Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Pikkcuber on April 08, 2003, 05:18:43 PM
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Pikkcuber on April 08, 2003, 05:18:43 PM
What do you guys think about this topic. here are my feelings 1.good games are slated to come out for the N-gage the best will proably be a sonic game, but GBA has a library of games, which is full of sonic. 2. N-Gage doubles as a phone, I think just about anybody who wants a cell phone proably already has one, and i doubt it is very high quality. 3. I could be wrong but the N-Gage is around 500$ compared to the sleek SP's 100$ price tag, and its brother the regular GBA'S 70$. 4. Sony and Sega have already tried to beat nintendo in the handheld war and they failed, and they are respected names in the gaming industry.
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Bloodworth on April 08, 2003, 05:51:29 PM
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: rpglover on April 08, 2003, 06:36:54 PM
well i have my doubts on the n-gage only because of the price and lack of games right now i own gba sp and it is the greatest handheld ever- great games, good price, and is backwords compatable i think the n-gage will be one of those things only hardcore people may go into i think the problem that comes in is the fact the n-gage will be a cell phone with gaming as an afterthought the games look good, but the interface looks a little cluncky for games i would stick with the gba or sp if you are really hardcore and want to show off- get an sp and an n-gage i dont think i will get one only because of the lack of games and the hefty price tag
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: The Doc on April 09, 2003, 11:38:57 AM
I just bought a GBA SP the other day and I am very excited about my purchase. Now to comment on the possible GBA SP vs. N-Gage war; Nokia may try to pull some market share away from the Game Boy Advance SP, however I just do not see it happening. The N-Gage will debut with a heavy price tag and a undersized software library; where as the Game Boy Advance SP already has a bevy of software titles to choose from and comes with an attractive $100 dollar price tag. In addition, Nokia is well behind Nintendo in this race and it has already been stated that it would take Nokia well over a year to catch up to the GBA SP. I do not know about you fellow Nintendo fans, but I would not want a cell phone that also has the ability to play games; cell phones are used for conversing with others and should be left as is. In the end, I believe the choice is an easy one and that choice is the Game Boy Advance SP; unless you want to try something new and do not mind shelling out a lot of money.
~The Doc~
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: joshnickerson on April 10, 2003, 04:48:06 PM
The GBA SP, no contest. When I read that you have to unscrew the back cover, then the battery just to swap out games, I just laughed. If only Nintendo could have this kind of stranglehold in the console market...
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: dmbfan755 on June 02, 2003, 10:45:26 AM
I think this N-gage is sweet. Official site- N-gage.com When it comes out, I'm definately going to get one. I mean something that is a gaming machine, an mp3 player, and so on? C'mon I mean my cell phone right now plays snake, and ummm... oh yeah that memory thing. But playing on a handheld that has better graphics then GBA sounds cool. I also like the fact that you can call people on it. It's definately not as sleek as the SP, but it might have a chance. Thay are supposed to sell for 300-400 euro, or about 340-450$. I think that a 100$ SP is better than a 450$ phone, but it might have an impact on the handhelp monopoly, just like the PSP will.
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: aoi tsuki on June 02, 2003, 01:18:35 PM
While i'm a big fan of convergence and portable technology, i'm not excited about the N-Gage (NG here on). The current lineup of games isn't compelling, which kills the gaming element of the device. MP3 playback is nifty, but you have to remove any other cards plugged in and current MMCs (multi-media cards) top out at 128MB -- too small for my tastes. Also, GSM coverage is still spotty in the US; non-existant where i live, so i couldn't even use it as a phone. I like the concept, but the execution, especially for Nokia, seems really sloppy.
Frankly, i love Snake (the first one); when i had a Nokia i'd play it when i was out. If i want something deeper than that, i'll bring my SP. The majority of the time, i'll choose a device with a single use and high quality output over one with multiple uses but lesser quality. The GBA only plays games, but it plays them well.
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Dratatoo on June 02, 2003, 03:11:21 PM
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: PIAC on June 02, 2003, 04:04:16 PM
i doubt it will actually have better graphics than the GBA, given the screen is alot smaller and cant do as many colours (if my memory serves me correctly)
on the subject of phones come gameing machines, i saw an add for a sony errikson phone of some description that had Tony Hawk 4, anyone know about this?
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Cube323 on June 02, 2003, 10:36:35 PM
The Nokia N-gage is possibly the worst handheld gaming device ever created. I am totally serious. I expect this thing to fail is a big way. At E3, I tried every game they had and all I can say is this, I couldn't get away from their booth fast enough. Just thinking about that ultra crappy "tomb raider" game on that sh*tty, postage stamp sized screen, make me ill.
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: BlkPaladin on June 03, 2003, 08:07:17 PM
Cell Phones are good for the novelty games such as snake and memory, and other games that don't need the screen refreshed for back ground changes. The Nokia N-gage is a step to move away from this but with expectation on a cell phone's size and form gets in the way of making any cell phone product a proper handheld gaming device.
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: SatansNemesis on June 03, 2003, 08:52:43 PM
A good test on its success would be to go around to your local gamestop/eb or game specialty store and find out if they will carry it or not. cause if the specialty stores are hesitant, it means instant death. Look at how leniant they are about GC stuff, doubt they would give the NG much thought, maybe one 5x5 shelf with MAYBE a demo kiosk.
Also, don't make them think you are interested in it or they may consider stocking some/more of it. And I would probably wait until the launch is a bit closer before asking because some places might not even know much yet on their stance.
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Bartman3010 on June 13, 2003, 09:09:45 AM
Nokia makes crappy cell-phones and its lack of games and sense is getting to me.
Besides, isnt there going to be an MP3 player for the GBA? I heard a bunch of stuff from E3 that you can buy software like the MP3 player, movie player, even cartridges that has a whole episode of Pokemon on a cheap $15-20 cartridge.
Really the N-Gage is just for noone and I think somebody very strange will get this...thing.
If you are getting one, power to you, just dont expect a good refund from Game Stop...
Title: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Big_Pimp on June 13, 2003, 04:57:10 PM
The N-Gage will no doubt fail miserably. $300? no thanks, cell phone?, getting one, screen size?, what where they thinking? I think the PSP will be the bigger threat.
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Neo X on August 28, 2003, 02:18:30 PM
Pikkcuber, you might want to check your history again you idiot. or you could save time and read the new articles on the PSP that say "This is Sony's FIRST forray into the handheld market." PIAC. Yes, the N-gage will have a hell of alot better graphics than the SP!!! And it will certainly have more colors than the SP. Cube323, your too ignorant, for all we know, the n-gage games could be a heck of alot better than we think, and NO THE SCREEN IS ALOT BIGGER THAN A POSTAGE STAMP!!!!!! In fact, from comparison pics I've seen, the N-gage screen is not that much smaller than the SP's. We can not predict the future. Cube, there have been worse, and betters that much is true. Am i biased to the N-gage. NO. I'm just protecting the truth. Any one hear of the turbo express? It was a handheld system made by NEC. It was a genious idea, have a portable game system that plays your home console games. What this means is one could play his/her turbo graphix 16. Guess what, it got it's butt kicked. Later Sega tried the same thing w/ the genesis (this hand-held was called the Nomad) Just like these geniuse ideas, the N-gage idea may get destroyed. this is because of the way Sega and NEC supported and marketed these systems. Now if Nintendo were to release a portable N64 that didn't need ports to play N64 games. N64 owners would more than likely be all over it. Why? Because nintendo can get there product out into the world better than NEC or SEGA. Now to get to questions PIAC, there is a version Proskater for cells, only it looks like it's one the SNES. Same thing w/ the splintercell cell version. Bartman, there is an MP3 player for GBA. By movie player you may be thinking about the TV reciever for the GBA. Aside from picking up broadcast on your GBA, you can hook up a Cube, DVD, VCR ect.
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: PIAC on August 29, 2003, 12:17:52 AM
can i introduce you to a little thing called paragraphs?
yes the N-Gage could be popular, but the method for changing games puts me right off, no-one wants to fiddle around taking things open and out just to switch games, thats an unecesarry hassle, especially if your on the bus/train etc where the movment could cause such an undertacking to be annoying.
by the time it is out in australia i should be up for a new mobile phone, and i would have given it a serious look at if 1) its a decent phone 2) it can hold a respectable amount of mp3s (i dont expect it to be iPodesque in storage) 3) decent games are readily available for it.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: rpglover on August 29, 2003, 04:18:47 AM
all i know of this n-gage thing is what i have read about it from ign and gamespot- and i dont think the people at gamespot like it that much- they said it was too much of a hassle to reload the games (you have to take the back off, remove the battery, insert the cartrage, place the battery and back of the system on again, turn it on, then scroll down a menu to get to the play games section) sure that might not sound that bad but then how could you have fun with it? to me it would just take too long to put the games in (as PIAC has stated before) also- i think the battery life for the n-gage is very weak- 4 hours for games- thats pretty low especially if you consider the sp's 10 hour life with the light on, 18 without it- but the biggest things are the games and they just dont suit me very well- basically sonic n is a port of sonic advance, super monkey ball is a port from the gba version (with some added minigames), tony hawk seems to be the best show of what the n-gage can do, but if you have seen the screen of the n-gage you know how small it is- but the 300 dollar price for the contraption is enough to keep me away- the gba launched at 100 bucks and i spent 150 on the gba, 2 games, and a light thing for it (some deal at eb)- thats a good deal- for the n-gage with 2 games it would come out to be around 360-380 dollars- thats just too much- why spend it on an n-gage when you could get any one of the consoles of this generation and many games for it for that price??
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: NIN10DO on August 30, 2003, 09:35:41 AM
N-Gage will fail.
It's just too expensive, who would buy it? this is a GAME cell phone, made to sell for most likely kids, and what parents will buy their kids a $300 phone? maybe some rich parents but that's about it, but even some rich kids will sway from it because it's is just too ugly.
Most people want slick looking cell phones, N-Gage is far from it. The novelty of having "a phone in a game machine" will run out soon, soonner or later they will buy another lighter, slimmer phone and just carry N-Gage as a portable game machine.
But I am sure whoever will make it better in a few years, at lower price, but for now, it's just a "nice attempt".
I will enjoy GBA SP($100) and wait for Sony PSP next year with the $200 I saved from not buying N-gage.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: The Doc on August 30, 2003, 11:13:25 AM
First of all, let me say that the N-Gage is not even targeting the same audience as the GBA SP. The N-Gage will debut on October 7, and no doubt the older crowd will imbrace it more so then the younger crowd will. Nokia is very serious about entering the console market and Nokia is going to be in the console market for the long haul. All of you Nintendo fanboys need to get a clue. I own a GBA SP and I think it sucks; most of the games are SNES ports and are targeted toward children. Nokia makes some of the best phones in the business, and they would not be in business long if they made cheap products. The N-Gage is a great idea and I am looking foward to geting one. The price at launch will be $300 here in the US, however you get what you pay for. The fact is this the GBA SP is a toy for children. N-Gage will be the future of mobile gaming.
The Doc
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 30, 2003, 11:26:51 AM
I have tried the N-gage, and it fails miserably as a gaming system. I wouldn't even call it a gaming system. It's a gaming-wanna-be phone, that sucks at being a phone(ironic isn't it?). The screen looks washed out and crappy, the games aren't worth giving a second look, and the buttons are way too close for comfort. It's like playing an intense game on your cell phone; it's not freaking possible. This will most likely find its way into the Hall of Utter Crap alongside the likes of the PocketStation, Jaguar, and Virtual Boy.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Cap on August 30, 2003, 11:43:40 AM
Quote Originally posted by: The Doc The fact is this the GBA SP is a toy for children. N-Gage will be the future of mobile gaming.
The Doc
you call people nintendo fanboys and then you go on to say this? the n-gage the future of mobile gaming? the gba a childs toy? you sound like you work for nokia. even if the n-gage does manage to turn out better then every single impression of the system i have read so far, it will never have that kind of an impact in the market. why? even if the system does manage to be fairly successful, the psp is coming out just one year later.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 30, 2003, 11:47:12 AM
He must work for that Nokia street team thing, which I must add is a load of crap. Nokia pays people to say their system is the greatest thing on Earth. If you can't unload the crap on consumers with specs, buy them with money...
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: The Doc on August 30, 2003, 04:43:58 PM
Well Bill saying the N-Gage sucks is your opinion, and your opinion does not mean a damn thing to me. Fanboys are so closed minded that it makes me sick, and that goes for all fanboys not just Nintendo fanboys. Its time that fanboys grow up and stop being babies. Oh and another thing, just because you do not like the N-Gage does not mean that the product is garbage.
The Doc
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 30, 2003, 05:02:00 PM
Do not call me a fanboy. Those that use the word "fanboy" are completely ignorant to the fact that it is he himself that is the fanboy. Just because I say another system is crap, how does that make me a fanboy? If I told you I own a PS2, Xbox, and Dreamcast, am I still a fanboy? Unless you consider me a "videogame fanboy" the definition doesn't fit at all.
Second of all, I was expressing my opinion. Did I say that my opinion was 100% honest true for everyone? No, though I can't believe there are people that would shell out 300 bucks for such utter crap.
edit: Oh yeah...Did you read anything I wrote besides the last line? I have played the N-Gage. The reason I think the N-Gage is crap is not because I am a "fanboy" but because the thing is that bad.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Cap on August 30, 2003, 05:54:33 PM
Quote Originally posted by: The Doc Well Bill saying the N-Gage sucks is your opinion, and your opinion does not mean a damn thing to me. Fanboys are so closed minded that it makes me sick, and that goes for all fanboys not just Nintendo fanboys. Its time that fanboys grow up and stop being babies. Oh and another thing, just because you do not like the N-Gage does not mean that the product is garbage.
The Doc
i know your comment wasnt directed at me, but i had some things to say about it. isnt you calling the gba a childs toy an opinion? i dont consider it a toy at all, and i certainly dont consider myself a child. are you saying that only your opinion matters? you already pointed out that bill's means nothing to you. what are you here to discuss if nobodys opinion matters to you except for your own? are people fanboys for simply disagreeing with your opinions?
everything i have seen about the n-gage looks horrible. not one thing i have read about the system or the games has given me any reason to want to buy it(with the screen dimensions being my most hated aspect of the system). thats only my opinion though, so i doubt that matters to you. but while you may like the n-gage that doesnt make it the "future of mobile gaming", nor does it make people "babies" for not liking it.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 30, 2003, 09:14:12 PM
Of course, let's all be open minded and give EVERYTHING a chance, just like our role model, Doc. We should ALL follow his example and never judge anything too soon.
I swear, the internet attract the biggest clowns.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on August 31, 2003, 05:43:04 AM
The Doc, we have already had a big debate on this forum about the SP being a child's toy vs. N-Gage being for adults. Several of us who are definitely out of range of being referred to as a child said we preferred the SP to N-Gage. It's okay if you think the N-Gage is the best thing since the wheel but some of us have a different opinion. The two things I think we have all agreed on is that good graphics or not, the way you have to change out the games and especially the very low battery life are reason enough to stay away. Get the N-Gage if you want, and enjoy sitting in a car or wherever you play, with it plugged in so you can once again recharge your short-life battery on this wonderful "portable" gaming device.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: kennyb27 on August 31, 2003, 10:39:29 AM
Quote Pikkcuber, you might want to check your history again you idiot. or you could save time and read the new articles on the PSP that say "This is Sony's FIRST forray into the handheld market."
You may want to check your history, Neo X, Sony had a handheld in Japan. However, it never came close to challenging the GameBoy and never made the trip across the ocean.
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: darknight06 on September 03, 2003, 11:27:24 AM
I remember that thing, it was called the Sony Pocketstation. I dunno know if I'd call it a portable though, it was more like the Dreamcast VMU than anything else. Now here's something I would love to know, Nokia announces the N-Gage and all of a sudden the GBASP, once "sleek and sexy" is now a kids toy? I just have this to say, gimme my kids toy then. The fact that the thing functions as a phone and has an OS is gonna hold that thing back. That, and why is the screen so thin? Yeah it's 10 pixels wider than the GB and 40 more vertically, but WHY? You would think if they wanted to do 3D graphics (or any graphics for that matter) on this thing they'd give it at the most a widescreen format bigger than the GBA screen. I mean, when Sonic Adva.. I mean N needs a letter boxing mode to see the full view something's wrong. Not to mention the fact that doing so sends the graphics into the abyss. I can't see this thing with a fighting game at all unless they format the graphics so you hold the thing vertically. And even then that's gonna be some awkward stuff. Thing is though, none of this really matters anyway, the PSP hype coupled with the GBA's current lineup will probably kill it off anyhow.
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Neo X on September 03, 2003, 03:40:48 PM
Where Nokia will fail, TTPCom will succed. They plan on releasing a gamesystem w/ a phone. Rather than have the GameButtons be the 5 and 7 of the phone they are seperate from the keypad. this should make them easyer to hit. http://www.ttpcom.com/ttpcom/bngo/
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Cap on September 03, 2003, 07:40:58 PM
from gamerfeed.com:
"Nokia announced today that Electronics Boutique will be the Canadian vendor for the upcoming handheld, N-Gage. The handheld is expected to sell for $449 CDN and games are expected to retail from $45 to $55 CDN."
what the hell is nokia thinking? $45-$55 for games? $450 for the system? only the most expensive gba games cost $45 dollars in canada, and i think thats ridiculous. on top of that, for the price of the system i could just about get a new ps2 and xbox to sit beside my gamecube. i cant see how nokia even thinks they have a chance with this thing with these kind of prices.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: shogunnononey on November 13, 2003, 04:42:51 PM
The N Gage is out and it sucks. Offical sources say that Nokia sold 400,000 consoles to stores in the U.K., but the stores only sold 500 units in its first 2 weeks out. It also only sold 5,000 units in the U.S. Which it was outsold by the Gba 20 to 1, which sold 100,00 units without any special advertising or promotions. Let the Numbers Speak.
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: KDR_11k on November 14, 2003, 10:36:56 PM
It's out for a while now. It's even cracked already, meaning you can rip games from the NG and play them on any other Symbian phone.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 15, 2003, 02:09:19 PM
whomp whomp
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: dee kay on December 19, 2003, 05:58:24 PM
since when did sony try to compete with nintendo in the handhelds?
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Majexto on December 21, 2003, 04:53:50 AM
Dee Kay ive looked at so many posts in the past couple days that you had responded to with questions that are answered incredibly easily by just reading the post.
If you would simply scroll up a couple message your answer is there.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: dee kay on December 21, 2003, 12:35:27 PM
ok no need for the attitude
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 21, 2003, 12:46:09 PM
dee kay, please just post some meaningful content. I mean, when you make comments like that, we could easily have just as much of an intelligent conversation by talking to our local brick wall. I have not seen a single one of your posts yet that is longer than one line, and/or contains any intellectual content.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: dee kay on December 22, 2003, 07:41:18 PM
ok fine
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: vudu on December 23, 2003, 11:25:51 AM
but he's got sure a great (not to mention, too large) avatar of the panasonic q. that's gotta be worth something, right?
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: TenceRiker on January 06, 2004, 04:06:47 AM
I came...I played....I was disgusted.
Seriuosly N-Gage is a mockery of the video game businesss. If it was any worse than it is already i'd pissed off at stores for sellin' it. Trust me if the employess at local "real" Gamestop ain't carryin it don't buy it. The employess at mine knew like most people it was gonna suck and don't carry it, unless you pre-order it to be shipped there. Nokia sucks at games end of case. Point. Period.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Nightingale on February 21, 2004, 10:45:03 AM
Processor , Memory , & all core specs : N-Gage Win Screensize : Gameboy Win (no Doubt) Colors on LCD : Gameboy Win (32.000), 4096 on N-Gage and I wonder why only 4096 with it's great Specs.
But Not all judges by Specs and power It's all about games choice. (and screen size of course) a huge games choice on GBA how'bout N-gage ??? try to beat it for the Rest of N-Gage life
Title: RE: Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: KDR_11k on February 21, 2004, 07:49:03 PM
The GBA can display only 512 colors at once, but yes, its pallette is larger. Also, colors aren't much of a restriction with a screen that low-res.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: Pikkcuber on March 05, 2004, 10:41:04 AM
Nightingale your missing the most important categorie- Best Games, and we all know N-gage has superior exclusive games.
Title: RE:Nokia N-Gage v.s Game Boy Advance SP
Post by: romsman on April 19, 2004, 10:23:31 AM
n-gage might have exclusive games but they aren't good, look at ashen and others,they suck,nokia's n-gage has only 2 good games: splinter cell and rayman 3 but they aren't exclusive, if you take a look at some of the GBA(sp) 's exclusive games: ex.: golden sun they rule. now some people will like some of the games for n-gage but if you look around on some sites like gamespot then you'll see that the only thing where the n-gage has suceeded in is making good games like thps and red faction play like crap. I'm not a fanboy cause i have almost every console/handheld there is exept for the n-gage(yes even the game gear) but nintendo is right about one thing: most people don't care about graphics if a game is good and fun to play with easy to use controls then it will sell much more then a game with superb graphics wich plays like it was created by cavemen.
