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Title: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Chessa on December 18, 2008, 04:05:28 PM
Bob's Quest Developer refuses to leave room until Nintendo addresses his application for official developer status.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=17421

 Robert Pelloni has spent the last five years of his life creating a DS Homebrew title, aptly named Bob's Quest.    


The 2-D adventure game is set in modern times and contains about twenty hours of gameplay. Pelloni is actually not asking Nintendo to publish the title, he merely wants action on his application for licensed developer status and a DS Nitro software development kit. Without the kit, Pelloni is ineligible for publisher support as development was done through homebrew means. However, he says that "many third-party publishers are interested."    


Seeking to draw attention to his plight, and a response from Nintendo that is two months overdue, Pelloni has locked himself in his room, with his webpage providing live images of him 24/7 at the computer. He lacks a connection to the internet (he updates his website through cellphone) and is given meals when requested. He plans to stay there for 100 days in protest hoping Nintendo will hear his plea and send him the kit he needs to complete 5 years of his life's work.

Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: oohhboy on December 19, 2008, 12:39:04 AM
His game better be bloody good. However, it couldn't hurt Nintendo to throw him a bone.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on December 19, 2008, 01:06:34 AM
It is not his right to get a SDK. However, failing to respond to an application is rude and unfair on NOA's part. Granted, NOA has the right to deny this developer, but if he has the funding to purchase a dev kit, how does that hurt Nintendo to sell him one?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 19, 2008, 01:13:27 AM
It is not his right to get a SDK. However, failing to respond to an application is rude and unfair on NOA's part. Granted, NOA has the right to deny this developer, but if he has the funding to purchase a dev kit, how does that hurt Nintendo to sell him one?

Nintendo wants to make sure a company has the talent. Wii kits are only $2,000 but they won't give them to just anyone.

5 years making the game? How was he working on it 11 months before the DS came out. Hell, Nintendo only ANNOUNCED that they would be making a new handheld system in November 2003 (1 month before he started).
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: UncleBob on December 19, 2008, 01:17:28 AM
To be fair, he could have started it as a GBA game.  It's my understanding that NTR Development is, on a very basic level, very similar to AGB Development...
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 19, 2008, 01:34:13 AM
Have you guys heard of this game before?I have.If you want I can tell you about it.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 19, 2008, 01:58:20 AM
Here is this guys website
http://www.bobsgame.com


http://youtube.com/watch?v=FHG9Sva6B3c
^Intro gameplay

There is 2 more vids on youtube.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Smoke39 on December 19, 2008, 02:15:00 AM
He should just port it to the PC and release it via some digital distribution platform.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: ShyGuy on December 19, 2008, 03:25:23 AM
Maybe it requires two screens?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Urkel on December 19, 2008, 03:28:46 AM
If anything this little stunt may hurt his chances to get a devkit.

Nintendo might be worried that every nut with a game idea will start doing something crazy to get their attention, and they wouldn't want to encourage that.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Smoke39 on December 19, 2008, 03:40:24 AM
Maybe it requires two screens?
Pretty sure the vertical resolution of most computer monitors is well over that of the DS's screens combined... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 19, 2008, 01:14:21 PM
If anything this little stunt may hurt his chances to get a devkit.

Nintendo might be worried that every nut with a game idea will start doing something crazy to get their attention, and they wouldn't want to encourage that.

This.

If acting like a nut swayed Nintendo, everyone would start doing it.

Headlines would read, "Annoying Emo Threatens To Slash His Wrists Unless Nintendo Gives him a Wii Devkit."
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: stevey on December 19, 2008, 01:28:23 PM
Come on Nintendo give him a DS SDK, hell give him a DSi kit and make it a download game...
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: AV on December 19, 2008, 06:54:12 PM
why can't he just sell it illegally online ? Put in on R4 or something and sell it like that.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: oohhboy on December 19, 2008, 07:21:53 PM
why can't he just sell it illegally online ? Put in on R4 or something and sell it like that.

Maybe just because he wants to go legit? Besides, how do you sell something on a platform that equates to piracy? (R4, not DS)
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: UncleBob on December 19, 2008, 07:31:30 PM
Why would it be illegal for him to sell the game via download?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 19, 2008, 09:10:45 PM
If anything this little stunt may hurt his chances to get a devkit.

Nintendo might be worried that every nut with a game idea will start doing something crazy to get their attention, and they wouldn't want to encourage that.

This.

If acting like a nut swayed Nintendo, everyone would start doing it.

Headlines would read, "Annoying Emo Threatens To Slash His Wrists Unless Nintendo Gives him a Wii Devkit."

See, for a while there was an epidemic around here in which men would climb up buildings and construction machines and threaten to kill themselves if they didn't get the attention they deserve.

It all started because one man wanted to see his kids badly and no matter how hard he tried he was denied visitation rights. He climbed up a building and threatened to kill himself unless he received the help he needed. He was eventually brought down and got a lot of psychological and legal help.

Since then, any man that wants to see his kid climbs up something and threatens to kill himself, cheapening the effect and blurring the line between desperation and being an attention whore.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: ShyGuy on December 19, 2008, 09:14:05 PM
Isn't this guy an Autistic?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Caliban on December 19, 2008, 09:17:56 PM
he says that "many third-party publishers are interested."

Really? Then why doesn't one of these 3rd party publishers give him one. Why does it have to be Nintendo. Let the 3rd party publisher hire him, and lend him a development kit.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: oohhboy on December 19, 2008, 09:48:21 PM
Why would it be illegal for him to sell the game via download?

It wouldn't be illegal, however the device that is needed to sell his product on is simi legal, at least in purpose. Also it is only a tiny subset of a much larger market who's demographic is either pirates or home-brewers. Also there is no infrastructure for him to use to sell his game. In this case, he is far better off finding a publisher than to try to sell it himself. As you can tell, this guy is no salesman.

That said, he has a basis of a game, but not a game yet. He will need help to flesh the game out.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Urkel on January 04, 2009, 04:26:50 AM
So did anyone bother looking at this guy's webpage? (http://www.bobsgame.com)

I'm convinced he has some legitimate mental disorder.

Wanna know his reason for not releasing this as homebrew? Because he's afraid doing so might ruin Nintendo. No, really.

Quote
Why is Nintendo releasing the DSi?
It has a few extra features, yes- but there is much debate over whether these features justify buying a whole new console.
The primary purpose of the DSi is probably as a countermeasure to battle the compatibility and availability of "homebrew-enabling devices."

Why would Nintendo need to do this? They're "printing money," aren't they?
Nintendo reportedly only makes $6 per Wii unit sold, and believe it or not- third party Wii sales are not satisfactory!
The highest selling games are all by Nintendo themselves- this is fine for a software company, but not for a console manufacturer.
It's the third party sales that generate the profit Nintendo needs to stay afloat!

In other words, Nintendo makes a very significant portion of their revenue from the sale of third-party DS titles.
Unfortunately, these sales are being affected by the recent popularity of "homebrew devices," and Nintendo has attempted to crack down on them.
There are a few legitimate options for those who wish to run homebrew software- such as the Datel Games 'N' Music cartridge, which I develop on.
Unfortunately, these carts reportedly do not function on the DSi. Nintendo has locked out legitimate homebrew!

The only options left are unauthorized carts, often used primarily for running commercial software- which justifies Nintendo's crackdown.
There are many good homebrew software titles available, but few commercial-quality homebrew games- and definitely no KILLER APP.
"bob's game" may possibly become the first significant legitimate reason to own one of these carts!

In these times of severe economic turmoil (especially in Japan) Nintendo needs the DSi to work.
A company of their size cannot operate for long in such a climate with diving profits!

If "bob's game" is released worldwide as a KILLER APP homebrew title, this could potentially lead to the DSi becoming completely useless as a countermeasure.
These devices may become even more widespread, available, and abundant than ever before- if the demand for a legitimate use was high enough.
This is simply my own line of reasoning- the reason why I do not want to release "bob's game" as homebrew software!
I don't want to damage Nintendo! That would be terrible!

Wow. This guy's never getting a devkit.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2009, 10:57:47 AM
Oh, wow, another one of those idiots.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 04, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
I think he is the next Luc Bernard except that Luc Bernard supposedly made a company that makes Wiiware and iPhone games now.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
How about the next Derek Smart?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Kairon on January 04, 2009, 11:50:47 PM
Yeah, in the last couple weeks he's made some pretty outlandish statements That make me facepalm.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Arbok on January 05, 2009, 02:46:21 AM
Yeah, if anyone is curious they can read the SA thread on the game, with posts by the creator (username: robertpelloni).

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2927998&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2927998&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1)

Guy seems a bit... strange. Like not wanting to show high resolution footage because he fears people will steal the artwork. And that was before the whole 100 day stand off.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 05, 2009, 02:49:04 AM
So he's faking it all for fame or something?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: ShyGuy on January 05, 2009, 03:15:46 AM
Maybe he's a paranoid schizophrenic.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: LuigiHann on January 05, 2009, 02:49:36 PM
Like not wanting to show high resolution footage because he fears people will steal the artwork.

Seems like he'd fit right in at Nintendo.

I assume Nintendo hasn't made any response to this? It's probably in their best interest to simply ignore it.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Urkel on January 06, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote
Nintendo, you cannot continue ignoring me.

There is nobody like me. I have created the entire game, start to finish.
I am far better than Miyamoto, Itoi, Kojima, Carmack, and Wright COMBINED.
NONE of these "designers" could create the entire thing if their lives depended on it!
They rely on the assistance of others- and take all the credit. They don't even deserve their titles! I have bested them all by far.

"bob's game" is a game by ONE PERSON, and it's one of the GREATEST GAMES EVER MADE- if not THE BEST.
I stand alone on a mountain no other has even dared to climb. I have swam across the ocean only cruise ships could cross.
I have walked through the desert of no return. I have stepped in the footprints of none, a path never taken.
I have MADE HISTORY, and history cannot be undone. It's too late, Nintendo.

No man has ever accomplished what I have accomplished at 25 years old- it's no wonder you fear accepting this truth!
My work has humiliated your teams of engineers. One young man- singlehandedly- has made their lifetime of work seem like child's play.
How can they possibly compete with such overwhelming skill? It's not even fair, is it? That's too bad, Nintendo. I'm real, and I'm here.
You can't ignore me forever. I AM RIGHT, AND IT WILL WORK.

I am the GREATEST GAME DEVELOPER THAT EVER LIVED.
I am a GENIUS, and I will be around for the next 40 years- eating away at your company until it exists no longer.
I will find way after way to slowly destroy your bottom line, and your business will fail.
The name NINTENDO will be forgotten, a discarded husk like so many others.
"bob's game" will live on FOREVER.

THOSE WHO DOUBT ME- YOU WILL BE PROVEN WRONG.
IN TIME THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.
PREPARE TO EAT YOUR WORDS.

YES, I AM COMPLETELY SERIOUS!

WHO'S TAKING NAMES NOW, REGGIE?!

Holy crap.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 06, 2009, 07:20:01 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Kairon on January 06, 2009, 07:30:43 PM
Maybe...maybe somebody hacked his website in an effort to discredit him? *hopes for the best*
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2009, 07:32:24 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Arbok on January 08, 2009, 12:51:10 AM
This is just too over the top now...

I'm starting to doubt if its real anymore. To be working toward this joke since August is a long time, though, but I guess not unheard of.

Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 08, 2009, 02:06:30 AM
That last blog post convinced me that this is all a hoax. I doubt anyone, even with mental health issues, could think of themselves that highly. Or at the very least he's acting like a jackass for laughs.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Stogi on January 08, 2009, 02:44:55 AM
(http://content8.flixster.com/question/43/25/72/4325722_std.jpg)

[robot voice] I am the greatest [/robot voice]
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: LuigiHann on January 08, 2009, 11:40:10 AM
Or at the very least he's acting like a jackass for laughs.

That's my guess/hope.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 10, 2009, 12:54:31 PM
Bob stopped his protest.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 10, 2009, 04:12:48 PM
http://www.destructoid.com/bob-ends-100-day-protest-after-a-month-trashes-his-room-lies-on-floor-crying-117586.phtml
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: KDR_11k on January 11, 2009, 05:29:56 AM
lol, he even talks about how in the real world Link would get thrown out of the castle... You know, just like in every Zelda game since LttP which forces Link to sneak in without the guards seeing him...
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 11, 2009, 08:22:57 PM
Guess what he is back doing the protest.Yesterdays antics was a joke.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
He probably got tired of shitting on himself for once.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 12, 2009, 04:13:18 AM
Maybe he should change his game's name from Bob's Game to Attention Whore's Game.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: KDR_11k on January 12, 2009, 05:39:54 AM
I thought naming a game after himself already implied Attention Whore?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
Bob's latest antics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43v06aFndLQ)
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 02, 2009, 03:11:00 AM
If anything this little stunt may hurt his chances to get a devkit.

Nintendo might be worried that every nut with a game idea will start doing something crazy to get their attention, and they wouldn't want to encourage that.

Why not? The worst that could happen is the game would be a flop. Big deal.

The more games Nintendo has published on their systems, the better. Do they want the quirky and bizarre game ideas to show up on Sony or MS systems instead? I'm sure the competition would love to have every developer they can get.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2009, 03:19:37 AM
The worst that could happen is that they would be "negotiating with terrorists", give in to the demands of one guy and tons of other guys will try to do the same. Soon you'll have everyone pulling some sort of stunt to get a devkit without bothering to fulfill the requirements (should be noted that tons of smaller devs managed to get a WiiWare kit from their own money so it can't be that hard). Someone like this guy can probably not keep trade secrets which is the main reason Nintendo doesn't give the kits out.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 02, 2009, 03:30:53 AM
I still think this is all a hoax, a stunt to get other people noticed because I still believe no one would be that crazy.

Now...if he snuck into E3 and tried to sabotage Nintendo's show I might believe he's nuts.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 02, 2009, 07:07:45 AM
(http://content8.flixster.com/question/43/25/72/4325722_std.jpg)

[robot voice] I am the greatest [/robot voice]

It's crazy how accurate this depiction is.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: UncleBob on February 02, 2009, 09:23:56 PM
The more games Nintendo has published on their systems, the better.

Really?

Then how come everyone keeps bringing up the number of "shovelware" titles on Nintendo systems?
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: KDR_11k on February 03, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
Doublethink.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 03, 2009, 05:30:21 PM
The more games Nintendo has published on their systems, the better.

Really?

Then how come everyone keeps bringing up the number of "shovelware" titles on Nintendo systems?

Yes...

People want the Wii to have the most games, since its what makes the console appealing. But complain that there are too many shovelware titles and demand Nintendo to step in and control third party releases.
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 03, 2009, 05:41:23 PM
Cuz it's their turn to attempt to use the "underdog arguments."  failing miserably
Title: Re: DS Homebrew Developer Locks Himself in Room for DS SDK
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 06, 2009, 05:20:47 AM
Well Bob has to wait awhile for that SDK (http://gonintendo.com/?p=71805)