but this camera is kinda useless on the d-pad. I think the d-pad could have been better used for other things. I also think that aiming should control perspective as well as the pointer, while the other controls should remain the same. I wish you could move, aim, and shoot at the same time.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
Bad news, I heard Winter got canceled for the Wii. :(
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 26, 2010, 04:05:58 PM
It's spring time now. =|
northern hemisphere
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2010, 04:07:24 PM
so, i got the re4 wii edition and here are my thoughts
the controls could be better. In the last version there was a pretty good camera sytem, but this camera is kinda useless on the d-pad. I think the d-pad could have been better used for other things. I also think that aiming should control perspective as well as the pointer, while the other controls should remain the same. I wish you could move, aim, and shoot at the same time.
The controls felt really wonky to me when I first played it again on the Wii, but I adjusted to it after a level or two.
I'm sure they would do the controls different if they started with the Wii remote as the base controller.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 26, 2010, 04:45:42 PM
Yeah, allowing moving w/ shooting would've changed the feel of the game completely. As it stands, having the camera initially frozen and the character stationary during shooting allows for that high-speed, high flexibility, highly accurate crack-shot shooting gallery style of gunplay (we can shoot enemy arrows mid-flight, dammit). And I don't know if the developers thought of it this way or not, but keeping the character stationary stays true to the series' "law enforcement" themed roots ("stay where you are, or I'l shoot! Don't come any closer! AHHHHH!"), where basic stillness yields accuracy and accuracy is valued since ammo conservation is a long-running theme in the series.
So if tactical walking/strafing were to accompany shooting in a new game, I'd expect loss of accuracy to be factored and reflected on your cursor, and I'd expect the nature of the enemies and engagements to be redesigned again, otherwise they won't put up much of a fight (nor deliver a suitable level of terror).
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: ThePerm on March 26, 2010, 04:52:55 PM
well i beat the game like 5 times before someone stole my copy, and i had to wait 3 years and buy a wii version. I was happy to find out that if you want you can still aim with the joystick, but i figured what would be the point. Its nice that it feels like im playing a new game(even though at the same time it really feels that im not), i definitely like the walking controls that is in re4, and are pretty much a throwback to older crappier games, but a good throwback. Those games were 2d though, and it works really well in 3d. Even though there have been a crapload of resident evil remakes dumped on nintendo consoles, after watching the unlimited detail demo, it got me wondering what a full 3d version of resident evil would be like.
Title: Re: Wii Survival Horror Franchises
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 05, 2011, 04:28:18 PM
