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Title: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NWR_Neal on June 02, 2008, 06:09:22 AM
This is why it pays to read the manual: an advertisement on the back of the LEGO Indiana Jones instruction booklet reveals Star Wars: The Clone Wars.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=16067

 The Wii and DS are getting an exclusive Star Wars title this fall according to an advertisement on the back of the LEGO Indiana Jones instruction booklet. The game, entitled Star Wars: The Clone Wars, looks to be modeled after the upcoming animated movie and TV series that takes place in between Episodes II and III. In addition to featuring mainstay Star Wars characters like Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi, the movie and TV series will explore the minutia of the Clone Wars saga with new characters like the young Jedi Ahsoka, who Anakin is responsible for training as his padawan learner.    


The Star Wars: The Clone Wars movie itself is scheduled for an August release, and the advertisement says that the game is coming this fall. This would put the game's release close to another Star Wars game headed to both the Wii and DS: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed is slated to release in September.

Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2008, 01:49:00 PM
Tartakovsky's Clone Wars > any Lucas Clone thing Wars Stars
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on June 02, 2008, 04:38:41 PM
A little birdie told me that this may be a Smash Bros. clone.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 02, 2008, 04:42:58 PM
Hmmmmm thats kinda cool. I want a DS smash bros that has nothing to do with Naruto.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 02, 2008, 04:52:14 PM
A little birdie told me that this may be a Smash Bros. clone.

That could be really great.  Especially if Yoda's final smash involves smashing spaceships into the ground.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 02, 2008, 04:56:19 PM
If they make it good (big if) a Star Wars Smash Bros. clone (ha ha, Smash Bros. Clone Wars) could be really good on the DS, but unless the Wii version included lag-free online play I don't see me getting it.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: SixthAngel on June 02, 2008, 10:39:28 PM
Tartakovsky's Clone Wars > any Lucas Clone thing Wars Stars

Agreed.  It makes me far more hopeful of this game.  It won't be stuck in the movie's plot and every character becomes 100% more awesome then in the new movies.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2008, 11:09:33 PM
Yoda, The emporer, The Fett, and Vader better be the top tier. Maybe Mace. No items, Ban the Hoth level from tournament play.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: TheFleece on June 02, 2008, 11:58:10 PM
Tartakovsky's Clone Wars > any Lucas Clone thing Wars Stars
A little birdie told me that this may be a Smash Bros. clone.
Hmmmmm thats kinda cool. I want a DS smash bros that has nothing to do with Naruto.
YES YES and YES!!!
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: KDR_11k on June 03, 2008, 02:22:31 AM
I'm not sure that's a good thing, Smash Bros can do a lot of stuff because it's not entirely serious. Star Wars is usually very serious (IOW I don't expect Ewoks to be usable as melee weapons).
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 03, 2008, 11:42:56 AM
I'm not sure that's a good thing, Smash Bros can do a lot of stuff because it's not entirely serious. Star Wars is usually very serious (IOW I don't expect Ewoks to be usable as melee weapons).

You say that like you haven't seen Clone Wars.  It's full of insanely over the top action.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Arbok on June 03, 2008, 12:47:49 PM
So it's Clone Wars... does that mean no Boba Fett, no Emperor, no Chewbacca, no... Vader?

Seems like most of the really cool characters in the series don't show up until at least Revenge of the Sith, which takes place after this.

I'm not sure that's a good thing, Smash Bros can do a lot of stuff because it's not entirely serious. Star Wars is usually very serious (IOW I don't expect Ewoks to be usable as melee weapons).

Hell, I'd love to be an Ewok... :P
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 03, 2008, 01:07:06 PM
Chewbacca could show up.  Boba Fett's a kid and Jango's dead, but an ARC trooper might fill the void (They're clone commandos that lack the conditioning and limitations that make most of the clone troopers controllable; basically one-man armies).  There's no reason the Emperor couldn't be playable, he'd just lack that title.  This setting also gets us the Clone Wars version of General Grievous, which is much better than the movie version, and the Clone Wars version of Count Dooku, who can beat the Clone Wars version of Grievous without breaking a sweat.

Of course, it's just a game, so I wouldn't have any more problem with characters who shouldn't be alive at the time being playable than I do with the characters in Smash Bros.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Shecky on June 21, 2008, 07:23:14 PM
this looks nothing like a Brawl clone

Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35358.html)

looks more like a standard fighter, with lightsabers.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Enner on June 23, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Grievous needs more lightsabers. More I say!
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: ShyGuy on June 23, 2008, 02:59:45 AM
I heard that Grevious was originally intentioned to be Darth Maul's brain in a robotic body.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 23, 2008, 04:28:06 AM
Wow, how very un-Lucas to say "No, that's not a good idea, we can do better.". I'd have taken Grievous with Maul's brain if it had meant that he rethought Jar Jar.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: KDR_11k on June 23, 2008, 10:36:44 AM
Grievous with Maul's brain would make more sense, how a mere mortal manages to kill that many Jedi and effectively use their lightsabers is beyond me.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Kairon on June 23, 2008, 03:19:50 PM
Grievous with Maul's brain would make more sense, how a mere mortal manages to kill that many Jedi and effectively use their lightsabers is beyond me.

1. Jedi get killed all the time. They're very much mortal, especially the ones who aren't awesome
2. Grievous was trained by Count Dooku.
3. Grievous has FOUR ARMS!!! That means 4 LIGHTSABERS!
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 24, 2008, 06:20:16 PM
I think the in-universe explanation is that the art of lightsaber-on-lightsaber combat has been effectively lost over the hundreds (thousands?) of years since the Sith were last a credible threat, so hardly any Jedi know how to fight someone else with a lightsaber.  Dooku was the last great master of such combat, and he trained Grievous.  That and having four arms made Grievous more than a match for all but the most powerful Jedi, who could call on the Force to help even the odds.  Obi-wan's highly defensive technique was theoretically the best counter possible.

Nerd out.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: ShyGuy on June 24, 2008, 06:49:00 PM
Wait, if the lightsaber combat skills had been lost, how are Yoda, Mace, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon able to kick butt?
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 24, 2008, 07:00:44 PM
Not to mention Luke whose only lightsaber training was how to block blaster shots and yet still managed to be a match for Vader.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: animecyberrat on June 24, 2008, 07:08:40 PM
Exactly, it was explained that the Jedi didn't need raining to use a Lightsaber, they had the force which they could use to "sense" their enemies reactions. With Grievous they could not because they can't sense droids and his "human" side was long lost to his techno side so it is likely that he didn't "exist" as far as the force is concerned. Anyways that was how it was explained in one of the books I read. Not Grievous himself but about the Jedi. Plus he had 4 arms, and Yoda was a master, but Obi and Ani both had trouble with Dooku so he must have been out of their league so if he trained Grievous he would have an advantage over the lesser Jedi.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on June 25, 2008, 01:35:11 AM
Who decided that the prequel universe was so darn interesting that it deserved this much exploration?  Could it be the same guy that thought it was a good idea to make the entire prequel story arc hinge on a dispute over the over-taxation of specific trade routes?
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Kairon on June 25, 2008, 04:27:57 AM
the entire prequel story arc hinge on a dispute over the over-taxation of specific trade routes?

Taxes have HUGE effects. Just look at the Revolutionary War...
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: KDR_11k on June 25, 2008, 08:13:17 AM
Wouldn't that make Grievous subject to force powers though? I mean, any force user could just pick him up and slam him in a wall or over a cliff... Also without the force those things won't work as blaster defenses so shouldn't it be possible to finish him with a simple blaster?

Then again that's the prequels we're talking about here...
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 25, 2008, 12:46:27 PM
Wait, if the lightsaber combat skills had been lost, how are Yoda, Mace, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon able to kick butt?

Since you used Qui-Gon as an example, I assume you misunderstood me.  They no longer bothered to train to fight other people who also had lightsabers because it was assumed that everyone with a lightsaber would be on the same side.  Qui-Gon was killed by Darth Maul pretty easily once the fight was one on one.  Obi-wan only killed Darth Maul because the latter dropped his guard.  Obi-Wan started developing his defensive style because of that battle, and he taught it to Anakin and Luke.  Yoda spent over 800 years developing his skills with the Force and a lightsaber.  Mace took two other Jedi Masters with him to face Palpatine, and they were cut down in seconds.

Wouldn't that make Grievous subject to force powers though? I mean, any force user could just pick him up and slam him in a wall or over a cliff... Also without the force those things won't work as blaster defenses so shouldn't it be possible to finish him with a simple blaster?

Both of those things happened.  Mace Windu crushed his torso at the end of the cartoon series, giving him that wheezing cough, and Obi-Wan was finally forced to kill him with a blaster.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 25, 2008, 04:47:41 PM
"Who decided that the prequel universe was so darn interesting that it deserved this much exploration?"

YEAH, WHAT THE HELL
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Crimm on June 25, 2008, 09:30:45 PM
I think the Clone Wars is the most interesting part of the prequel universe, which is why it sucked that the movies devoted so little energy to them.  There's a lot of moving parts in that conflict, may of which are behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 25, 2008, 10:39:41 PM
I'd say the only real interesting parts are behind the scenes because I find the battles a lot less interesting due to the fact that it's not a real war, it's just a show put on by Palpatine, it doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Crimm on June 25, 2008, 11:11:01 PM
These two games focus on that element of the Clone Wars.  I wrote a preview for the DS game too; it should be out by tomorrow.  It's about another facet of the back-end war.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on June 26, 2008, 01:22:11 AM
the entire prequel story arc hinge on a dispute over the over-taxation of specific trade routes?

Taxes have HUGE effects. Just look at the Revolutionary War...

Very true, but Lucas could have found something more interesting for the Trade Federation to fight over.  I mean, this is swords 'n sorcery space opera.  Maybe they could have been trying to strip mine Naboo for a seemingly harmless mineral that turned out to have force-nullifying properties, so they could impose their will on the Republic without having to fear the Jedi.  Or something.  I dunno!
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Kairon on June 26, 2008, 01:28:14 AM
Very true, but Lucas could have found something more interesting for the Trade Federation to fight over.  I mean, this is swords 'n sorcery space opera.  Maybe they could have been trying to strip mine Naboo for a seemingly harmless mineral that turned out to have force-nullifying properties, so they could impose their will on the Republic without having to fear the Jedi.  Or something.  I dunno!

What's more interesting than money?

Besides, they nullify the force with ysalamiri much later on in the books.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Crimm on June 26, 2008, 01:28:35 AM
They couldn't fully pacify a security detail and some frog people who throw glowing spheres.  I don't think they'd have much of a shot at galactic conquest.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Kairon on June 26, 2008, 01:39:01 AM
frog people who throw glowing spheres

I think you'll find that no one knows exactly how "glowing sphere" technology specifically works, it remains a mystery even in the New Republic.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on June 26, 2008, 01:54:51 AM
Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.  Some folks might think that trade overregulation is interesting, but I guess I expected something a bit more swashbuckling from Star Wars.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 26, 2008, 02:02:39 AM
They kidnapped the princess and will murder her in an attempt to frame Gilder and incite a war?
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: KDR_11k on June 26, 2008, 04:11:49 AM
Thinking about it, the "robots don't show up for the force" thing doesn't make sense since Luke Skywalker trains his force sense with a training droid.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Kairon on June 26, 2008, 04:14:15 AM
And if robots didn't show up in the force, then the jedi would've gotten slaughtered by the trade federation.

Just face it, Grievous is a little bad-ass.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: ShyGuy on June 26, 2008, 09:52:16 AM
Grevious is Maul.... Maul is Grevious

Einhorn is Finkle, Finkle is Einhorn!
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 26, 2008, 11:16:26 AM
Thinking about it, the "robots don't show up for the force" thing doesn't make sense since Luke Skywalker trains his force sense with a training droid.

Droids just don't show up in the Force in the same way living things do.  That doesn't mean a Jedi can't sense danger when a droid attacks him.  That danger sense doesn't come from reading the intentions of living things, although that can help.

I'm not sure where the idea that the Force can't be directly used on living people came from.  Vader demonstrates that it can in the original movie.

Who decided that the prequel universe was so darn interesting that it deserved this much exploration?  Could it be the same guy that thought it was a good idea to make the entire prequel story arc hinge on a dispute over the over-taxation of specific trade routes?

That tax thing was just part of the smoke and mirrors covering Palpatine's plot.  He engineered the whole Naboo conflict to get Chancellor Valorum kicked out of office and himself appointed Chancellor.
Title: Re: Exclusive Star Wars Game Revealed for Wii and DS
Post by: Kairon on June 26, 2008, 03:30:18 PM
Yeah, behind the taxes were the vile machinations of a SITH LORD! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!