It's a petition to the Diet, not some online petiton.
LOL I really doubt anything will come of this.
But I'll quit being a sour puss and let ya have your fun.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Maverick on May 22, 2008, 04:02:05 PM
You better delete this before Bill gets here.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 04:04:19 PM
I think he is already on a plane to Japan to put a stop to this.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 22, 2008, 05:05:10 PM
So this is one of those "videogames corrupt the minds of kids" things again...Oh brother..
The one aspect of this that really makes me wonder is just where they could draw the line on what an "underage character" is...Does that mean in terms of looks? That's impossible, considering, particularly in the Asian race, you can have a 20+ year old woman who looks underage...On the other hand, that's exactly what many games use as an escape: a lolita-esque character that is actually older than she looks...
So to really regulate this you'd need a committee that would "judge" how old a character in a game looks, and personally, that's pretty retarded. And quite frankly, I don't think this will change anything in terms of the crime rate...And this is where we just fall back onto the parenting issue again...Parents, teach your kids what is right and what is wrong, and teach "potential victims" the damn basic guidelines of safety...
Nyan~
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 22, 2008, 05:13:23 PM
GOVERNMENT FIXES EVERYTHING
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: stevey on May 22, 2008, 05:42:17 PM
Do they really need more of "these" people in jail? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6912420094506915267&hl=en)
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Crimm on May 22, 2008, 05:46:16 PM
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 22, 2008, 09:16:51 PM
No context and everyone already knows that Smoke is this forum's trademark shotacon... =)
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 09:20:08 PM
what if I said I agree with this...
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 22, 2008, 09:23:44 PM
I don't know the right answer to things like this.
They have examples of males giving up child porn for shotacon and lolicon, which is an obvious plus. Making it illegal is tough because it couldn't regulated without more intervention into the internet.
I'm not interested fortunately, so it really doesn't effect me anyway.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: RABicle on May 22, 2008, 09:39:20 PM
Did you guys actually read the end of the article? All they were calling for is
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We wish to see enacted laws restricting the manufacture and sale of bishojo adult anime magazines, and bishojo adult anime simulation games.
So you can still have your 14 years old Asuka Langley, the sexual deviant. You can still have Miho or whatever the fucked up character is that ruins every episode of The Melancholy of Haruhi. You just can't put KIDS IN PORN. And I think we can all agree that that is a good thing.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 22, 2008, 09:43:29 PM
Internet porn lowered rape. (http://www.bloggernews.net/11366)
That could tie around to this issue.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 09:52:15 PM
since this is borderline political I will try and keep my comments as fair and balanced as I can, but I do not agree with that at all. Porn only feeds the hunger and it may satisfy some people, but it puts thoughts into others heads that they might otherwise not have had and that is not a good thing.
Now in response to the loli stuff, um does Sailor Moon fall under this category cuz I am pro Sailor Moon...
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 22, 2008, 09:56:23 PM
since this is borderline political I will try and keep my comments as fair and balanced as I can, but I do not agree with that at all. Porn only feeds the hunger and it may satisfy some people, but it puts thoughts into others heads that they might otherwise not have had and that is not a good thing.
The essentially PROVED that was the case in that study though.
Another interesting piece is form Wikipedia:
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Laws have been enacted to criminalize "obscene images of children, no matter how they are made," for inciting abuse.[35] An argument is that obscene fictional images portray children as sex objects, thereby contributing to child sexual abuse. This argument has been disputed by the claim that there is no scientific basis for that connection,[36] and that restricting sexual expression in drawings or animated games and videos might actually increase the rate of sexual crime by eliminating a harmless outlet for desires that could motivate crime.[9] This is exemplified in a case involving a man, from Virginia who, while arrested after viewing lolicon at a public library, asserted that he had quit collecting real child pornography and switched to lolicon.[37]
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Smoke39 on May 22, 2008, 09:59:23 PM
it puts thoughts into others heads that they might otherwise not have had and that is not a good thing.
Stupid people will come up with stupid ideas regardless of whether they get inspiration from media or not.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 10:01:32 PM
I don't buy into those studies though, they can just as easily be rigged. Take the studies that link video game violence to real-world violence, who here buys those? Hey I admit I was a violent person, but long before I ever experienced a violent video game. So I don't think there is much of a link there.
I do think that there can be a link though from one to another, based mostly on my own experience and also taking into consideration that studies like these you have to question how honest the participants really were.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: UncleBob on May 22, 2008, 10:02:25 PM
Since when is Bill half of the funhouse?
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 22, 2008, 10:04:35 PM
alright dude, but it is Stanford.
The interesting thing about the violent video games thing was the whole WWII problem, people would shoot people because they were uncomfortable. However, if they put fake pictures for them to practice shooting at, it dramatically increased how often marines would shoot.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 10:11:16 PM
Well for me it is a cross between my political views, my personal experience and religious upbringing, all of which conflict with one another.
Let me explain myself, I am against the "porn" and the depiction of children in poses and media that could be arousing to adult men. I am not for regulating internet porn or even these video games in particular, on the basis that one man's sin is another mans pleasure. However I feel that in the interest of protecting children, pedophiles and child abuse being major issues and seam to be increasing in magnitude all the time, I am all for regulating certain aspects of any media which would or could lead to the harming of innocent children.
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Since when is Bill half of the funhouse?
Since as far back as I have been here.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 22, 2008, 10:15:14 PM
Thats fine with me, just keep it out of federal law and I can shake hands on it.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 22, 2008, 10:16:43 PM
I have no idea what you are even arguing, rat...It's like you are jumping back and forth from either side of the fence...
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 22, 2008, 10:18:26 PM
rat has a fence fetish
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 10:19:41 PM
Like I said I have conflicting thoughts on this type of subject, for deeper reasons than I will say here, I am all for legislation banning anything that would harm a child, but I am also against the government interfering with ones right to do whatever they want in private, as long as it doesn't affect someone else. Don't worry Bill, I am just as confused as you.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 10:20:11 PM
Like I said I have conflicting thoughts on this type of subject, for deeper reasons than I will say here, I am all for legislation banning anything that would harm a child, but I am also against the government interfering with ones right to do whatever they want in private, as long as it doesn't affect someone else. Don't worry Bill, I am just as confused as you.
LOL, when I read that last part I LOL hard. Because as I read that sentence I understood it as a jab at Bill's sexual preference! I know thats not what you meant, but too funny.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Crimm on May 22, 2008, 10:25:10 PM
LOL, when I read that last part I LOL hard. Because as I read that sentence I understood it as a jab at Bill's sexual preference! I know thats not what you meant, but too funny.
Are you implying I only have one? =)
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 10:38:08 PM
I see.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 22, 2008, 10:38:28 PM
trisexual
TRY ANYTHING
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 10:45:37 PM
that's it I am leaving this thread before I end up starting another confession thread...don't look at me like that.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Smoke39 on May 22, 2008, 10:54:46 PM
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 23, 2008, 12:05:11 AM
I completely agree with the petition. It's fucking disgusting actually, cartoons or not. I can't imagine anyone with a child thinking any differently, and yes, I know this is about cartoons essentially, and it's somewhat of a joke topic.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 23, 2008, 12:31:12 AM
I wish I could sign but I can't read japanese.
Title: Re: Bad news for half of the funhouse
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 23, 2008, 01:23:48 AM
