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Title: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 08, 2008, 12:27:40 AM
Lying in the grass, Shadow the Hedgehog came back to consciousness. "I can't... die here... What a dream," he muttered, "Shadow the Hedgehog. Why does that name haunt me? It's the only thing I can remember. And that gruesome image..."

Hearing a ruckus, Shadow walked over to a group of animals all standing by a pit of lava. They had surrounded Dr. Robotnik (Mr. Jack to his friends)and were accusing him of being responsible for the death of Gumbouzzo the Giraffe.

"He's always trying to hurt us and turn us into his robot creations," shouted one of the animals.

"I hate his moustache," shouted another animal.

"I hate fat people," shouted the slow animal.

"Silence! I am Dr. Ivo Robotnik, the greatest scientific genius in the world!" Dr. Robotnik cried out. Turning to the crowd, he yelled, "Dummies, dummies, dummies, dummies! None of you have the right suspect." Seeing Shadow, Dr. Robotnik cried out, "Ah Shadow. Say hi, and be friends."

"I'm Shadow... the Hedgehog. I was created to bring order and justice to the humans," he began to realize.

"Ah very good. Then no doubt you will be able to help out in a little pickle I find myself in. These people have a disagreement with me. Uhh, Shadow, I have a revalation. Everyone thought you died during that horrible incident... but I rescued you with one of my robots... you lost your memory that's all... You wouldn't hurt a friend would you?"

The other animals began to argue. That's not true. Who let Shadow in charge? In every game he appears in, he always screws up. Listen to me not him.

Getting upset, Shadow yelled out,"I'm Shadow the Hedgehog... no one can tell me what to do!"

"That's right, Shadow," Dr. Robotnik laughed.

"I am Shadow the Hedgehog. I and only I know what is best. No one can tell me what to do. This is WHO I AM!"

"Alright, calm down," Robotnik cautioned.

Suddenly, Shadow lapsed into an insane giggle, followed by an insane chuckle, as images flashed through his mind. "The pieces are all coming together now... it's clear what must be done. (turns around sharply) Doctor! You're going straight to the place you created me from!"

"This is madness!" Robotnik cried out.

"THIS IS TRUE!" Shadow yelled back. Then he kicked Dr. Robotnik off the edge of the pit into the boiling lava.

"Goodbye, Doctor! Death to all who oppose me!" Shadow cried out. Then he saw the Yellow Chaos Emerald that Dr. Robotnik had dropped. That meant Dr. Robotnik was the killer.

"A Chaos Emerald?! You've got to be kidding me, guys! This is like taking candy from a baby, which is fine by me," Shadow said excitedly, "Aw snap. Where's that damn fourth Chaos Emerald?" With that, Shadow wandered off.

The rest of the animals stood in silent shock and wondered about the state of Shadow's mental health. Needless to say, they stood there a long time.

That night, the Genesis mafia was getting edgy. Two days and there were still as many characters as when this game started. They needed to start taking out some of the lamer characters. That's when they settled on Golden "Tikal" Phoenix. Tikal had only appeared in one game and was just cluttering up the Sonic universe. Who would miss her?

So, they broke into her home only to find Tikal waiting for them. "I've been expecting you. I can sense your negative energy?"

"You're the hussy that activated the Chaos Control last night," one of the mafia members realized, "We lost our hit because of you. Where's that Chaos Emerald?"

"The 7 Emeralds are the servers. Chaos is power, enriched by the heart. The controller serves to unify the chaos.," Tikal explained.

"Huh?"

"Uh... The 7 Emeralds can change our thoughts into power. If this Emerald controls that power..." Tikal said, realizing her words just weren't getting through to the mafia, "How can I make you understand? All this fighting, stealing, and killing, can't be the right path to peace."

"Right. She's an extremist. Kill her now," the godfather ordered. The goons carried out the order and Tikal was whacked by the Genesis Mafia.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/sonic/golden.jpg)

Narrator: Seriously. Would it kill you to choose someone else? Well, maybe it would in the game but gah! The Day 2 curse continues. And now back to your previously scheduled story.


Meanwhile, Sonic was getting antsy. "Who's game is this anyways? It says Sonic the Hedgehog mafia, not Shadow the Hedgehog mafia. People only like him because he found the killer. Well, I found a clue to."

With that, Sonic read his clue:

Dear townies,

no ­matter what t­h­at­g­u­y says or does, don't trust him.  He claims to be a townie, but I have no way of knowing for s­u­re­­­­­­­­.

:heart;:heart;:heart;:heart; Love Townie Spokesman :heart;:heart;:heart;:heart;

The animals were stunned at this clue.

"C'mon. It means we have to go to the Casino Night Zone," Sonic yelled.

"How does that make any sen..." an animal asked but was cut off.

"It doesn't matter. It's just part of the story," Sonic answered and then raced off.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/sonic/sonic4.gif)

Day 3 begins now.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 08, 2008, 12:27:58 AM
Announcements:
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Dead:

Mr. Jack - the Killer - Voted out.
Golden Phoenix - Chaos Control - killed by mafia.

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Voting time gets extended today folks. The vote will run from now until Midnight EST tomorrow. An extra hour of voting for tomorrow. Night actions due at 12:30 am or half an hour after voting of course.

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Those who must vote today or will die:

Mario

That is all.

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Doctor Protection

Using his first protection, the doctor protects: Pale! Pale cannot be voted out or hit.

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That should take care of everything.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 12:29:13 AM
:D
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 08, 2008, 12:32:42 AM
lol at that quote. I didn't make it honestly.

Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 12:44:19 AM
OOC:

ANNOUNCEMENT: SPAK SPANG IS A LIAR.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 12:45:59 AM
[/cloak]

What did he lie about?  It might not be that bad.

[cloak]
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 12:50:26 AM
"Mr Spak Spang said that he used Chaos Control but now it says that that nice Echidna from the past, Tikal, used it. Spak is making things up! I don't believe in him anymore. Mr Espion, you told me to report suspicious people to you, so I'm dobbing on Spak Spang."
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Pale on October 08, 2008, 12:51:36 AM
I know Spak was instrumental in keeping me alive on day 1, but that is pretty suspicious.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 12:52:22 AM
Could you erase that post, please?  I've got specific reasons why, please.

I can explain, please remove that.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 12:58:21 AM
Yes I did lie about using the Chaos Control.  I have informed Vudu and thatguy about it yesterday.  I was TRYING to protect Golden Phoenix.  She never lasts long in these games. 

I told her, thatguy, and Vudu that I was acting bold and arrogant to try to protect townies.  Hopefully you will understand.

I wish I knew who all knew GP's role though. 
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 01:01:17 AM
[/cloak]

I'm a little bit surprised this got out, to be honest.  It wasn't the best decision to oust, I'd think.  Oh well.  Not my problem now.

[cloak]
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 01:03:16 AM
"Waaaaaiiit so you toold Espio? And the only two people that knew were Shadow and Espio and NOW TIKAL IS DEAD? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

OOC: vote thatguy I mean Jesus Christ. So you are protecting GP but choose to tell that guy? Good job white knight.
Temp changed while I test Maxi brb.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 01:05:28 AM
[/cloak]
Oh.  GP died.  I didn't see that at first.  Seriously, this is lame.

I didn't see it in the story, so I thought the mafia didn't make a hit.

Really, what?  Who would kill GP?  She gets killed every game.  Every game, she gets killed.  I'm sick of it.  Spak and I were trying to keep her from going into public eye so she wouldn't get killed.
[cloak]
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 01:09:46 AM
I almost missed it to.  And thatguy does have some doubts cast on you.

But, thatguy could be Mafia but why would the mafia target a regular townie that has no abilities because she used her power.

No, thatguy is not that foolish.  I believe we should wait for Vudu, he may have pulled a trap on the Mafia.  GP could have been the bait.

So far my suspicious list includes:  Mario, DAaaMan, thatguy, Pale.

Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 01:15:43 AM
Khush, for clarity's sake, did when did you post the information about GP?  Was it in the initial post, or was it in that 12:38 edit?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: decoyman on October 08, 2008, 01:18:40 AM
Damn it, mafia, why hit GP?! For real, she gets taken out early in like every game.

You guys suck. :'(
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 01:26:00 AM
The Mafia suck big time.  Why the hell did they go for GP and not Vudu, thatguy, or me.

Hell, we know who are working to unite the townies. 

Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 08, 2008, 01:35:09 AM
Khush, for clarity's sake, did when did you post the information about GP?  Was it in the initial post, or was it in that 12:38 edit?

The initial post was just "Announcments". The usual placeholder. The 12:38 edit is when all the information was added at once.

I made it clear in the story that I feel bad for GP also. I'd like to comment on the hit but I feel it best not to interfere with the game at this time. However, if you remember, ask me at the end of the mafia in the wrap-up thread my thoughts, and I'll give you my spin on it.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 01:37:39 AM
Right, I just wanted to establish that my smile was from the "Don't trust thatguy" statement, not that GP died.  I didn't realize she died until right before I posted about it.

Edit:  Vudu better not have set her up.  He better not have.  I don't care how useful she was, this didn't need to happen.  He could've gotten me, or Spak, or anyone else, the town spokesman or whatever, I don't care.  Any of them would have worked.  Every game, it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 01:54:20 AM
I would have taken a hit for GP. 

I bet you most of the players would have...but you know maybe GP was onboard if it was a setup. 
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: decoyman on October 08, 2008, 02:00:00 AM
Spak, I gave you the chance to explain yourself in PMs, but you didn't quell any of my doubts.

Your argument makes absolutely no sense; you "did it to help protect GP?" How would this protect her? It would only protect you: no longer with any power, the mafia would see you as a plain old townie, and would want to find other more powerful targets first. They'd ignore someone who no longer has a power. Basically, you made yourself safe in exchange for putting all other townies more at-risk. GP would've been safer if she'd said she had the Chaos Control power herself.

Something's fishy. Care to respond before I cast my vote?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Stogi on October 08, 2008, 02:03:00 AM
*with red eyes and a stoney face*
I have no idea what's going on.

Can someone tell me who to vote for?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 02:08:06 AM
Whatever Decoyman. 

The truth doesn't always make perfect logical sense...you can believe me or not...but I have 3 people that can backup my story.  One is dead, One a confirmed townie...and One I am not sure about. 

But I am beginning to wonder why you are trying so hard to incriminate me so early in the day without hearing from Vudu or knowing what his plan is.  I will admit I don't know the plan...and I don't want to know.

But perhaps you are hiding something.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 02:08:53 AM
Spak, I gave you the chance to explain yourself in PMs, but you didn't quell any of my doubts.

Your argument makes absolutely no sense; you "did it to help protect GP?" How would this protect her? It would only protect you: no longer with any power, the mafia would see you as a plain old townie, and would want to find other more powerful targets first. They'd ignore someone who no longer has a power. Basically, you made yourself safe in exchange for putting all other townies more at-risk. GP would've been safer if she'd said she had the Chaos Control power herself.

Something's fishy. Care to respond before I cast my vote?

Actually, let's be fair.  Most players thought Vudu would be voted out for the same reason why Spak didn't want her to reveal herself.  She was one of the two townies who definitely was a townie at the point.  And she was a secret.  Spak and I knew she had the Chaos Control role, but if we wanted to, either of us, we could have had her wait to use her ability and killed her on night one.  Plain and simple.  Then, the killer would have gotten a hit, the mafia wouldn't miss any hits, and there'd be one less role.  Spak told me that she was the Chaos Control, too.  He didn't need to.  In fact, if anything, as much as I hate to admit it, that puts doubt on me, not Spak.  If he was the one, or one of the ones that did that to her, then she wouldn't have used her ability and she would have died the first night.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: decoyman on October 08, 2008, 02:14:30 AM
Wha-??? You outright lied in the Day 2 thread, and it made no sense to do so! And now you're attacking me for calling you on it and perhaps costing GP her life???? How does this make any sense at all??? Worst yet, I HAVEN'T EVEN VOTED FOR YOU YET. I'm giving you a chance to explain yourself, and you just lash out.

Part of the reason I'm upset is because GP and I had been in contact since before the game began. Once it started, she told me her role, and I said I'd do what I could to keep her in the game as long as possible. I'm mad partly because I basically failed her.

But this attack now? You have absolutely no ground to stand on, Spak. Explain yourself, or take the votes you'll get.

Explain in PM if you want. I'll listen.

Edit: And don't even get me started on what role you may have had to play in this, thatguy. As far as I can tell, whether it be intentional or not, you both got GP killed.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 02:18:11 AM
Plain and simple:  You pointed fingers at the wrong one of us.  Did you know that she had told Spak her role before tonight?  Well, the thing is, he knew it first, between he and I.  He could have kept it to himself, and killed her, stopping her night action, killing a townie, and really screwing things up.  He didn't.  He eventually told me after we both tried to get each other killed so the other one wouldn't die on day one.  In the end, I'm the suspicious one, yet you went for him.  Isn't that fishy?

And now we're all going to sit around and wait for Vudu to say something before we go and do anything.  Typical.  Look, I'm after whoever I believe is most responsible for GP to die.  If Vudu set her up, I'm going after Vudu and anyone who was in on it.  If it was a single mafia hit, the stupidest decision ever, I'm after the mafia.  I'm not a townie any more.  I don't play for the townies, I don't play for the mafia.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: decoyman on October 08, 2008, 02:24:55 AM
Lots of things are fishy to me, thatguy.

Spak's inexplicable lie is fishy, as is his reasoning that it was meant to protect GP.
Your odd reverse psychology attacks are fishy.
Spak's retaliatory vote for me is fishy.
It's especially fishy that he did it before I even voted for him.

I'm just looking for answers, that's all. If you'd just answer the dang questions before you attack me, maybe I wouldn't be so suspicious of the both of you.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 02:26:11 AM
I will explain in Public.  As I did before. 

GP is my friend.  Almost every game I have tried to help her survive past day 2 because I know what it is like to be a target.  But GP and I talk in PMs all the time and often she has played the game because I asked her join hoping it would be different this game. 

I would have rather I died than GP.  GP contacted me in PM and asked what to do.  My plan was to use her ability day 1 so we can have a complete day with only 1 death and get a good start on day 2.  I believed that we can't risk losing roles to the Killer. 

thatguy disagreed with my plan because at first he thought it would be more important to get the information from the Doctor, inspector and such. 

The first day 1 plan worked perfectly and I began to claim credit for it...allowing GP to take a backseat from the limelight.  The Mafia could have wanted to kill me for preventing a death or to keep townies from rallying to me because I was chaos control...or that was my plan and why I exposed myself.  Then Vudu exposed himself with a plan.  I still think Vudu may have something to do with GP's death...setting a trap.

That is my reasoning behind it all.  And yes I am voting against you, because you have thrown wild accusations at me TWICE, and without even trying to varify my story with Vudu or thatguy first.  Which Vudu you should trust.  So perhaps you are trying to start an early bandwagon attack against me. 
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: decoyman on October 08, 2008, 02:31:30 AM
Your logic was not sound, Spak. Either you're lying, or you made a very bad decision with good intentions.

But the last thing either you OR thatguy should be trying to do, if you really are innocent, is to put off blame on the ONLY one who's proven publicly to be a townie at this point: vudu.

Add that to the list of "fishy stuff."

For now, I'm going to bed. Maybe I won't be so upset in the morning.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 02:32:59 AM
Spak neglected to mention that he chose to tell me about GP.  That Spak knew, we both believed we were the only ones who knew, and that he was the one who chose to tell me.  That's when I disagreed about using the power on day one.  And the reality is, Spak could have shut up about it, then killed her that night, and no one would be the wiser, as far as the game goes.  Had you known about Spak, Decoyman, then you'd know, but it's clear you didn't.  You didn't know about either Spak or I, and you certainly didn't seem to know anything about GP until tonight.  That's what's fishy.  We didn't know about you, either.  Why didn't GP mention you to either of us, if she was alright with the two of us knowing the two of us knew?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 02:38:21 AM
Why did I bring Vudu into it.  Because day 2 we knew he was definitely a townie.  So I PMed Vudu and told him I was a townie and who GP was and what her role is.

I did this so that Vudu would have a second person confirming who GP was so that they could begin to work together.  I wanted Vudu to have definite named townie he could trust for his plan. 

I am not saying Vudu necessarily killed or set up a means to purposely kill GP.  I am saying that his plan may have accidentally killed her, and hopefully it happened for a reason to find the mafia.

As for my vote against you...I don't trust you anymore this game...unless Vudu says otherwise.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Mario on October 08, 2008, 03:12:09 AM
Don't worry guys i'm playing. I have no idea who's talking to who here, so vote.. actually I think i'll wait and digest all this.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 03:23:12 AM
OOC: Dont even think, vote thatguy.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Stogi on October 08, 2008, 03:31:53 AM
You first.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 03:39:46 AM
I already have. What is this?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 08, 2008, 03:43:10 AM
Fine fine, I'll be first. vote thatguy

I realize this risks my own life. But please consider that I am just a townie without a role. ONCE AGAIN LIKE EVERY GAME. I wanted to go ahead and take the risk of first vote. And once again like every game, thatguy is living too long and weird **** is happening. Those two things probably correlate. Post thatguy, I can probably listen to Vudu or any other guaranteed townies.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 08, 2008, 03:46:51 AM
I already have. What is this?

I think the probably is you didn't bold your vote.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 03:50:19 AM
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=26392.msg460886#msg460886
I have!
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Stogi on October 08, 2008, 07:15:54 AM
Vote thatguy
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 07:20:12 AM
Well, I've found two mafia members.  Right now, I'm holding their names ransom to whichever side can tell me what happened to get GP killed.  Figure it out, tell me, and you get one.  Tell me the name of the person most responsible, and you get both.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: decoyman on October 08, 2008, 08:48:25 AM
I mentioned to NO ONE that I had been in contact w/ GP, until now when it no longer matters. That's kind of the point, honestly. "I blabbed my friend's secret all over town?" Why are you proud of that when it's the very thing that may have gotten her killed?

But you can bet that I noticed when Spak said he was the one who used the Chaos Control power. I figured at that point that he must have some sort of plan, and have been in contact with GP, so I sat back and watched.

You know what? Screw this. I don't have to defend myself here. You're grasping at straws, trying to deflect blame onto someone else. And it's not gonna work.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Mario on October 08, 2008, 08:49:57 AM
G'day cobbers, struth barramundi what are you flamin lot on about. Pickle me feathers there's some suss stuff going on here, reminds me of the day I found a buck and it turned out to be an old one cent coin, then I realised I was just bloody dreamin and had no cents, gee that dream made a lot of CENTS didn't it ahaha throw that one in the dunny, sorry bout that, oh wait that was on Sundy! Vote thatguy
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 08:56:42 AM
Well, I've found two mafia members.  Right now, I'm holding their names ransom to whichever side can tell me what happened to get GP killed.  Figure it out, tell me, and you get one.  Tell me the name of the person most responsible, and you get both.
"Espio espio I figured it out. See I was baking a cake to make everyone happy again and then I remembered that Tikal was killed by the mafia just like Gumbuzzo"

OOT: Seriously what the **** mate? She was killed by the mafia. No big mystery there. If you really have mafia identities you should be spilling them pronto and telling vudu, who we KNOW is a townie, just to save your busted arse from the vote.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 08, 2008, 09:24:22 AM
Vudu will clear everything up.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 12:09:55 PM
Ok, I think I have proven to those that need to know I am a townie.

I have a list of players that are suspicious they include:

thatguy, mario, Decoyman, maxi, and Easycure.

I do not know who to vote for yet...but right now Decoyman is my vote until I here otherwise from Vudu. 
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: decoyman on October 08, 2008, 12:27:54 PM
Spak:
I kind of want to believe that – horribly flawed logic aside – you really did have good intentions behind your lie about the Chaos Control power yesterday.

You know what... vote for me if you want. Go ahead and take out another plain ol' townie. It'd just prove to others what I suspected: that – regardless of your official role – you're causing more harm than good for the townie cause by being around. :(
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 12:36:31 PM
Decoyman:  My vote is not final.  I am waiting to hear from someone to vouche for you.

As you know often votes change late in the day all the time in Mafia and my vote may change.  But as it is, you have no worries as the bandwagon seems to be against thatguy. 
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: vudu on October 08, 2008, 03:11:47 PM
HOLY HELL GUYS

The name vudu has been typed 25 times so far in this thread.  I don't have all the answers.  I don't even have most of them.

I had nothing to do with GP's death.  I didn't mention her name or her role to anyone besides thatguy and Spak (who both bought it up first) and the other members of the townie alliance.  Since she was the least powerful members of the alliance, it doesn't add up that she was killed by someone within the alliance.  I think it was just an normal hit by the mafia hoping that she had a good role.  In all likelihood, Spak's lying in day 2 probably inadvertently increased the chances that GP would be killed, but it's hardly damning evidence about his true intentions.

Honestly, I can't even fathom how I could have "set up" GP to trick the mafia.  However, I do have one bit of round-about reasoning that might help us extract some information about GP's death.  The mafia did not know GP's role.  To prove my theory, let's pretend the opposite is true--that they were aware she was Chaos Control.  If this is the case, they would be able to reasonably assume she'd be a part of the townie alliance that was formed yesterday.  You might argue that they would want to kill her to reduce the size of the alliance.  While this is true, I think they would get more bang for their buck by killing me instead.  Not only would I be part of the alliance, I'm also a proven townie, which is more effective at leading the normal townies than anyone else.  If the mafia's goal was to kill someone from the townie alliance, they would have killed me last night.

Now, if this theory is true, that absolves thatguy, Spak and decoyman from the list of mafia suspects.  (Can anyone back up decoyman's claim that GP told him her role before she died?)  Full disclosure:  I have to admit that there are two other possibilities for the hit on GP.  The first is that the attack on her was personal, in which case that could over-ride any other motives.  The second is the mafia could someone have come up with this convoluted thinking before I did and plan this whole thing out before hand.  Both are unlikely, but they are possible.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: nickmitch on October 08, 2008, 03:44:54 PM
I don't think anyone here has seen froggy.  I don't like this place.  All the flashing lights are hurting my eyes, and every I try to fish, they kick me out.
Oh well, better luck tomorrow. :(
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 04:44:11 PM
Ok.  Well Vudu, my thinking was that you could have switched roles with GP and other another townie in your PM plan for an alliance in hope to try and fish out a Mafia member hidden in the alliance.  It is a plan that both Khush and thatguy would have done, and truthfully would have been brilliant.

But since you did not do that, then I will take your word...and thank you for backing me up.  I have unvoted Decoyman awhile ago.

Right now the 3 names I am most suspicious of are: Maxi, thatguy, and easycure.  For full disclosure thatguy believes Maxi and easycure are mafia...so that is why they are suspicious, but obviously if thatguy is mafia then the others may not be.

Why am I trusting thatguy?  I told him if he had anything to do with GP's death I will not work with ever again in mafia.  He has promised me he has nothing to do with it...and I think because of my boldness to find the reasoning to GP's death to defend himself and his honor he has gone kinda crazy.

Is thatguy safe for townies right now.  YES, I believe they are.  I believe the townies should not vote him out. 

Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 04:48:27 PM
Spak, you're messing things up for me.  Stop that.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 04:49:36 PM
thatguy:  I told you I never agreed with your plan we have our own strategies  :^P

Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 04:50:42 PM
The information presented to you was time sensitive.  How am I supposed to blackmail either of them if they know I've told other people they're in the mafia?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: bustin98 on October 08, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
For there being a large number of people in the game, not many people are talking.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2008, 05:20:22 PM
**** it:

VOTE THATGUY


Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 05:34:38 PM
I guess now's as good a time as ever to begin.

EasyCure, why did you vote for yourself on day one?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2008, 05:37:16 PM
in response to someone wanting something 'interesting' to happen.

that and regular townie roles are boring.

oh and this game confuses me so i wanted out.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 05:42:57 PM
Alright, so you wanted out, you say?  Well, then why did you try to bring focus on yourself voting for yourself?  You've already answered that question, but the answers contradict.  You say you wanted to be the "something interesting" in the game, correct?

So the game was too confusing and you wanted out, but you also wanted to make it more interesting.  That's what you just said.

However, if you really want out, the best way, especially on the townie side, is just to not vote for three days, isn't it?
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 05:56:40 PM
Fellow Townies.  I know you don't trust me yet.  I am not part of your alliance because I have no role.  I also have been talking and working some with thatguy.  This game we don't agree and we don't have an alliance.

That said, I believe thatguy can be trusted this game.  We should not vote him out, not yet at least.  We have two names that he believes are mafia...surely if one of those players is Mafia, Vudu and the townie alliance can analyze the information from 2 days of communications and PMs and vote one of them out. 

If thatguy is wrong then we know thatguy is most likely mafia and worth voting out.  If we find one of them is mafia perhaps both are...and we are well on our way to a victory.

I know my motives have been questionable and so have my decisions been questionable.  But we must consider the possibility thatguy is correct and vote accordingly. 

I am going to Vote Maxi   He will have 2 votes against him.  Let us push it over the edge and see what happens. 

Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2008, 06:08:06 PM
Alright, so you wanted out, you say?  Well, then why did you try to bring focus on yourself voting for yourself?  You've already answered that question, but the answers contradict.  You say you wanted to be the "something interesting" in the game, correct?

So the game was too confusing and you wanted out, but you also wanted to make it more interesting.  That's what you just said.

However, if you really want out, the best way, especially on the townie side, is just to not vote for three days, isn't it?

how does it contradict? I could spice things up by voting for myself, trying to start a bandwagon against me (which is how most voting is, sadly, done on the first day) and still succeed with getting voted out. Also i never said i was trying to make it interesting for myself, i voted for myself in response to someone else wanting the game to get intresting, go back and read the Day 1 thread. I even made a second post about it..

Its clear you're trying to get everyone to vote for me, Spak already did. You know what? It's fine. I'll be voted out and you'll all find out i'm just a townie. What happens then is that you Thatguy will look even more suspicious for trying to throw the scent off your own trail.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 06:15:29 PM
It is a gamble.

But Mafia is always a gamble.  I have been trying to be an information broker...and it is hard to take sides when you now so little and yet have so many theories.  I am placing some of my credibility on thatguy...he may be wrong, but he may also be right. 

If you were Mafia you would fight completely to stay alive...just like you would Easycure if you are a townie, so your protests don't mean much.  As I told Decoyman before...thatguy has the majority of the votes against him right now, and it will take a miracle to get those votes to change.  I am willing to bet on that miracle and help with my vote, because I believe in Harvey Dent....wait I believe in thatguy.  I might not tomorrow, but I believe him today.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Plugabugz on October 08, 2008, 06:30:33 PM
I am totally lost to begin with. Someone please summarize this entire thread.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2008, 06:35:52 PM
I am totally lost to begin with. Someone please summarize this entire thread.

"thatguys mafia"
"no spak is mafia"
"thatguy CAN be trusted"
"spak CANNOT be trusted"
"wait i take that back... wait i'm not sure"
"Easycure: this game blows, vote me out already to prove i'm a townie"

Or if you want the super short version: lots of BS from all sides
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 06:36:14 PM
See, but that's the thing.  You made a post after that pointing to your first post.  If you didn't care, if you wanted out, you certainly wanted to see a reaction to your vote for yourself.  You wanted everyone to see it.  I don't see the reason why you wanted everyone to see it.  That's the part that doesn't make any sense to me.  If you really wanted out, I think you'd just wait three days and die.  If you really wanted to make things interesting by voting for yourself, and also wanted out, I don't see why you'd point to yourself.

To me, it seems you wanted everyone to see and remember that you voted for yourself.  You wanted to make it look like you did the typical "I'm a bored" townie move, but you messed up.  You shouldn't have pointed back to yourself.  When typical townies announce they want to lose, they want to die, they say it, then just stop playing.  You didn't.

You go on, in day two, to post about Vudu, then to say I was wrong about Mr. Jack.  Twice more, you posted, yet you wanted to die?  You wanted out?  Still makes no sense.  Not to mention, when I learned about Mr. Jack, there were less than ten minutes left to vote.  You replied in three minutes to my notification.  For a player that doesn't want to play, that's a quick response time.

Now we move to today.  Again, for a player that wanted to die, you're posting. I PM'd you last night.  I asked you to spill the beans on who was responsible for GP's death.  In the end, this is what you say:
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1. the alliance won't be voting me out, i'm sure of it.

2. mafia won't be gunning for me unless they're fools

3. i didnt even know GP was playing ;)

if i can trust you, i'll get back to you

I can not understand a situation where the mafia would be fools for gunning down a member of the townie alliance.  I can not understand a situation where a member of the townie alliance would not vote out someone who the mafia would be fools for killing.  I can not figure out for the life of me how a townie could be so sure about both of those things.  It makes no sense to me.  The way you've played has made no sense to me.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2008, 06:46:17 PM
i see your arguments and i can understand where you're coming from so let me make this clearer:

I do want out, but i wasnt aware of the rule where you die if you dont vote for three days. I learned about it afterwords.

As for the reason i'm still participating, thats simple too. I'm freaking bored! I want out, yes, but since i'm here i might as well try. I thought that by voting myself more people would vote with me/for me. Thats why i pointed it out a second time, i wanted more people to vote for me so i could get out sooner than later. It didnt work the way i wanted to because i'm obviously still here.

And for PMing me last night, you should know that to me it was about 4am. I woke up feeling sick enought to call out of work and was only online to look for a new primary care physician because mine sucks. NWR is my homepage and while i was on you sent me a PM and like any PM i get i respond quickly becuase i get them rarely, so i'm always curious to see what they're about. You pretty much harrassed me too, trying to bully an answer out of me so i could tell you that I killed GP because its what you wanted to hear.

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The way you've played has made no sense to me.

Good. Vote me out so i can stop confusing you. Maybe i'll even change my vote from you to me
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Plugabugz on October 08, 2008, 06:56:22 PM
I VOTE THE UNIVERSE AND ALL ITS CONTENTS!
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 07:48:43 PM
Easycure:  I endorse your summary of the thread.  And I just realized that I have been part of confusing 2 mafia games by accident. 
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: nickmitch on October 08, 2008, 07:52:58 PM
A lot of people were complaining about warts here.  I thought some of them might've ran in to Froggy.  I guess not. :(
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 08, 2008, 08:01:26 PM
Just a heads up. I'll be gone in an hour and won't be around until voting is close to over so if you have any questions, you're best to ask about them now otherwise you'll have to wait for your answer.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2008, 08:03:31 PM
Easycure:  I endorse your summary of the thread.  And I just realized that I have been part of confusing 2 mafia games by accident. 

thanks and its ok, looks like i'm mucking things up myself..
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 08:04:47 PM
Easycure...don't give up on the game.  It is still early, and this game has some great interesting roles.  Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 08:30:44 PM
Stuff it, OOC for this post.
I am totally lost to begin with. Someone please summarize this entire thread.
Spak and thatguy were trying to have a contest to see who could act the most upset that GoldenPhoenix was killed. Thatguy has made absurd statements revolving around massive conspiracies.
See, but that's the thing.  You made a post after that pointing to your first post.  If you didn't care, if you wanted out, you certainly wanted to see a reaction to your vote for yourself.  You wanted everyone to see it.  I don't see the reason why you wanted everyone to see it.  That's the part that doesn't make any sense to me.  If you really wanted out, I think you'd just wait three days and die.  If you really wanted to make things interesting by voting for yourself, and also wanted out, I don't see why you'd point to yourself.

To me, it seems you wanted everyone to see and remember that you voted for yourself.  You wanted to make it look like you did the typical "I'm a bored" townie move, but you messed up.  You shouldn't have pointed back to yourself.  When typical townies announce they want to lose, they want to die, they say it, then just stop playing.  You didn't.

You go on, in day two, to post about Vudu, then to say I was wrong about Mr. Jack.  Twice more, you posted, yet you wanted to die?  You wanted out?  Still makes no sense.  Not to mention, when I learned about Mr. Jack, there were less than ten minutes left to vote.  You replied in three minutes to my notification.  For a player that doesn't want to play, that's a quick response time.

Now we move to today.  Again, for a player that wanted to die, you're posting. I PM'd you last night.  I asked you to spill the beans on who was responsible for GP's death.  In the end, this is what you say:
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1. the alliance won't be voting me out, i'm sure of it.

2. mafia won't be gunning for me unless they're fools

3. i didnt even know GP was playing ;)

if i can trust you, i'll get back to you

I can not understand a situation where the mafia would be fools for gunning down a member of the townie alliance.  I can not understand a situation where a member of the townie alliance would not vote out someone who the mafia would be fools for killing.  I can not figure out for the life of me how a townie could be so sure about both of those things.  It makes no sense to me.  The way you've played has made no sense to me.
There's only one person not making sense thatguy and it's you. Easycure didn't say that he was part of the townie alliance, if anything he made it clear that he's not affiliated with anyone at all.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 08:36:36 PM
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1. the alliance won't be voting me out, i'm sure of it.

How is he so sure of that?

Anyways, I don't think the EasyCure idea works.  Talking about it was half a charade just because Spak posted the two people I've suspected well before I was done talking to them to confirm things.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 08:48:21 PM
Because he's done nothing that would warrant any sort of attention. Not like you! Dancing about like a clown. You've muddied the waters so much that I'm not even sure of my own role anymore!

Woah found some stuff out! Vote Spak Spang just kidding.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 08, 2008, 09:06:44 PM
Vote Thatguy
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: RABicle on October 08, 2008, 09:09:26 PM
Ok you can change your vote now Maxi, Just wanted to see if I could trust you. I don't know who the mafia godfather is. It's probably thatguy though so I'm reinstating my vote thatguy
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 09:22:56 PM
Vote Spak-Spang

Vote Maxi
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: vudu on October 08, 2008, 09:36:08 PM
VOTE MAXI

He either has no idea how this game is played or someone told him to "act naive" because we'll go easy on the newbie if we think he's clueless.

Guess we'll find out.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Pale on October 08, 2008, 09:40:44 PM
I guess I'll follow Vudu again.

Vote Maxi
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Toruresu on October 08, 2008, 09:45:25 PM
Vudu's judgement FTW

VOTE MAXI
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2008, 10:05:57 PM
thatguy you are making a mistake voting for me.  Change your vote...Perhaps you can save yourself.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 11:29:14 PM
If you are someone I should be suspicious of, you should send me a PM.  I'll keep things worth my while, mmm'k?

If I'm reading this correctly, it's five to five, Maxi and I are even.  There are no other votes.

There are nineteen players in the game.  I don't care which side you choose, unless your goal is to get killed by three days of non-voting, go ahead and vote, please.  Makes the party a bit more fun.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: stevey on October 08, 2008, 11:50:59 PM
Voters for Maxi
Toruresu
Pale
vudu
thatguy
Spak-Spang

Voters for thatguy
RABicle
Maxi
EasyCure
(DAaa)
Stogi
Mario

Error: No Tie Detected! 
6~=5 and 6>5
The vote is for thatguy!
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 11:53:16 PM
Oh.  I miscounted.  Meh, sucks for me.  Eleven voters, eight no-shows.  You know, you could vote if you wanted to, stevey.

So I don't have perfect information, but after everything went through today, I believe the mafia players are:
Maxi
Stogi
Mario
DAaaMan

Don't use a hit as proof of who may be revenge-targeting whom, you'll be manipulated too easily.  Have fun!
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 08, 2008, 11:57:57 PM
Is it the deadline yet?

EDIT: NOPE. 3 more minutes.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: stevey on October 08, 2008, 11:58:04 PM
And tie the vote kill everyone who didn't or possibly get the blame for killing a townie??
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 08, 2008, 11:59:29 PM
About...too late now, anyways.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 09, 2008, 12:01:14 AM
And that's a wrap.

Final tally looks to be:

Thatguy - 6 votes
Maxi - 5 votes.

Verification coming.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 09, 2008, 12:03:31 AM
Yep. The tally is correct. Night actions due in half an hour. Feel free to lock this thread up.
Title: Re: Mafia XXVIII: Sonic The Hedgehog. Day 3. Casino Night Zone.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 09, 2008, 12:39:49 AM
Well, I think we will see thatguy was a townie all along.