Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Snipper64 on September 27, 2008, 08:26:55 PM
Title: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Snipper64 on September 27, 2008, 08:26:55 PM
You might want to take a peek here (http://wiinintendo.net/2008/09/27/rumor-next-ds-to-include-camera-music-playback-and-coming-this-year/) there they have info on a claimed new version of ds comming out this year for Japan. They also go the source link there, but here the the quoted claims:
"Okay, this is a BIG RUMOR. Make sure you know that before reading the rest. Word from NeoGAF is that a Nekkei newspaper ad (which they have a picture of) in Japan has revealed details on a new DS (new model or re-design, we don’t know). Here’s what it says about this supposed new DS:
- Digital Camera included - Music playback function - Better Wi-Fi connectivity - Larger screen - New types of games that use the camera - Exchange data between Wii and DS using a SD card - Releases this year in Japan - Costs under 20,000 yen (Approx. $189 USD)
Honestly, this sounds like the most believable rumor out of all the rumors I’ve seen except for one thing that makes me think it’s fake. How could this DS (that sounds more like a new model than a re-design) release this year already? I know that Nintendo has been secretive about its products lately, but this just seems too early of a release date. Having said that, I really hope this is true. I have an original DS and have been holding off on the DS Lite for a while, so this would be perfect for me."
Thats it, hammer away and to the staff: ty for making great podcast, I was listening to one in high school the other day in the lybary, reading a book with I-pod in ears, they start talking about a bad golf game, and I was laughing so load, every one though I was crazy!
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 27, 2008, 08:34:30 PM
No he did no kill me and take my username.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 27, 2008, 10:02:23 PM
Kohler posted this on Wired, so it's legit from all appearances.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 27, 2008, 10:03:16 PM
I don't get how you think this is a new model. It still plays the old DS games and it isn't imposing a new games format which is incompatible with the older DS versions... In other words, its kinda like the DS Lite revision which offered better capabilities to the DS Phat, but it didn't break compatibility by creating a new games format that wouldn't work on the Phat. So this seems like just a mere revision to me.
Now granted, it says there will be games that make use of the new camera feature, and obviously that feature won't work on lites and phats (unless Nintendo releases a camera add on for those systems), but even then the games should still be otherwise fully functional except for that feature.
So the gaming aspects of this revision remain the same as with the Phat and Lite, only now, Nintendo seems to have finally wised up and tossed in media capabilities, which really make it more competitive to the PSP in those respects. But again, these are just additional features being tacked onto the DS, rather than an all new DS2.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 27, 2008, 10:09:57 PM
Nintendo seems to have finally wised up and tossed in media capabilities, which really make it more competitive to the PSP in those respects.
Or, to be more accurate, make the PSP less competitive with the DS.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Pale on September 27, 2008, 10:24:22 PM
They pretty much have to increase the resolution in my mind if they are gonna increase the screen size. The pixels are already too big on the DS. Every time i go from using my iPod touch to using my DS, I'm kind of shocked inside. I don't want those pixels to get even bigger.
Otherwise though, I'm about ready for a new DS anyway, so I would welcome this news
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: TheFleece on September 27, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
In the past I've read comments from Nintendo always acknowledging the merge of tools and functions into devices and the word was that they weren't very interested in branching off- this was in relation to a phone by Nintendo. So this seems sort of weird in that this new product would be packed with functions that make it appealing. I don't know what to really believe, but I have a feeling I should rely on this because NO ON E has mentioned a camera and music playback for functions to a new model DS and if I know Nintendo they will come from the farthest path of left field and spin us on our heads causing people to flip out and debate about all new topics about gaming. I sure do hope it's legit. I had the Game Boy camera and printer and Nintendo's use of sending game screens via the Wii seems like an intro to a camera and well since everything's got a camera in it already- well, why not? As for the music play back- Nintendo has really gone far to deter people using home brew methods to make the DS do things it wasn't meant to. Nintendo has a service in Japan that allows info to be transferred over to a SD card that fits into the DS slot. Players are able to download anime and manga- I forget the name of the service. That means they can use the tool in the states to let us store files and I guess listen to whatever we want. I guess we will find out (hopefully) come Thursday.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Spinnzilla on September 27, 2008, 10:32:47 PM
If the pricing is right, that's a pretty good deal.
A new system is welcomed in my book, though to me, the DS just hasn't felt like it has been around that long.
But if it really wants to be a nintendo product it will be equipped with a telescope and airbag support.
Let's hope downloadable Gameboy games will come to somewhere soon.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 28, 2008, 12:46:43 AM
Why do I get the feeling this may be a Japan only release.
Importing may be something I want to do...though truthfully, I would like them to up the processor and memory some if they are going to release a new model.
I hope this is real, but I also hope it isn't.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: IceCold on September 28, 2008, 02:13:32 AM
The DS can go another two years easily before bowing out.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Pale on September 28, 2008, 10:54:50 AM
This could very well be Japan only, but only if it adds absolutely nothing to the gaming aspects of the device in my opinion.
So yeah, if it's just music and pictures, and the games are exactly the same it may not come out here. I don't think I'd want one if that was the case anyway. I already spent too much money importing a Q once in my life (only to have it break 3 years later).
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Adrock on September 28, 2008, 01:34:44 PM
I called this at E3... then it didn't happen. Then, more recently, I called that this wouldn't happen at Nintendo's little conference. I'm sticking to that. I'd love to be wrong. I'm waiting until that conference before I break down and buy a new DS (gave mine to my brother) when Order of Ecclesia comes out.
One thing I find a bit odd is that Nintendo would be adding an awful lot to an existing platform which begs the question, why not just hold off until a successor is ready to be released? It's not like the DS needs help selling. Sure, PSP had a few victories here and there, but it better have with the games that came out.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 28, 2008, 02:04:58 PM
DS sales are slowing down in Japan. That's why Nintendo is doing this. U.S. sales don't need any help right now, so I bet we won't see this in the U.S. until next year some time.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Snipper64 on September 28, 2008, 02:55:12 PM
Yup, like they say in the source, I agree that it's a fake, only because it says it'll release "THIS Year". Nintendo wouldn't hold a trump card like that, thats the type of thing they would've/should've mention at E3, or even last years E3. They would've anounced it by now for sure in my book.
Of course, if a new modal was to come out, it may have a built in camra though...
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Snipper64 on September 28, 2008, 02:58:22 PM
*Snipe buries the old snipper64 into ground, he takes a chisal and puts on tombstone "DAaaMan64 "*....
Err... killing? what ever would you mean?
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 28, 2008, 03:16:26 PM
It is a pretty sweet avatar though.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 28, 2008, 06:47:24 PM
I called this at E3... then it didn't happen. Then, more recently, I called that this wouldn't happen at Nintendo's little conference. I'm sticking to that. I'd love to be wrong. I'm waiting until that conference before I break down and buy a new DS (gave mine to my brother) when Order of Ecclesia comes out.
I'm thinking they WILL announce it at their upcoming conference. It makes perfect sense, if you think about it... Nintendo NEVER releases a new system any time of the year except during the holiday season, and guess what's coming up around the corner after Nintendo's conference? That's right! The holiday season... so I'm thinking they'll release the new DS THIS YEAR soon after they announce it.
The reason they didn't announce it at E3 is pretty obvious. If they did announce it, potential DS owners wouldn't buy the Lites that are out, and would just wait until the new model came out. In the meantime, the PSP would be kicking the DS's ass because no one would buy the old DS models because of the newer one on the horizon... plus, announcing it at E3 would have meant the competition would have known about it, and that meant Sony might have put another revision of their own into the works, or possibly a price drop or something like that...
So Nintendo was wise to not announce this back at E3. But of course, we're assuming that this rumor is true, and it very well not be true... but it makes perfect sense if it is true.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 28, 2008, 06:53:11 PM
Yup, like they say in the source, I agree that it's a fake, only because it says it'll release "THIS Year". Nintendo wouldn't hold a trump card like that, thats the type of thing they would've/should've mention at E3, or even last years E3. They would've anounced it by now for sure in my book.
As I said in my previous post, I think it made perfect sense that Nintendo wouldn't announce it at E3. E3 was months ago, and this new DS revision won't be released until the holidays (which is always the best time to release new hardware), in the meantime, the DS Lite's sales would grind to a halt, because everyone would just wait for the better model to come out. So Nintendo kept its existence a secret up until just before its release, because they didn't want the sales of the Lite to suffer. Think about it...
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Adrock on September 29, 2008, 05:16:32 PM
DS sales are slowing down in Japan. That's why Nintendo is doing this. U.S. sales don't need any help right now, so I bet we won't see this in the U.S. until next year some time.
According to Enterbrain, DS dominated August. Sales are down from last year though it seems more from thae fact that everyone and their mother has one rather than of a lack of interest. Nintendo doesn't need to release a redesign, especially one that adds functionality. While I'd undoubtedly buy a redesign, I have to question what the hell the point is. If Nintendo is worried about sales in Japan, they shouldn't be. Dragon Quest IX is still coming.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Kairon on September 29, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
We'll find out soon enough I guess...
Actually, this redesign could drive me to buy a DS Lite if it bricks the R4 and homebrew. I have an unused R4 chip and grand plans to make some homebrew games that I haven't capitalized on!
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Snipper64 on September 30, 2008, 07:33:26 PM
From my source, it was confermed by nintendo it self!
There is the main source, but contains the link to the real source.
"DS Village claims that a source within Nintendo has revealed that the new DS model is indeed real and has a few more details. The software developer within Nintendo that they spoke to says he has seen the new DS model. Below are the tidbits he revealed:
- Larger and higher-resolution screens - Still has a 4:3 display and not widescreen - Has some new features, like the camera - Camera is of “fairly high resolution” and is pointed away from the player
The developer said “he and his colleagues had fun pointing the camera at background objects so as to make it appear that the screens of the DS were transparent.” This sounds real enough to me and fits what we already know about the new DS model. Tomorrow night can’t come soon enough! (Note: The above picture is from a previous camera attachment for the DS, not of the new DS model)"
Take a look, it even has a cool pic!
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Pale on October 01, 2008, 10:02:32 AM
Assuming they are higher resolution screens (which I'm not sold on yet) I wonder if they will have some sort of smoothing built in for older DS games.
If it requires new versions of games, a la Game Boy Color games, I'll be bummed.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: KDR_11k on October 01, 2008, 11:49:10 AM
I doubt that, probably just some black space around the game view with the extra pixels only getting used for the camera.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 01, 2008, 03:34:26 PM
I'm sure the games for it won't be in a new format. But I'll bet you that some new DS games will make use of that new camera feature, and that feature obviously won't be available when the games are played in older DS models... but except for that one feature, there shouldn't be any problems, I would hope...
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: jakeOSX on October 01, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
VC ON DS VC ON DS!!!
i mean it won't happen, but i can pray/beg/cry about it, no?
VC VC VC! DS DS DS!
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Pale on October 01, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
Ya know, the SD card stuff could be for that reason....maybe...
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 01, 2008, 03:46:26 PM
I would really like to see this model have some upgraded version of Pictochat built into it that lets you actually talk to people over Wi-Fi instead of just 50 ft away... And they should also have some sort of Mario Paint type program built in as well, and with that you could edit the pictures you make with your camera and then put them onto an SD card and then move them to a computer where you could print them or whatever. It would also be great to let you design characters in the games you play. Kinda like the way Miis work, but much better because you have more options and control. That's what I would really love to see.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Snipper64 on October 01, 2008, 04:45:00 PM
"MCV (The Market for Computer and Video Games) has now confirmed that the new DS model will be announced at the conference. MCV’s sources told them that Satoru Iwata (President of Nintendo) will make the announcement at 5 am UK time (which is midnight tonight, so maybe the conference is slightly earlier than Kotaku reported). MCV says the new model will have a MP3 player and a camera, and mention that the launch date and price are unknown, though “it will be a surprise to see its arrival delayed until after Christmas”. They called it the “multimedia model” in reference to it and I thought that the DS Media or DS Multimedia is a good name, so maybe that will be its name. We’ll find out in around 12 hours when the conference begins!"
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Snipper64 on October 01, 2008, 04:49:08 PM
Yes it is, it is the saphire from orcarena of time, I also have the other 2 gems I could use, you can find them animated on photo bucket.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 01:15:33 AM
Ok we got details:
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Update 1: The GBA slot is gone (nooo!), while the size has been reduced by 12% or 2.6 millimeters.
Update 2: And we have a 3 Megapixel camera, music playback, and screens that are expanded to 3.25 inches!
Update 3: There's an SD slot also, built-in memory, an on-board browser, and game downloads that use Wii Points! The DSi will come with 1,000 free Wii Points.
Update 4: Correction: make that two cameras!
Update 5: A new download service to accompany WiiWare: DSWare is confirmed.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 02, 2008, 01:20:18 AM
I can do without the GBA slot. I did play some GBA games on my DS back in the first year or two, but I really don't anymore. Plus I still got my Gameboy SP.
But its pretty obvious why Nintendo is dropping this, if you think about it... they want to make consumers BUY or REBUY the GB, GBC, and GBA games from the DSware service. So get ready to buy all your old favorites all over again.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 01:24:21 AM
Now the ultimate question Can I play my Wii Virtual Console and some wiiware games on this thing?
If so I'll sell my DS Lite get a GBA and save some money to buy this which will play DS games and I'll be set. No word if better graphics, it seems odd to not do anything hardware wise besides these new stuff.
I mean the newest DS games do look amazing, but the graphics are caped.
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Mikintosh on October 02, 2008, 04:32:15 AM
Now the ultimate question Can I play my Wii Virtual Console and some wiiware games on this thing?
If so I'll sell my DS Lite get a GBA and save some money to buy this which will play DS games and I'll be set. No word if better graphics, it seems odd to not do anything hardware wise besides these new stuff.
I mean the newest DS games do look amazing, but the graphics are caped.
They can't change the graphics because they're not releasing new games just for this thing; it's just an upgrade of the original. I agree tho, the graphics looked rough compared to the PSP at launch, and that was four years ago...
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Snipper64 on October 02, 2008, 06:32:08 AM
Ok, it's been anounce by nintendo yestoryday, here is the summery, but click on the link for many pics of it and the confrence.
"The rumors finally come to an end tonight as Nintendo wraps up their Japanese press conference. Enough jibber jabber let’s get into the details.
The size has been reduced 12% and 2.6 millimeters.
There is an SD card slot so you could take your images from the photo channel and put it on your DSi
The DSi has a larger screen, 3.25 inches. There’s a camera, and an audio-playing abilities. The camera is 3 megapixels. (Wow that’s more than my phone)
You can edit the picture using the touch screens. And no that is not a typo. There will be two touch screens! When you play back audio you could edit the speed.
Wii points has a new name “Nintendo Points” why is this you might ask? Because now you could download games and possibly apps for your DSi via Nintendo DS Shop. The DSi has a built in web browser also. Hopefully it will work great with blogging!
The DSi will come with 1,000 Nintendo Points when you buy it. This goes until March 2010 for Japan. No word on US yet.
The DSi will release in Japan for 18,900 yen (About 180 US) on November 1st in Japan. It will come in white and black."
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: jakeOSX on October 02, 2008, 07:21:08 AM
hm. well, i was invisioning one purchase, say star tropics, and being able to play it on the wii or the ds... but the ability to buy stuff on the ds alone is great news.
i don't know why we aren't getting this before christmas, maybe as a last push for ds lites? but then why announce it before christmas?
Title: Re: New DS model Details :rumor
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
300,000 pixels (what we are reporting at NWR) is NOT 3 megapixels.
640x480 = lame!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Toruresu on October 02, 2008, 10:54:06 AM
Two touch screens?!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 02, 2008, 11:57:26 AM
I will buy this IF I can play my Virtual Console games on the DSi without repurchasing them.
If Nintendo does that they have my money. Even if it is just Genesis, SNES, TG16, Neo Geo, and whatnot.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 02, 2008, 12:06:44 PM
wow that has some interesting features...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 12:53:49 PM
20 Questions for DSi (http://tinycartridge.com/post/52737088/20-questions-posed-by-nintendos-dsi) I agree with 100%.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 02, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
If that's true, I'm guessing the top touch screen is only used for the built-in software, as well as newer DSware games. Nintendo might release new DS games that would make use of that, but they wouldn't be able to work in Phats and Lites...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 02:59:22 PM
If that's true, I'm guessing the top touch screen is only used for the built-in software, as well as newer DSware games. Nintendo might release new DS games that would make use of that, but they wouldn't be able to work in Phats and Lites...
I could of swore i read somewhere that its confirmed that DSi's will only have ONE touch screen.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 02, 2008, 03:23:31 PM
GoNintendo stated that it is only 1 touchscreen.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 02, 2008, 03:44:45 PM
i like how you can lower/take out the instruments/vocals on the music. pretty neat, but completely random function.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 02, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
300,000 pixels (what we are reporting at NWR) is NOT 3 megapixels.
640x480 = lame!
but the external camera lens seems bigger (and thus probably has a better sensor)... I have no doubt, however, that the internal one is indeed 0.3MP...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 03:57:10 PM
i like how you can lower/take out the instruments/vocals on the music. pretty neat, but completely random function.
Not random, theres a few things out there that do this with music so begginer musicians can learn to play a certain part of song by ear. Its a wonderful addition to the DS i'd say.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: AV on October 02, 2008, 04:35:48 PM
Interesting thing to mention. A little investigative reporting.
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Built-in Opera Nintendo DSi web browser that will run faster than the previous web browser, "and so will the WI-Fi connections," adds Reggie.
The Memory Expansion Pak, much like the Rumble Pak for the Nintendo DS is a DS Option Pak. When inserted into a DS's GBA slot, the Memory Pak adds 8MB of RAM to the DS.[citation needed]
Two versions of the Memory Expansion Pack are available. One is compatible with both the DS and DS Lite, although the cartridge's size causes it to stick out of the latter. A smaller version is available which fits flush with the body of the DS Lite, but it cannot be used in the original DS. Two different Browser packages are available, one containing the large Expansion Pak, and one containing the Lite-only Expansion Pak. Availability varies by region - in Japan and Europe, both were available at launch, while in North America and other regions, the version containing the larger Expansion Pak is only available by mail order.
It has slight similarities to the Nintendo 64 Expansion Pak. The Nintendo DS Browser is the only official Nintendo DS software that requires this hardware, but it has been suggested that the expansion could be used for other software,[9] including optional graphical updates that would allow a better experience if the card is inserted, in addition to other games that could require the expansion. However, it has been utilised in a number of pieces of homebrew software such as DSLinux, albeit unofficially. It has also been cloned as part of the EZ Flash 3-in-1 SLOT-2 device.
Now we know DS has faster online abilities, and its assumed to be a better program HOWEVER is it safe to assume that it will also have the extra RAM built into the hardware to insure the program works best. the program did require RAM before so this could mean the DSi will have MORE RAM than DS Lite/DS built in and ready to use.
A little more RAM can help things in games and give a little extra life to the graphics card of the DS. Or am I over thinking things.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 05:41:15 PM
I'm confused. The "well into 2009" comment is cryptic and ultimately, useless. What the hell does that mean anyway? Most news sites have pegged it as late 2009, but Nintendo's description is completely subjective. I would argue that as early as May can be considered "well into 2009."
I don't know why Nintendo is waiting so long to launch this thing worldwide. For the record, I consider anything after January, two months after Japan gets DSi, too long to wait. What the hell is the delay? They've convinced tons of people, myself included, to hold out on getting DS because something much better is on the horizon. Oh please, don't take my money! Drop the price of DS Lite and launch DSi as soon as possible everywhere. That way, there's incentive to buy either. I, personally, don't think I can pass up the possibility of new games exclusive to the DSi. This has Mario Artist written all over it. If the camera(s) can record video, this is the ultimate handheld gaming device. And on top of that, this revision encourages more Wii/DS interaction. Nintendo reps can run their mouths about this being for the family and whatnot, but there is too much potential for this thing on its own and as a new toy for the Wii.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 02, 2008, 05:53:04 PM
I agree with you but i think they're holding off on bringing it here to rape consumers for money. Notice i say consumers in general as not Us, the 'fanboys'
Sure we the gamers will know to hold off on buying a DSL because of whats on the horizon but soccer moms and grandparents every where looking for a holiday gift will still buy DSLs and those same people might buy their (spoiled) kids a DSi down the road whenever its released here.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: vudu on October 02, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
I'm confused. The "well into 2009" comment is cryptic and ultimately, useless. What the hell does that mean anyway? Most news sites have pegged it as late 2009, but Nintendo's description is completely subjective. I would argue that as early as May can be considered "well into 2009."
They're saying "well into 2009" because they don't want to hurt holiday sales. I fully expect to see it released sometime towards the end of Q1/beginning of Q2.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Adrock on October 02, 2008, 06:05:29 PM
Sure we the gamers will know to hold off on buying a DSL because of whats on the horizon but soccer moms and grandparents every where looking for a holiday gift will still buy DSLs and those same people might buy their (spoiled) kids a DSi down the road whenever its released here.
That same logic didn't stop parents from rebuying their (spoiled) kids a DS when Lite came out. Holding out until "well into 2009" does nothing except postpone when some people give Nintendo their money. Like I said drop the price of Lite, and release DSi as soon as possible. Everyone wins. Since many parents won't know the difference and most kids won't care until they see another kid with DSi, parents will buy their kids the lower priced Lite.... then probably buy DSi down the line when their poor parenting skills kick in and they adhere to the whims of their petulant children.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 02, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
Preorder your DSi here (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9h-49-en-70-3163.html)
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Pale on October 02, 2008, 07:49:49 PM
My guestimate is June.... so I'm thinking a couple months later than what vudu is saying... but in all honesty, it probably depends on what else Nintendo has releasing around then.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: UncleBob on October 02, 2008, 07:59:07 PM
When does Nintendo's Fiscal year start?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: King of Twitch on October 02, 2008, 08:06:28 PM
April 1? Or whenever the Pikmin first see their shadow
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 03, 2008, 09:50:19 AM
Sure we the gamers will know to hold off on buying a DSL because of whats on the horizon but soccer moms and grandparents every where looking for a holiday gift will still buy DSLs and those same people might buy their (spoiled) kids a DSi down the road whenever its released here.
That same logic didn't stop parents from rebuying their (spoiled) kids a DS when Lite came out. Holding out until "well into 2009" does nothing except postpone when some people give Nintendo their money. Like I said drop the price of Lite, and release DSi as soon as possible. Everyone wins. Since many parents won't know the difference and most kids won't care until they see another kid with DSi, parents will buy their kids the lower priced Lite.... then probably buy DSi down the line when their poor parenting skills kick in and they adhere to the whims of their petulant children.
i actually agree with you. My post was meant to try and explain Nintendos possible logic since we all know they do some silly things from time to time.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 03, 2008, 11:13:56 AM
I'm very curious to see how much this will cost from Play-Asia. The black DSi is a rather tasty little piece of hardware.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:41:31 PM
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nintendo-dsi-spec-not-high-enough-to-grow-user-base-says-ubs/?biz=1 In the article above this analyst thinks it won't do well in the marketplace.
Agree disagree?Your thoughts.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/207322/nintendos-ds-lite-versus-dsi-by-the-numbers/ A comparison of DSL and DSi
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 03, 2008, 01:03:02 PM
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nintendo-dsi-spec-not-high-enough-to-grow-user-base-says-ubs/?biz=1 In the article above this analyst thinks it won't do well in the marketplace.
Agree disagree?Your thoughts.
Disagree, Apple releases slightly different Ipods every year and they sell TONS. and the DSi has pretty significant upgrades for a nintendo system.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on October 03, 2008, 01:32:51 PM
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nintendo-dsi-spec-not-high-enough-to-grow-user-base-says-ubs/?biz=1 In the article above this analyst thinks it won't do well in the marketplace.
Agree disagree?Your thoughts.
I think that delaying the release in the US will cause a huge demand for it and Nintendo will be able to sell bundle sets like hot cake. I also agree with Spinzilla- Apple releases new products about twice a year and people lose their minds over them, consumerism is consumerism.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Adrock on October 03, 2008, 04:25:21 PM
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nintendo-dsi-spec-not-high-enough-to-grow-user-base-says-ubs/?biz=1 In the article above this analyst thinks it won't do well in the marketplace.
Agree disagree?Your thoughts.
Agree. It won't necessarily "grow" the userbase any more than Lite has/is. However, many DS owners (Lite or original) will buy DSi. Nintendo has essentially sold 3 of the same product to many people. Now, we can assume that these people hand over their older models to someone else though I find trade-ins (mostly to help offest the price of buying a shiny new DSi) a much more believable scenario in most cases. That said, the numbers will suggest that the usebase has increased though that is ultimately misleading.
If Nintendo really wants to expand their userbase, they need to release appealing software. Titles like Nintendogs and Brain Age did just that. And this isn't necessarily about appealing to non-gamers. If Nintendo scored a brand new Metal Gear, would that not appeal to Metal Gear fans who may or may not own a DS.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Kairon on October 03, 2008, 08:58:48 PM
The DS has almost all bases covered in software though. Mertal Gear is such a niche fanbase, that's why it's one of the few things that could expand it's base.
I DO think that the features of the DSi can expand it's base though, and continue to drive growth in traditionally under-evaluated markets: adults and females in particular.
Additionally, the way it opens up a new downloadable software space should almost qualify as expanding the market since it adds another avenue to utilize the current fanbase.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: AV on October 03, 2008, 09:54:16 PM
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/nintendo-dsi-spec-not-high-enough-to-grow-user-base-says-ubs/?biz=1 In the article above this analyst thinks it won't do well in the marketplace.
Agree disagree?Your thoughts.
Disagree, Apple releases slightly different Ipods every year and they sell TONS. and the DSi has pretty significant upgrades for a nintendo system.
I agree with Spinnzilla . The only real concern is this will be perceived as the new DS or upgrade to DS. The people may say "meh I don't need to upgrade" if people think this replaces DS Lite this well sell well, but still it might disappoint people who want better graphics.
It can go either way, but I think 70% chance DSi will be huge
Edit:
I edited up a Youtube movie clicky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdZU-IfNF5Y) My overall thoughts on DSi
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Adrock on October 04, 2008, 03:15:14 PM
At the same time, there are still people who didn't upgrade to Lite. There will certainly be people who won't upgrade and that won't hurt sales. DSi is kind of the Gameboy Color of this portable generation since, despite what Nintendo says, there will be DSi only games though publishers will likely support both and DSi games will be far fewer in number.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Snipper64 on October 05, 2008, 12:00:34 AM
Hmm.... I like how it seems to have upcomming camra games. Yes they have cheap ones on Xbox, or computers, but hopefully thes are better made!
(I am so happy this post is now an "offiacial post", I feel the love :P )
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 06, 2008, 06:00:32 AM
When have analysts ever handled the DS and Wii correctly with predictions?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: stevey on October 06, 2008, 02:04:33 PM
Boo, for the first time ever Nintendo is region-locking a handheld gaming system :(
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DSi software (software that is only compatible with DSi) is region locked, eg: European DSi software can only be played on European DSi consoles, Nintendo DS software however is region free so you can play any DS software on DSi from any region. You can also browse the Internet on your DSi wherever you are in the world and exchange your photos with friends from around the world
link (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/06/dsi-only-software-is-region-locked/)
BOYCOTT!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Pale on October 06, 2008, 03:23:19 PM
So DSi specific games confirmed? Was that confirmed before? I was expecting only DSi specific features in DS games.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on October 06, 2008, 03:27:20 PM
I think it refers to the downloadable apps, right? Because Wii points are region locked as well right?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Pale on October 06, 2008, 05:08:01 PM
Oh good point. Then yeah, that makes sense. I won't be importing.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 06, 2008, 05:51:30 PM
I like how nintendo's views on their consoles and handhelds differ completely. They won't add a harddrive to the wii because it cost more to manufacture and be more expensive retail wise, but they'll redesign the DS every two years and sell it for more.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on October 06, 2008, 06:27:28 PM
I like how nintendo's views on their consoles and handhelds differ completely. They won't add a harddrive to the wii because it cost more to manufacture and be more expensive retail wise, but they'll redesign the DS every two years and sell it for more.
I don't think there really is a need for a hard drive- the Wii has two USB sockets that aren't being used for anything and in theory any drive could be hooked up and operate just fine if Nintendo allowed it. Why make a device when there are so many around to start with? What I don't like is that this is the first I've ever heard of a hand held has been region locked (ever?). If the DSi is coded by region to download content from that country's server than importing it would be a waste.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: mac<censored> on October 06, 2008, 07:43:51 PM
The DSi is very underwhelming. In fact, on balance, I think it seems like a downgrade more than anything else, at a higher price to boot.
On the positive side, you get:
+ Slightly larger screens + Camera (but a very crappy one) + Some kind of vague wifi improvements
On the negative side:
- No GBA compatibility (this is a real bummer -- I've got lots of fun GBA games, and my GBA hardware is not doing so well) - REGION-LOCKING
The size difference seems so incredibly slight as to be meaningless.
The region-locking is the biggest stupidity, and an ill harbinger for the future of Nintendo handhelds, but I'm guessing it (and maybe other changes to lock down the DS) is the real reason Nintendo is releasing the DSi in the first place.
The DS is such a nice little system, I guess it was naive to think Nintendo could keep up their winning streak... I'm kinda glad I bought a DS lite before the DSi becomes the only choice!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 07, 2008, 01:13:05 AM
Pale, I don't think they ever confirmed it, but you had to assume that there would be some "games" (probably better described as "applications") that would exclusively use the camera for input, and therefore be DSi-only. I'm thinking something like Mario Paint.
I'm sure there will be more conventional games that utilize the camera as well, but I'm not expecting a ton of them. I think the camera will more be used as a "personalization tool" in those instances.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 07, 2008, 03:05:52 AM
- No GBA compatibility (this is a real bummer -- I've got lots of fun GBA games, and my GBA hardware is not doing so well) - REGION-LOCKING
Don't forget the DSi has a shorter battery life than the DS Lite. But to be fair, the DSi does charge up faster, so that kinda helps balance things, I think...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Djunknown on October 07, 2008, 11:11:22 PM
Looks like "Nintendo Points not exactly multiplatform." (http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-points-not-exactly-multiplatform-106706.phtm)
From the source:
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Before you shove that 5,000 Nintendo Points card on to a spanking new DSi, take note points are fixed to a console.
??? :'(
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 07, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
thats a small hastle but i dont really mind it. It'll keep me from doing too many impulse buys, which is great... for me, not nintendo ;)
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 08, 2008, 10:56:38 AM
I'm pretty entertained by that guy's username.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Snipper64 on October 08, 2008, 06:24:27 PM
ANother update of BIG infomation. Give your Kudos to wiinintendo.com for the info....
"DSi Restrictions Due to Missing GBA Slot Filed under: Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:35 pm
We’ve all been wondering about this, so here’s your answer. Below is a list of games that will be affected by the missing GBA slot on the DSi. Some of them (i.e. MP3 Player and Web Broswer), though, have been added to the new design.
Non-Playable games
Famicom Game Adapter Guitar Hero On Tour Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades Face Training / Otona no DS Kao Training Love and Berry Mein Vital Coach / My Health Coach Nintendo MP3 Player Slide Adventure: Mag Kid Tony Hawk’s Motion Opera Web Browser
Slight restrictions (most related to Rumble Pak)
Clubhouse Games Arkanoid DS Daigasso! Band Brothers Hote Dusk Magnetica / Actionloop Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time Metroid Prime Hunters Metroid Prime Pinball Pokémon Dash Pokémon Diamond/Platinum/Pearl Project Rub / Feel the Magic XX/XY Space Invaders Extreme Star Fox Command"
ALSO....
"Nintendo DSi Software Will Be Region-Locked Filed under: Interview, News, Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:50 pm
Here is a bit of info for all you who are planning on importing a DSi. It seems that the DSi will not be region locked for basic functions (i.e. DS cartridge games, camera, and internet browser). However, things such as the DSWare services will be region locked.
“DSi is region locked because DSi embeds net communication functionality within itself, and we are intending to provide net services specifically tailored for each region,” said a statement given to UK consumer website CVG.
The statement reasons that region-locking its upcoming DS hardware upgrade is necessary as the new system will feature parental control features which will be dependent on each region’s unique age limit.
The DSi, however, will be able to play standard Nintendo software from any region, similar to the original Nintendo DS model and the Nintendo DS Lite. Users will also be able to browse the Internet on their DSi from anywhere in the world and exchange photos with friends in other countries."
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Snipper64 on October 08, 2008, 06:28:27 PM
Yes, that means games like the fable guatar hero tour will not work on this... Also, I personaly injoy the Internet option, hopefully it is betters then the wii's...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: stevey on October 08, 2008, 07:18:59 PM
ANother update of BIG infomation. Give your Kudos to wiinintendo.com for the info....
"DSi Restrictions Due to Missing GBA Slot Filed under: Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:35 pm
We’ve all been wondering about this, so here’s your answer. Below is a list of games that will be affected by the missing GBA slot on the DSi. Some of them (i.e. MP3 Player and Web Broswer), though, have been added to the new design.
Non-Playable games
Famicom Game Adapter Guitar Hero On Tour Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades Face Training / Otona no DS Kao Training Love and Berry Mein Vital Coach / My Health Coach Nintendo MP3 Player Slide Adventure: Mag Kid Tony Hawk’s Motion Opera Web Browser
Slight restrictions (most related to Rumble Pak)
Clubhouse Games Arkanoid DS Daigasso! Band Brothers Hote Dusk Magnetica / Actionloop Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time Metroid Prime Hunters Metroid Prime Pinball Pokémon Dash Pokémon Diamond/Platinum/Pearl Project Rub / Feel the Magic XX/XY Space Invaders Extreme Star Fox Command"
You forgot CASTLEVANIA: DS
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on October 08, 2008, 07:48:09 PM
"Nintendo DSi Software Will Be Region-Locked Filed under: Interview, News, Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:50 pm
Here is a bit of info for all you who are planning on importing a DSi. It seems that the DSi will not be region locked for basic functions (i.e. DS cartridge games, camera, and internet browser). However, things such as the DSWare services will be region locked.
“DSi is region locked because DSi embeds net communication functionality within itself, and we are intending to provide net services specifically tailored for each region,” said a statement given to UK consumer website CVG.
The statement reasons that region-locking its upcoming DS hardware upgrade is necessary as the new system will feature parental control features which will be dependent on each region’s unique age limit.
The DSi, however, will be able to play standard Nintendo software from any region, similar to the original Nintendo DS model and the Nintendo DS Lite. Users will also be able to browse the Internet on their DSi from anywhere in the world and exchange photos with friends in other countries."
So suppose I import the DSi, when the system finally gets released here in the states will my imported DSi be able to receive the new features?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 08, 2008, 07:58:22 PM
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The statement reasons that region-locking its upcoming DS hardware upgrade is necessary as the new system will feature parental control features which will be dependent on each region’s unique age limit.
Seriously? That sounds like a pretty overly-complicated way to feature parental control.
Everywhere I read about this there is discussion about unique DSi games kind of like GBC games that weren't playable on the original Gameboy. Is this just people talking out of their ass or has Nintendo actually said anything about this? There's a lot of confusion about it. Or has Nintendo just not confirmed or denied it and people are jumping to conclusions?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 08, 2008, 08:20:47 PM
Hmm the ESRB, PEGI and CERO ratings to influence region locking is kind of stupid and not true but the DSi's being region locked because each of them will go to a region's respective DS shop channel is probably the most likely reason.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Ceric on October 09, 2008, 11:03:52 AM
Boo they didn't make it more ergonomic.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 10, 2008, 01:31:33 AM
Everywhere I read about this there is discussion about unique DSi games kind of like GBC games that weren't playable on the original Gameboy. Is this just people talking out of their ass or has Nintendo actually said anything about this? There's a lot of confusion about it. Or has Nintendo just not confirmed or denied it and people are jumping to conclusions?
Nintendo hasn't said for sure, but we discussed this on RFN 118 (not online yet) and all agreed that any DSi-exclusive software will probably be download-only. This would prevent any confusion at the retail level.
On the same RFN episode, we all took a pretty big piss on the DSi, for a number of reasons. I may still get one, but the only thing I'm really interested in are the browser (if it's fast) and the downloadable games (if there's anything worthwhile... like a portable Virtual Console).
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 10, 2008, 06:47:56 AM
Surely they'll have original GB titles as downloadable? What amounts of memory do they take up?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: jakeOSX on October 10, 2008, 09:05:22 AM
i suspect the region locking for the shop has to do with royalties more than anything else. just like wii-ware, PSN, iTunes, etc etc, is still a regional store.
it makes too much sense for the internet to work the same everywhere.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: mac<censored> on October 11, 2008, 04:00:58 AM
My impression is that there's just a general sort of control-freakery in the industry, especially among "content providers"... NIntendo seems to have been sort of lukewarm about region control the past -- nintendo consoles tended to have either no region control or something almost trivially defeatable -- but they probably are trying their best to make software suppliers happy these days...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Adrock on October 11, 2008, 06:24:16 PM
Surely they'll have original GB titles as downloadable? What amounts of memory do they take up?
GB titles weren't very large. Something like Tetris was only like 256kb. Some of the more complicated games were larger, but probably not terribly larger.
It'd be nice if Nintendo used this opportunity to give us Mother 3. Just saying...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 12, 2008, 07:20:59 PM
they'd have to release Mother 1 and 2 first..
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Adrock on October 12, 2008, 10:16:40 PM
Would that really be so hard?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 13, 2008, 09:23:07 AM
We haven't seen them re-released (outside of japan) yet have we?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Adrock on October 13, 2008, 06:13:52 PM
So because they haven't, they won't? What? Pilotwings 64 hasn't been re-released yet. Shall we assume that game will never be re-released either? Or shall we just assume that, for some inexplicable reason, Nintendo has suddenly decided that they don't want to make money for doing next to nothing. VC games are almost entirely all pure profit. Mother 1 and 3 need to be localized, but Nintendo will spend nothing on marketing, pressing the game into a disc/cart, boxes, manuals, shipping etc.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: EasyCure on October 13, 2008, 06:45:09 PM
So because they haven't, they won't? What? Pilotwings 64 hasn't been re-released yet. Shall we assume that game will never be re-released either? Or shall we just assume that, for some inexplicable reason, Nintendo has suddenly decided that they don't want to make money for doing next to nothing. VC games are almost entirely all pure profit. Mother 1 and 3 need to be localized, but Nintendo will spend nothing on marketing, pressing the game into a disc/cart, boxes, manuals, shipping etc.
don't get so bent out of shape, i'm just speaking on behalf of a deprived earthbound fan. We all know nintendo loves money, especially when it comes from us buying games that are re-released. In the case of Mother 3, they'd milk the fanbase by releasing mother 1 and 2 first, building up hype for 3... then not releasing it. Then later on, re-releasing 1 and 2 and finally 3 for extra profits!
this would of made sense to do during GBA's reign since they DID re-release mother 1+2 for gba but they never brought it outside of japan. Along comes the DS and a few SNES sequels and re-makes and everyone gets excited thinking we'll get a mother 1+2+3 and what does nintendo do?!? Nothing! Flash forward to VC and you'd think we woulda had it by now, 2 years after wii's release... and still nothing. So many missed chances to print money and they haven't acted upon it. Thats all i'm saying.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Snipper64 on October 16, 2008, 06:50:08 PM
So because they haven't, they won't? What? Pilotwings 64 hasn't been re-released yet. Shall we assume that game will never be re-released either? Or shall we just assume that, for some inexplicable reason, Nintendo has suddenly decided that they don't want to make money for doing next to nothing. VC games are almost entirely all pure profit. Mother 1 and 3 need to be localized, but Nintendo will spend nothing on marketing, pressing the game into a disc/cart, boxes, manuals, shipping etc.
don't get so bent out of shape, i'm just speaking on behalf of a deprived earthbound fan. We all know nintendo loves money, especially when it comes from us buying games that are re-released. In the case of Mother 3, they'd milk the fanbase by releasing mother 1 and 2 first, building up hype for 3... then not releasing it. Then later on, re-releasing 1 and 2 and finally 3 for extra profits!
this would of made sense to do during GBA's reign since they DID re-release mother 1+2 for gba but they never brought it outside of japan. Along comes the DS and a few SNES sequels and re-makes and everyone gets excited thinking we'll get a mother 1+2+3 and what does nintendo do?!? Nothing! Flash forward to VC and you'd think we woulda had it by now, 2 years after wii's release... and still nothing. So many missed chances to print money and they haven't acted upon it. Thats all i'm saying.
Wow, the sad thing is that makes PERFECT sence that nitendo would do...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Snipper64 on October 28, 2008, 08:02:54 PM
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 28, 2008, 09:08:19 PM
Snipper64, your hotlinking images. You can't do that on NWR. Just sayin' :)
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 29, 2008, 02:31:17 PM
Yeah you can't do that Snipper.Get an account at Photobucket.What I do now is I open two windows one of my photobucket account and the other for the picture.I right click on the image then go to copy image location then I click that.I use Firefox so it might be different on other Browsers.Then I open up the window with my photobucket account then I go to the appropriate folder then I paste the URL into where it says use URL for upload or something like that.You can upload 3 at a time. Then I click upload.The upload will go quicker if you have the highest Flash on your CPU or laptop. The Flash is up to 10 now.9 should be fine.
You got here recently so we don't want you banned for something like this. If you have anymore questions send me a PM.:)
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Snipper64 on October 29, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
Ok, sorry about that, I am new at the whole forum thing, and I thought as long as you gave credit it was ok, I'll stop.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 30, 2008, 09:54:40 PM
Well guys big news DSi supports SDHD This is a Japanese manual scan (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/CONFUZZLED_MUNKIE/41124_uporg1755756_122_33lo.jpg)
FSE = Face Sensing Engine Click here if your interested to read about this tech (http://www.oki.com/jp/FSC/ics/en/) and some interesting things found on neogaf
Quote from: Stumpokapow from neogaf.com
Anyway, as you'll note the right-hand side of the booklet has an SDHC logo. So the DSi does SDHC. The copyright text notes that Nintendo has licenced WPA code ("WPA supplicant" hands key authentication for WPA purposes), so it's virtually guaranteed the DSi does WPA. No other particularly interesting outside tech licenced. Unfortunately the Opera licence note does not note any plugins like Flash being used by Opera, so it's not likely we'll know anything about that until release.
In addition, the AC Adapter is not the DS Lite's AC Adapter, or at least it doesn't appear to be. My AC Adapter for the the DSL is model number USG-002 and says "US/Japan", the DSi's AC Adapter is model WAP-002.
Wifi seems to be the same connection strength (although I don't know the DSL's dBm numbers offhand, the "suggested usage range" is the same). Does not do 802.11-draft n. 802.11b and 802.11g only.
The codename for the DSi was probably "Twilight" (model numbers are chosen based on codenames, DSi model number is TWL-001).
Unit weight: 214g Unit size: 74.9mm x 137mm x 18.9mm (how does this compare to the DS Lite)? Battery life (brightest to least bright): 3-4, 4-6, 6-9, 8-12, 9-14.
Screen resolutions confirmed to be the exact same (256x192), only 3.25". We already knew this, but it hammers out any possibility of people misunderstanding and assuming some software will use a higher resolution.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 31, 2008, 02:53:05 AM
The Face Sensing Engine is interesting.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Kairon on October 31, 2008, 05:30:11 AM
omg Face tracking is awesome.... maybe now we'll get something like that face training game stateside?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 31, 2008, 08:47:41 AM
With the DSi being SDHD compatible, I hope the Wii's storage solution also unlocks SDHD compatible cards because the Wii's SD card slot IS SDHD COMPLIANT, just Nintendo needs to unlock it hell we know that homebrew developers did unlock that functionality.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 31, 2008, 03:04:41 PM
WPA support is a pretty big deal. I haven't taken my DS online in a long time because of the hassle of either changing my router's security settings temporarily or using that overheating dongle. It was understandable why Nintendo left it out before, but costs must have dropped significantly since then. If this is true, it moves the chances of me buying a DSi up a notch.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 01, 2008, 12:25:35 AM
Some one took apart a DSi (http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2008/1101/nintendo.htm) DSi review (http://www.dannychoo.com/adp/eng/1604/DSi+Review.html) DSi shop channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-s6d5C8yiE) DSi launch (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081101/dsi.htm) DSi launch 2 (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1219444_1124.html) Pictures and applications of DSi (http://gonintendo.com/?p=61469)
Well it looks like the stores in Japan were using Preorders for the DSi. That would explain why there wasn't alot of lines last night.
Who plans on getting a DSi?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 04, 2008, 10:41:34 PM
DSi sells out in 4 days (http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=20686)
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: bosshogx on December 10, 2008, 04:56:19 PM
My DS has a bum L button and the touch panel has a lot of wear, mostly from The World Ends With You. Therefore, I'll definitely be picking one up down the road.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: jakeOSX on December 11, 2008, 07:12:51 AM
i plan on getting one, but may get a lite in the intermediate since i still have my mario kart ds phat (red WITH racing stickers)
and yeah, TWEWY does add some wear to the screen...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on December 11, 2008, 07:31:40 AM
I bought a new Silver DS Lite in September so depending on when the DSi drops will determine if I pick it up immediately or just wait for my Lite to die out- I find they take about a year. However if there are really cool games to download or some hidden detail I've overlooked about the system then I most likely get it immediately.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 25, 2008, 08:51:49 PM
DSiware was launched yesterday in Japan.Below are some impressions and videos of the games.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: soracloudtidus on January 13, 2009, 08:25:43 AM
I don't know if I should wait for this to come out or get a DS Lite right away. I want to play FF 1 and 2 and since the DSi doesn't have a GBA port I was kind of bummed about it. I know it has a TON of new features but I feel like playing some old GBA RPG games(and some DS RPGs too :) ). Also I'm kind of cheap so I don't know if I should hold for a DS Lite pricedrop...if that ever comes out that is.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 13, 2009, 07:48:44 PM
Rumor by ign:
January 13, 2009 - Multiple sources close to Nintendo tell IGN that the company is gearing up to debut the anticipated successor to its DS Lite handheld during the first half of this year in America. More specifically, the company has allegedly relayed to its partners that DSi will ship stateside in early April, most likely on April 4. Insiders assert that they have been told the system will retail for $179.99 when it launches domestically.
Nintendo's DSi handheld looks similar to its predecessor, but boasts a built-in camera, an SD Card slot, internal memory, an improved user interface and access to DSiWare, an ever-expanding list of downloadable DSi games and content available over Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection.
DSi released in Japan last November and presently retails in the homeland for 18,900 yen ($211 USD). More than a million gamers purchased the system through December 2008, according to overseas data tracking services. DS Lite, meanwhile, sells in Japan for 16,800 yen ($188), a cost difference of almost $25. If our sources are to be trusted, the price divide between the two systems in America would be much wider, as DS Lite currently retails for $129.99 stateside, approximately $50 cheaper than DSi's alleged U.S. price point.
In contrast to the Japanese market, where penetration of DS Lite has peaked, Nintendo of America may be planning to market DSi alongside the still-popular DS Lite, which would at least explain the different price points: one version for casuals and another for the core.
Nintendo of America said last October that it did not feel it necessary to release DSi in 2008 because its predecessor continued to sell at a phenomenal rate. Last year, NOA president Reggie Fils-Aime was also quoted as promising that DSi would not debut in America until sometime after the first quarter.
When contacted for comment, a Nintendo representative told us that the company does not comment on rumors and speculation. Although IGN verified today's story through three independent sources, we have filed the information as rumor until Nintendo makes an official announcement.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on January 13, 2009, 08:54:42 PM
I don't see why it couldn't happen that way, most interesting to me is the price. I was wondering if it would stay closer to the 200 mark, but 179 leaves me wary. I am wondering about how Nintendo will price the DSi in the states with the cost of the Wii so cheap could they really pull off having two systems for the same price? Would you pay a price higher than the Wii for a portable? Personally I wouldn't, but as hardware gets smaller the prices can go up. Anyway, rumor aside- I think it could happen like that, but maybe not so soon.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TofuFury on February 21, 2009, 02:51:49 AM
I don't know if this is the appropriate place for it, but what does everyone think of the DSiware that's out?
This is a preview for Art Style Nalaku, which looks a lot like a variation of Intelligent Cube for the Playstation. I never bought it, but I wish I did. I played the heck out of the demo I had for it. This game looks just as addicting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbjdwTh70H0
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 21, 2009, 04:57:13 AM
Since there isn't a topic about DSiware. This place is fine North Sea. It looks interesting. I haven't gotten any art style games.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 25, 2009, 10:47:45 AM
New colors in Japan will be Pink, Lime Green, Metallic Blue
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on February 25, 2009, 11:58:44 AM
are they calling that lime green? what the hell?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: decoyman on February 25, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
Well, they could've called it what it really is: Chartreuse.
But Lime Green is probably good enough.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on February 25, 2009, 03:45:56 PM
oh damn, must of been on the computer I was on earlier. It looked soooooooo yellow. Now it looks much more green.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Ghisy on February 25, 2009, 04:24:39 PM
I hate you Japan: I want the Metallic Blue DSi!!! Stupid region coding & firmware only in Japanese :'(
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 25, 2009, 06:03:16 PM
So if you have a DSi from America you won't be able to download DSi Ware games from other regions? If that is the case that sucks...because I was thinking about getting a DSi, and I am going to Korea.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Mop it up on February 26, 2009, 02:08:45 AM
Oh come on, that isn't pink! That's bright red!
<--- That's pink! Get it right Nintendo!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 26, 2009, 02:23:10 AM
So if you have a DSi from America you won't be able to download DSi Ware games from other regions? If that is the case that sucks...because I was thinking about getting a DSi, and I am going to Korea.
Don't go to Korea, it will be blown up soon. Meaning you can't play any region.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: vudu on February 26, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
It's magenta.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 26, 2009, 03:43:26 PM
Blowing up or not...I am going.
Don't worry guys and girls I will still be available, just a different hours of the day...but what will that do for my mafia playing?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 27, 2009, 05:40:07 AM
I hope you a safe return Spak.
Http://nintendodsi.com/iwataasks/vol1_page1.html
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 27, 2009, 06:46:53 AM
This is what the DSlite should have been. Imagine if this had been released in 2006 instead of the DSlite. Nintendo ended up being the handheld leader anyway, but if this had come out 3 years ago they probably would have knocked the PSP completely out of the market. A large part of the reason people buy PSPs is for the features that the DSi is offering, but didn't exist for the older DS (internet browsing, mp3 support, etc.)
I admit this is a great thing, but I feel that it is several years too late. 3 or even 2 years ago it would have made a huge difference, but now?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 27, 2009, 09:28:13 AM
Hasn't Nintendo knocked the PSP out of the market completely anyway?
Nintendo is good with their portable gaming system...because they know portables are about inexpensive games on the go, not expensive console-light gaming. Portable gaming needs to take a completely different direction. Hopefully, this iteration of the DS will be able to last another 3 years...but that is the only weakness with Nintendo's approach.
Nintendo tries to keep their portable gaming systems alive too long, and only make minor changes. It worked for the Gameboy brand, and the Gamboy Advance...but each new portable family is getting a shorter and shorter lifespan. I just hope Nintendo isn't trying to extend the life of the system too far.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 27, 2009, 04:04:49 PM
Hasn't Nintendo knocked the PSP out of the market completely anyway?
No. I just recently watched the movie "Journey to the Center of the Earth" with Brendan Fraser and the kid in it is playing a PSP, not a DS or a Gameboy. Now I bet if the DSi had come out in 2006 like it should he would have been playing a DSi.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: mac<censored> on February 27, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Hasn't Nintendo knocked the PSP out of the market completely anyway?
No. I just recently watched the movie "Journey to the Center of the Earth" with Brendan Fraser and the kid in it is playing a PSP, not a DS or a Gameboy. Now I bet if the DSi had come out in 2006 like it should he would have been playing a DSi.
... because, as we know, what products appear in movies has absolutely nothing to do with the large bags of money making their way between the product manufacturers and the movie studios...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 01, 2009, 06:28:32 PM
Just thought I let you guys know that there is a DSi video on the Nintendo Channel.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: rbtr on March 07, 2009, 03:04:50 AM
I really cannot wait for this. The blue is so great.
The DSiWare outing look perfect from what I've seen, lots of cheap puzzle games! I saw that they are releasing Pyoro, and Pyoro is my favorite. Plus that katamari puzzle game based off of that pac man puzzle game, stellar.
I think it's neat that I could feasibly sit in class and download a game because I'm bored. That's great!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 17, 2009, 05:09:07 PM
Yeah I am looking towards DSiware too. Alright people The DSi will be region locked in regards to DSi games but not DS games.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 17, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
Well that news Maxi may have prevented me from buying one.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 17, 2009, 05:41:44 PM
Well that news Maxi may have prevented me from buying one.
Sorry I just learned it today.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: vudu on March 17, 2009, 05:47:33 PM
I thought this had been known since the system launched in Japan? You're slipping, Maxi.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 17, 2009, 05:48:30 PM
I got an invite through Club Nintendo to try out a DSi this coming Sunday. You want me to try anything or confirm whatever for you? The invite mentioned bringing games to see how they play (differently?) on the system. Any suggestions about what titles to try??
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 17, 2009, 05:58:10 PM
I thought this had been known since the system launched in Japan? You're slipping, Maxi.
"I have you know I don't take kindly to being called a dodering old man". A day pass on mafia for whoever gets where that is from.
Fleece what DS games do you have?
Is that from.... Futurama....?
Behold the full list of The Fleece's DS games!
Puzzle League Korg DS Electroplankton Ninja Gaiden Dragon Quest IV Bangai-O Spirits Contra 4 Contact Mario Kart Animal Crossing Jam Sessions Metal Slug Jump Ultimate Stars Final Fantasy IV GTA Chinatown Wars Space Invaders Extreme
One thing I really want to check out is the Opera Browser, but I feel like will be one feature not available.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 17, 2009, 06:36:04 PM
No its from a game.Although that might not be the exact quote.It convays what this person worries about.
Hmm Electroplankton,Ninja Gaiden,Contact,Bangai-O Spirits, Jam Sessions,Jump Ultimate Stars,Space Invaders Extreme you should bring to test out and Mario Kart to test out Wi-Fi.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 17, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
Everything about the DSi but were afraid to ask (http://Http://vooks.net/modules.php?module=article&id=13873)
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 17, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
Invaluable. I'll be sure to pack the games and test as much of them all out as possible.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 18, 2009, 11:22:33 AM
I'm going to pick up an SD card to load music and pics to try out as well. Thanks to Maxi for the article because I know what size to get now!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 22, 2009, 08:13:46 PM
Okay I'm back from the DSi event. Pretty much there was about 10 people partitioned off to the side of the Gamestop and we all stood around playing with the DSi. I forgot my games so the only game I tried out was GTA and the touch screen feels cramped on the DS screen, but not on the DSi. It also has a better grip because of the matte it doesn't feel like the plastic DS shell. The speakers are very good we well, but still not great because of the sound in the store. The cameras are pretty nice, nicer than what I thought it would be. The controls are very intuitive, anyone can pick it up and get it going. I put an sd card into the game- funny I thought the slot cover was an actual hinged door, but it's actually a latch that you pull out. The system recognized my card immediately, but I access it was difficult and I couldn't figure out how to save to the card. The DSi is longer and slimmer than the DS, the buttons felt stiffer too. Overall it was a nice low key event, the DSi is pretty much what everyone's expecting. Oh and the online features were disabled so I couldn't try any of that out. I was asked over the phone to not take pictures, but I got one pic of me holding the DSi :) They gave me a card that will save me 100 bucks on the DSi if I trade in my old DS, but I preordered it at a different store. They printed out a pic of me that I took with the DSi and gave me a magnet frame with tinier magnets of DSi icons- finally I also got a DSi key holder the kind that goes around your neck. Not bad for a Sunday!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 08:26:42 PM
Thats great to hear Fleece.
For those that want to know if you get a DSi the DSi store will come with 1000 points.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 22, 2009, 10:42:51 PM
TheFleece I take it you don't have a DS Phat?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 22, 2009, 11:39:43 PM
I had one, but it was stolen a long time ago. My next purchase was the Lite. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 22, 2009, 11:55:17 PM
what's the difference between standard SD cards and SDHC one's?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 12:02:01 AM
Spinzilla as far as I can tell SDHC cards hold more info on the card than normal SD cards do.SDHC cards can hold 4 gig to 32 gig cards.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 23, 2009, 12:34:12 AM
what's the difference between standard SD cards and SDHC one's?
There's a different addressing scheme between the two standards while 32GB is the upper limit that exists in retail for SDHC, the theoretical limit of SDHC is 2TB (2048GB) however for SD cards bigger than 32GB they may just call it SDXC.
Edit: I guess the SD card association capped SDHC at 32GB. Officially SDXC is for cards that are: 64GB, 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, 1 TB and 2 TB. I've been reading that Panasonic will have 64GB SDXC cards ready this year and it's supposed to have a 5 year life span.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 23, 2009, 12:41:22 AM
There's a different addressing scheme between the two standards while 32GB is the upper limit, the theoretical limit of SDHC is 2TB (2048GB).
2TB really? so we won't be needing a new standard for a really really long time? I didn't know that. Hope they are cheap to incorporate by the time DS2 & Wii2 launch. not 2tb but 20-100gb chips for internal storage.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 23, 2009, 01:34:34 PM
I really hope nintendo allows bigger SD card usage on the wii in a firmware update It'd be nice to have just one BIG SD card that I can store all of my Wii and DSi stuff on.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 23, 2009, 01:36:44 PM
http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=12752
New rumor that would make me very happy.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 23, 2009, 01:51:06 PM
Christ, Spinnzilla you win The best Icon award in my book! Also yes that would please me very much since it seems like the obvious thing to do- it would be a shame if Nintendo do this.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: vudu on March 23, 2009, 02:26:38 PM
The DSi is longer and slimmer than the DS, the buttons felt stiffer too.
How'd the D-pad compare to both the original and the Lite? I never liked the D-pad on the Lite (it's one of the primary reasons I still use my original DS).
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 23, 2009, 04:34:10 PM
The DSi is longer and slimmer than the DS, the buttons felt stiffer too.
How'd the D-pad compare to both the original and the Lite? I never liked the D-pad on the Lite (it's one of the primary reasons I still use my original DS).
There wasn't anything surprisingly different or significant about the D Pad. Actually I be they made it a little bigger to match the proportions of the DSi, but it felt fine and I couldn't tell while playing. The buttons felt like pushing on Skittles- not round on the top, but they felt like they had the same thickness.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on March 23, 2009, 06:39:37 PM
I just remembered that the shoulder buttons on the DSi are strong- It felt like I wasn't actually pressing them- they barely moved, but they worked just as they should. I guess it felt more solid unlike how the shoulder buttons on the DS feel sort of separate from the body and press inward on the corners.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 24, 2009, 04:51:33 PM
http://ds.kombo.com/article.php?artid=7007
Okay, now the GB/GBA download thing has apparently been confirmed for Japan, but not offically NA.
and it won't run strait off the SD. Bummer, but not a big one though.
Still don't know the reliability of the site...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 04:59:40 PM
Okay, now the GB/GBA download thing has apparently been confirmed for Japan, but not offically NA.
and it won't run strait off the SD. Bummer, but not a big one though.
Still don't know the reliability of the site...
If you read the edited notes Nintendo told them to clarify that it is only announced for Japan right now. I'll bet that was going to be some of NoA's thunder for GDC and E3 and this undercut their planned announcement. A lot of sights are reporting similar things so the cats out of the bag.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 25, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47092.html A bit of footage showing the DSi and some DSi games and Rhythm Heaven.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Stratos on March 25, 2009, 04:39:11 PM
That video made me want a DSi...and Rythm Heaven.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 27, 2009, 11:19:33 AM
I don't really trust word of mouth rumors, but a Gamestop manager, who's pretty well researched told me two interesting things today. Someone let me know if they've heard anything like this.
First of all: Nintendo will begin making their own large capaticy SD cards (hopefully cheaper ;P)
Second: Some DSiware games will be playable on the wii via SD card, if the interface is similar.
The first seems pretty much a give in but the second...I have no idea.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 30, 2009, 12:28:13 AM
So after getting my hands on the new DSi I must say what a difference little changes make.
1)The Cameras for picture taking and such are pretty useless, and the little mini editing you can do is not interesting enough to play with. I asked to see if it can at least display images from other cameras, and it couldn't. It may be a problem with Folders I am not sure, but it wasn't that nice honestly.
2)The Music Players was pretty nice. Fold up the system and it will play in your pocket. The Visualizer are fun specially the Mario one. Which allows you to jump and collect coins as Mario. This could have been made better by allowing Mario go get big and such...but oh well.
I am curious if you can store your music into separate folders and it find them ok. If so then this would be a pretty great music player honestly. I also didn't see if it can select and play songs randomly, but I don't see why it couldn't.
The system is easier to hold, but will probably still cause crammed fingers in games like Mario Kart...if you play long sessions, but I feel it is much more comfortable for larger hands. The buttons and D-PAD feel much better. Very sturdy and just overall better feel than the DS. The D-Pad felt great as well.
The touch screen didn't feel any different. The larger size does make it easier to play games, but the feel of the stylus and interact with the screen felt the same. Which is good but not great.
Overall, I felt that it is a very worthy improvement over the DS. Small things that really add up for the system, makes this update just as substantial as the DS lite upgrade. I really think this has a huge potential.
Now minor things that made me sad.
1)The power adapter isn't global, so you need to keep that in mind. It is only 120V. 2)I asked about downloading from the American DSi store in other countries and the representative didn't know the answer and just guessed yet.
Hmmm...Not really what I wanted to here. I want to know Yes or No definitive not just a guess.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 30, 2009, 02:01:56 AM
2)I asked about downloading from the American DSi store in other countries and the representative didn't know the answer and just guessed yet.
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed several months ago that DSiWare stuff is region locked. So North American DSi's will only be able to download from the North American store, Japanese DSi's from the DSi store,etc.
If you mean your physical location, I see no problem. I know several people online who I am friends with live in the US and have a Japanese Wii, they have no problem downloading from the Japanese Wii Shop Channel.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 30, 2009, 09:21:42 AM
Yes I knew it was region locked, you just answered my questions about the Japanese Wii store, so if it is the same then I shouldn't have a problem.
Also, I know what theFleece is talking about with the shoulder buttons. All the buttons feel stiffer, on the new DSi, even the D-PAD. It feels like there is less movement to press the buttons, it feels really nice, but it does take getting used to. It felt like the buttons were "sunk" into the shell of the DSi more. Obviously, they aren't because you still have the raised buttons and D-Pad, but that is what it felt like.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: vudu on March 30, 2009, 02:03:54 PM
Spak, when you say the buttons and the D-pad feel better are you comparing it to the original DS or the DS Lite? Part of the reason I never bought a Lite was because I didn't really like the D-Pad change they made. I like the "clickiness" of the original model.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 30, 2009, 02:24:11 PM
I don't remember the original DS D-Pad. But this feels different from the DS lite.
I believe it is probably going the wrong direction for you. It feels less Clicky than the DS lite, it just feels all the buttons do not need to be pushed as far down, and as such they are not as "springy."
Honestly, I thought the buttons felt better, but I didn't get a chance to play a heavy button intense game on the system. I wish I did, because I could give you better information, but I did not.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: vudu on March 30, 2009, 02:33:19 PM
I guess I'm going to wait until I see a DSi in the wild before I buy one. The original DS's buttons were "clicky" and felt great. The DS Lite's buttons were "mushy" and I didn't like them very much (although, to be fair I've only tried a DSL a few times for only a couple minutes each time).
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Rhoq on March 30, 2009, 03:51:17 PM
Man, I feel like such a Nintenwhore. I gave in and pre-ordered a DSi.
I had resisted the charms of DS Lite, but was ready to give in a few months back. Just when I had decided to go for the black & red DSL, Nintendo made the "Spring 2009" DSi announcement and I decided that if I had waited this long to replace my perfectly fine launch day DS with it's younger, way more attractive replacement, then I could wait a few more months for the DSi. LOL
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 30, 2009, 04:22:31 PM
Rhoq: You made the right choice. Between the DSi and DS lite there is no comparison. Even if you have several Game Boy Advance games, I say the DSi is just a better place to be.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 30, 2009, 04:30:15 PM
1)I understand the DSi Ware downloads are region locked...
You should be able to access the DSi Ware store for the Americas from Korea, as this is an online program. Please note that the credit card used to purchase Nintendo Points, needs to match the region you are trying to get points from, not the region you are living in. In this case, a U.S. credit card would be required to purchase U.S. Nintendo Points for your DSi.
2)I notice the power adapter for the American DSi is only compatible with 120V...
If you are going to be in South Korea for a long period of time, you may want to get a South Korean version of the DSi AC Adapter. As long as it's the official adapter made by Nintendo for use with the systems in South Korea, it will work with your American DSi. Please note that we don't have release date information for outside the America's, so we don't know what the release date is for the DSi in South Korea. You would likely need to wait until you are in South Korea to find this adapter to purchase. Your other option would be a step-up or step-down transformer, which are available at most electronics or travel stores.
Nice answers from anyone traveling abroad with a Nintendo DSi. It isn't really an exclusive for NWR boards, but I think it is nice information.
Another answer from the tech forums at Nintendo for the first question...alittle more detail.
Hello,
Just like the Wii Shop, the region is tied to where your system was designed to be used. So for example, if you purchased a North American Wii, and you took it to Europe, it would still access the North American Wii Shop and only accept North American currency.
As you might imagine, this can be a problem if someone accidentally (or perhaps intentionally) purchases a system from another country, brings it back home, and then tries to purchase content online. Whoops.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Rhoq on March 31, 2009, 08:52:34 AM
Rhoq: You made the right choice. Between the DSi and DS lite there is no comparison. Even if you have several Game Boy Advance games, I say the DSi is just a better place to be.
I got rid of the few GBA games I had a while ago. I had bought them for the GameCube (GB Player), but I got rid of it when I got my Wii on launch day. I wasn't playing them enough on the DS to warrant holding onto them.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Stratos on March 31, 2009, 09:22:37 PM
Since my DS Lite has a chunk broken out of the lower right side that makes it hurt to play sometimes I may get a DSi at some point this year. I have a GBA SP that is nice for playing all of my old games. Plus I am in mad love with the black DS. My friend has a black DS Lite and I think it looks great.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 01, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
I may have an excuse to get a DSi now. This morning I was unusually sleepy, and when I attempted to gently toss my DS Lite onto my bed, it slipped from my hand, bounced off the floor, opened up and splatted onto my dresser face first like a cartoon coyote, somehow ejecting the game card hard enough for it to touch the ceiling. I didn't see any obvious damage, but I didn't have time to be thorough.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on April 01, 2009, 12:22:51 PM
I saw Japanese tourists taking pictures of themselves in Central Park with a DSi. Sunday can't come fast enough for me :]
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: rbtr on April 01, 2009, 01:12:27 PM
I may have an excuse to get a DSi now. This morning I was unusually sleepy, and when I attempted to gently toss my DS Lite onto my bed, it slipped from my hand, bounced off the floor, opened up and splatted onto my dresser face first like a cartoon coyote, somehow ejecting the game card hard enough for it to touch the ceiling. I didn't see any obvious damage, but I didn't have time to be thorough.
That sounds epic. Low ceilings?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: decoyman on April 01, 2009, 01:27:18 PM
I may have an excuse to get a DSi now. This morning I was unusually sleepy, and when I attempted to gently toss my DS Lite onto my bed, it slipped from my hand, bounced off the floor, opened up and splatted onto my dresser face first like a cartoon coyote, somehow ejecting the game card hard enough for it to touch the ceiling. I didn't see any obvious damage, but I didn't have time to be thorough.
It's a Nintendo console. Chances are, the damage is purely cosmetic (if there's any damage at all). ;)
I am being only slightly silly here, I wouldn't be surprised if I was right...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 01, 2009, 02:07:46 PM
The same thing occurred to me, but I do want a DSi. :)
If at first you don't succeed, try, try again ... keep throwing the system in the general direction of your bed until you eventually have no choice but to upgrade.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: rbtr on April 02, 2009, 02:17:20 AM
My best buy got it's shipment of DSi's! :D
Initial impressions of the box? It seems smaller, and has a nice surface texture, and it is overall, much heavier. The blue is everything you could have hoped for in a blue. It also sports a sticker advertising the free DS points!
I wonder what Nintendo is going to launch the DSi ware service with? Pyoro I hope...
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 02, 2009, 03:09:59 AM
Initial impressions of the box? It seems smaller, and has a nice surface texture, and it is overall, much heavier. The blue is everything you could have hoped for in a blue. It also sports a sticker advertising the free DS points!
I wonder what Nintendo is going to launch the DSi ware service with? Pyoro I hope...
I take it you guys are going to sell it on Sunday? About how many did you get in?
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 02, 2009, 10:04:58 AM
Best Buy won't break Street Date. I am curious how many you have though, and how big your city is.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: rbtr on April 02, 2009, 02:03:35 PM
We are NOT breaking street date!
My city is very large, it is the heart of the mid-south. We received 36 of each color so 72 in total, the other store in town is only getting 12-15 of each, and the rest of the district is getting about the same 12-20 of each. I think the ad minimum is 12, but It could be lower, I haven't seen the ad yet. A co-worker looked up the next projected delivery date and it was sometime in June, so it might be slim pickings for awhile.
I'm extremely excited for whatever reason. I'm not expecting to sell out on day 1 (although you better believe that I'll be there early that day!) but there's been a recent influx of commercials, so I imagine we'll be out by the end of the week. I am also guessing that the black will sell out quicker that the blue. How fast did the DS lite sell on day one? It'll probably be about the same I imagine...
We also got a big box full of rhythm heaven!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 02, 2009, 03:44:18 PM
I really expect it to sell out on Day 1. It looks like there are shortage problems, not to mention the prices are already starting to rise on eBay.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: rbtr on April 02, 2009, 04:38:17 PM
I'm still not convinced, but I wouldn't bet either way. I've only had 2 or so customers outright ask about it, and the internet buzz seems pretty lukewarm to me, with what seems to be a lot of people holding on to their DS lites. And many people feel that they don't need all the extra features, so its not like the people who walk in unknowing are going to side with the DSi.
Like I said though, I'm still showing up to my bestbuy early, because I am really pumped up for this thing!
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Stratos on April 02, 2009, 04:40:53 PM
GP, eBay always hikes prices of new systems. Scalpers are always trying to force an extra buck out of consumers.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: rbtr on April 02, 2009, 04:47:41 PM
They might be playing in on the "Wii Shortage" fear. If my best buy is any indication that shortage is done...
Does anybody know the initial numbers from the DS lite? Probably the best way to guess at this.
Edit: The DSiware launch games have been announced, Warioware: Snapped, Bird and Beans (PYORO!), and Art style Aquia. No pricing, but IGN (Where I got the news) suspects the same as Japan, which would put Warioware and Aquia at 500, and pyoro at 200. The opera browser is also planned for release, and should be free.
This isn't happening on Sunday though, I'd guess Monday.
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: Mop it up on April 02, 2009, 06:28:41 PM
Does anybody know the initial numbers from the DS lite? Probably the best way to guess at this.
All I can find is this from Wikipedia:
"On June 13, 2006, Nintendo announced that 136,500 units were sold in two days since the DS Lite went on sale in North America, and seemed to be on pace to the 500,000 sold by the original Nintendo DS in its first ten days.[61] Shortly after its launch, the DS Lite was sold out at major US retailers; however, it did not have the same ongoing shortages in the US as it did in Japan through 2006 and 2007."
Title: Re: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)
Post by: TheFleece on April 02, 2009, 06:48:17 PM
The Nintendo World Store in NY is having a midnight release for the DSi and Rhythm Heaven. I'll be there for sure to get the system- I'm pretty interested in Rhythm Heaven too so I might get it. If I snag anything groovy I'll be sure to share. I sort of can't believe that there is another Nintendo handheld coming out, the DS is such a great system that it's crazy to think it can lean in a new direction and offer something better. I'm a portable gamer at heart and I'm pretty excited and happy about this :)
