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Title: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 06, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
1UP welcomes it's new overlords (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172156)
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You may have heard the rumors in the past, but today the announcement we?ve all been waiting for has officially come: UGO Entertainment and parent Hearst Corporation have acquired 1UP and its associated sites GameVideos.com, MyCheats.com, and GameTab.com. 1UP and its sites now join UGO's network of gaming properties that will reach over 40 million monthly unique visitors. UGO and 1UP representatives commented on the deal:
"Since we started UGO 11 years ago, we have served the gamer community and built a world-class online publishing platform," said J Moses, CEO of UGO Entertainment. "The acquisition of 1UP, with its authentic voice, tenured editorial personalities and bustling user community, allows us to expand our base of quality content and represents a major step forward in UGO's mission to become the leader in the games space."
"We are extremely excited to join the UGO team," said Sam Kennedy, editorial director and creator of 1UP. "Relying on UGO?s publishing platform will allow us to focus on what we do best?creating great content and 'owning the conversation' among gamers through our unique, authentic and definitive voice and community."
Obviously, there are sure to be many questions as to what this deal means for the day to day of 1UP and its sites. To those, we can only say that we'll continue to produce the very best gaming content and support the very best gaming community as we always have, only now we'll have the backing of a fantastic publisher like UGO. Please join with us in celebrating this major news for 1UP.
Gamasutra reports on the official closure of EGM (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21759)
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Following repeated rumors to the effect, Gamasutra has learned that Ziff Davis has sold its 1UP division to Hearst's UGO Entertainment, and is shutting long-running print magazine EGM in the process.
According to a statement received by Gamasutra, Ziff Davis Media has now officially announced the sale of the 1UP Digital Network to Hearst's UGO Entertainment division.
The sale includes 1UP.com, Mycheats.com, Gametab.com, and GameVideos.com, and specific financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
In association with this, Ziff Davis Media's EGM Magazine, a consumer game print mainstay since 1989, will be discontinued. The January 2009 issue will be the final printed issue.
"We believe this is a smart transaction for Ziff Davis Media that places these market leading assets and teams in a great environment poised for further success. The transaction allows us to pay down debt and shift our full focus to our core PCMag Digital Network business. We thank our 1UP team members for their contributions and wish them the best of success into the future", said Ziff Davis Media CEO Jason Young.
"Since we started UGO 11 years ago, we have served the gamer community and built a world-class online publishing platform," said J Moses, CEO of UGO Entertainment. "The acquisition of 1UP, with its authentic voice, tenured editorial personalities and bustling user community, allows us to expand our base of quality content and represents a major step forward in UGO's mission to become the leader in the games space."
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 06, 2009, 07:46:22 PM
good riddance?
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 06, 2009, 07:54:39 PM
Maybe 1up will actually have detailed and good reviews now instead of "I still don't know why this game got X score or why it is good or bad"
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: stevey on January 06, 2009, 08:32:06 PM
****, I just got a subscription yesterday :'(
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 06, 2009, 08:32:45 PM
VICTORY
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Post by: Peachylala on January 06, 2009, 08:37:49 PM
I will drink to this.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 06, 2009, 09:39:12 PM
Also the 1UP show is dead, 1UP's podcast is dead and the whole 1UP video team are laid off.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Schadenfreude on January 06, 2009, 10:23:09 PM
Most of the people working there got laid off.
Anyone who says this is good is a ****ing douchebag.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 06, 2009, 10:26:56 PM
Anyone who says this is good is a ****ing douchebag.
Good.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: broodwars on January 06, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
I'm going to miss reading the reviews in EGM every month. I may have rarely agreed with them, but at least they were fun to read. What I'm really going to miss, though, are the podcasts from the 1up.com staff, Retronauts in particular. Those, along with RFN, were the staples of my evening audio experience every week.
And yes, anyone cheering this announcement is pretty fracking cruel. You may not have agreed with their magazine, but that's a lot of people out of work now from the biggest gaming print company in the business. That's not good for anyone.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 06, 2009, 10:55:36 PM
I think I actually still have the very first issue of EGM sitting back at my Mom's place. It's the one with Mega Man 2 on the cover, overlaid on a white background. I'll miss EGM, they had some great reviews back in the day.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 06, 2009, 10:56:42 PM
Yes, I have this issue (I don't think I threw it out).
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 06, 2009, 11:18:57 PM
40 1UP people got laid off in totally sucks that they got let go on such a bad time, take it from a guy who is looking for work in general.
This is just sad :/ (http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8977527&publicUserId=5666460) Here are the people who got laid off:
Adrian Frieg Amy Mishra Amy Moran Andrea Garcia Andrew Fitch Andrew "Skip" Pfister Anthony Gallegos Cesar Quintero Christina Rosa CoyLou Steel Derek Chinn Doug Parsons Eric Ellis Giancarlo Varanini Greg Ford James "Milkman" Mielke Jason Bertrand Jason Wilson Jervilyn Jaramillo Justin Frechette Leslie Gelfand Marci Yamaguchi Matt Chandronait May Tong Meredith Stowe Michael Donahoe Monique Convertito Ndubuisi Madu Nick Suttner Norris Boothe Philip Kollar Rey Serrano Robert Bowen Rosemary Pinkham Ryan O'Donnell Ryan Scott Shane Bettenhausen Simon Cox Tammy Ross Tipler Ubbelohde
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 06, 2009, 11:36:13 PM
The only part of 1UP I cared about was Retronauts. Thankfully, Parish is still employed, but I feel bad for (most of) the rest of the crew (Bettenhausen, Andrew Fitch, Greg Ford, etc.).
That list is really long. Who's left? Parish, Sharkey, Ray Barnholt ... anyone else? EDIT: Garnett Lee, too! That guy's pretty okay.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 06, 2009, 11:38:40 PM
I'm going to miss reading the reviews in EGM every month. I may have rarely agreed with them, but at least they were fun to read. What I'm really going to miss, though, are the podcasts from the 1up.com staff, Retronauts in particular. Those, along with RFN, were the staples of my evening audio experience every week.
And yes, anyone cheering this announcement is pretty fracking cruel. You may not have agreed with their magazine, but that's a lot of people out of work now from the biggest gaming print company in the business. That's not good for anyone.
Good part 2!
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 07, 2009, 12:06:58 AM
This is fricken terrible. I loved both 1up yours and the 1up show. Those guys were really good for the industry.
What the hell is wrong with Ziff? All they do is sell their great properties to companies that only want to close them down. First Tech TV, now this...
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on January 07, 2009, 12:28:05 AM
I am deeply saddened. Yet another gaming media outlet is consumed. And this one had some fun podcasts.
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 07, 2009, 12:59:33 AM
I'll miss the podcasts. And the 1upshow.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: TofuFury on January 07, 2009, 02:01:52 AM
That totally sucks. Like most people, I haven't been fond of the new stuff, but I still read it. I read the magazine faithfully from 1996 or 97 until 2004 when college put a clamp on my spending funds. I started picking them up again a year ago, and while I wasn't a huge fan, they still put out a great product.
I really hope Retronauts continues in some sort of way. It's one of my favorite podcasts besides RFN. Reading that list and seeing people like Ryan Scott, Greg Ford, Milkman, Shane Bettenhausen, and some of the Retronauts regulars get laid off is terrible to see.
Here's hoping they all can land on their feet and get some work. I may not agree with them, but they don't deserve this.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 07, 2009, 02:51:55 AM
While its sad so many people got laid off I hope that the new management straighten things out. Seriously 1up and EGM had serious elitist and attitude issues.
Wanna bet the next site to be bought out is IGN?
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: ThePerm on January 07, 2009, 03:08:39 AM
there goes walk in store advertising
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on January 07, 2009, 03:50:33 AM
Well, Radio Trivia is sort of like Retronauts. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta....only without the special guests related to that episode's topic. Or a specific topic. FINE. But it IS retro!
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Deguello on January 07, 2009, 03:51:30 AM
This is fricken terrible. I loved both 1up yours and the 1up show. Those guys were really good for the industry.
What the hell is wrong with Ziff? All they do is sell their great properties to companies that only want to close them down. First Tech TV, now this...
The king of all ironies would be if they just simply didn't like video games or technology.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 07, 2009, 04:01:02 AM
While its sad so many people got laid off I hope that the new management straighten things out. Seriously 1up and EGM had serious elitist and attitude issues.
Wanna bet the next site to be bought out is IGN?
Really doubtful considering Newscorp bought them out in 2005.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2009, 07:23:54 AM
1up dead? And nothing of value was lost.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 07, 2009, 11:56:27 AM
While its sad so many people got laid off I hope that the new management straighten things out. Seriously 1up and EGM had serious elitist and attitude issues.
Wanna bet the next site to be bought out is IGN?
IGN was bought out like 2 years ago by Fox News Corp.
Edit: Beaten damn you golden!
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Well, Radio Trivia is sort of like Retronauts. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta....only without the special guests related to that episode's topic. Or a specific topic. FINE. But it IS retro!
Meh Destructoid's retro force go! is way more retro than radio trivia.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Ian Sane on January 07, 2009, 01:17:06 PM
So EGM started in 1989 and closed in 2009. You almost wish they just kept the magazine around until May when the Mag officially was 20 years old. End it with a big 20 year retrospective issue.
I haven't read EGM or any other videogame magazine in years (with the odd promotional free issue here and there) but this is a very historic moment. There was a time where magazines were THE way to get videogame news, previews and reviews. If there was no internet all of us would still have our nose buried in them. EGM was obsolete and was going to end at some point but whether you liked it or not at one point it was part of gaming culture. Or at the very least mags like EGM were a part of gaming culture and having such a major one end is significant. Gaming mags are the sort of thing from my childhood that my future kids will not identify with and will regard their father was a dinosaur for living in the era of them.
When I was your age we didn't have the internet. I had to look up my videogame news in a monthly magazine. The news was already three months old at that point but that's the way we liked it DAMMIT. ;)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: TofuFury on January 07, 2009, 01:42:35 PM
Well, Radio Trivia is sort of like Retronauts. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta....only without the special guests related to that episode's topic. Or a specific topic. FINE. But it IS retro!
Well, of course radio trivia is great. You do a great job with the podcast, and do discuss the games in great detail.
Still, hopefully Retronauts continues in some form, but I know that's probably not on Parish's mind at the moment (not blaming him).
So EGM started in 1989 and closed in 2009. You almost wish they just kept the magazine around until May when the Mag officially was 20 years old. End it with a big 20 year retrospective issue.
Wow, it was that close to 20 years? I can't believe they won't let them go on just to reach it. I always enjoyed their issues where they ranked the top 100 games of all time.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: broodwars on January 07, 2009, 02:04:37 PM
Well, Radio Trivia is sort of like Retronauts. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta....only without the special guests related to that episode's topic. Or a specific topic. FINE. But it IS retro!
Well, of course radio trivia is great. You do a great job with the podcast, and do discuss the games in great detail.
Still, hopefully Retronauts continues in some form, but I know that's probably not on Parish's mind at the moment (not blaming him)
Actually, it IS on his mind, as according to his latest blog post he's vowed to keep Retronauts going...somehow. He doesn't know how often or how long they can do them anymore, but he's said he's determined to still do that podcast.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 07, 2009, 02:17:32 PM
Well, Radio Trivia is sort of like Retronauts. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta....only without the special guests related to that episode's topic. Or a specific topic. FINE. But it IS retro!
Have you ever listened to Retronauts? The depth of knowledge from those guys is mind blowing. Parish, Kohler and Shane all know the most inconsequential details about these old games--so much that it's mind-blowing. The wealth of knowledge is enough to fill a book (in Kohler's case, literally (http://www.amazon.com/Power-Up-Japanese-Video-Games-World/dp/0744004241/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231355730&sr=8-3).
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
Meh, podcasts suck anyway.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Halbred on January 07, 2009, 03:14:32 PM
I've read EGM for years, and I didn't like how they were constantly changing the magazine's format. The older stuff was better, but it's not like I hate the new magazine. They're good people, and they have interesting interviews. I also liked Seanbaby.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 07, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
And yes, anyone cheering this announcement is pretty fracking cruel. You may not have agreed with their magazine, but that's a lot of people out of work now from the biggest gaming print company in the business. That's not good for anyone.
As to appear less douchey:
EGM as an entity is dead = Hoorah All the employees that lost their job because of it = sorry, i hope you all find work.
Better? not that i have any qualms about being labeled a douche by an anonymous poster
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on January 07, 2009, 09:00:52 PM
Well, Radio Trivia is sort of like Retronauts. Maybe. Kinda. Sorta....only without the special guests related to that episode's topic. Or a specific topic. FINE. But it IS retro!
Have you ever listened to Retronauts? The depth of knowledge from those guys is mind blowing. Parish, Kohler and Shane all know the most inconsequential details about these old games--so much that it's mind-blowing. The wealth of knowledge is enough to fill a book (in Kohler's case, literally (http://www.amazon.com/Power-Up-Japanese-Video-Games-World/dp/0744004241/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231355730&sr=8-3).
Yes, I have. And in no way am I claiming Radio Trivia begins to approach this sort of coverage of a topic. Hence, the tongue-in-cheek manner in which I wrote my comment.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 08, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
Meh, the people who were qualified but lost their jobs will probably be hired elswewhere, the rest... Well, I don't think anyone's gonna miss their articles.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 08, 2009, 10:02:36 AM
Meh, the people who were qualified but lost their jobs will probably be hired elswewhere, the rest... Well, I don't think anyone's gonna miss their articles.
Perfectly put.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 08, 2009, 02:02:14 PM
I just realized I used the phrase "mind-blowing" twice in two sentences. I guess my mind is officially blown.
Meh, the people who were qualified but lost their jobs will probably be hired elswewhere, the rest... Well, I don't think anyone's gonna miss their articles.
Couldn't you say that about anyone who loses a job? And yet, the unemployment rate in the USA is the highest it's been in 20 years. Just because you want to work doesn't mean someone will be willing to pay you for it.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 08, 2009, 02:09:06 PM
Meh, the people who were qualified but lost their jobs will probably be hired elswewhere, the rest... Well, I don't think anyone's gonna miss their articles.
Couldn't you say that about anyone who loses a job? And yet, the unemployment rate in the USA is the highest it's been in 20 years. Just because you want to work doesn't mean someone will be willing to pay you for it.
Thats true, even when the economy wasn't clogging the toilet, most places wouldn't hire someone that wanted to work and put 100% effort into it, and instead opted for those willing to put up with enough to keep getting paid everyweek ;)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Peachylala on January 08, 2009, 02:41:52 PM
Of course, they can find other work. I feel sorry for the people who lost their jobs.
EGM dying? Not at all.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: D_Average on January 09, 2009, 12:14:47 AM
I still received EGM up until now and the magazine couldn't even make it through a full dump. But that wasn't their fault, its just the nature of print. I will however, miss the website and podcasts as both were entertaining and insightful. They could be a bit pretentious at times, but who isn't. They still brought a different flavor to the gaming industry not addressed by IGN, and other blogs.
Best of luck to Garnett Lee and the new crew, it won't be easy!
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 09, 2009, 03:43:39 AM
Know what? I don't care if they don't get employed again. Their profession was rapidly dying anyway with everyone being able to write and publish on the internet so there's no need for an elite with access to the printing machine. Guess what, goofing off and writing troll articles or crappy reviews designed mertely to make people link to you in rage doesn't make your website known for quality and these days I can get crappy writing and overblown egos anywhere.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 03:57:27 AM
Know what? I don't care if they don't get employed again. Their profession was rapidly dying anyway with everyone being able to write and publish on the internet so there's no need for an elite with access to the printing machine. Guess what, goofing off and writing troll articles or crappy reviews designed mertely to make people link to you in rage doesn't make your website known for quality and these days I can get crappy writing and overblown egos anywhere.
Ouch.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 09, 2009, 06:37:45 AM
Hell, nowadays people consider forum posters to have more integrity than writers for large publications because the writers have a reputation for moneyhats.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 09, 2009, 09:40:02 AM
Know what? I don't care if they don't get employed again. Their profession was rapidly dying anyway with everyone being able to write and publish on the internet so there's no need for an elite with access to the printing machine. Guess what, goofing off and writing troll articles or crappy reviews designed mertely to make people link to you in rage doesn't make your website known for quality and these days I can get crappy writing and overblown egos anywhere.
Finally someone said it.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 09, 2009, 10:04:01 AM
You know which sites I REALLY want to see go under? Game Daily and Games radar.
Both are pretty much the VH1 of the gaming world (both fail to provide real content and both LOVE to make countdown lists. Really? CHEST HAIR IN GAMING?).
Both sites are run by gaming elitists who do nothing but write troll articles and their reviews are terrible. Worst of all, their sense of humor is retarded to say the least (LET'S MAKE FUN OF OLD PEOPLE PLAYING WII OR THE 360'S RROD!! YAAAAAY!).
If these were to disappear no one would be mourning them.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 09, 2009, 10:09:25 AM
You know which sites I REALLY want to see go under? Game Daily and Games radar.
Both are pretty much the VH1 of the gaming world (both fail to provide real content and both LOVE to make countdown lists. Really? CHEST HAIR IN GAMING?).
Both sites are run by gaming elitists who do nothing but write troll articles and their reviews are terrible. Worst of all, their sense of humor is retarded to say the least (LET'S MAKE FUN OF OLD PEOPLE PLAYING WII OR THE 360'S RROD!! YAAAAAY!).
If these were to disappear no one would be mourning them.
Maybe the EGM staff can work for them and make their trolling at least sound sophisticated.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 12:40:16 PM
Yeah, I TOTALLY AGREE!
It's always best to have the lives of a bunch of individuals turned on their head just so that it becomes impossible for me to accidentally navigate to a site I don't like! Hurray!
/sarcasm
Seriously people, get your heads out of the clouds. Luck and timing has just as much to do with landing a dream job as skill. If you think for one minute these people will all "easily" find jobs if they are "qualified" you have another thing coming.
I hope they all do, but it's still an absolutely terrible thing regardless.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 09, 2009, 12:53:02 PM
It's always best to have the lives of a bunch of individuals turned on their head just so that it becomes impossible for me to accidentally navigate to a site I don't like! Hurray!
/sarcasm
Seriously people, get your heads out of the clouds. Luck and timing has just as much to do with landing a dream job as skill. If you think for one minute these people will all "easily" find jobs if they are "qualified" you have another thing coming.
I hope they all do, but it's still an absolutely terrible thing regardless.
Um, was that aimed at me for my dislike of Game Daily or to the people that believe that the fired staff will get jobs soon?
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: D_Average on January 09, 2009, 01:21:32 PM
Ziff should have killed the mag years ago and focused on the website. Maybe they could have even called it, I don't know, "EGM", to eliminate diluting the brand. The podcasts have always been great, but I must say navigating through 1up was Tuuuurrible, just slightly better than Gamespot, which isn't saying much.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 01:32:55 PM
It's always best to have the lives of a bunch of individuals turned on their head just so that it becomes impossible for me to accidentally navigate to a site I don't like! Hurray!
/sarcasm
Seriously people, get your heads out of the clouds. Luck and timing has just as much to do with landing a dream job as skill. If you think for one minute these people will all "easily" find jobs if they are "qualified" you have another thing coming.
I hope they all do, but it's still an absolutely terrible thing regardless.
Yeah most don't even have the talent for another job. So I agree. Seriously if I was running a "professional" gaming publication I'm not sure I'd want to hire any of their writers.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 01:48:31 PM
/sigh
It was aimed at the general internet response to this whole thing of "good riddance, they sucked anyway." not at anyone in particular.
I just don't think it's a very nice thing to basically celebrate such a crummy thing, especially when none of us even know any of the people personally, so we aren't even qualified to comment on whether or not they "deserve" it.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 09, 2009, 01:54:56 PM
It's always best to have the lives of a bunch of individuals turned on their head just so that it becomes impossible for me to accidentally navigate to a site I don't like! Hurray!
/sarcasm
Seriously people, get your heads out of the clouds. Luck and timing has just as much to do with landing a dream job as skill. If you think for one minute these people will all "easily" find jobs if they are "qualified" you have another thing coming.
I hope they all do, but it's still an absolutely terrible thing regardless.
I don't think anyone said that the individuals losing their job isn't a terrible thing. And I'm sure everyone here who has landed any job knows how hard it can be, especially with things the way they are. There's no need for condescending sarcasm, from a moderator no less, directed to forum goers expressing they're personal opinions no matter what that opinion is.
I think the lot of us agree that EGM being dead is OK even if it is a terrible thing that tons of people lost their job. If gaming 'journalism' is their dream gig then they'll work hard to find a job in the field no matter how long it takes, but guess what.. when someone hiring looks at your review for Game X and doesn't see an ounce of journalistic proffesionalism and instead sees bias or baseless bashing, the fault for them not getting hired is theres and theres alone.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 02:03:36 PM
As I said it was a rant against the general internet response, not anyone in particular. And sarcasm is valuable when you want to point out how silly something is by phrasing it differently. I wouldn't really call that condescending.
I guess I just have a different take on this whole thing than most people. For example, I wouldn't be near as pissed about the whole thing if 1up/EGM just went out of business because they ran out of money or were run poorly....
But to buy another company only to lay off the vast majority of the staff... that's just heartless and cruel. IMO if they didn't want to run said company, they shouldn't have bought it.
I mean, listen to the December 26th episode of 1up Yours. They literally talk about their plans for a special new years episode in January. THAT'S how sudden this garbage was for them.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 02:09:13 PM
It was aimed at the general internet response to this whole thing of "good riddance, they sucked anyway." not at anyone in particular.
I just don't think it's a very nice thing to basically celebrate such a crummy thing, especially when none of us even know any of the people personally, so we aren't even qualified to comment on whether or not they "deserve" it.
Well you can judge what they've done for the site. There is a chance still that they could restructure and if they feel some of the talent is worth getting back they will. Restructuring HAS to happen with some companies, and while it is sad people lose their jobs, in the long term it can be a good thing.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 02:13:06 PM
I would agree if I felt 1up needed a restructuring.
But I fully believe that UGO bought them for one reason and one reason only. To close them down and eliminate the competition. If they do decide to keep anything from 1ups legacy, it is just icing on the cake. That wasn't the reason for the purchase. And that's just cruel.
Also, I blame Ziff just as much for being willing to sell to a company when that was the obvious motivation.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 09, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
It was aimed at the general internet response to this whole thing of "good riddance, they sucked anyway." not at anyone in particular.
I just don't think it's a very nice thing to basically celebrate such a crummy thing, especially when none of us even know any of the people personally, so we aren't even qualified to comment on whether or not they "deserve" it.
Well, here's my honest opinion on the matter.
Yes, its heartbreaking that all of those people were laid, especially since its likely they have families to support.
But the reason I believe people are "celebrating" their demise is because in the last few years they have shown a very negative attitide and people were getting tired of it.
If you read the gaming media here you'll see that they haven't been the brightest star out there. So, when people perceive negative vibes from something or someone their instict is to wish misfortune upon it and celebrate if it happens.
Its sad but true. No one deserves bad luck, no matter who they are. But when you piss people off its hard to gain their sympathy.
So to sum it up, gamers are celebrating their demise because they annoyed them for far too long and feel that justice is being served.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 02:17:40 PM
Well I guess the other half of my argument is that I disagree with labeling everyone at 1up as negative and bad journalists.
I listened to 1up yours and retronauts every time it came out. I watched the 1up show every time it came out.
While I never agree with everything they say, the production values and care in what they did was obvious. They enjoyed games. They enjoyed discussing games.
So yeah, I guess that's another reason for my response to all this. =P
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 02:23:50 PM
Well I guess the other half of my argument is that I disagree with labeling everyone at 1up as negative and bad journalists.
I listened to 1up yours and retronauts every time it came out. I watched the 1up show every time it came out.
While I never agree with everything they say, the production values and care in what they did was obvious. They enjoyed games. They enjoyed discussing games.
So yeah, I guess that's another reason for my response to all this. =P
Their reviews were atrocious, I don't know how many times I read a review there with their new system and didn't learn ANYTHING or even when it got a score. So yeah I'd say they needed restructuring, if not for that but for the fact they were losing money like crazy, and that always mean its time to restructure.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 09, 2009, 02:31:25 PM
As I said it was a rant against the general internet response, not anyone in particular. And sarcasm is valuable when you want to point out how silly something is by phrasing it differently. I wouldn't really call that condescending.
I guess I just have a different take on this whole thing than most people. For example, I wouldn't be near as pissed about the whole thing if 1up/EGM just went out of business because they ran out of money or were run poorly....
But to buy another company only to lay off the vast majority of the staff... that's just heartless and cruel. IMO if they didn't want to run said company, they shouldn't have bought it.
I mean, listen to the December 26th episode of 1up Yours. They literally talk about their plans for a special new years episode in January. THAT'S how sudden this garbage was for them.
Relax I wasn't really serious, i just saw an opportunity to 'yell' at one of you guys ;)
Even if you were replying to something i said, sarcasm or not, I wouldn't care because my opinion is mine and mine alone.
Besides, I'm well qualified in job hunting, being unemployed for almost a year before this economic meltdown we're having.
Edit: I can summarise Paps post, once again, in much fewer words: Karma. Same goes for Pales. Sure not EVERY person there was a crappy reviewer, so hopefully they'll have better luck finding work in the field they love.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 02:32:11 PM
Well I guess the other half of my argument is that I disagree with labeling everyone at 1up as negative and bad journalists.
I listened to 1up yours and retronauts every time it came out. I watched the 1up show every time it came out.
While I never agree with everything they say, the production values and care in what they did was obvious. They enjoyed games. They enjoyed discussing games.
So yeah, I guess that's another reason for my response to all this. =P
Their reviews were atrocious, I don't know how many times I read a review there with their new system and didn't learn ANYTHING or even when it got a score. So yeah I'd say they needed restructuring, if not for that but for the fact they were losing money like crazy, and that always mean its time to restructure.
I thought the only WiiMusic review you guys liked was theirs?
=P They must be doing something right... or aren't they???!!
Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnn
I kid, i kid.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
The Wii Music review wasn't that great either, at least the text portion, though I did like Jennifer but thankfully she left before the bomb went off. She actually had talent so she went someplace else. ;)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 02:35:02 PM
It's funny... I NEVER visited 1up.com. Just subscribed to their podcasts through itunes. So I can't really have an opinion on the quality of their reviews. =P
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 09, 2009, 02:36:10 PM
It's funny... I NEVER visited 1up.com. Just subscribed to their podcasts through itunes. So I can't really have an opinion on the quality of their reviews. =P
I am the opposite, I read their features and reviews but never heard the podcasts. Though I do wish I would have heard the retro podcast.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 09, 2009, 02:36:55 PM
See, their Wii Music review was a great example of how to do things right. They got someone who actually wanted to play the game. THAT'S the kind of restructuring they needed. But she left the site, and it went back to their old ways.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 09, 2009, 02:37:25 PM
I guess I just have a different take on this whole thing than most people. For example, I wouldn't be near as pissed about the whole thing if 1up/EGM just went out of business because they ran out of money or were run poorly....
But to buy another company only to lay off the vast majority of the staff... that's just heartless and cruel. IMO if they didn't want to run said company, they shouldn't have bought it.
Then think of it this way ... Ziff Davis ran out of money and had to shut down the company. Ugo saved what they could, but they honestly can't be expected to double their workforce, can they?
I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I can draw some parallels between this situation and the auto-industry bailout. How do you feel about giving GM $100 billion if they're going to continue to run the company the same way they currently are? It would be a waste because they're just going to be in the same predicament in 6 months. Things need to change in order for them to turn things around. Why would EGM and 1UP be profitable under Ugo if they ran things the exact same way as Ziff Davis?
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 09, 2009, 02:39:14 PM
I guess I just have a different take on this whole thing than most people. For example, I wouldn't be near as pissed about the whole thing if 1up/EGM just went out of business because they ran out of money or were run poorly....
But to buy another company only to lay off the vast majority of the staff... that's just heartless and cruel. IMO if they didn't want to run said company, they shouldn't have bought it.
Then think of it this way ... Ziff Davis ran out of money and had to shut down the company. Ugo saved what they could, but they honestly can't be expected to double their workforce, can they?
I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I can draw some parallels between this situation and the auto-industry bailout. How do you feel about giving GM $100 billion if they're going to continue to run the company the same way they currently are? It would be a waste because they're just going to be in the same predicament in 6 months. Things need to change in order for them to turn things around. Why would EGM and 1UP be profitable under Ugo if they ran things the exact same way as Ziff Davis?
Politics! Seriously I was going to make the same comparison but didn't want to get into that!
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 09, 2009, 02:42:43 PM
You listen to podcasts?
Their website was terrible, most of the articles I saw were troll news or reviews so short they were useless.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 09, 2009, 02:45:18 PM
You especially don't want to talk about the car industry with me. I can already tell you that you are completely wrong about GM and that the DID deserve any money they got and that they are getting a raw deal for a variety of reasons...
But you are right, we shouldn't talk about that here.
=P
Send me a PM if you really want to hear what I think on the matter. =P
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: EasyCure on January 09, 2009, 02:48:43 PM
It was aimed at the general internet response to this whole thing of "good riddance, they sucked anyway." not at anyone in particular.
I just don't think it's a very nice thing to basically celebrate such a crummy thing, especially when none of us even know any of the people personally, so we aren't even qualified to comment on whether or not they "deserve" it.
Am I the ONLY one who's never heard of UGO before this debacle? What the hell kind of name is UGO anyway, is sounds like a lame trading card game.
That is what I thought!
Alas, we're on the same page! ;)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Stogi on January 09, 2009, 05:17:55 PM
So is EGM the one that was taking bribes or the one that's illiterate?
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 09, 2009, 05:25:30 PM
A little from column A, a little from column B.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Kairon on January 09, 2009, 05:43:25 PM
I can't speak for EGM now, but I certainly didn't think they were a trashy magazine when I read them back in the late 64/early GC era. I thought they were actually pretty competent, for what they were.... at the time, I thought they were a commendable "mainstream" (i.e. Playstation era gamer) magazine.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 09, 2009, 05:52:53 PM
I can't speak for EGM now, but I certainly didn't think they were a trashy magazine when I read them back in the late 64/early GC era. I thought they were actually pretty competent, for what they were.... at the time, I thought they were a commendable "mainstream" (i.e. Playstation era gamer) magazine.
Well back then most videogame publications were still pretty good and reported on videogames in a nice way that wasn't bias as hell. It wasn't until 2002 that things started to change for the worse and most websites and publications became more like fanboy blogs.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Djunknown on January 09, 2009, 10:38:32 PM
If the gaming industry let EGM die then why does Future Publishing flourish, Future publishing said they started earning more money once they got the publishing rights of Nintendo Power, Official Playstation Magazine ,Official Xbox Magazine. And hey Future made Nintendo Power awesome again so I started subscribing again.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 10, 2009, 05:20:58 AM
Am I the ONLY one who's never heard of UGO before this debacle? What the hell kind of name is UGO anyway, is sounds like a lame trading card game.
That is what I thought!
Alas, we're on the same page! ;)
I never knew they had anything to do with games, at least. To me UGO seemed like another retard association like AOL.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 10, 2009, 05:33:00 AM
UGO tried to promote a gaming press network in the early years of the previous gen.
Now they mostly control web ads that are prevalent on many gaming press outlets.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Deguello on January 10, 2009, 02:21:17 PM
I'm kinda sick of people making a big deal about this being EGM's 20th year or that they are an "institution" or whatever. Management changes. Places change.
I never really read it that much but when I saw their Endless Ocean stunt I sorta knew they might end up paying for it somehow.
For those unfamiliar they basically refused to review Endless Ocean calling it a "non-game" and wrote a little paragraph trying to capitalize on this whole "Nintendo abandoning hardcore" meme that was running. What they didn't tell you was that Endless Ocean is the next game in a series known as Everblue on the PS2, and all those games were reviewed in EGM as "games." Some of the readers complained, and they spent a second issue "not-reviewing" this "non-game." That's when I sorta felt the magazine started pushing more people away and that was a pretty bad business model for a magazine.
So while nobody is celebrating the people out of jobs, they do sort of feel a justice was served. But what is probably a worse feeling is indifference, as the people they pushed away and labeled as non-gamers, grannies, casuals, whatever, probably never saw their magazine or were probably told not to read it by friendly core gamers after all that abuse they were given. So their demise probably registers as a non-event.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 10, 2009, 04:16:34 PM
Long story short: Karma. Do crap, you get crap.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Kairon on January 10, 2009, 04:25:20 PM
For those unfamiliar they basically refused to review Endless Ocean calling it a "non-game" and wrote a little paragraph trying to capitalize on this whole "Nintendo abandoning hardcore" meme that was running. What they didn't tell you was that Endless Ocean is the next game in a series known as Everblue on the PS2, and all those games were reviewed in EGM as "games."
Yeah... you know what? That's unpardonable. That's just... disgusting. Thanks for reminding me why I as a Nintendo gamer have never been sucked into whatever vision of gaming these types of magazines have been selling.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Urkel on January 10, 2009, 04:57:00 PM
It seemed so arbitrary to not review THAT "non-game", yet they reviewed other "non-games" like Nintendogs and Wii Fit without making a big stink. And considering that the amount of content in the magazine was getting smaller and smaller due to publishers not giving them stories, you'd think they'd want to fill the magazine with something. I think it was just a stunt to win them some Hardcore cred. Too bad that didn't sell magazines.
The funny thing is 1up actually reviewed Endless Ocean and gave it a good score.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 10, 2009, 06:51:09 PM
I forgot all about the Endless Ocean review. Yes I remember being quite disgusted.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: D_Average on January 10, 2009, 06:56:02 PM
If the gaming industry let EGM die then why does Future Publishing flourish, Future publishing said they started earning more money once they got the publishing rights of Nintendo Power, Official Playstation Magazine ,Official Xbox Magazine. And hey Future made Nintendo Power awesome again so I started subscribing again.
Well, I think the reason why these print magazines still exist is because they're targeted marketing. If you want to directly reach Nintendo fans and get the most bang for your advertising buck, you'd certainly choose Nintendo Power over a multi-platform magazine like EGM. I can see how EGM might feel the pinch there.
EGM probably should have shifted their focus a bit and became more of a gamer lifestyle magazine, think outside the box a bit, and court advertisers that aren't strictly game companies.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Mikintosh on January 11, 2009, 01:39:23 AM
Yeah, as someone who's been a Nintendo fan much longer than any other gaming company, I was always annoyed by EGM's blatant anti-Nintendo bias over the years, with next-to-no coverage of Gamecube & Game Boy/DS games and not even all that much Wii coverage, considering how popular the system's been. I don't think they were getting kickbacks from all the Playstation and Xbox games that they pimped on their cover every damn month for years (from GTA3 to Bioshock)...but they did run magazines for those systems, and they didn't for Nintendo. Made me a little cynical about their practices. However, they did have some good articles and they always had entertaining reviews (including Seanbaby, whom I've liked ever since his website back in the early '00s), but even then one of the main things that stick in my mind about EGM (and I don't remember if this was brought up here or elsewhere) is the douchebag comments that constantly were made in their letter column responses. Just disrespectful, sophomoric crap. During the brief period between Nintendo Power's revamp in 2005 and its sale to Future US last year, they aimed for a similarly sarcastic tone and it worked a lot better because they didn't have such contempt for their average reader. I thought that was telling of the competing attitudes of the two companies.
Overall, it's sad they're gone but they were losing their touch by the end of decade anyway.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: vudu on January 11, 2009, 10:02:08 AM
EGM probably should have shifted their focus a bit and became more of a gamer lifestyle magazine, think outside the box a bit, and court advertisers that aren't strictly game companies.
That strategy didn't work out so well for HardCore Gamer magazine (http://kotaku.com/5125001/want-to-buy-a-games-mag-hardcore-gamer-is-for-sale-on-ebay).
Print media is just a dying format. Especially when 90% of your readers are males age 14 to 30. This demographic eats, sleeps and breathes the Internet and we'll always choose something for free over something we pay for. Couple that with the fact that you get a free Game Informer subscription by joining GameStop's frequent buyer's program and EGM has been doomed to fail for quite some time. (Who needs two magazines that are pretty close substitutes?)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Kairon on January 11, 2009, 04:21:23 PM
I will be a Nintendo Power subscriber for life.
... hmmm... I wonder if that says more about me, or Nintendo Power.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 11, 2009, 07:01:57 PM
Well, apparently being a strictly multi-platform game magazine wasn't working for EGM either, so whatever. Hardcore Gamer didn't exactly sound like it was trying to reach out to a broad audience, either. No wonder it went under.
Print media isn't dead, but it's definitely a dying market for all but the most mainstream media outlets. Ten years down the line it'll probably be newspapers and tabloids, and that's about it.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Kairon on January 11, 2009, 07:17:49 PM
Well, apparently being a strictly multi-platform game magazine wasn't working for EGM either, so whatever. Hardcore Gamer didn't exactly sound like it was trying to reach out to a broad audience, either. No wonder it went under.
Print media isn't dead, but it's definitely a dying market for all but the most mainstream media outlets. Ten years down the line it'll probably be newspapers and tabloids, and that's about it.
I don't know, I can't imagine a future without dedicated periodicals like Time, Discover Magazine, or National Geographic. I think print media will just need to focus on what it can do best, which isn't to aggregate news, but find a way to convince us that it's meaningful and valuable.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 11, 2009, 07:20:04 PM
I'd toss Time, Discover, and NatGeo into that "mainstream" category that I mentioned. But stuff catering to techie niches is going to be all web.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 12, 2009, 05:31:13 AM
Yeah, it depends a bit on the target market anyway. Gamers are likely to be online while NatGeo readers aren't so likely to use online heavily (because in part they'll want to access the information when they aren't in front of the computer). Gamers also want information on things fast (like reviews) and that just doesn't work well with a monthly schedule (either you get a preview build very early or you're going to be weeks late, a website that pisses a publisher off can at least buy its games retail).
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Djunknown on January 12, 2009, 11:49:40 PM
Destructoid gets some answers from 2 important people. (http://www.destructoid.com/destructoid-interview-ugo-s-michael-mccracken-and-1up-s-sam-kennedy-117790.phtml)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: D_Average on January 13, 2009, 02:38:01 PM
Anyone here like Edge? Thats the only mag I bother to read these days, that is, when I'm at a Borders, b/c the damn things is so expensive! But yeah, their features are actually very well written and quite in depth. On top of that, there is so much content in each issue, you're bound to find something interesting.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 13, 2009, 03:41:30 PM
EDGE?!?! They are the moneyhat magazine they only give good reviews if the publisher gives them a generous tip. When a magazine gives Sonic The Hedgehog(2006) a 9.0 and Golden Axe (PS3/360) a 9.5 while they take a crap on good games you know there's something seriously wrong. The only reason that magazine is expensive is because they don't put ads in the magazine and the size of the magazine is fairly big.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: KDR_11k on January 13, 2009, 05:15:51 PM
Edge is listed as giving Sonic '06 a score of 3/10 on GameRankings, are you sure that number is accurate? Then again the listed one is marked UK, I thiink I heard something about the UK version being the only one that's reputable. Can't find an entry for Golden Axe: Beast Rider at all.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: D_Average on January 13, 2009, 06:18:51 PM
EDGE?!?! They are the moneyhat magazine they only give good reviews if the publisher gives them a generous tip. When a magazine gives Sonic The Hedgehog(2006) a 9.0 and Golden Axe (PS3/360) a 9.5 while they take a crap on good games you know there's something seriously wrong. The only reason that magazine is expensive is because they don't put ads in the magazine and the size of the magazine is fairly big.
I'm not sure if those numbers are accurate, but I've always found Edge to be overtly critical of all games (at least the reviews I come across). And this is one reason I like Edge, because they're cranky like I am. I figure if they like it, I may as well give it a shot. 8)
Plus, they are the mother of the late and great Next Generation, the best video game mag EVA!! (http://www.menstuff.org/books/coversmisc/nextgen.jpg)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 13, 2009, 06:48:23 PM
Oops my bad that was play magazine that I was thinking about with those reviews. But some a lot of the edge reviews are horrid.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 17, 2009, 02:38:45 AM
http://gonintendo.com/?p=69410#more-69410 Shane Bettenhausen has got a job at Ignition Entertainment They made Mercury Meltdown Revolution.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2009, 04:51:47 AM
God I loved Next-Gen. They were such a great magazine that I even forgave them for their slight trend away from Nintendo (nowhere near as bad as today's N-hate though) and I even forgave them for giving Conker's Bad Fur Day 3 stars.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 17, 2009, 10:18:14 AM
Game Players was the best magazine ever, why lie?
(Ironically enough, the editor of the current Nintendo Power, Chris Slate, was the editor of Game Players as well...)
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: D_Average on January 17, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
Once Dan left it was evident to all the end was near.
Exactly. This is something that's been coming for almost a year now. It's no coincidence that several higher-ups have left the company recently (such as Show, Jennifer Tsao, etc.).
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: Pale on January 19, 2009, 02:55:04 PM
They may have seen the writing on the wall, but I don't necessarily think there was an actual honest warning for them.
Otherwise other high ups, like Garnet, wouldn't have been so surprised by it.
Title: Re: UGO boughtout the 1UP network, EGM closes it's doors
Post by: D_Average on January 19, 2009, 03:15:23 PM
