Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: decoyman on November 17, 2008, 03:29:16 PM
Dude, is that Sylar?
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: Plugabugz on November 17, 2008, 04:06:06 PM
Yeah it is.
JJ and Michael Giacchino (his music composer)... works on everything together since Felicity. Just listen out for THE EXCITED TRUMPETS!!!!!
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: Khushrenada on November 17, 2008, 08:14:00 PM
Eh. Was never a fan of the original Star Trek. I've tried to get into on occasion and have watched some episodes but I just can't get into it. Next Generation is the best of all Star Trek to me.
That said, I was interested in this movie. The teaser trailer was nice. But this trailer ruins any expectations I had for it. Even not being a fan of the original series I can tell that this movie is contrary to the characters of the original and goes against the ideas of that series and really all of Star Trek as a whole.
Star Trek died when Gene Roddenberry died. It's slowly corroded away ever since.
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: Stogi on November 17, 2008, 08:36:58 PM
BEST TRAILER EVER!
It has Harold, Shaun, and some hot black chick who's also in the movie "Avatar". How could this be bad? (Though Simon Pegg is hilarious....You should watch "How to Lose Friends and Alienate People."
I've never seen Star Trek. I hadn't even seen The Empire Strikes Back till last year, so you know Sci-Fi ain't my thing (though I did like this movie that now is a horrible series.......Star Gate). Truthfully that trailer was terrible. I couldn't help think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVuxvJVdZQc
Hilarious.
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: EasyCure on November 17, 2008, 10:01:15 PM
lol never got into star trek either but seing simon pegg and harold in there made me giddy
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 18, 2008, 01:32:05 AM
That trailer wasn't any good but everything I've heard and read from everybody that's seen the movie has been positive so I'm still excited for it.
Star Trek died when Gene Roddenberry died. It's slowly corroded away ever since.
Deep Space Nine occuring almost entirely after Roddenberry's death shows how ridiculous this statement is.
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: Khushrenada on November 18, 2008, 01:35:45 AM
Do think Deep Space Nine is better than Next Generation?
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 18, 2008, 01:41:18 AM
Hate to say it but I think Star Trek:TNG flourished, IMO, when Gene gave up most control. The first two seasons of TNG had Gene's fingerprints all over it (well the first season definitely did, while the second had a writers strike) and TOS style didn't fit anymore. He was great for the original but that style had to be modernized which started occurring in Season 3 of TNG.
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 18, 2008, 01:43:11 AM
I think The Next Generation is very overrated. Yes, at least half the top 10 best Trek episodes come from TNG but for every great one there's like half a doxzen mediocre ones. I would definitely say that DS9 is the best Trek series (and in my opinion the best telvevision drama period).
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: Plugabugz on November 18, 2008, 06:38:04 AM
(though I did like this movie that now is a horrible series.......Star Gate).
Stargate is going the same way as Star Trek. It's been on air continuously since 1997 and needs a break. The potential of the series is literally overflowing with ideas yet it all got so formulaic. When they break out of it (like the episode about everyone's DAY OFF) it got really good again. And now the same writers from Atlantis and SG1 are writing the new series. WTF.
I think The Next Generation is very overrated. Yes, at least half the top 10 best Trek episodes come from TNG but for every great one there's like half a doxzen mediocre ones. I would definitely say that DS9 is the best Trek series (and in my opinion the best telvevision drama period).
DS9 did something that all the others (Enterprise included) didn't do; a tightly planned storyline. It made it more difficult to jump into, but made it more rewarding for sticking with it.
Title: Re: DARKNESS AND SILENCE
Post by: EasyCure on November 18, 2008, 12:18:54 PM
can we rename this thread "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Zap: The new title doesnt work, i'm nosey when it comes to stuff that might involve me ;)
Title: Re: Beware: EasyCure
Post by: King of Twitch on November 18, 2008, 12:37:54 PM
Somehow I knew it would work oppositely
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: EasyCure on November 18, 2008, 12:50:54 PM
new change works, just coming in to say my farewells to this thread.
adios
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 18, 2008, 12:51:30 PM
Enterprise got better as it went along. Season 2 was better than the first and 3 was even better. Season 4 was unbelievably good, it really is a shame that it got canceled when it did.
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: King of Twitch on February 02, 2009, 04:20:21 PM
Dude, bro. Somehow I don't think people will still be saying 'man' as slang 200 years in the future
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: RABicle on February 02, 2009, 10:49:11 PM
Enterprise kicked arse. It's Mirror Universe episodes were easily the best of the Mirror Universe.
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 02, 2009, 11:18:22 PM
I think the best series of Star Trek was Deep Space 9, it took awhile to get going the first season especially was weak, but the series became very strong and towards the end, I believed it was better than Next Generation.
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 02, 2009, 11:19:38 PM
I think the best series of Star Trek was Deep Space 9, it took awhile to get going the first season especially was weak, but the series became very strong and towards the end, I believed it was better than Next Generation.
Enterprise got really good in season 4, which is sadly when it got canceled. :(
I think TNG and DS9, for me, are pretty equal. They are so different from each other that I can find stuff to really love about both.
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 03, 2009, 02:11:01 AM
I'm currently in the middle of watching Voyager via Netflix and I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would.
Also, Star Trek Enterprise: The Romulan War novel coming in October, and based off the last couple Enterprise novels I'm more excited about that than the new movie.
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: oohhboy on February 03, 2009, 08:09:07 AM
I am just going to come out and say it. I never like Enterprise and I never will. Now that is out of the way...
I am pretty mixed on the new movie. The effects are fantastic, no denying it. Sylar on first impression could be Spock. However the change in the interiors are jarring. I wouldn't doubt Kirk as a kid was adventurous, be I don't think for a moment that he is a dumbass. Overall, it just doesn't feel right.
I will go see it, but I am expecting to hate it as much as I will love it.
Voyager was never enterprise bad. It did get good sometimes when they cranked out some multi part episodes. Kess was alright, but 7 of 9 was better. Any doctor episode was a good episode. The biggest problem they had was they didn't have any real ties between episodes. Sure we all knew they were going home and that would happen when they decided to close shop. After almost ever episode everything just resets. Even after the some epic multi parter. They also had Nelixe which has to be the closest thing Star Trek has to a Jar Jar Binks. Just not quite as bad.
DS9 has to be best overall. TNG had Picard, TOS is classic, DS9 had some real character interactions. DS9 did have some early issues from having no real starship to get around on. Sometimes the entire Bajoran religion thing got abit heavy handed. But they were small issues compared to how good the show was in general. I oh so love to hate Ki Winn.
SG-1 Had a good start, weak sauce middle and an excellent end when they started to get adventurous. Atlantis has some of the same problems. When they do get adventurous and make some off track episode, thats when it gets really good.
Title: Re: "Beware: Trekkies" instead so i dont keep coming in here? thanks
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 03, 2009, 09:47:28 AM
The biggest problem with Star Trek is they tried to be too episodic and too preachy. Most episodes had some sort of moral or lesson they were teaching the audience, and most of those episodes hit you in the face with the point in such an horrible way it was frustrating.
Late Season Next Generation pushed away from that more and started just telling stories...so did Deep Space 9, but DS9 really got into some political intrigue and the idea of what happens on the verge of a real war breaking out.
Voyager had a silly gimmick...blending the 2 crews together to create drama was never handled well. And 7 or 9 I hated. Voyager started the whole have a super hot chick on board for the sole purpose of having a super hot chick in the cast. It was so obvious 7 of 9 was ONLY there for ratings, and Enterprise carried that tradition. Look at Next Generation or DS9, there may be attractive woman in the cast but they were treated as characters first and did not run around with their chests hanging out (except for Ms Troi who couldn't help it.)
Babylon 5 was a great series except I hated the CGi effects, but the story was fantastic.
