I didn't know anything about this show, but I have my DVR set to record anything with "Batman" (it was awesome when it recorded Spanish "Batman Forever"... it was better to watch than the English version!)... When I saw the first episode on there, I was like "Wha...?" - Watched it and halfway through, I was online looking for all the info I could find... I can't wait to see more of this season. I'd like to see a Superman: The Brave and the Bold...
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Post by: nickmitch on January 03, 2009, 11:04:17 PM
I only recently saw commercials for this. I'm looking forward to catching up and then following the show. It looks amazing. Sort of like a health cross between Batman: The Animated Series and Justice League Unlimited.
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Post by: ThePerm on January 03, 2009, 11:15:24 PM
no, but i want to. Nothing like The Batman is it..because i want to stay the hell away from that. My favorite iteration of Batman is still TAS, and it its anything like TAS than i'm in.
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Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2009, 12:11:29 AM
You know, I only caught the later seasons of The Batman and it wasn't awful. It was no TAS by any means, but it wasn't horrible.
As for BatB, it's not TAS... at all. It's closer to the 60's Adam West Batman or Super Friends Batman *if* I had to pick. It's really good though.
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Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2009, 12:25:55 AM
hehe i like Campy 60s batman, i used to watch it on FX every day, back when FX only aired old shows.
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Post by: nickmitch on January 04, 2009, 12:51:50 AM
I watched the first episode, and it wasn't like TAS at all. I still liked it, but it just kind of reminded me how much I don't like the new Blue Beetle.
It's really good; I just wish it could be a little less "toony."
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 06, 2009, 08:21:40 PM
I haven't seen this though I have been watching the Clone Wars and have been impressed with how much they are allowed to do with the show (Chopping off Stormtrooper heads or impaling them with a lightsaber anyone?). It is also well written. I'll have to try watching the new batman though.
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Post by: bustin98 on January 06, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
I'd like to see this new Batman show but I think I'm going to have to wait till DVD.
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Post by: UncleBob on January 30, 2009, 11:15:31 PM
OH MY GOD!
Tonight's episode - "Journey to the Center of the Bat" - was AWESOME. I love this Aquaman. Seriously.
I want an Aquaman show based on this character.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 30, 2009, 11:42:47 PM
Hah, I was thinking of bumping this thread because I am head over heels IN LOVE with this series.
The one episode that really did it was "Enter the outsiders", with Wildcat. They worked great together.
Tonight's episode was indeed awesome. I just love Aquaman's last line. And yes, this version is Aquaman is great.
I think the show is kind of a mix between 60s Batman and new age Batman. The concept, characters, villain and such are ripped right out of Adam West's sweetest dreams, while Batman himself is still moody and grumpy. Its why the team ups work so well!
Its hard to choose which team up is the best since they all work great. Wildcat would be a personal fave, but Aquaman is too awesome to ignore.
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Post by: UncleBob on January 31, 2009, 12:20:31 AM
Its hard to choose which team up is the best since they all work great. Wildcat would be a personal fave, but Aquaman is too awesome to ignore.
Tonight's Elasticman/Plastic Man team up was loads of fun. My favorite so far.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on February 01, 2009, 12:58:46 PM
The Brave and The Bold is a very interesting cartoon. We have had over 10 years of darker themed Batman cartoons for so long, that this is such a refreshing and crazy show.
I love the personalities that take the main themes and character traits of the heroes and really create comical extremes for the heroes.
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Post by: Stogi on February 09, 2009, 01:37:28 AM
I've only caught a couple of episodes, but it's the best new cartoon on TV, that's fur sher.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 09, 2009, 01:58:25 AM
I've only caught a couple of episodes, but it's the best new cartoon on TV, that's fur sher.
Wolverine and the X-men is quite good as well, but I am really enjoying this show as well. It is campy but extremely well animated with fun action scenes (Needs more of the female superheroes though!).
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 09, 2009, 02:57:53 AM
I've only caught a couple of episodes, but it's the best new cartoon on TV, that's fur sher.
Wolverine and the X-men is quite good as well, but I am really enjoying this show as well. It is campy but extremely well animated with fun action scenes (Needs more of the female superheroes though!).
I didn't notice that!
Which B-list heroine could Batman team up with? What's the name of that Magician girl? I recall her appearing in an episode of Justice League Unlimited in which he helps Batman trying to turn Wonder Woman into a human...and has him sing "Am I blue?".
I think there were rumors about Catwoman showing up in an episode.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 09, 2009, 03:12:53 AM
Well there is Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Black Canary, Catwoman, Huntress, and Hawkgirl. I also think there was an aquagirl as well.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 09, 2009, 12:43:51 PM
Wonder Woman might be excluded since the show is all about the obscure, b-list villains. Batman has already teamed up with the Justice League. The rest, however, could work.
Huntress is, supposedly, confirmed to be on the show.
As for Wonder Woman - they've teamed Batman with Aquaman - and I wouldn't consider Aquaman B-List...
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 10, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
Wonder Woman might be excluded since the show is all about the obscure, b-list villains. Batman has already teamed up with the Justice League. The rest, however, could work.
Huntress is, supposedly, confirmed to be on the show.
As for Wonder Woman - they've teamed Batman with Aquaman - and I wouldn't consider Aquaman B-List...
Aquaman was hilarious. I felt so sorry for Platelet
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Post by: Khushrenada on February 10, 2009, 01:17:55 PM
I've only caught a couple of episodes, but it's the best new cartoon on TV, that's fur sher.
Wolverine and the X-men is quite good as well, but I am really enjoying this show as well. It is campy but extremely well animated with fun action scenes (Needs more of the female superheroes though!).
I didn't notice that!
Which B-list heroine could Batman team up with? What's the name of that Magician girl? I recall her appearing in an episode of Justice League Unlimited in which he helps Batman trying to turn Wonder Woman into a human...and has him sing "Am I blue?".
I think there were rumors about Catwoman showing up in an episode.
That would be Zatanna.
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Post by: AV on February 11, 2009, 07:45:28 PM
Batman Brave and the Bold It's for babies.
THE PLOTS ARE VERY WATERED DOWN, and GENERIC and the Animation is primitive.
Batman: The Animated Series & Batman Beyond were excellent shows. Justice League Unlimited, Superman Animated Series are great shows as well.
Bruce Timm knows how to make excellent comic book tv shows and direct to dvd movies. He is not working on this TV show and the quality really shows.
This show is almost as bad as "The Batman" that was one a few years ago. It's just so focused toward kids, it feels like the same people who make Ben 10 and crap like that.
Go watch Superman Doomsday, Justice League New Frontier, and Batman: Gotham Knight and try to watch "brave and bold" and you won't be able to go back.
I hate to sound like a fanboy for Bruce Timm but he knows how to make plots that are well made and simple enough for a child to understand but an adult won't feel insulted for watching.
Bruce Timm knows action, story, and how to use characters well. Batman Brave and Bold is Garbage PERIOD.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on February 12, 2009, 12:13:57 AM
Batman Brave and The Bold is not for children. It is for an older audience that remembers a very classic traditional Batman from the 60s and 70s.
It plays on a unique style and is brilliant. Yes it is playful and at times absurd, but it is fun. We have had years and years of dark animated Batman, lets explore another side of the character and see something different.
I love the Red Tornado Christmas episode.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 12, 2009, 12:06:44 PM
I like Adam West's Batman, but The Brave and the Bold didn't grab me. I think the impression that it's just for kids comes from the first episode, and I wouldn't blame anyone for not giving it a chance after that. The tired, predictable, recycled plot did not make a good first impression. I gave it another chance and watched a few more episodes, including the excellent Aquaman one, but in the end I didn't feel like it was worth my time.
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Post by: AV on February 12, 2009, 06:52:43 PM
Batman Brave and The Bold is not for children. It is for an older audience that remembers a very classic traditional Batman from the 60s and 70s.
It plays on a unique style and is brilliant. Yes it is playful and at times absurd, but it is fun. We have had years and years of dark animated Batman, lets explore another side of the character and see something different.
I love the Red Tornado Christmas episode.
Batman was never meant to be goofy, this just reminds me to much of Super Friends and I can't stand that garbage.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 12, 2009, 07:05:54 PM
Batman Brave and The Bold is not for children. It is for an older audience that remembers a very classic traditional Batman from the 60s and 70s.
It plays on a unique style and is brilliant. Yes it is playful and at times absurd, but it is fun. We have had years and years of dark animated Batman, lets explore another side of the character and see something different.
I love the Red Tornado Christmas episode.
Batman was never meant to be goofy, this just reminds me to much of Super Friends and I can't stand that garbage.
Depends Batman has been both dark and tongue in cheek through his comic book career. The current incarnations of Batman or more based off the presentation of him in the Dark Knight comics. Like any superhero they go through different ages where the character is presented differently, it is silly and closed minded to say they weren't "meant" to be any particular style especially when a character like Batman went through a less serious period. If you consider the original interpretation of Batman as what he was "meant" to be, then you better give him an oozy so he can mow down any criminal that gets in his way because the original batman had no remorse when it came to killing or using guns.
Superheroes change and evolve, you may not like various generational incarnations, but to say it wasn't meant to be is kind of contradictory considering many of the interpretations were are familiar with now in regards to Superheroes only recently were established.
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Post by: AV on February 12, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
I concede your point Golden Phoenix, I'm just used to him being such a way for all my life. Just like I hate with a passion Gene Hackman's Lex Luther. In olden days he was a mad scientist with goons. Now Lex Luthor is a corrupt evil man who has ran and won the Presidency, and hates Superman with a passion where before. Smallvilles Lex is so damn perfect vision of modern Lex that watching the 70's Superman movies is hard because of the older version of lex.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 12, 2009, 09:45:39 PM
I think the reason Mr. Vega sees Batman as just a dark character is because of the darkening period the comic book industry went through back in the late 80s. Ironically, it was Batman who kick started this trend. They realized that they were making a lot of money with the older fans and their appreciation for the darker works, but left a lot of younger readers behind. Since then the industry has been struggling to find new readers outside their core consumers.
I personally enjoy both Batman the funny hero and Batman the dark hero. With the dark hero I get a lot of well written drama, character development and I see Batman as the human being rather than the super hero. With goofy Batman you have a lot of fun, meet a lot of weird characters and go on great adventures.
It might be hard to enjoy and appreciate two versions of the same characters but it is possible.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 12, 2009, 09:51:52 PM
Oh and Mr. Vega, your first post wasn't needed. You could have just said "I prefer the older shows", but you instead insisted on being obnoxious about it.
Next time, if you want to criticize a show or game, there's no need to make a spectacle about it. Just say "I'm not a fan, here's why" and keep it civil.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on February 12, 2009, 10:27:15 PM
We can and should have room for both. If the Brave and the Bold Batman was the only representation of Batman we had I would be sad. At the same time if The Dark Knight Batman is the only representation of Batman we had I would be sad.
I personally love Lex Luthor as both the businessman that is kinda corrupt but at the same time revered by man because of his success, which makes him hard for Superman to take down. But I also love the Mad Scientist Lex Luthor which is a genius that will do whatever he can to take down Superman. But the merging of those 2 personalities makes the best Lex Luthor of all.
Which gets to my point...a merging of serious Batman and lighthearted Batman is a great direction. I don't like the portrayal of Batman as always having deeply rooted psychological that drives him to be Batman and Bruce Wayne is just an empty shell. I like the Batman that has thought this out and is more balanced than that.
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Post by: UncleBob on February 12, 2009, 10:55:09 PM
For the record, I think Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (Unedited version) is the best Batman movie ever.
But, as others have said, there is room for both the dark and crazy Batman and the fun and lighthearted Batman.
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Post by: Uncle Bob on February 13, 2009, 12:48:54 PM
I think what too many people are missing is that, although the series is a more light hearted take on The Bat, Batman, for the most part, still plays the straightman in the show. Aside from his batter with Green Arrow, Batman is usually composed and always evaluating the situation. SO he's not dark, gritty and doesn't talk like two cheese graiters being rubbed together. He's still the World's Greatest Detective because he knows when to let the SuperHero shine and he knows when he needs to step up to the plate.
And anyone who doesn't think lightheartedness works with Batman needs to go back and watch TAS episodes with Harly. Oh, who created her?
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 13, 2009, 01:14:59 PM
Harley was created for TAS by Dini and Timm.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 16, 2009, 12:19:25 AM
Here's something funny.
Mr. Vega claimed the show was aimed at kids because of the sometimes silly stories and less serious character development. He clearly prefers the darker take on Batman.
What I find funny is that Batman's vision has been discussed in the series. In both the Bruce Timm TV series and the anime movie "Gotham Knight" there is one episode in which a group of kids discuss Batman and explain to each other how they view Batman. One kid sees him as 60s's Batman, complete with the humor and the color of the era. In the Anime movie one kid sees him as a bat monster, complete with red eyes and superhuman abilities.
I think these stories are saying that Batman is a legend, one that has taken many forms throughout the years. This can be applied to our world and how DC and its artists have envisioned Batman throughout the years. Its why despite him having multiple personas and identities he's still a beloved and respected hero because in the end, he still catches the bad guys and comes out on top; whether he is being campy or absolutely serious.
Going back to "Brave and the Bold" being for babies just be thankful DC has (http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/images/upload/marvel-babies-web.jpg) yet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMCuDhoblc&feature=channel_page) to (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJmGhUOg8h8&feature=channel_page) do (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp0Gz866aPg&feature=channel_page) this... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hdA_VVZgS4&feature=channel_page)
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Post by: ThePerm on February 24, 2009, 01:00:17 AM
I concede your point Golden Phoenix, I'm just used to him being such a way for all my life. Just like I hate with a passion Gene Hackman's Lex Luther. In olden days he was a mad scientist with goons. Now Lex Luthor is a corrupt evil man who has ran and won the Presidency, and hates Superman with a passion where before. Smallvilles Lex is so damn perfect vision of modern Lex that watching the 70's Superman movies is hard because of the older version of lex.
i loved Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor, but i can see a different version of Lex that could be better.
and Psp64 said it best Batman is a legend
he is the greatest American icon, although i have to say Superman is just insanely hard to do..and he would be if done right...
I loved superman as a kid, and watching that DarkSeid clip gave me some ideas..what I really love nowadays is Superman's Alex Ross paintings
which seems like a composite of Christoper Reeve and George Reeves and supermans original appearence
http://www.nirvanaclub.com/news/reeve.jpg top of head http://www.twinsoulsmerging.com/images/superman.jpg bottom of head
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 24, 2009, 04:32:17 AM
Besides Rousembaum I think Clancy Brown was a great Lex Luthor (well he did the voice!).
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Post by: UncleBob on March 13, 2009, 10:16:40 PM
Maybe it's because the last two episodes were just so damn frickin' awesome, but tonight's episode just didn't do much for me. I liked the inclusion of Adam Strange, but the solution to the episode kinda fell flat on me. I know I'm supposed to suspend my disbelief and all, but come on! Taking the Earth's Moon and zipping it across the universe? Wouldn't that cause some major issues with the oceans and the tides and crap? Why not take one of Jupiter's? It's got like 63 or some ****... and two of them are bigger than planets!!! No water or life to worry about or anything...
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 13, 2009, 10:21:37 PM
I completely missed the Joker episode. :(
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 13, 2009, 11:55:25 PM
The Green Lantern and Joker episodes were great. In the Joker episode I liked how Batman tricked the Joker and all of those different Batmen came from different dimensions.
Batman and his small team of the Green lanterns were great.
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Post by: ThePerm on March 15, 2009, 04:35:12 AM
i checked out a clip from youtube, looks like a show thats more funny than anything. Something like Darkwing duck with DC characters
I noticed the voice was different than Kevin Conroy and was good, than Ilooked it up and the voice of batman is Deidrich Bader. Nowi can just imagine batman saying "Fuckin' A"
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Post by: UncleBob on March 22, 2011, 12:26:43 AM
Mega bump...
Anyone still watching this with me? Season 1 Part 2 came out on DVD last week. Picked it up and I'm finally watching back through Part 1 and plan to go into 2...
The Superman/Batman team up episode is supposed to air this week, with the Scooby-Doo team up on April 1st...
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Post by: ThePerm on March 22, 2011, 12:56:25 AM
im just hoping they don't cancel Outsourced. I like it Deidrich Bader is employed.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 22, 2011, 01:02:18 AM
Aquaman is my hero.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 24, 2011, 01:48:47 AM
haha... Aquaman has a tiny penis. I wonder if this episode will ever air in the US - I'd love to see it. :D
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Post by: UncleBob on March 25, 2011, 12:44:58 PM
"Was the singing really necessary?"
Such a great episode of TB&TB. :D And yet, it's the epitome of why some people just really hate the series. How weird. :D
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Post by: nickmitch on March 25, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
I gotta start watching this again. Apparently all the good episodes come out when I'm not watching it. >_>
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Post by: UncleBob on March 25, 2011, 11:05:48 PM
Tonight's episode was... okay. Not a fan of TB&TB version of Superman. With Batman, they've taken the right mix of retro and modern to make him an interesting character. Superman was far too retro to be very interesting. With that said, there were lots of little bits in it that made me chuckle.
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Post by: oohhboy on March 29, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
I got to met James Tucker(Producer) last year and thanked him for helping make such a fun cartoon and wished him to make more (He said the next series will be "darker"). It was clear he isn't the creative one as he had the creativity and charisma of a wooden plank especially if you compare it to who he was partnered up with during the panels(Bender/Aquaman).
That episode guest staring NPH is also my favorite. So whimsical.
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Post by: UncleBob on August 28, 2011, 09:17:05 PM
Season 2 Part 1 came out on DVD last week.
I really wonder if Season 2 Part 2 will include the "banned from the US" episode.
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Post by: UncleBob on August 29, 2011, 06:57:46 PM
BATMAN DOES NOT EAT NACHOS!
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Post by: Morari on August 29, 2011, 08:58:42 PM
No nachos? Why would anyone even be interested in the character then? :o
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Post by: UncleBob on August 30, 2011, 11:11:12 PM
Batman says that while Batman is eating nachos. That's why.
Chill of the Night - such a great episode. This one-ups Batman Begins for the fact that it shows the movie that young Wayne sees the night his parents die as Zorro. This is a very important aspect of Batman's backstory... something Batman Begins screwed up. :(
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Post by: UncleBob on September 09, 2011, 11:56:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Batman wears pants...
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Post by: UncleBob on November 20, 2011, 01:16:26 AM
So, the final episode of BTBATB aired this past week in the US (Unless they go back and air the previously "banned" episode they skipped).
The episode itself fell a little flat - however, as a series finale, it was beautiful.
There was a hint of music playing at the end that I *knew* I knew... couldn't place it forever, until I finally realized (many, many hours later) that it was from the Music Meister episode... Nice touch.
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Post by: nickmitch on November 20, 2011, 03:13:28 PM
Wait, the show's over? That sucks.
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Post by: Ceric on November 21, 2011, 03:04:57 PM
Hmmm... I hope this shows up on Netflix soon. I want to watch the whole thing from start to finish. I think I've watched half. (Yes, I've seen the Music Meister Episode which is a hoot.)
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Post by: oohhboy on November 25, 2011, 09:00:03 PM
That's a real shame. I just watched Batman and Abraham Lincoln battle a steam powered cyborg John Wilkes Booth. SO fucked up, yet so right.
Edit: Aww bugger, it's the last episode and it didn't even get a full season. Great episode. Also: (http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4065/38665510150380058463772.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/38665510150380058463772.jpg/)
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Post by: Lithium on November 26, 2011, 12:17:27 AM
slightly related: I'm watching Batman TAS (the 90s one) and holy crap is this show bad ass.
DAT INTRO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-u07UEDT5I)
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Post by: oohhboy on November 26, 2011, 12:39:10 AM
That show was Saturday morning crack for me. It is the standard all Batman cartoons are measured by. None have measured up. But the Brave and the Bold gets a free pass since it would be like comparing apples to steak, they are both foods(Batman), but are so different you can eat both and love them.
