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Title: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: AV on December 06, 2008, 02:04:37 PM
This is the idea.
Metroid Prime 1 + 2 ported to Wii with motion controls from Metroid Prime 3.
The multiplayer levels and modes that were in present in Prime 2 would return, however so would all the levels and modes that Metroid Prime Hunters for DS had.
So it would be 1-4 online. All the Echoes levels, all the Hunters levels. All the other bounty hungers from Hunters (re-balanced now) . It would be WiiSpeak enabled.
Control style: Wiimote and Nunchuck or if you want GAMECUBE whatever you wish. So you could mix and match during multiplayer, and in single player you could change it to play Dual Stick style if you wish.
Single player for Prime 1 and 2 would be identical, if any area in those games were choppy it would now be fixed. It would have a hardcore mode where save points do NOT regenerate health, but health found in the wild would replenish more life. That is an optional mode at the start of the game if you wish to play in that.
So does that sound like a great deal ? Or No ?
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 06, 2008, 02:15:29 PM
Umm you do know they are doing this already without the online mode right?!?!
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Post by: King of Twitch on December 06, 2008, 02:18:56 PM
Getting MP2 online would be a huge undertaking for them, as they've never done a console online FPA. I can't see it happening... but co-op? Keep hope alive.
Also, there are no choppy areas in either game, how dare you.
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Post by: Kenology on December 06, 2008, 02:28:28 PM
I'll double dip. MP 1&2 with Wii controls is just too enticing for me to pass up. It would probably take a bit of retooling to bump the framerate up to 60 fps, but I'm happy with 16:9 and 480p.
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Post by: Adrock on December 06, 2008, 03:15:59 PM
Maybe for $30....
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode
Post by: Tybo68 on December 06, 2008, 03:27:38 PM
I'm going to buy it regardless of an online mode but that would be a great addition not that I think Nintendo would ever put that in.
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Post by: Smoke39 on December 06, 2008, 03:38:05 PM
I'll be getting at least the first game just for the added wide screen and Wii controls. Couldn't care less about online multiplayer. Hardcore mode doesn't sound like it would actually do much.
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Post by: Kenology on December 06, 2008, 03:45:08 PM
Also, these two better debut at a sweet $29.99 price tag. Both games on the same disc for $49.99 would be cool as well.
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Post by: ThePerm on December 06, 2008, 04:24:39 PM
Getting MP2 online would be a huge undertaking for them, as they've never done a console online FPA. I can't see it happening... but co-op? Keep hope alive.
Also, there are no choppy areas in either game, how dare you.
huge undertaking for newbies, this is supposed to be a top class developer.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on December 06, 2008, 05:30:15 PM
If there's enough new content added like new area's and new bosses then I would. Since Jungle Beat Wii is suppose to be adding new levels, I'd hope they do the same for both Prime games.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: AV on December 06, 2008, 06:30:50 PM
Umm you do know they are doing this already without the online mode right?!?!
i know, but they haven't talked about this at all. so i just wanted to give in some details to see if people were interested.
You never know what Nintendo will do. Doing this would GUARANTEE sales, most people LIKE MYSELF can care less about new controls I still own both Metroid Prime games. Without any new content I really don't care to buy again. My brother in law who just got into Metroid Prime 3 would buy it instantly because he never played 2 and 3 and doesn't like the cube controller.
I never would of guessed that "Ura Zelda" would ever be released, but I was glad when Zelda Master Quest came out either way.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 06, 2008, 08:03:06 PM
The point of the series of remakes is try to get more sales of old games that were awesome and deserved more sales considering that the Wii as of now practically sold two times more than the gamecube did worldwide so they figured that these remakes can sell a lot.
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Post by: UncleBob on December 06, 2008, 08:06:40 PM
I never would of guessed that "Ura Zelda" would ever be released, but I was glad when Zelda Master Quest came out either way.
If only MQ was anything like Ura Zelda...
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Post by: Plugabugz on December 07, 2008, 07:49:18 AM
I wouldn't mind but i hope this is not what Retro is doing in place of a new game.
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Post by: Morari on December 07, 2008, 11:19:53 AM
Would I repurchase it? No. Since I never bought either to begin with though, I would definitely give them a try with tolerable controls. I'd be able to pick up Corruption then as well.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: AV on December 07, 2008, 12:39:04 PM
If there's enough new content added like new area's and new bosses then I would.
Like the Kraid level and boss fight Retro axed. How about replacing that awful fetch quest at the end of Metroid Prime? What were they thinking? That was almost as annoying as the Hades level in God of War....
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Post by: Luigi Dude on December 07, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
How about replacing that awful fetch quest at the end of Metroid Prime? What were they thinking? That was almost as annoying as the Hades level in God of War....
Oh that would definitely be nice. Or at least make it like Prime 3 where you only need to find around half the items and not all of them to complete the game now. Prime 2 would be improved greatly if you only needed to find half the keys at the end since it takes about 500 hours to find all of them.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on December 07, 2008, 09:59:29 PM
I'm pretty sure almost every nintendo fan has re-bought at least one game in their lives so....
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 08, 2008, 12:11:41 AM
How about replacing that awful fetch quest at the end of Metroid Prime? What were they thinking? That was almost as annoying as the Hades level in God of War....
Oh that would definitely be nice. Or at least make it like Prime 3 where you only need to find around half the items and not all of them to complete the game now. Prime 2 would be improved greatly if you only needed to find half the keys at the end since it takes about 500 hours to find all of them.
What in Zephos are you talking about? All the fuel cells had to be found to access the special special part of the special thing to proceed to the end of the game. No different from Prime 1 and 2. And the responsible Bounty Hunters find most of the keys during their initial play thru, acquiring most of them before the game tells you to. Locating remaining ones takes like, an hour, and it's mostly solving a word riddle. I guess players don't like their minds being challenged anymore.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: Luigi Dude on December 08, 2008, 03:07:04 AM
What in Zephos are you talking about? All the fuel cells had to be found to access the special special part of the special thing to proceed to the end of the game. No different from Prime 1 and 2. And the responsible Bounty Hunters find most of the keys during their initial play thru, acquiring most of them before the game tells you to. Locating remaining ones takes like, an hour, and it's mostly solving a word riddle. I guess players don't like their minds being challenged anymore.
You didn't need to find all of the fuel cells in order to beat Prime 3. If you follow the main path on the ship, you only need about half of them to get the code to access the last planet. All the other fuel cell are only needed to open up the alternate rooms that have items like missile expansions. Of course if you don't follow the main path and end up using your fuel cells on an alternate room first, then I'd imagine you will need all to finish the game. But the point remains Prime 3 can be beaten without finding all it's end game keys, while Prime 1 and 2 require you to find all of them.
Hey, Metroid Prime 1 and 2 are two of my favorite Gamecube games, but the fact remains I'm not a fan of fetch quest in gaming and I just didn't like those parts of each game. It's just annoying when your at the very end of the game, but before you can fight the final boss the game tells you to find this and this, when you should be able to just fight the boss.
I mean come on, in the 2d Metroids after you kill Ridley, you can go right to the final boss if you want. I don't see why in Prime 1 or 2 after I kill the Omega Pirate or that big robot thing, I have to travel back to some far out remote place to find some keys, when I should be able to just go and fight boss like I could in the 2d ones. It's like when you go to a restaurant and before you enter you realize you forgot your money and so you have to drive all the way back to your home to get it. I don't find it fun in real life, I don't find it fun in gaming.
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Post by: Peachylala on December 08, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
Considering I passed Metroid Prime 2 and I absolutely hated that fetch quest at the end of Prime, I might give a remake a chance IF they get rid of it.
And like Ardork pointed out, both games on one disc for $30. Make it $20 with everything mentioned and I'm sold.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: EasyCure on December 08, 2008, 11:58:12 AM
I wasn't opposed to the idea of MP 1 + 2 on a single disc when the wiimakes were first mentioned, hell I think I even had my own topic on it or at the least started a discussion of it in the MP3:Corruption thread.
As for the way you're putting it, Vega, I actually wouldn't want a full online mode. It'd be a nice addition, sure, but I'd much rather have extra content in each game over an online mode I wouldn't use. I'm not the most diehard Metroid fan and even I know Metroid isn't about multiplayer, so including it would feel just as out of place as it did in Echoes.
As far as fetch quests go, I don't care either way. I found the majority of the keys/artifacts along the way, and the few I didn't find were enjoyable to go after because they were pretty tough. At that point in the game you think you'd searched every nook and cranny there is and it drives you insane that you can't find that ONE LAST FREAKIN KEY.. but it just pushes you further to find it because its such an accomplishment when you do... Or in contrast it was so easy that you feel stupid for overlooking it and have a laugh at your own expense. But these are things games are made of. Oh wait, I forgot.. in this era of games we all want instant gratification, oh well guess I guess I enjoyed something I wasn't supposed to, D'oh!
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Post by: Peachylala on December 08, 2008, 12:27:58 PM
Alot of my favorite games were kind of fetch quests (DKC 2 and 3 come to mind), but after Donkey Kong 64 was destoryed because of this element, I hated fetch quests. However, Prime's fetch quest was decent, and it did bring about a small sense of accomplishment. I still hated it though.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 08, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
"If you follow the main path on the ship, you only need about half of them to get the code to access the last planet."
I stand corrected.
"Of course if you don't follow the main path and end up using your fuel cells on an alternate room first, then I'd imagine you will need all to finish the game."
How would I *know* the main path the first time I make my way through? Luck? This is Metroid. I turn off hints.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: Ian Sane on December 08, 2008, 07:22:12 PM
I said no because I'm not a tool that buys stuff I already own. But then I actually like the way Metroid Prime 1 & 2 play. I don't like how Nintendo made Metroid Prime 3 for close minded rubes who think first person = first person shooter. To me Metroid Prime 3 is the one with the crappy controls. Metroid is very similar to Zelda except the whole place is like one huge dungeon and the viewing perspective is different. So it controlling kind of like the 3D Zelda games made perfect sense to me.
I don't want it online because then Nintendo will point to this and say "here's your online FPS" when it clearly f*cking isn't one. Now they'll probably NEVER make a good online FPS ever anyway because, well, that's not Nintendo's style. But at least then I won't have Reggie making up BS.
If I could convince Nintendo to cancel all these stupid Wii-makes I would. The Animal Crossing "Wii-make but we pretend that's it not" that just came out shows that Nintendo WILL release stuff like this in place of a real game. This is probably exactly what Retro is currently working on. Not something new, not even Metroid Prime 4, but THIS. I wouldn't buy it for 1 cent out of principle.
Next year is going to be the year of the Wii-make and we're going to get totally shafted on original content as a result. You buy this and that is YOUR fault. It happened on the GBA (Metroid Fusion is the only non-port first party GBA game of 2002) and it will happen here.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 08, 2008, 07:30:04 PM
I don't like how Nintendo made Metroid Prime 3 for close minded rubes who think first person = first person shooter.
Um, what? Just how was the game any different from its predecessors? The ONLY difference is that enemy patterns were layered to take advantage of the ability to look up easier...Try to come up with a more convincing attack on the motion controls...
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on December 08, 2008, 07:52:21 PM
If they were cheap I would. I have no need for the online parts of them. I did get a lot of enjoyment out of Echo's multiplayer though. I just know i'd never play online.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on December 08, 2008, 07:55:32 PM
Next year is going to be the year of the Wii-make and we're going to get totally shafted on original content as a result. You buy this and that is YOUR fault. It happened on the GBA (Metroid Fusion is the only non-port first party GBA game of 2002) and it will happen here.
There's no evidence that these Wii ports are being done by the original teams. Chances are Nintendo created a special team just to make all these ports so it wouldn't slow down the main studio's. All the Mario ports on the GBA as well as Mario 64 DS and New Super Mario Bros were done by a completly different team that was new to working on Mario games. The old Mario team responsible for all the classic Mario games like Bros 3, World and 64 spent their time making Sunshine, DK: Jungle Beat and recently Galaxy.
Plus the Link to the Past GBA port in 2002 was done by Flagship which was a Capcom studio, while Nintendo's own internal Zelda team focused on Wind Waker.
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Post by: Smoke39 on December 08, 2008, 10:26:19 PM
But then I actually like the way Metroid Prime 1 & 2 play. I don't like how Nintendo made Metroid Prime 3 for close minded rubes who think first person = first person shooter. To me Metroid Prime 3 is the one with the crappy controls. Metroid is very similar to Zelda except the whole place is like one huge dungeon and the viewing perspective is different. So it controlling kind of like the 3D Zelda games made perfect sense to me.
Bologna. Control-wise, all they did was let you look around more easily, which is highly conducive to exploration, which is what Metroid is all about. Corruption did feel too first person shooter-y to me, but the controls aren't to blame. The first Prime with Corruption's control scheme would be like the best 3D Metroid yet.
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Post by: Nemo on December 08, 2008, 10:46:37 PM
Metroid Prime is mostly an exploration game. Exploring it with different controls doesn't change much in my opinion. I won't rebuy the game, not even if it's cheap.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 09, 2008, 02:00:55 AM
I never played the first 2 but I picked up 3 and loved it, I'm definitely planning on buying the Wiimakes.
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Post by: TofuFury on December 09, 2008, 02:33:19 AM
I have the first one for GC, so I wouldn't pick it up again. I am very interested in the second one as a remake, since I never had a chance to buy it. The used price never went down below $20, and the new price probably isn't more than that.
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Post by: RABicle on December 09, 2008, 02:53:12 AM
They're retaining MP2 multiplayer?... Why? WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT TO US AGAIN? OH GOD!
I can still remember, back in the trenches after Metroid Prime came out. "Oh it should've had multiplayer like Halo" "I hope MP2 has multiplayer! I'm so good at it!" And I'm there like. "NO! NOOOOO!" But they shouted me down "oh you don't know anything noob" And I'm like "I played Half Life on PS2, the deathmatch was a joke! Co-op was fun though. If they do any multiplayer they should do co-op" and the same people would turn around "Oh but Metroid is all about being alone on a planet, I could never co operate with someone to play it." And then I'd cry.
But then Metroid Prime 2 came along, with tacked on multiplayer and it was fucking awful, just as I predicted. I never did hear from those faggots again, I can only assume they're pwning noobs in Metroid Hunters and thinking what a great game it is.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: Pawtrick on January 14, 2009, 12:38:34 AM
Metroid Prime 2 multiplayer was really fun, if you had 4 decent players. Just check out this video of me and my friends in an epic battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7ROZfrZUw&feature=channel_page haha, if they keep the multiplayer I'll definately get it. Would be sweet if they added more levels + online.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 14, 2009, 01:17:35 AM
I am disappointed they did not bundle Pikmin 1+2 together in the Play it on the Wii. I doubt they will pack in Metroid Prime 1+2 which is a shame because they should. If they don't I may only consider getting the first Prime.
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Post by: Halbred on January 14, 2009, 02:33:51 AM
Hell, I'd buy it even if there was no online play (which I'd prefer, actually).
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Post by: Gylldas on January 14, 2009, 02:29:14 PM
I have Metroid Prime 1 and 3. 2 never really appealed to me and I'll admit I never actually finished the first one. I did however finish 3 100%. Unless they're dirt cheap I have no intention of picking them up.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: TheFleece on January 16, 2009, 10:18:59 PM
Metroid Prime 1 + 2 ported to Wii with motion controls from Metroid Prime 3.
The multiplayer levels and modes that were in present in Prime 2 would return, however so would all the levels and modes that Metroid Prime Hunters for DS had.
So it would be 1-4 online. All the Echoes levels, all the Hunters levels. All the other bounty hungers from Hunters (re-balanced now) . It would be WiiSpeak enabled.
Control style: Wiimote and Nunchuck or if you want GAMECUBE whatever you wish. So you could mix and match during multiplayer, and in single player you could change it to play Dual Stick style if you wish.
Single player for Prime 1 and 2 would be identical, if any area in those games were choppy it would now be fixed. It would have a hardcore mode where save points do NOT regenerate health, but health found in the wild would replenish more life. That is an optional mode at the start of the game if you wish to play in that.
So does that sound like a great deal ? Or No ?
This is what I want since I'm replaying the entire Metroid Series and since that's what I'm doing I can live without online play, but a co-op sounds good to me. All I want to know is when it's coming here so I can continue the story already!
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Post by: Spinnzilla on January 16, 2009, 11:26:56 PM
i'm really quite curious how they're going to streamline the control scheme for the wiimote.
Title: Re: Would you rebuy Metroid Prime 1+2 with wiimote controls and full online mode ?
Post by: jakeOSX on January 17, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
i cannot stand the dual thumb control of consul first person games. yes, i got ok with it after years of metriod and starwars battle front, but the fact is that i've played too much with a mouse. i can be more precise and more efficent with the mouse.
so when i saw the wii control scheme way back when all i thought was FPS on nintendo all over again. naturally i have been dissappointed with the turn-out (see, i forgot FPS players prefer graphixxx over, you know, playing the game, silly me) but still i have my fingers crossed.
somewhere in my posts you'll find me commenting on this before it was announced, yes, yes and yes, i am getting these games. mp1 and mp2 were fun games, but with the mp3 controls alone they will be worth getting any playing again. yes, i realize that means i will have paid $80+ for each game, but i am ok with that.
hell, there were people who paid more than that for halo2. and well, it sucked.
