Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 22, 2009, 08:54:00 AM
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Episode 134: Successful Franchise: Spin-off
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This episode starts off with chatter upon Animal Crossing and Retro Game Challenge, plus a bunch of games on other systems, including a bit of Soul Calibur 4 vs. Street Fighter 4 action. Then we complete a round of RetroActive, with coverage of the final Boos and final boss in Luigi's Mansion. We're taking a break from RetroActive next week, then it's on to Eternal Darkness! Be sure to drop your suggestions for upcoming games in the forums, and look out for the next poll to be launched soon.
After the break, it's time for Listener Mail. Zelda's save system, rumors on NWR, and a 60-second game design challenge are all up to bat. The show ends with a survey of recent news developments, from Commodore 64 on Virtual Console to details of the new Dead Space game for Wii.
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This podcast was edited by Greg Leahy.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 22, 2009, 06:48:42 PM
Post by: kraken613 on February 22, 2009, 08:23:01 PM
Post by: Stratos on February 22, 2009, 09:12:42 PM
Listening to it now. Hooray!
Post by: kraken613 on February 22, 2009, 09:24:02 PM
Post by: D_Average on February 22, 2009, 09:40:14 PM
Post by: Stratos on February 22, 2009, 09:41:59 PM
Well I dont have it.... sad....
Did you select refresh/update?
Post by: kraken613 on February 22, 2009, 10:23:46 PM
On my iPhone and iTunes its not there...
Post by: Stratos on February 22, 2009, 11:57:41 PM
About Luigi's Mansion, I thought that I could loosely control Luigi's movement. Maybe it only felt that way but I seemed to be able to direct my path while sucking ghosts to avoid obstacles such as bananas and poison 'shrooms.
On the matter of DSi Ware killer apps. Would a new World of Goo game be noteworthy for you? I think a DS version would be pretty sweet. Though ever with that I would need at the very least six must-have titles on DSiW before I would even consider getting one. I am quite happy with my Lite and I heavily use the GBA slot for old games (not carpel tunnel hero though).
Loved the episode. Thanks for your guys' work on it.
Yes....
On my iPhone and iTunes its not there...
Maybe delete and re-subscribe would work? Or you could just D/L it individually on MP3.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 23, 2009, 12:29:46 AM
Yes....
On my iPhone and iTunes its not there...
Please tell us which feed you subscribe to (MP3 or AAC -- it will be the latter if you subscribed through the iTunes store). That will help us to check for errors in the feed, if you are still having trouble that is.
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on February 23, 2009, 10:39:45 AM
Post by: NWR_Neal on February 23, 2009, 01:01:52 PM
Aw crud, as Reviews Editor I'll be the one burdened with the task of delegating the next Mystery Dungeon game. Thanks for reminding me. :-\
They announced a new Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game, too...
Speaking of that, James' profile does have his currently playing listed as Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
Post by: Plugabugz on February 23, 2009, 04:53:44 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 23, 2009, 05:21:19 PM
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 23, 2009, 05:54:09 PM
On the matter of DSi Ware killer apps. Would a new World of Goo game be noteworthy for you? I think a DS version would be pretty sweet. Though ever with that I would need at the very least six must-have titles on DSiW before I would even consider getting one. I am quite happy with my Lite and I heavily use the GBA slot for old games (not carpel tunnel hero though).
I thought World of Goo was over-rated. It's a decent game, but far from the best WiiWare game of 2008. I got it as a gift and thus am not upset, but I probably would have been had I spent $15 on it. I thought Defend Your Castle was more fun and worth more money than WOG.
Post by: Plugabugz on February 23, 2009, 05:57:42 PM
I'll think i'll rent Mirror's Edge instead. Once i get around to buying a 3 that is ;)
Post by: kraken613 on February 23, 2009, 07:09:33 PM
I'm about halfway done!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 24, 2009, 12:06:38 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 24, 2009, 12:21:57 PM
Some Multiplatform "ports" come across well on the Wii without having to change genres: Shaun White, Skate, COD:World at War, plus Overlord looks like it will be good.
Depends on what all the game is trying to do. Didn't they really change Skate it for Wii? World at War was a good port but lacked many of the online features. Overlord never had complex visuals or other features that were "next generation", though even there they had to cut the troop number in half.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 24, 2009, 01:15:27 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 24, 2009, 01:26:01 PM
Other than Balance Board support, I think Skate It is a pretty close port of the original game. Never interested me, though. I'm trying to rent Shaun White soon, as it was fun at E3 and sounds like a good product.
Wasn't Skate It the one that takes place in an abandoned city for the Wii version?
Post by: ShyGuy on February 24, 2009, 04:15:16 PM
To add to my Wii-Next Gen separate but equal list: COD3, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Sonic Unleashed*, Star Wars:TFU, Harry Potter* both Tomb Raiders* Transformers* and Geometry Wars.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 24, 2009, 04:19:49 PM
Yeah, but it makes sense in the Skate Universe continuity: A monster has attacked the city from Skate 1 and it was evacuated. You fight mecha-Godzilla as the end boss in Skate-It. 360 front flip for massive damage! People repopulated the city in Skate 2.
To add to my Wii-Next Gen separate but equal list: COD3, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Sonic Unleashed*, Star Wars:TFU, Harry Potter* both Tomb Raiders* Transformers* and Geometry Wars.
All made with multiplatform in mind (including PS2). Geometry Wars is far from a high tech game.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 24, 2009, 04:31:48 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 24, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
Blargh! What's your point? That technically complex games can't be ported down? Well, World of Warcraft wouldn't be too hot ported down from PC onto the 360 either. But Orange Box ported down just fine.
Depends how big of a drop it is. From 360 to Wii is much bigger then PC to 360 (Not to mention the Half-Life 2 engine is quite old).
Post by: Stratos on February 24, 2009, 04:40:24 PM
The Godfather and all three Lego games were also nice.
All made with multiplatform in mind (including PS2). Geometry Wars is far from a high tech game.
Why does it have to matter? Do you not think that Force Unleashed or Godfather or any other game needed to be made along side the other/lead SKUs?
Godfather came out much later -a good six months later. Most of the Wii versions were developed by different studios. Pi did Rock Band 2 for Harmonix. Chrome worked on Force Unleashed.
In fact, Force Unleashed is radically different from the HD version in design choices and menu layout compared to the others. Considering things like this, I don't see how making a game with multiplatform in mind makes that much of a big deal.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 24, 2009, 04:52:44 PM
Post by: Stratos on February 24, 2009, 05:06:38 PM
I played the 360 build at a friends house first and then a week later a Wii owning friend rented it and I played it with him. The difference was shocking to say the least. Even the menus for getting powers are vastly different.
I think a lot has to do with the developer's and publisher's goals. Are they just trying to make a financially cheap, watered-down port by trying to squeeze as much of the HD game into a Wii disk? Or rather are they adjusting to the Wii's strengths and weakness' in the case of Overlord? How they decide to go about making the Wii edition will determine what comes out of it.
Soul Calibur 4, RE 5, Prince of Persia and any number of other HD only games could flourish on the Wii as well. There are feasible engines from previous games on Gamecube and Wii that could be used as a basis for making successful Wii games.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 24, 2009, 05:21:06 PM
Post by: Stratos on February 24, 2009, 05:27:40 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 24, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Depends how big of a drop it is. From 360 to Wii is much bigger then PC to 360 (Not to mention the Half-Life 2 engine is quite old).
360 to Wii: 720p to 480p = 240p
PC to 360: 2048x1536 to 720p = like a kajillion pixels
360 to Wii = 512 RAM to 90mb something RAM = about 5 times the RAM
PC to 360 = 4gb to 512mb = about 8 times the RAM
IN YO FACE
On the subject, I would pay money to see James review the next mystery dungeon game. Maybe EA will port Mass Effect 2 and make it a mystery dungeon clone.
Post by: TheFleece on February 24, 2009, 08:10:35 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 24, 2009, 10:18:13 PM
Aw crud, as Reviews Editor I'll be the one burdened with the task of delegating the next Mystery Dungeon game. Thanks for reminding me. :-\
If you read the first post I love mystery dungeon games, I know you guys on the podcast were joking about it but I'll be more than happy to review mystery dungeon games for NWR :P.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 24, 2009, 10:20:05 PM
Godfather was created on the PS2 so getting it to Wii was not a big jump. Something like Dead Space would require some massive reworking and would most likely lose quite a bit that made the game good. Something like Force Unleashed was pretty much a physics demo so they could axe that.
While Godfather was created on the PS2, the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii versions pretty much look like the PS2 version (I played the Wii and PS3 version of the game and they look almost identical).
Post by: Pale on February 25, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
Just saying. :)
Post by: NovaQ on February 26, 2009, 09:46:17 PM
I don't think I've given any praise for this podcast yet since joining the forums, but it's fantastic. I've enjoyed listening to it over the years and noticing its slow evolution into what it is now. It's one of the main reasons I've kept up with the site and eventually joined the forums. No wonder the site's focus is shifting toward podcasts and blogs (though I guess the Intertubes in general are doing this nowadays). Keep up the good work! (And thanks for including one of my posts in the podcast.)
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on February 27, 2009, 01:43:21 AM
Post by: vudu on April 05, 2009, 03:00:55 PM
FYI, I love mystery dungeon games if you want to hire me for mystery dungeon games DO IT!
I must ask--was this a factor in the hiring of FOC? :)
Post by: Stratos on April 05, 2009, 03:31:10 PM
FYI, I love mystery dungeon games if you want to hire me for mystery dungeon games DO IT!
I must ask--was this a factor in the hiring of FOC? :)
LOL, good point, I didn't think about that. Quick, what other games are universally hated by the staff that I could use to get on staff! ;)
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 05, 2009, 03:34:51 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 06, 2009, 02:26:07 AM
FYI, I love mystery dungeon games if you want to hire me for mystery dungeon games DO IT!
I must ask--was this a factor in the hiring of FOC? :)
I wasn't involved, but I'm pretty sure it was not.
